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While the DC Extended Universe does have its fair share of criticism, it still managed to successfully introduce the DC superheroes to a new generation of fans. However, a long-term franchise like this is bound to have a few plot points that are why it will never live up to its idols.

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Man of Steel

  • Retloclive:: Lois Lane being brought aboard General Zod's ship is a major travesty in the script-writing since there's no justifiable reason, or even the slightest hint, as to why Lois needed to be there. She didn't have anything that the enemy needed. She wasn't doing any reporting for her job. She wasn't even being used as a hostage to Superman. Lois was there just because she happened to be the well-known character known as Lois Lane.

Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice

  • Loekman 3: Jimmy Olsen being killed off so casually is one of my biggest gripes against the movie. Here we have one of the most important characters in the Superman universe as Superman's best friend and greatly looked up to him. There could be a lot of potential interactions between him, Lois and Clark in the big screen. When I was watching the movie, I began to ask myself where is Jimmy? It turns out that he is actually the same CIA agent that gets killed off early on. Adding insult to the injury, he is not mentioned by anyone, not by Clark, not Lois and certainly not his boss Perry White and his death isn't even treated as a major event happening. To me, Zack Snyder just casually kills him off because he wants to Shoo Out the Clowns for this Darker and Edgier movie, just because he can. They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character at its finest.
  • Shadow 200: They showed Batman not only killing some people, but also branding them as well after, so even if they survive and are taken to jail, it's implied that they will be killed in prison. This not only goes against his entire character but it's mentioned that The Joker is alive and in prison. And prior to this mess of a film, that he had killed Robin. What the heck?! Batman, you're telling me you are willing to kill some two bit thugs who rob places but you are still outright refusing to kill Joker after he brutally murdered Robin and several other people?! No wonder DC is eating Marvel's dust, and it looks like they will continue to do so.
    • Dr Zulu 2010: The problem with Batman killing people, in my humble opinion, is that it should have been the center of the conflict between Batman and Superman. I mean, they have a good conflict of ideals stared right in their face and they are ignoring it for god knows why. If I have to play the script doctor for a second, I would make Superman's reason to oppose Batman is because he established himself as judge, jury and executionner. And Superman, having killed Zod as last resort, knows how de-humanizing murder is and is angry that some does this as some twisted sense of justice. And the conclusion of the fight would be Superman, beaten and humbled, telling Batman to kill him if he would make him happy. But Batman, won't do that, realizing that Superman isn't as evil as he thought. Eventually realizing that he has become no better than the Joker, who has killed Robin as an attempt to break him. That would at least be more compelling than the "Martha is the name of both their mother" who begging to be turned into a meme.
  • Retloclive:: The very last second of the movie where the dirt begins to rise on Superman's grave to imply that Superman will return one day. Way to chicken out on one of the only risks that the movie was willing to take, which also happened to destroy any possible emotional impact that was a result of said risk.
  • Crazyrabbits: The sequence where Diana Prince/Wonder Woman reads through the Lexcorp files Bruce sends her in an email. Aside from coming off as an abrupt teaser sequence for upcoming DC Universe movies, the sequence interrupts the flow of the film (stuck awkwardly between the middle of two climactic fight scenes in the final act), has noticeably-cheap production quality (Jason Momoa is seen puffing his cheeks out and holding his breath during the shot of Aquaman swimming up to the research camera), and the scene takes on a Narm-esque feel with the notion that Lex made special superhero-styled logos for all of the individuals he was researching. There were much better ways this scene could have been handled, and it smacks of poor planning by Warner Bros. and DC as they attempt to rush all these characters into the universe.
  • Tauriella: Lex Luthor had several moments that could be seen as contenders, but the Senate scene takes the cake. Your dramatic reveal kind of loses its severity when it depends on a Brick Joke involving Lex Luthor, of all villains, giving a Senator a jar of his own pee to intimidate her. And That's Terrible.
  • cricri3007: The scene where Superman confront Batman for the first time by letting the Batmobile bounce off him is extremely cool... if you're not watching the French version of the film, because Adrien Antoine (Superman's dubber) is the same guy who dubbed Batman in everything but the Nolan films for the past twelve years. Rarely has there ever been a weirder instance of Acting for Two that completely broke the immersion. Even worse since the dubbers could have easily been switched without it being weird.
  • patriciovalencia117: The Knightmare...just the Knightmare scene. While there are plenty of things to complain about how this scene represents everything wrong with the DCEU from gratuitous sequel-teasing to bastardized versions of beloved superheroes, the most insulting thing about the Knightmare is that its a terrible homage to the pretty awesome Injustice: Gods Among Us video games and comics. In the Injustice games, Superman became a dictator because he wanted to promote peace and prevent others from experiencing the same loss that he did, and NOT to vent his frustrations on the world as seen in the Knightmare scene. While we're on the subjects of nightmares, why did Bruce suddenly dream about Darkseid, parademons, and the New Gods? Was there a magic artifact that triggered his visions and how did he get inspired by any of this at all? At least the bat-monster nightmare earlier makes sense given his fears of becoming a deranged monster like that bat that inspired him. This moment makes me glad that Siegel, Shuster, Kane and Finger aren't alive to witness how their characters were bastardized. This scene shows that Zack Snyder just doesn't understand or respect the DC comics mythology. He lifts the look and setup of the source material but fails to add the subtext and thematics. What a soul-sucking waste of everyone's time, especially for the folks who showed up to see the titular fight.

Suicide Squad

  • Retloclive: June Moone, who's supposed to be an archaeologist, seems to forget how to take care of newly discovered artifacts, and ends up breaking the Enchantress possession statue while it's in her hands. Worst, and stupidest, case of Nice Job Breaking It, Hero I've ever seen in my life.

Justice League

  • Khugol: The very first scene that open this meaningless cobbled-together zombie of a movie. They massacred Superman by adding this botched Mustache-Gate footage and facepalm-inducing dialogue, not even mentioning the rest of his scenes. They would've been better off letting Zack Snyder finish his film and not call for an already outdated quippy Whedonian humor no one asked for.
  • Dr.XXX: So let me get this straight. Steppenwolf, the Big Bad of the movie, had an entire backstory where Amazons, Atlanteans, humans, and the Green Lantern Corps forced him to retreat. This is not the damning moment. It's actually good. It's the climax of the movie that is just bad. Superman saves everyone by defeating Steppenwolf who promptly is Dragged Off to Hell to face Darkseid. Point one, having Superman do the bulk of the work while the rest of the league does nothing cheapens the good scene in the film. Point two, it makes the League look incompetent and useless, something you want to avoid in this film. Point three, this ruins the power balance of the entire universe by making everyone from Earth and even the aliens look weak compared to a Kryptonian. Wow.
    • I Like Robots: Seconded. The entire climax of the film boils down to "Every hero not named Superman just wastes Steppenwolf's time until Superman shows up and effortlessly kicks Steppenwolf's ass." Superman turns into a God-Mode Sue, destroys the tension in the scene and ruins the hype Steppenwolf had up until this point. It's supposed to be an awesome moment, but instead it's an unsatisfying Anti-Climax. Not to mention, it raises the awkward question of why the rest of the League even needs to exist if Superman is this powerful. Wasn't the League formed to combat threats too big to handle for a single hero, even Superman? Here's hoping that the rebooted live action universe does the League right.

Wonder Woman 1984

  • Kevjro 7: Wonder Woman and Steve are in the middle of a desert with a taxi driver, and Wonder Woman asks to buy the car. Requesting to buy the taxi isn't what's stupid, no. What's stupid is that the driver actually agrees to the sale, even though doing this means he has no way of getting back home. No intelligent person would ever agree to this transaction in the middle of a desert, no matter how much money they were offered.
  • The Master Chand: Diana's speech to the Audience/World/Max Lord. It can basically be summed up as, "Hard Work Fallacy = truth, wanting change because your life sucks = bad". This would have been cringe, at best, even before 2020. Coming in at the end of 2020, and it's basically a big middle finger to every non-rich person in the US, if not the World.
  • Retloclive: The sex scene. Diana and Steve have sex despite the fact that it's not actually Steve. It's another man that Steve ended up taking control of. The sad thing is that these two characters are supposed to be our heroes, yet they don't ever realize what they're doing with another man's body. How this went unnoticed when the script was written is just bonkers. This dude was raped.


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