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  • What is the logic behind character design development? Ugly Sonic is treated as a separate individual from actual movie Sonic as opposed to the same character who just had a facelift, whereas Dale, Baloo and Talespin were the same characters who have had a makeover?
    • There doesn't need to be a logic in this case. Some actors went though CGI plastic surgery while others are just re-cast is perfectly valid. Plenty of real-life actors get recast because they don't look "young" enough for their old roles, after all - and plenty stay around for an implausibly long time.

  • How come Peter grew up, but Cubby the Lost Boy didn't?
    • Cubby is a little person (little toon?) who was cast as a child character in Peter Pan.
    • Didn't Sweet Pete say that his botched CGI surgery was the reason he was aged up?
    • In the original story you only remain young if you stay in Neverland, this is why in the movie Hook Peter has grown to Robin Williams' age at the time whilst the rest of the Lost Boys and Pirates are the same age, and also why Wendy and Tootles are both older as they left earlier. Even if they are actors they might still follow some of their movies' rules. Cubby might be able to leave Neverland during short enough amounts of time to not age too much.
    • Maybe he was still Not Allowed to Grow Up?

  • Regarding Chip and Dale's history together, what's the status of the original shorts with Donald Duck and Pluto, as well as any of their appearances post-Rescue Rangers?
    • Well, Kingdom Hearts exists, and they were in that, so apparently after the show ended all future Chip and Dale appearances were new young CG actors.
    • Assuming this is the same world as Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Chip and Dale were actually cut from it and never appear in the finished picture. Them getting their start in commercials before moving onto the Rescue Ranger cartoon is perfectly consistent with its spiritual predecessor.
    • There is something called "recast", so maybe all of these appearences were done by toons that resembled the duo.

  • The villain's whole plan hinges on him trying to evade copyright by forcibly altering how his victims look. But at the same time, the toons are working actors who (one imagines) may want to pursue projects that might not be produced by the studio they "belong" to. How does copyright law work in this world? How is it enforced? Did the Hollywood studio system from the forties just not collapse here? For that matter, how can people tell the difference between an existing toon who's been bootlegged and a new character who just draws heavily on an existing character? Do Gumby and the Swedish Chef co-exist with Putty and Bjornson? Is their Expy Coexistence a problem in this copyright-as-social-caste system?
    • Could work the same way Profesional Wrestling works in where instead of the toons being the IP, their characters are and to some their characters are their entire being. There are lots of examples like this in Real Life, Ben Affleck is not Batman and he can't play Batman without Warner Bros' permission. It's not like WB owns Affleck, but if he wants to take part in a Mockbuster would have to play a similar character that is not Batman. The issue here is that this is the equivalent of kidnapping an actor, making him/her plastic surgery and maybe a lobotomy or some sort mind control and forcing him to act in bad movies for profit which in hindsight is pretty dark. Disregarding snuff films and porn only one real life example comes to mind and involves North Korea actually kidnapping filmmakers to do films for them.

  • Why didn't Peter just use his machine to make himself look younger?
    • Presumably because that wouldn't solve his problem. It'd be weird for an adult actor to get surgery to appear younger to play a child character, and since he's presumably been doing illegal activities since before he acquired the machine, getting back in the game wouldn't be an option for him anymore.

  • Isn't it kinda messed up that the crew behind the show are using Monty's cheese addiction for laughs and profit?
    • Of course it is, but sadly these kinds of thing has happened in real life showbusiness.
    • Not that different from all the times Charlie Sheen plays an alcoholic character or Kevin Smith a podhead, with their own approval. Some creators are just chill about that kind of stuff.

  • In some Animated Actors stories, the actors would act like their TV selves even in the real world (ex: Bonkers, Buster, Babs, Plucky, and Darkwing Duck). There are times the Rangers would act like their TV counterparts. Gadget is a mechanic/engineer in real life and Monty is a cheese addict. Did the writers base the rangers' personalities off of the actors, or is this a case of Becoming the Mask?
    • The former is the most likely answer. I don't think real life actors Becoming the Mask aren't very common.
      • And I suspect that anytime it happens in Real Life, it's that the actor gets interested in something their character is interested in. Picking up a bit of information about a topic could get you interested enough to Google it and find out more.

  • At the beginning it's 1982 and they're in the third grade. This would put them at 8/9 years old. Dale says they graduated high school and left for California. The time for animated animals seems to move like humans. However, by 1990, the show has been on for three years. This should put them at 13 when the show started which wouldn't make sense.
    • It's possible that due to the Meta nature of the movie, Dale wants to convince the audience he's roughly 7 years younger than they really are due to his intense desire to remain young and relevant. After all, it's his voiceover.
    • Chipmunks age differently from humans. Also toons presumably age at weirdly different rates (see Sweet Pete vs. Cubby the Lost Boy) so it's probably pretty hard to pin down what "age" a toon is in general, at least compared to normal human ages.

  • Why do characters from Anime live in Hollywood? Shouldn't they live in Japan (Not implying they can't be in Hollywood for other reasons)? Same goes for French Animation (From Asterix to Miraculous), Italian Animation (Aida, Totò Sapore, La freccia azzurra) or Canadian Animation (Fresh TV 6teen and Total Drama)?
    • Not all of the toons are actors, so it stands to reason that some of them are just immigrants or the children of immigrants from Japan who came to LA for various reason. To work in the Tech Sector, to try their hand in the entertainment industry, to study at the university, or any number of other reasons.
    • Also, Germans Love David Hasselhoff. Just look at all the car and insurance commercials that feature anime characters.
      • And the inverse, with Japanese/Asian commercials starring American actors (Most memorably Tommy Lee Jones for Boss coffee)

  • Based on him telling Chip and Dale that they're "messing things up here" and fact that he isn't even slightly bootlegged, Pete seems to be willingly cooperating with Pan and the bootleggers. How come he could be convinced into joining them, while other villains such as Kaa, Shredder and Maleficent got bootlegged?

  • So about the characters that got bootlegged - it was established that the ones kidnapped had fallen on hard times and likely wouldn't raise a lot of suspicion if they went missing. So then what the hell was Sora from Kingdom Hearts doing there?!
    • Wrong place, wrong time?
    • It seems that Pete was going after numerous characters who were "in-the-now" because he felt more emboldened in his operations. If he could knock off all the current properties, then he could bankrupt the studios who had to stop making things due to a lack of their stars and their inability to attract advertisers. Then, with his bootleg money, he could buy them up and force the toons to work for him legitimately, letting him get his revenge of the system that cast them out by being the one who could deliver that same wrath to anyone who got in his way. And if they objected, he could just bootleg them.

  • Are the bootlegged characters fused together or are they just altered to somewhat resemble another toon?
    • The likely answer is the latter, mainly to pass copyright muster. It's easy to alter a toon, less so to mesh them together. Sweet Pete probably made them look like others so the studios can't sue; how can Disney sue him for ripping off Bambi if he looks like Pegasus?
      • It seems more like a combination. Sweete Pete's plan is basically taking parts from some characters and giving them to other characters as well as giving some characters an Art Shift.

  • Peter Pan is depicted as having aged after appearing in Peter Pan and Flounder is depicted as looking the same as he did in The Little Mermaid (1989) when he was kidnapped by the Valley Gang. Shouldn't this create a few contradictions regarding their appearances in other media? Peter was seen still being a child in Return To Never Land, The Lion King 1 ½ and Jake And The Neverland Pirates and Flounder was depicted as an adult fish in The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea, in addition to his other appearances as a young fish in The Little Mermaid (1992) and The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning. And don't forget the appearances of the two in House of Mouse. Then who played them in these productions?
    • Maybe those projects did happen, but they recast them with younger or older actors. Pete was clearly discarded, and there clearly has to be a Flounder out there somewhere who looks a bit older. Lumiere (who's implied to have not done the remake of his movie) wouldn't be in desperate need of cash if the midquels were selling better (which, in real life, they're clearly not)—they'd more than likely be an Old Shame for everyone and not something they'd be willing to talk about. At least one of those sequel characters like Melody or Kion are probably wandering around FanCon looking for some fans.
    • There is a theory about the most recent Peter Pan apparitions in the WMG.

  • So... what was the deal with the giant wall full of parts found in the movie again? Was it for a deeper purpose or did it just serve as Pete's "Trophy Wall" of all the victims he had claimed in his bootleg-operation?
    • It's possible that Pete was just using it to store the parts so he could bootleg someone else with them later.

  • There is a picture of a female mouse hanging on Monty's wall. Was that meant to be Gadget in makeup (referencing her disguise in the episode Double o' Chipmunk), or is she a completely different mouse?

  • Why is the Lion King bootleg called "Farm Beasts"? They have nothing to do with farms. Why not something more appropriate like "Savannah Beast" or "The Big Cat Monarch" or "Dimba the Yellow Lion"?
    • Marketing doesn't seem to be Sweet Pete's strong suit. He was probably trying to distance it as far as possible from The Lion King so Disney wouldn't go after him.

  • If Sweet Pete wants to play the classic Peter Pan again, why doesn't he lose weight, shave off his body hair, and put on heavy makeup to hide the bags under his eyes? With the technology we have today, they could also de-age him and pitch down his voice. In real-life, 30 year olds were cast as high school students in TV shows and movies.
    • He already lost his job once. Even if he did all that and got back into shape, there's no reason Disney would hire him back unless there was a huge demand for it (which there seemingly isn't)—and even then it's not a guarantee he'd get it back.
      • Plus, he has already comitted himself to a life of crime, so unless Disney is like REALLY Desperated to bring him back, it would be a bad sign to release a criminal back to their headquarters. Who's to say that he would even sabotage anything on it to just remain on top too?

  • Can the Bootlegged characters be "redrawn" or have their bodies changed back to the way they were? They don't exactly say if the Body Horror was permanent or not.
    • To be fair, in the credits scene Monty does appear to have some bandages on his ears due to being turned into a Dumbo bootleg so the body horror appears to not be permanent.
    • Before the credits roll, Dale explicitly says he knows someone who can fix Monty. The implication is that repairing them is akin to cosmetic surgery.

  • How in the world is Gadget still in perfect shape after giving birth to 42 children? Looking at the children themselves, they all seem to be around roughly the same age, implying that, at most, she gave birth to multiple in the same year.
    • 1st both she and a her husband belong to species that is very fecund and that might have made her body more able to keep her shape. 2 she is a toon they might not change like that. 3 they are fly hybrids she might as well have laid eggs for all we know.
    • Beauty Is Never Tarnished

  • While this could fit more into the Kingdom Hearts aspect (even if it appeared on a tiny scene), what would the Heartless (as well any other type of non-sentient antagonists like the shadows in the Princess and the Frog or other kinds of mooks/bosses) be/have of living in this universe? Would they just be generated by computer making them not as real/cgi for their shows? would they be more like animals that have been trained to do what the story's about and after they finished they expect a treat? Or are they Animated Actors too?
    • Fridge Horror: What if they are contained because they are like the Cy-Bugs from Wreck it Ralph ?

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