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Fridge Brilliance

  • People were wondering where Thor was in episode 11. Turns out in episode 14 he had no idea that the Avenger's card buzzing meant the team to gather.
  • Listen to "Fight as One" carefully to find connections between the seemingly random lyrics and the heroes shown on screen.
    Our world's about to break (HYDRA robots are attacking and destroying New York City.)
    Tormented and attacked (Dr. Banner becomes tormented by the Hulk, who is in turn attacked by people who think he's a mindless monster)
    Lost from when we wake (Captain America wakes in the 21st century and finds he lost all the allies he had in WWII)
    With no way to go back (Thor gets banished from Asgard)
    I'm standing on my own (In the Micro-Episodes, Iron Man kept insisting he could fight crime well enough by himself)
    But now I'm not alone... (Iron Man became a founding member of a superhero team anyway)
    Avengers, assemble!
    • In addition to the current opening, trailers using the song feature those characters at those points in the song.
    • The unused second verse continues the pattern.
    Too small to turn the tide (Ant-Man's insecurities that eventually cause him to become Yellowjacket)
    Too stubborn to give in (Wasp's counterbalance, being a founding member of the Avengers who believes she can make a difference)
    Pushed by pain and pride(Black Panther's quest to avenge his father's death and ensure Wakanda's safety)
    To face our fears and win (Hawkeye's ongoing attempts to clear his name and confront Black Widow)
    There's no one left to trust (The growing threat of Skrull infiltrators replacing key people)
    And now it's up to us...
  • With Reed Richards getting a cameo at the end of "The Kang Dynasty", and Johnny Storm and Ben Grimm helping out for a moment in "The Casket of Ancient Winters", the only one of the Fantastic Four who did not appear in the first season is the Invisible Woman.
    • In the season 2 premiere we find out Sue got replaced by a Skrull.
  • At first I was confused how the prisoners in The Big House were so well treated when compared to the other prisons. In the Vault and Cube, they're either in minimalist cells or chained up at all times. So why do the prisoners of The Big House have things such as pong, books and mirrors? Because this prison was Ant Man's idea, and as a big fan of rehabilitation, he must have asked for some prisoner rights to entertainment and pleasure.
  • My sister expressed annoyance with Thor getting easily beaten and knocked out, but I eventually realized...what if he's being indirectly punished for his arrogance?
  • Wasp learned about Ravonna's near-death experience three or four episodes after she nearly lost the one she loved. This might have made it easier than usual for her to sympathize with Kang, to the extent where she demands the other Avengers to spare him.
  • Hawkeye has a farmer's tan in episode 20 because unlike the other Avengers, he (along with Thor and Hulk) never changed out of his superhero costume during the preceding parts of the season.
  • Ant-man's actions at the beginning of Ultron-5 makes more sense if you remember that Hulk was talking about how "Fighting is fun" the episode before. Ant-man hadn't exactly been resistant to fighting in order to defend the innocent. He'd been fully willing to pound at AIM and Hydra, take down the Masters of Evil, and even reprogram Ultron in order to fight off Kang. However, Hulk's whole stick on fighting being fun must have been a wake up call appealing to his Wide-Eyed Idealist side. He might have been concerned that he was losing his way, and so tried to talk the serpent society out of violence because of this fear. Unfortunately, Ultron-5 gave King Cobra something too great for Hank's appeal to fall on attentive ears, and thus Henry Pym was forced to watch as the team blamed him for messing up their stop, and lead to him quitting the team.
    • The "wake-up call" could have happened even earlier, during the war against Kang. After the Avengers spend one whole episode doing practically nothing but destroy robots and banish enemy minions to a non-existent future, Ant-Man asks Captain America what he has planned after infiltrating Damocles, and Cap simply says that they have to take Kang down. Ant-Man expresses visible disappointment, sarcastically claiming that he "forgot" violence always comes first. This probably led to him trying to remind the Hulk, "There's nothing to enjoy about fighting," which resulted in Hulk retorting.
  • Re-watching the show, I was puzzled slightly by Ultron's behavior in "Ultron-5" and why he suddenly attacked the Avengers with decent, but not particularly well thought out plans. Especially after the reveal he had used Radiation Man, the Serpent Society, and others to gradually build up his arsenal and prepare for the day he went rogue. Why blow that all in one day? Then I realized... that was the episode Ant-Man quit the team. Ultron must have realized Hank was going to take him (along with his mobile lab) and leave Avengers Manor, and decided to strike while he was still inside.
  • In the season 2 premiere, the Iron Man armor has a higher brow and a more distinct yellow areas as well. Why he was using this version seems odd at first, until you realize that his mark 7 got destroyed trying to get to Asgard, and most of his older armors were destroyed when Ultron took them over. For all we know, it's the only armor he has left at this moment.
  • There's a strong symbolic framing in Who Do You Trust? The episode's A plot is Tony finding out about the skrulls from Fury and telling the team about it. However, the B plot that happened beforehand was Ms. Marvel getting "properly" inducted by defeating the Griffin. Now the avengers have fought many different villains, supervillains and monsters, but griffin is probably the closest thing to an unthinking animal that the avengers have fought (outside of Zzzaxx, X-ray and loki's wolves). The symbolic framing is that while it's pretty hard to miss something like Griffin, the Skrulls are perhaps the Avengers greatest challenge in that they literally could be any human or metahuman: a stark contrast in how differently the avengers's war on crime and invasion is about to become.
  • Maria Hill sure acted dumb when accusing Hulk of Red Hulk's crimes, but if not for this stubbornness, the Captain America Skrull wouldn't have told Hulk to go to jail and wait for him, and Nick Fury would have caught fewer Out of Character Alerts in Cap's behavior.
    • Seems more like Fridge-Conveniance.
  • Before the Heroes For Hire find Scott, Luke says that he must not be very bright. Scott stole from a HYDRA-sponsored bank, instead of a normal one. After Scott reveals himself as a Justified Criminal, you could interpret this behavior as Scott refusing to let innocent people suffer because of him.
    • Or just as a sign of how poorly thought-out Scott's plan is. By his own admission, Scott didn't have time to put together a bank heist, so what he wound up doing was swiping the Ant-Man tech and just hitting the first bank he could find. That it was a H.Y.D.R.A. bank is a clue to just what Luke was saying, sort of; not that the robber isn't very bright, but that he's desperate and not thinking things through. Which is exactly what Scott was doing.
  • Dell Rusk is an anagram of 'Red Skull', but you probably knew that already.
  • Despite the fairly obvious Take That! to the Reginald Hudlin retcon of the Black Panther series (namely, anyone can become King of Wakanda if they beat the current incumbent in a trial by combat), and the fact T'challa would particularly have reason to dissolve it (it cost him his father, T'chaka, and almost destroyed his tribe when M'baku the Man-Ape cheated and claimed the throne this way), in the season 2 episode "Behold the Vision", it's revealed that T'challa hasn't repealed this law. However, this makes perfect sense that T'challa is heir to a long line of Proud Warrior Race Guys, and the fact that anyone can take the throne by beating them in a fight gives them ample reason to live up to that tradition.
  • The reason why Skrull Captain America wears the Ultimate Captain America's costume. Compared to the mainstream Marvel universe Cap, Ultimate Cap is a major Jerkass, so it's a hint towards Captain America not being who we think he is and not being as heroic as the real one.
  • The Team Shot of "Masters of Evil" portrays Iron Man as the shortest due to perspective, but it also makes sense when remembering that in the movies, Iron Man has a shorter actor than Captain America, Thor, and Hawkeyenote  do.
  • The Skrulls were probably an Easily Thwarted Alien Invasion because most of their military was wiped out fighting Galactus
  • How did Cap unmask the Skrull Avengers in "Prisoners of War" so easily? Remember that in the season 2 premiere, Hawkeye said that Thor stayed on Asgard instead of returning to Earth with the others. Cap was replaced after the Avengers returned from Asgard, so he would know that it didn't fit when "Thor" was with the others.
  • While Fury's redesign in season 2 was done mostly to make him look more like movie!Fury, and has been called unnecessary by some fans, it does have an in-universe justification: Fury is on the run, and would therefore need to change his appearence to be less recognisible.
  • There is some (very short-term, but still) Foreshadowing that the Avengers on the Skrull ship aren't the real Avengers right from the start. Iron Man says Hawkeye never reads the mission reports, but a few episodes prior Hawkeye already established that he does read them. While that could mean Hawkeye was replaced as well, he is a secret agent and would know how to prepare for a mission.

Fridge Horror

  • Civilian body count from events directly observed on screen should be in millions at least. Kang's invasion is the main culprit, with Ultron's plot that culminated in nuclear missiles (with their highly toxic fuel and warheads full of radioactive materials) disintegrating in flight directly over New York as the distant second, but there were lots and lots of fights in densely populated areas in general, with cars thrown around like toys and building heavily damaged, meaning practically inevitable casualties.
    • I'm pretty sure that the missiles were blown in a fairly safe manner, so no nuclear fallout.
      • They didn't initiate, but nuclear material itself is extremely toxic (not to mention radioactive).
    • Furthermore, this being a children's show, the geo-political ramifications of the entire world's nuclear arsenal being destroyed is never explored.
  • In "Gamma World Part 2", when The Leader unleashes another Gamma generator at Las Vegas, it is not only just the men and women who were painfully transformed into gamma-powered monsters but also the children underneath the Gamma Dome.
  • Loki's fate is pretty bad, but also partially something that happened in the myths (minus the whole "bound in his son's entrails" part), but when he was released, it was the beginning of Ragnarök, so if he ever gets out...
    • Loki seems to have some scarring around his eyes, implying this isn't the first time Odin's done this. Which is really just trading one case of Fridge Horror for another.
  • Even though the head writer denied claims that HYDRA displaced the Nazis in this universe, the fact a part of the Axis Powers survived World War II and had a considerable amount of power through the early 21st century creates a bleak atmosphere. The world could easily succumb to another Axis takeover if not for the effectiveness of the crimefighters.
    • Not necessarily, most of the villainous organizations appear to be keeping a relatively low profile most of the time. And besides, there may be a lot of bad guy's out there but, there's a lot of good people out there to.
    • H.Y.D.R.A. still exists, but is significantly reduced. They're more akin to a terrorist organization than a massive national army capable of overthrowing one or more countries through military force. While it's not out of the question that they could be responsible for a military coup that could tip the balance of power, they just don't have the military strength to launch a full-scale global war.
  • Why does Captain America keep the team together? Because he needs to keep them under observation.
  • Iron Man essentially seems to be the Barrier Maiden of Earth. The man has enough power and stroke that through him, Purple Man took over the planet within a month, to the point of launching mind controlling satellites and having armies of Iron Men patrolling the entire world, which is harrowing enough without Purple Man's mind control aspects. The lesson to take from this episode is, if Tony ever turns evil, it's gonna be a real bad day for Earth.
    • Iron Man is more or less exactly that. Tony Stark is a major cornerstone of the Avengers. As Pepper in another episode pointed out, the Avengers as a whole are bankrolled out of Stark's pocket. He's a founding member of the team and often takes a leadership role, even with Captain America standing right there, even after supposedly handing leadership over to Cap.
  • Consider that the cancellation has essentially allowed a genocidal monster to do a Karma Houdini and continue his reign of terror? Pray for a Big Damn Movie soon.
  • Cap starts training Tony in hand-to-hand combat in Season One, and in the Season Two episode "Welcome To The Kree Empire", it's apparent the lessons have continued, as Tony is joking around about only "blacking out that one time". But this Captain America is a Skrull, which means that Tony was literally being beaten into unconsciousness by a Skrull without anyone suspecting a thing. Which means if the Skrull had so deigned, it could have "accidentally" killed Iron Man at any point.
    • Tony's pride in blacking out "only" once makes one wonder how exactly how badly Steve beat him in one of the other sessions...
    • It would have been very difficult to "accidentally" kill Stark in a sparring match without making Skrullcap look incredibly suspicious. Captain America should know his strength better than that.
    • Not so hard at all. Yes, Steve would be keeping control of strength, but accidents happen. It only takes a few pounds of force to break the nose or orbital bone and send chips of skull into the brain. Consider further, if the Skrulls had known Tony (with an assist from Doom) would be the person who came up with the Skrull detector and called Thor back in, two acts which. along with the prisoner escape, ultimately brought down the entire invasion, they probably would have had Steve kill him in just such a manner.
      • Not so hard to kill him. Very hard to pull off that it was an accident. Again, Steve should know his strength better than that. "Oops, sorry guys, I accidentally killed Tony," would set off major red flags with everyone else on the team immediately, and completely compromise Skrull!Cap's position on the team.
      • Very easy to make it an accident. Clearly, the Skrull wouldn't be stupid enough to just punch him out and kill him, of course not...but the whole reason that Tony was getting lessons was because he had no idea how to fight, and any expert will tell you one of the most dangerous things for an expert to do is face an amateur because you don't know what they'll do...and since it has Cap's memories, the Skrull knows this. All Skrull-Cap had to do was wait for Tony to make the mistake, either charging forward bullheadedly (as he showed a tendency to do in his and Cap's first match) or otherwise flailing around in some way where what should have been a pulled punch would have "accidentally" made a more complete impact. And if Tony is, as he admitted, already getting beaten up hard enough to have black-outs, we're talking an error margin of millimeters. Thus: Tony does something foolhardy, perfectly in character for him, the Skrull capitalizes with the slightest bit of extra pressure and boom, instant plausible deniability. At that point, just grieve appropriately and secretly enjoy the Avengers falling apart without their benefactor.
      • And how, exactly, does Skrull-Cap kill Tony with a single punch in this scenario? It's not about Tony being impacted a little harder than normal. Do you know how hard it is to beat someone to death with your bare hands, and that's with repeated, concentrated effort. One harder-than-normal punch isn't going to kill Tony; Skrull-Cap would have to continue beating him well beyond the point of any plausible deniability, or break his neck, or do something else that would be completely indefensible under the claim of "sparring accident".
      • Skrull-Cap has the advantage of having the same strength the super serum gave Cap, which is supposed to be basically super-human. If Cap wanted to, he probably 'could' cave in someone's skull with a punch, but beyond that, there are still ways of 'accidentally' killing someone with a single strike. He could punch Tony's nose and break it in such a way that bone splinters go into his brain, he could push it upwards so the bridge stabs his brain, he could punch his windpipe and crush it irreparably with his super-strength, he could hit Tony so hard that he gives him a big enough concussion to cause a permanent vegetative state at best, he could punch Tony in the chest and break the arc reactor's glass and/or disrupt it and let him go into cardiac arrest while feigning having no clue what to do about it... It's very easy to kill a person quickly and efficiently, so long as you know 'exactly' what you're doing.
      • The point the others are trying to make is that killing Stark at all would have raised red flags. No matter how accidental it looks, Cap Skrull is trying to avoid doing anything to draw attention to himself. Plus, how many times has Cap killed, even accidentally, when fighting villains? He'd be even more careful with an ally.
  • In episode "Prisoner Of War" it it hinted that something happened to Madame Viper, which gave her scars on her face and made her hate people like Captain America. Considering that she became a supervillain and a rather vicious one and even after Captain America saved her several times throughout that episodes and showed genuine compassion, she still sees him as an enemy. This makes you wonder? What kind of things happened to her?
  • The Skrulls came to Earth because their homeworld was destroyed by Galactus. Considering that Galactus showed up not too long afterward, that pretty much mean the entire purpose of the Skrull invasion would have been one massive Shoot the Shaggy Dog incident for them, especially if they succeeded in getting rid of Iron Man and the Fantastic Four before his arrival.
  • When we first saw the Sentry, Marvell told us that if the population of a planet gets problematic, the Sentry activates the Nega-bomb and blows the whole planet. And the Supreme Intelligence pointed that humanity destroyed a Sentry, something that no other species had done, not even the Skrull or Shi-Ar. Which means... that the Kree have already decimated Skrull and Shi-Ar worlds with their Nega-Bombs.
  • When you think about it, Hank's decent into insanity and change of identity is almost entirely the fault of all his friends and teammates. If you watch the older episodes carefully you'll notice that no one, not even Janet ever really supported his pacifist ideals. Nor did any of them ever take the time to think that Hank might have been right about trying to reform criminals. When you think about it, it's no wonder he snapped eventually.
    • On the other hand, he might have simply decided his goal was futile, especially given his efforts didn't work in the first place. It might not have been that the others didn't support him, it might have been he decided they were right.
  • What happens to Bruce when he's stuck with Ross for an undetermined length of time, but known to be over a month and likely much longer. He ends up with a remote controlled electrocuting spike embedded in the back of his skull and attached to his brain. It's the only confirmed horror that happens to him, but given his history with Ross in the comics and the length of time he's with Ross makes it extremely likely that it's not the only horrible thing Bruce was subjected to.
  • The Winter Soldier was created after the Cosmic Cube granted Captain America's subconscious hopes that Bucky survived past the war. If he killed anyone HYDRA couldn't destroy without his help, then Cap might seem partially responsible for their demise(s).
    • Considering that Cap and Strucker touched the Cube at the same time, one has to wonder if it managed to combine their wishes somehow. Cap got Bucky back, but Strucker got a valuable asset for HYDRA.
  • During the battle between HYDRA and AIM over the Cosmic Cube, SHIELD is doggedly hounding... the Avengers. To reiterate 2 terrorist agencies, including a Nazi subgroup, were fighting over something that could rewrite reality on a fundamental level, and the government agency in charge of protecting the world was more focused in the Avengers, thus hindering their effort to prevent these agencies using it. All because they were not satisfied that the Avengers would work with them, they wanted them to work for them, these are the good guys!?

Fridge Logic

  • Where did Baron Strucker and Grim Reaper get that flying Car?
  • How did JARVIS have a room all set up for Cap?
    • Well, the Hulk did just leave. Maybe JARVIS just re-gifts rooms once members leave?
    • It's a big house, so they probably have several rooms. Also, Stark probably asked JARVIS to prepare the room on their way back.
    • Tony said they had 12 bedrooms when he was giving the initial tour.
  • The Wrecking Crew is sent to get a Gama Emitter for their boss The Leader in one of the early episodes, later on you find out that it was actually Loki and The Leader was in prison the entire time. "Gamma World" starts to make less sense the more you think about this.
    • Considering it's Loki disguised as the leader is not so surprising. He's got plans within plans so he's probably helping pawns as it will help him with his goals.
      • That particular Gamma Emitter wasn't part of The Leader's Gamma World plan, it was just a convienent McGuffin for Loki-pretending-to-be-Leader to toss them at to occupy Thor. The reason for this (and, also: I think there's a chronological mixup you're having): "Thor the Mighty" takes place BEFORE "Breakout", despite the airing order. The Leader breaks out to start his plan and then is recaptured after Hulk, Thor and Hawkeye happen to him in "Gamma World".
  • Regarding Thor's absence in "Panther's Quest," if only we knew why Thor didn't take the hint when his card began saying "Avengers Assemble" in Tony's voice.
    • It's entirely possible it didn't even ring. I doubt the communicards have extra-dimensional capability, and Thor is prone to adventuring in various mythical realms on a regular basis.
      • Iron Man managed to call teammates visiting the Negative Zone...
      • He also built the prison within the Negative Zone and the portal to the Negative Zone—or at least, he had a hand in it. It would have been designed to allow for interdimensional communication since it's a prison and all, so it's different from Thor just hammering a hole into reality and flying through.
  • Janet's acting like a petty spoiled brat in 459 is pretty easy to hold against her, until you recall the reason she started acting like this in first place is because Hank refused to do anything but what he considers to be fun(science instead of dancing) with the implication that this has pretty much been their entire relationship. When her boyfriend's a workaholic who won't even go out on a single date with her, it's not hard to see why she'd get fed up with him.
  • What was Wolverine doing in the afterlife?
    • It's said that mutant heaven doesn't have pearly gates, but a revolving door. Maybe Logan was dead and waiting for his inevitable resurrection.
      • Of course, this is also just another point in favor of the argument that they were all illusions and Jack Fury and Nick Fury are one in the same.
      • This would make some sense, seeing as Hel is the realm of the dishonored dead (i.e. those who did not die in battle). Based on the military attire of the Howling Commandos, and their lines about Cap abandoning them (by, you know, getting frozen and all), it seems to imply that they died in battle, and thus would not belong in Hel. However, one of the semi-common depictions of the Norse afterlife outside of the Eddic depictions note  is an animistic model, where different parts of the spirit detach, some to remain in Hel, some to be reborn as descendants or animals or other things. It is possible that this depiction of Hel draws partially from the latter, that his memories of his fellow Howling Commandos are drawn into the illusions of their spirits, while the "self" aspect of his spirit and mind remains in tact. While this is a break from the mythological basis, it is possible to see the inspiration for such a notion.
  • Producer Josh Fine says "Widow's Sting" mostly works well regardless of whether you watch it before or after the first three episodes in which the Avengers fight Kangnote , though he also points out the fact that "one minor character point" in "Hail, Hydra!" makes more sense if you watch "Widow's Sting" after that arc. If you watch it before Kang's invasion, you might start wondering why Nick Fury took so long after capturing the Madame Viper Skrull to gather reinforcements.
  • T'Challa demonstrates to Janet at the beginning of the tie-in comic "Team" that he can't participate in the group picture because his Black Panther suit renders him invisible to ordinary digital cameras. However, he shows up perfectly fine in the photographs documenting the fight against Ultimo, as well as the group shot Peter Parker takes with Jan's camera. Also, the cartoon already showed that Black Panther can't hide himself from the Avengers Mansion's security cameras.
    • He probably just doesn't want to take the damn picture.
    • How did he become invisible that time, though?
    • Maybe it's something he can turn on and off, rather than something that's on all the time?
    • Maybe he shows up because those pictures weren't taken using ordinary cameras.
    • I already wrote that he doesn't show up in Jan's camera at the beginning, but does later.
  • In the page quote, it sounds almost like Iron Man wants to work for evil, instead of against it.
  • Asgardian magic protects Thor from becoming a gamma-powered monster in "Gamma World," yet it can't deflect against Purple Man's energy in "Emperor Stark."
    • There are two possibilities that could work around this. 1. Perhaps Purple Man's abilities in this continuity are semi-magical in nature? Alternatively, to fit more with comic continuity, perhaps Purple Man's biological pheromone powers are capable of acting onan Asgardian's biology or magic and gamma radiation doesn't affect him.
  • Skrull!Cap using the Avengers Mansion's communication systems to talk to his Queen. Did he forget about JARVIS, who could very well be "listening in" on Not-Cap's communique and then use it to expose him later on?
    • JARVIS is a machine, and may have a You Didn't Ask stance towards those things.
    • Alternatively, the Skrulls are a technologically advanced race, so they might have found a way to shut JARVIS out of calls through observation of the mansion's systems.


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