Broken Pedestal / Video Games

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• The main character in Arc the Lad 3 becomes a Hunter because one saved his life when he was young. He later finds that Hunter working for the Big Bad.
• Assassin's Creed:
  • Assassin's Creed: Your mentor Al Mualim turns out to have been sending you on missions the entire time to distract you from his plot to use a mythical object to mind control all of the assassins, his allies.
  • In Assassin's Creed III, Connor eventually learns that George Washington and not Charles Lee was behind the razing of his village Kanatahséton and thus the death of his mother — and just ordered a new attack on it, to exterminate his people and salt the earth. Although Connor isn't fooled by how thick Haytham lays on the disdain, Connor's relationship with Washington never really recovers even after he prevents the attack by killing off Washington's messengers. Washington still trusts Connor enough that he went to him before anyone else after he found an Apple of Eden, subsequently subjecting both of them to a shared vision/hallucination that is The Tyranny of King Washington, and afterwards leave on better terms and with more respect for each other.
  • In Assassin's Creed: Unity, Arno had considered Napoleon a friend in the main campaign, falling for Napoleon's charm. In the Dead Kings DLC, he becomes even more bitter upon overhearing Napoleon's conceited speeches and witnessing how ruthless he really is.
  • Assassin's Creed Origins has Aya, wife of Bayek, who deals with the grief of losing her son by serving Cleopatra as a hired mercenary and going on sea campaigns to battle Ptolemy's army to help her get on the throne of Egypt. She does this because she looks up to Cleopatra almost like a Goddess, and doesn't listen to Bayek's warnings about her being shady, thinking he is being jealous. After meeting Julius Caesar and convincing him to pick up where Alexander The Great left off, Cleopatra betrays Aya and Bayek by siding with the Romans and The Order she claimed to be fighting against. In reality she was just having them remove future threats to her getting on the throne, and afterwards tells Aya her services are no longer needed. Aya confronts Cleopatra after this and warns her she will be dealt with if she goes too far and becomes a tyrant. It is revealed that Aya, as one of the Hidden Ones, ends up killing Cleopatra by poison, which goes against the story of her committing suicide with the snake.
• Palaxius in Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny.
• In Baldur's Gate II, Jaheira has this in regards to the Harpers during her personal quest. First, Galvarey, the regional Harper leader in Athkatla turns out to be an opportunistic Smug Snake who wants to use the Player Character in his bid for power. Jaheira is understandably dismayed by this, especially since the other Harpers, who are unaware of Galvarey's intent, consider the incident an act of treason on her part and a murder on your part. Once that is cleared up, she discovers that Dermin, her old mentor, was actually in on Galvarey's plot, and is just as much of a Smug Snake as he was. Needless to say, the whole affair shook Jaheira to her core.
• Batman:
  • In Batman: The Telltale Series, Bruce Wayne suffers one when he learns that his father, Thomas Wayne, was actually a corrupt man who used his power and influence to essentially rule Gotham along with Hamilton Hill and Carmine Falcone. And Alfred knew about this the entire time. You can also choose not to forgive Alfred for this, but will make sure he Never Live It Down.
  • In the Cold, Cold Heart campaign of Batman: Arkham Origins, Bruce Wayne admired Ferris Boyle, considering him a kind-hearted humanitarian... until he discovers that Boyle is in fact a Corrupt Corporate Executive who was designing illegal cryo-weapons, and his role in turning Mr. Freeze into what he is now. Batman, after a moment of genuine shock, quickly recovers and shifts his focus from apprehending Freeze to taking Boyle down, making it clear he's going to make the so-called humanitarian pay for his crimes.
    Alfred: I'm sorry, Master Bruce. I know you had high hopes for what Ferris could do for Gotham.
• Bug Fables: Initially, Team Snakemouth used to be fans of Mothiva like the many civilian bugs, considering it an honor to speak to her. But the moment she reveals that she intends to hijack their mission, even resorting to violence to do so, they now feel nothing but disgust and resentment towards her. And that's even before she tries to potentially put the whole Bugaria in danger.
• Happened in Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia. Turns out Barlowe is a Dracula worshipper and uses the organization and Shanoa as a tool to revive Dracula. Depending on how the game is played, Shanoa may end up following him blindly (and dying in vain), or wises up and performs a Rage Against the Mentor.
• Celestial Hearts: Gail is upset to learn that his father sold the poor of Port Khalim to the Graveharts, which is the kind of behavior his ancestor Uno would frown upon. Matthias called their father out for this crime, only for their parents to flee to Zamaste to avoid consequences.
• Chicory: A Colorful Tale:
  • Chicory becomes this for a while toward Pizza following what the manifestation of her fought as the Chapter 3 boss claims giving the brush to them was a mistake on top of what she says to them afterwards, leaving Pizza in a somber state throughout Chapter 4.
  • Chicory herself looked up to Blackberry, which is why she tried so hard to meet her expectations, hiding her flaws to be perfect. When Blackberry tried to take the brush back after staying quiet about the problems she noticed in Chicory until that point, the latter felt betrayed and created the most recent wave of corruption.
• In Coffee Talk Episode 2: Hibiscus and Butterfly, Aqua reveals that the game company that she's working for looks down on small developers and gave her a shady contract. With Myrtle's advice, Aqua realizes that just because she loves the company's games doesn't mean that they treat their employees well, so she rejects the contract.
• In Corruption of Laetitia: Riliane will turn on Celeste should she decide to kill the little girl the bandits are holding hostage, claiming Celeste can't be the same hero she once idolized.
• In Corpse Party Ayumi greatly respects Naho Saenoki, an occult expert despite just being in high school. She is disheartened when Naho reveals that she died in Tenjin Elementary and in Chapter 5 laments that they could have been friends. Shortly after that, however, she finds out that the instructions for the Sachiko charm (which is what trapped them in Tenjin Elementary in the first place) that she found on Naho's blog were faulty...And Naho knew this. Ayumi calls her out on it. Naho doesn't really care and insults "occult freaks"...until Ayumi reveals that after Naho succumbed to The Darkening, she killed her beloved mentor, Kou Kibiki. She doesn't take this revelation well.
• During Season of the Splicer in Destiny 2, Lord Saladin Forge is told by Osiris that his reputation has taken a hit, from many Guardians both young and old. During the Red War, he was nowhere to be seen, and during Season of the Chosen he was openly against a ceasefire with the Cabal. Some Guardians have even accused him of being responsible for the assassination attempt on Zavala’s life during the negotiations with Empress Caiatl. He doesn’t take it well.
  • Happens again during Season of Plunder. Eido looked up to her adopted father Mithrax as a great Eliksni, fighting for her species in a war torn universe trying to survive. However, she finds out the hard way that Mithrax before his Heel–Face Turn was a blood thirsty tyrant many Eliksni feared, including The Spider. But what breaks Eido's heart the most, isn't her finding out her father had a Dark and Troubled Past, but that he didn't trust her enough to reveal this after all they've been though, and she had to find out from one of his enemies, Eramis.
• In Diablo, part of the reason why Farnham became The Alcoholic is the sense of betrayal he felt after Archbishop Lazarus betrayed him and the others to demons.
• Disgaea:
  • Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice has Super Hero Aurum, beloved by humans (and some demons) and idolized by Almaz. By the end of the game, you discover that he has gone out of his way to make Mao into the most horrible villain imaginable, trying to manipulate him into attacking the human world, simply out of boredom from having no "worthy" opponents. And when this fails thanks to the Power of Friendship, even the demons of the party call him out for his blatantly villainous actions, with Mao declaring cowardly Almaz a far more superior hero than Aurum.
  • A minor example in Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten; "Angel of Avarice" Vulcanus is more than a little put out when she realizes that the Archangel she admires is none other than the flaky otaku Flonne, who used the money Vulcanus collected to build a giant robot.
  • Played for Laughs in the post-game of Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance: Once Void Dark's reasons for his actions are laid bare for all to see, Majorita is shocked to realize that the fear conqueror she admired is nothing more than a thug with a literally insane sister complex.
• The Night Sentinels of Doom Eternal once considered the Khan Maykr the Mother God of their faith and their greatest ally against the forces of Hell. Upon learning that she made a deal with Hell for the use of Argent Energy, which was being made with the horribly tortured souls of their fallen, with the bodies of their fallen becoming more of the monstrous horrors that they were fighting, they abandoned their faith in her, decreeing that she would be their divinity no more. Unfortunately, many in Argent D'Nur were still addicted to Argent Energy and enslaved by the Maykrs' teachings, resulting in a civil war between the Sentinels.
• Dragalia Lost:
  • Elisanne had a huge admiration toward the Paladyn Ciella since she was a child and was inspired by her to become a Paladyn herself. Upon finding out Ciella joined Agito and resorted to slaughtering innocent people, Elisanne's opinion of her is shattered.
  • Basileus was the apostle that Pinon looked up to the most, and she is heartbroken to find out that he is a traitor. Upon finding out from Basileus himself that he was never loyal to them and only joined to serve as The Mole, Pinon no longer has any respect for him.
• Dragon Age
  • A downplayed example in Dragon Age: Origins, but Alistair initially shows great admiration for Teyrn Loghain mac Tir, saying that he's the one people should be looking to for victory in the Battle of Ostagar rather than King Cailan. Come Loghain's betrayal at that same battle, and Alistair wants nothing more than to take his head off. To the point that he'll leave the party permanently if you recruit Loghain into the Wardens at the Landsmeet.
  • In the Dragon Age: Origins Downloadable Content "Soldier's Peak", Sophia Dryden becomes this (posthumously) to her descendant Levi Dryden. While her goal of opposing a tyrant was admirable, she still resorted to Blood Magic and demon summoning when the chips were down and suffered the consequences.
  • First Enchanter Orsino in Dragon Age II can become this to Bethany if she joins the Circle. If Hawke takes the side of the templars during the endgame battle sequence, they can get Orsino to admit that he protected the serial killer responsible for turning their mother into a Frankenstein bride. In the mage endgame, Orsino only mentions Quentin offhandedly and we don't see how either Hawke sibling reacts.
    • The "Legacy" Downloadable Content turns Malcolm Hawke into one with The Reveal that he was a Blood Mage. Probably the most sympathetic example of this trope ever since he did it to seal away a powerful evil, was forced to do it with a threat to his lover, and he made sure his mage child(ren) knew of the dangers associated with it. Malcolm was ashamed of his past and hoped his family would never learn of it. His children still don't take the news very well but understand why he did it.
    • The Grey Wardens can become this to Carver if he joined them, after learning that Warden-Commander Larius gave the order to blackmail Malcolm Hawke into performing Blood Magic, because they threatened to kill Leandra if he refused. Particularly as Leandra was pregnant with his older sibling at the time.
  • Blackwall in Dragon Age: Inquisition becomes deeply disappointed in his fellow Grey Wardens over their reaction to the fake Calling and their manipulation by the Elder One. And most of the party feel this way towards Blackwall himself, after The Reveal that he's not the real Blackwall but a fugitive murderer who'd assumed the real Blackwall's identity. In general, the ones who have good relationship with him prior to the reveal like Cassandra ends up breaking her friendship with him, while the ones who have hostile relationship with him like Dorian end up offering to end their feud for good.
• Ensemble Stars! has a few examples:
  • Tomoya used to highly admire Wataru as an actor and joined the theatre club to learn from him, only to be very disappointed when he learned what an eccentric he is. However, as the year goes on he learns that he is still a good person and they become friends.
  • Tsukasa highly admired the idol unit Knights and was very excited to join, but was not nearly so impressed when he met his teammates, particularly the strange and whimsical leader Leo.
  • During the war, Chiaki totally believed in fine's image as a force for good taking down bad guys, only realising the truth after he got to know Kanata and realised that the oddballs didn't deserve the way they were treated. He still likes Eichi however and considers them friends (as it'd be difficult for Chiaki to dislike anyone), but doesn't talk about his previous fine support as he believes the first years would be disappointed in him and see him as less of a hero.
• One resident of Megaton in Fallout 3 put the Enclave on a pedestal based entirely on their radio propaganda. When they actually show up, they rapidly break their own pedestal. Kidnapping said fan was probably the least evil thing they did in the game.
• Veronica's mentor Elijah in Fallout: New Vegas: you are told about how he wants to know more about the outside world and how the Brotherhood of Steel should be working to help the others. Then you find out about what he has done over the events of Dead Money, in which he puts an Explosive Leash on you and three others and forces them to help him break into a pre-War casino vault.
• Fate/Grand Order:
  • Dr. Roman is a Fanboy of King Solomon, so when it becomes clear that he's trying to destroy the world, he's incredibly shocked and tries to use Sheba to prove he's not behind it. When the protagonist and Mash return from London, he's having a nervous breakdown. Later revelations indicate that his reaction has less to do with finding out his idol is evil, and more to do with shock that his body and name were being used by someone else.
  • When the party meets Marie Antoinette, she declares that she will make both Jeanne and Jeanne Alter surrender to her, but the way she said it makes it sound like she wants them sexually. Dr. Roman says, " ...It's falling apart...My image of Marie Antoinette is falling apart..."
  • Atalanta and Meltlilith are disgusted when they meet Artemis and find she is a lovestruck idiot who is totally obsessed with Orion. Especially since Artemis made Atalanta swear a vow of chastity when she was alive. The material books reveal that Penthesilea had a similar reaction.
  • Abigail Williams is disgusted when she meets King David and finds he is a pervert, saying this discovery is making her religious faith waver.
  • The Caster version of Artoria says she hates her mentor Merlin because he abandoned her.
  • Fairy Knight Lancelot, who is actually Melusine who stole Lancelot's identity, was a fangirl of Lancelot until she learned of his philandering ways and affair with Guinevere. Despite the fact she sees no problem with having an affair with the very Master her own Queen Morgan is interested in.
  • Space Ishtar's "Ishtarin" incarnation grew up on stories about Masters, which are practically extinct in the Servant Universe, and believed they were legendary warriors. She was greatly disappointed when she met the protagonist, Ritsuka Fujimaru, and found they are not suited for battle. This becomes a Rebuilt Pedestal when Ritsuka saves her life and helps her defeat enemies with their support abilities, causing her to realize what Masters actually do.
• Final Fantasy:
  • Cloud Strife got hit by this in Final Fantasy VII. As a teenager, he dreamed of joining the elite SOLDIER unit like his idol, the great warrior Sephiroth. When Cloud finally gets to go on a mission with Sephiroth, finding out that Sephiroth wasn't as noble as Cloud thought he was is the least of our hero's disappointments.
  • Frimelda Lotice in Final Fantasy Tactics A2 had this happen to her. She was revered as a powerful Blademaster, and fought alongside her friend Luc Sudarc in many battles. She, however, didn't know that Luc was hugely jealous of her, as he just wanted to surpass her but couldn't no matter how much he trained. So, he poisoned her, sentencing her to wander Ivalice as a pink zombie...until Luso and the gang rescue her. They return her to human form with the help of a special potion, and to return the favor, she joins Luso's clan. And she's cute, to boot.
    • She starts off as a Paladin with Dual Wield already mastered AND she has two swords equipped from the get-go, along with great stats.
  • Rurukuta in Final Fantasy XIV has this towards his mentor Hamon. As children, Rurukuta and Chuchuto were taken in by Hamon and decided to become his students. When Rurukuta discovered how weak Hamon had become in his old age and realized that he'd been lying to everyone about his strength, he turned his back on Hamon and the Pugilist's Guild.
• Fire Emblem :
  • In Fire Emblem: Thracia 776, Olwen initially admires her older brother Reinhardt, who is revered as a great warrior and a descendant of the Crusader Thrud. However, she grows appalled at Reinhardt's loyalty to his country of Friege despite the atrocities it commits. If Olwen survives the events of the game, by which time Reinhardt has been defeated and killed barring the player going out of their way to spare him, the ending remarks that even thinking of him filled her with rage.
  • In the Tellius duology, this applies to (in Path of Radiance) most of the Begnion senators, and (in Radiant Dawn) the god that most of the populace worshipped. There are also inversions: Micaiah dismisses Sothe's constant praise of Ike as exaggerated at best, while Soren describes Micaiah, not without reason, as the figurehead of a zealous fanatic movement. When they all team up in the finale, they see that all the praise really is warranted.
  • Fire Emblem: Three Houses
    • Dedue, Dimitri's retainer, admired Gilbert, a knight in the service of the Kingdom of Faerghus, and saw him as a role model. In their supports, however, Dedue expresses disgust for Gilbert's abandoning the kingdom in shame over his failure to stop the Tragedy of Duscur, believing he doesn't live up to the stories Dimitri told him. Dedue has a more amicable relationship with Gilbert in their B support, but the lack of an A support or a paired ending implies that Dedue never completely regained his respect for Gilbert.
    • Byleth's father Jeralt formerly served in the Knights of Seiros under the church's archbishop Rhea, who saved his life. However, he left the Knights around the time his child was born, since he noticed that Byleth lacked a heartbeat and didn't even cry, and Rhea refused to give clear answers to his questions. He returns to the Knights of Seiros just after the game begins, but is clearly wary of Rhea until his death late in Part 1. He sums up his relationship with Rhea in his diary, which Byleth reads after his death.
      "I used to think the world of Lady Rhea. Now I'm terrified of her."
    • After several months at the monastery, however, he starts to ease up on this. While it never reaches Rebuilt Pedestal territory, Jeralt does start to have less issue with working for Rhea, even wondering if perhaps he'd overreacted all those years ago.
• In Ghost of Tsushima, Jin Sakai, the Player Character, initially holds his uncle and surrogate father Lord Shimura in the highest regard, and spends the first act of the game trying to reach his uncle and release him from Mongol captivity. However, after releasing him, Lord Shimura insists on recapturing his castle by sending his soldiers in through the front gate, which enables the Mongols to blow the bridge up and kill most of his men. Jin is disgusted by his uncle's willingness to treat the soldiers as expendable for being common-born, and by his insistence on fighting the Mongols with "honourable" tactics when it is clear that such poor strategies will end up giving the Mongols a greater chance of conquering Tsushima. But the final straw comes when Jin sneaks into the Mongol camp and poisons their milk, and Lord Shurima pleads with his nephew to blame his friend Yuna the thief for it, regardless of the fact that Yuna has never done anything unhelpful throughout the war, which will see her sentenced to death. Jin rejects this offer, embracing his title as the Ghost, and by the end of the game, Lord Shimura is ordered by the Shogunate to kill his nephew to atone for his mistakes.
• Grandia II takes this trope to the extreme, making the player think that the Church of Granas has a plan to stop the resurrection of Valmar and the arrival of the Day of Darkness. As it turns out, Granas is actually dead, the Church knew this all along, and the Pope actually wants to resurrect Valmar to become the new God. In addition to that, Granas and Valmar weren't actually gods, but really powerful scientists. The Divine Sword is actually a sword-shaped spacecraft, and Valmar's legion of darkness is actually a robot army.
  • Averted with Granas himself though. Whatever his nature, his ideals were genuine and the only thing he was guilty of was coddling his followers far too much, stagnating independent human development (why bother innovating if your god can conjure starships out of thin air?). In the end, he died sacrificing himself to save his people.
    • The cutscene where Ryudo gets the Granasaber implies that not only is he Not Quite Dead, but that he's actually Skye, Ryudo's eagle partner.
• In Guild Wars Nightfall, Varesh Osha is seen by many as an ideal ruler of her nation. Turns out she's a batshit insane worshipper of the resident Eldritch Abomination.
• Halo 5: Guardians: In the "All Hail" trailer, with the Master Chief lying wounded in a ruined landscape at the base of an impossibly larger-than-life statue of himself, while Jameson Locke accuses him of betrayal and prepares to execute him. In the actual game, Locke never loses his respect towards Chief.
  Locke: All hail the conquering hero. Let us remember him as our protector and not the one who gave us... this. As our savior and not our betrayer. Let us see him forever as you [the statue] and not as you [the real Master Chief]. All hail the conquering hero. The one who was supposed to save us all! But now, I must save us from you.
• inFAMOUS: Cole's girlfriend Trish breaks up with him when the Voice of Survival's Malicious Slander leads her to believe that Cole deliberately set off the Ray Sphere explosion that claimed her sister's life. Depending on whether or not the player does Good or Evil Karma, she'll either reconcile with Cole or die cursing his name.
• In Injustice: Gods Among Us, Regime Captain Marvel, still a kid here, looked up to Regime Superman, even going along with his ideas of a better world. However, after witnessing Superman murdering Lex Luthor, learning people now hate him and finding out that he plans to wipe out Metropolis and Gotham City before marching over to the brighter universe and taking it over, Captain Marvel calls it quits. Sadly, Regime Superman kills him before he can bail. However, it does inspire another to do so: Regime Flash.
• Played to the hilt in Jade Empire, where Master Li, The Glorious Strategist, takes over the Jade Empire by torturing and siphoning the power of the newly-corrupted Water Dragon for his own, after using you to remove the previous ruler...upon whose success he immediately kills you. You get better.
  • Also, The Emperor for his daughter, Sun Lian/Silk Fox. Even the revelation that Master Li is the Big Bad and the root cause of the plan to usurp the Water Dragon's power does not absolve him in his daughter's eyes. In several endings of the game she deliberately steps up to be the Emperor he wasn't
  • Master Li is not only the Broken Pedestal for the Player Character but also for Dawn Star, especially when she finds out he's her father who doesn't give a shit.
• In Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep, Terra, who has been overly-conscious and quite a bit afraid by the darkness in his own heart, had quite a bit of respect for Master Xehanort, who assumed a guiding role in regards to channeling the darkness towards something good. Sadly, his respect for the old master turned entirely into rage and hatred when Xehanort manipulated him into fighting his father-figure Eraqus, murdering said father figure, and revealing himself to have been screwing with everyone Terra knows for the sake of his evil plan. In fact, part of Xehanort's plan was to purposely set up this trope to maximize Terra's hatred and send his darkness into overdrive, giving the old man the chance to take that younger body for himself.
• L.A. Noire has Cole Phelps, a hero from World War II and a cop who has solved tons of tough cases while sticking within the boundaries of his duties. He goes from patrolman all the way to Vice and the entire department is singing praises for him. However, Phelps is caught having an affair — with a German, no less — and those same people start hating his guts while Phelps himself gets demoted to Arson.
• In Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2, upon finding out that he was once a Sarafan priest, Raziel idolizes them and tries to live up to his heritage. This fades away throughout the game, as he discovers the humane side of the vampires and sees the Sarafan for the Knight Templars they truly were.
• The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie has a portion of the Imperial Army having this reaction towards Rean Schwarzer due to his status as the national hero and yet decided to strive to end the war when the reason they enlisted to the army was because of him in the first place.
• LunarLux: The Murk Slayer used to admire the Lunex Force, but currently distrusts them for being pawns of Saros, the true instigator of the Murk outbreaks and the Mad Scientist who experimented on him. The only Lunex officer he respects is the previous general, Thea Grey, since she protected him from Saros. He later opens up to Bella and joins her as the second party member. Towards the end of the game, he becomes more willing to work with other Lunex Warriors and ends up joining as the new commander to replace Vivia, making this a Rebuilt Pedestal.
• Mage Gauntlet has Whitebeard. The ritual to repair the Dark Realm seal requires sending a mage through the portal permanently, which is the ultimate fate of most of his apprentices. He only gave Lexi the gauntlet to make her an acceptable sacrifice. Furthermore, Hurgoth is merely a gatekeeper for much stronger creatures, and Whitebeard has been using his fame as an excuse for every kind of forbidden magical research in existence, ultimately getting one other mage turned into a lich, possibly getting another consumed by a slime hivemind, and creating an entire army of walking body horror.
• Mass Effect:
  • Jacob Taylor's father, Ronald, vanished 10 years ago. When they receive a message and go to the unhabited planet to save them, turns out that after his ship crashed and the captain died, Ronald forced the lower crew members to eat the planet's toxic food, which caused their minds to degrade, while they tried to fix a beacon to call for aid. Female crew members were assigned to officers, like pets. A year later, the beacon was ready, but Ronald figured the report would look bad and wanted to stay. He then had the other officers killed. Gradually the degraded males started to rebel, becoming "hunters" as even in a decayed state they knew things weren't right. Ronald held out for ten years, until his supplies ran low and he called for aid. Needless to say, Jacob was utterly disgusted and would've killed his old man, if not for the fact he "wasn't worth pulling the trigger". If your Shepard is a renegade, you can suggest Jacob to give his father a weapon with one bullet. If you pick the neutral option, he will get killed by his own men.
  • And then there is Rael'Zorah, Tali's father and a part of the Admiralty Board. Her father is found dead on the ship and Tali was accused of treason. When she find out what happened, it turns out Rael'Zorah was willingly endangering his own crew's lives to create a measure to control the Geth much to her horror.
  • A few people, most prominently Ashley/Kaidan (even more hardhitting if they were your love interest in Mass Effect), consider Shepard to be one since s/he's working with Cerberus, a terrorist organization in Mass Effect 2, a conclusion that the Illusive Man encouraged with strategic information leaks. This is also brought up in a news story:
    Newscaster: Emotions at Shepard's alleged survival are mixed. While some are overjoyed to see her/him return, others believe her/his false death was a betrayal.
  • This is how Captain Anderson describes his meeting with Saren. As a potential recruit into the SPECTREs, Anderson was sent on a mission while supervised by the most successful, well-known and feared Spectre of them all, Saren Arterius.... Who turned out to be a brutal Blood Knight whose ulterior motives used massive amounts of overkill that ultimately ended in the death dozens of civilians in the completion of his mission before finally laying the blame on Anderson when political backlash followed.
  • Even before that, in the first game, you can make Shepard into one for Conrad Verner.
  • Through the first and second games, the Protheans have been regarded as a race of very advanced and powerful, but benign Benevolent Precursors. Then in the third game, we meet Javik, the last Prothean warrior, and find out that the Protheans were actually a highly imperialistic society who conquered anyone they encountered and integrated them into their empire as "subservient races." Liara in particular is quite disappointed, once implies that they were monsters, and comes to consider her earlier writings on them as foolishly naive.
    Liara: You're a Prothean! You were supposed to have all the answers!
    • Given more time, she changes her stance a little, no longer feeling betrayed and able to think of them more objectively.
  • Liara gets another one when she finds out her own government has maintained their technological superiority by hiding a Prothean Beacon from the rest of the galaxy, in defiance of Citadel laws. It's even worse when Liara realizes her own mother was probably in on the coverup, although EDI suggests that Benezia kept Liara out of the loop to protect her daughter.
  • Cerberus becomes one for Miranda at the end of 2 and in 3. Shepard themselves can invoke this in their conversations with The Illusive Man in 3, pointing out that not only has he turned his back on Shepard, but on everything Cerberus was supposed to stand for.
  • Mordin Solus's student Maelon is so disgusted by his mentor's role in trying to maintain the genophage that he ends up resorting to extreme and barbaric means to cure it. This in turn, ends up infuriating Mordin when he finds out.
  Maelon: I was your student! I looked up to you!
  Mordin: Unacceptable experiments. Unacceptable goals. No choice. Have to kill you.
• In Megadimension Neptunia VII, Uni's respect for Noire goes down the Memory card when she sees that her Happy Place is where she is an idol/voice actress with no responsibilities of ruling her country.
• Metal Gear:
  • The reveal that the leader of the anti-terrorist black ops unit FOXHOUND was also the leader of the international terrorist organization Outer Heaven caused Snake to intentionally ban his use on Big Boss' CQC techniques, among other things. Solid Snake starts using CQC again in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, after he finds out the truth of The Boss's sacrifice (and also learns that she created CQC, not Big Boss).
  • Discussed in Metal Gear Solid between Meryl and Snake when she jokingly accuses him of trying to be her Knight in Shining Armor. Notably it never actually becomes a thing and Meryl consistently believes that Snake is better than he thinks he is right up until the end.
    Meryl: Just what I'd expect from the legendary Solid Snake. You trying to sweep me off my feet?
    Snake: Don't worry. You'll land back on them once you meet me. The reality is no match for the legend, I'm afraid.
  • Subverted in Metal Gear Solid 3, in which we are initially led to believed that Naked Snake's mentor, The Boss, had defected to the Soviet Union. It turns out that the defection was a ruse to gain Volgin's trust and steal the Philosophers' Legacy from him, but after Volgin framed The Boss for assisting in the destruction of Sokolov's Research Facility, alerting her presence to Khrushchev, the U.S. sent Snake to kill her and cover up her involvement. This essentially shifts the target of his broken pedestal moment from his mentor to his government. Then the pieces get broken further in Portable Ops when it is hinted that the events of Snake Eater were orchestrated. What is left of the pedestal is ground to bits in Peace Walker when it is revealed that the U.S. government tried to murder The Boss multiple times, intentionally sabotaging their own efforts to win the Cold War to Make It Look Like an Accident, which culminated in intentionally supporting Volgin's nuclear assault on his own country just so they'd have an excuse to send Snake after The Boss. All because she was on the verge of confronting their war crimes and totalitarianism, potentially with a justifiable coup.
  • Double-Subverted in Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker; while Snake learns to respect the sacrifices The Boss made to make the world a better place, he loses all the trust he had for her because she betrayed everyone she ever fought alongside for the sake of the greater good: By pursuing world peace, she effectively deemed her former comrades disposable nobodies. "She put down her gun", and in doing so, fully denied that soldiers had a greater purpose, or even a reason to exist. Snake really doesn't like it when people are considered disposable. As a result, he goes from a wandering mercenary to the infamous military commander that we all know him for.
    • Also, the Wham Episode epilogue completely destroys any remaining faith Snake had that The Patriots could ever make the world a better place. If a teenage girl can turn out to be a psychotic Patriot spy who is willing to nuke America just so they can control the world's mercenaries, then Zero and The Patriots could eventually create a world where no one can be trusted and everyone's a puppet. This is the tipping point that convinces him to wage war on entire countries by any means necessary.
  • Played completely and tragically straight in Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. In the post-credits scene of the True Ending, Ocelot tells Kaz of Big Boss's true plan: leaving everyone he ever knew behind so he could conduct his own war against Cipher, building the true "Outer Heaven" without his old comrades, and having the current Diamond Dogs acting as their decoy, complete with creating an exact body double of Big Boss (who is the character you play as throughout the whole game). After losing his comrades, his limbs, and even his dream, Kaz finally gets his revenge on those who wronged him, only to find out that he feels completely hollow and that his best friend is an impostor, the real Big Boss having abandoned him without a goodbye. Having truly lost everything, Kaz furiously swears that Big Boss will pay for his betrayal, and that he will be more than happy to train the phantom and both his sons to oppose him.
• Minecraft: Story Mode: The Order of the Stone can be this when it's revealed they faked defeating the Ender Dragon. As with most of Jesse's reactions you can react however you want to and be as angry as the options allow. You also have the choice of whether or not to reveal their secret to the world.
• Mortal Kombat:
  • In both timelines, Raiden started out with great faith in the Elder Gods, only to lose it due to their inaction. He even calls them out several times for their slackness in maintaining the stability of the realms. After being promoted to Elder God, he could not interfere when Shang Tsung and Quan Chi killed his protégé Liu Kang in the original timeline. Disgusted at his peers for their refusal to intervene, he renounces his position as an Elder God, gathering his mortal allies to stop the Deadly Alliance.
  • In the new timeline, the events of Mortal Kombat 9 and Mortal Kombat X have sapped the faith Raiden had for the Elder Gods, so he begins to see them as more burden than help, considering they did nothing to stop Shao Kahn or Shinnok, both of whom regarded them as "toothless worms" and spineless cowards. This is clearly evident in The Stinger for MKX, where he decides to take matters into his own hands by reducing Shinnok to a mere living head and using a more hard-line stance on defending Earthrealm from external threats.
  • In Mortal Kombat 11, this happens to several people.
    • Frost turns against her former mentor Sub Zero because he chose to peacefully reconcile with Scorpion and ended their clans' long feud and Frost cannot stand how they now became Bash Brothers.
    • Jacqui has this with her father, the older Jax when the latter chose to ally themselves with Kronika, albeit with well-meaning intentions.
    • Downplayed with Jade and Kotal Khan. Jade is horrified by the several Kick the Dog moments Kotal has since her death and he is no longer the person she fell in love with. However, she chooses to remain by his side and believes he can change for the better.
    • Kuai Liang (Sub Zero II) has this when he encounters his older brother Bi-Han (Sub Zero I) who has now become Noob Saibot and revels in the evil power granted by Quan-Chi and dismisses his younger brother's leadership of the Lin Kuei as weak. Kuai Liang is disgusted by how his brother is Not Brainwashed and that he's a Card-Carrying Villain who wants to plunge the universe into darkness.
      Kuai Liang: We share blood. We are not brothers.
• You can actually point out that Aribeth in Neverwinter Nights has done this to your player as part of convincing her to come back from the dark side.
• Nobody Saves the World: Being informed of Nobody's true identity causes Randy to reevaluate his relationship with his beloved mentor and realize that Nostramagus never truly cared for him and only used him as a source of cheap labor.
• In No Straight Roads, when Mayday finds out that her idol Kul Fyra, lead guitarist of the Goolings, and Tatiana, the CEO and Founder of NSR who banned rock music, are actually one and the same, she is devastated, calling her out for giving up on rock. Not only that, but May also points out that it was Kul Fyra that motivated her to bring rock back to Vinyl City. Fortunately becomes a Rebuilt Pedestal when Tatiana manages to help them stop the satellite.
  • Tatiana is also this to Kliff, who responds FAR more poorly to her actions than Mayday does, even going as far as to attempt a Colony Drop just to spite her.
• Octopath Traveler: Albus is this to Revello Forsythe. Once a friend of both Forsythe and Geoffrey Azelhart and Captain of the city watch, Albus was privately frustrated that his honour wasn't earning him as much money as he would have liked, and eventually switched sides to the Obsidians in secret. He would become one of the three Crow Men who murdered Geoffrey for finding out about the Gate of Finis, top-secret information to the Obsidians. Albus then pulled a Faking the Dead deception, tricking the residents of Noblecourt, Forsythe included, into believing he had died with honour resisting the Obsidians. In the present, the late Geoffrey's daughter Primrose Azelhart, accompanied by Forsythe, infiltrates the Right-hand Crow's lair, only to discover his true identity as Albus. Naturally, Forsythe does not take The Reveal well at all.
• Persona:
  • Played with in Persona 3. Yukari Takeba's father became her main source of hope and believed he was innocent after a traumatic event left her father dead as well as hundreds of other scientists. Said event not only ostracized her family courtesy of the public backlash, but also subsequently strained her relationship with her mother after she abandoned Yukari for other men, being unable to cope with her husband's death. Growing up lonely but willful, Yukari's belief in her father being falsely accused for the accident that claimed his life was the reason she transferred to Gekkoukan High School, two years prior before joining S.E.E.S. Couple that with her receiving a letter from her father addressed for her to receive ten years later, was the catalyst for her Persona Io's awakening. Yukari's belief gets severely tested in "The Journey" and for a time after a certain event, was forced to admit that her father was guilty of mass murder, she stays with S.E.E.S. to atone for her father's mistakes. Eventually it's revealed that he only did what he had to do, being one of the few scientists left with their sanity intact he delayed the coming of the end of the world, with that revelation combined with his message of immense love for Yukari, the scene becomes Rebuilt Pedestal, being the moment Yukari awakens her ultimate Persona Isis with a renewed will to fight.
  • Played with in Persona 4. After a major character is seemingly Killed Off for Real, the protagonist's surrogate father figure, a by-the-book and thoroughly incorruptible policeman, runs off apparently to kill the man thought responsible; this is part of a Batman Gambit on the part of the writers to induce the player to kill the suspect when given the opportunity, which is a one-way ticket to the Bad Ending. Later on, after having some time to chill out (like the player characters) he was able to see that the evidence surrounding him just didn't fit and wanted to just get some more info from him.
  • In Persona 5, Yusuke Kitagawa was raised by the famed artist Ichiryusai Madarame, who has been plagiarizing him and other apprentices for years. After learning that Madarame let Yusuke's mother die from a seizure in order to take credit for her work as well as to take Yusuke, he loses all sense of admiration for the man. His personal Confidant storyline deals heavily with his feelings regarding his former mentor. He eventually comes to peace with him after a former colleague of Madarame stated that when Yusuke fell ill as a child, Madarame was desperate to save him, indicating at least some sense of affection (albeit pragmatic), and Yusuke realizes that he can still see Madarame as a father figure and Mentor while still despising his manipulative and egotistic nature.
• Pokémon:
  • In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky, Wigglytuff's beginnings as an explorer are revealed. As a child, he met Armaldo in a deep forest. Armaldo told the then-Igglybuff that he was a retired explorer, and they went on lots of missions and found lots of treasure. Igglybuff idolised Armaldo and everything was going perfectly well... until Armaldo got arrested. He was a wanted criminal, not an explorer. Igglybuff almost had a mental breakdown and refused to believe that Armaldo was bad, even as he was being led away in custody. Whether they met again after Armaldo got out of prison is unknown.
    • And subverted. Armaldo really did care for Igglybuff and was curious to see how far he'd go as an explorer. Armaldo comforted Igglybuff and told him to continue exploring for him. And he promised to explore with him again once he did his time.
    • This occurs again with your partner and Dusknoir. When it is revealed Dusknoir is from the future and is only here to kill you, your partner, and Grovyle, he/she can hardly believe it until they hear it straight from Dusknoir. It doesn't help that the person you thought was a villain (Grovyle) is actually a hero and that you directly contributed to Grovyle's capture.
  • Present in Pokémon Black and White with N finding out that he's nothing but a brainwashed child soldier and that his father Ghestis is intent on banning Pokémon use so Team Plasma can "liberate" them all and use their power to conquer Unova.
• Played for Laughs with Fourth-Wall Observer Raiho in Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army. Raiho was originally a Jack Frost who profoundly admired Raidou and wished to become Raidou the Fifteenth, fusing himself with a Bancho uniform to create Raiho. The funny part? Raiho defines Small Name, Big Ego, and promptly forgets his fanboying of Raidou, realizing he's so much cooler now.
• Ratchet & Clank:
  • The eponymous duo start out the series looking up to Captain Qwark, until they discover he's in league with Chairman Drek's plans. It only gets worse by the time of Up Your Arsenal, in which they discover that Qwark had faked his own death and flat-out bailed on the rest of the galaxy to save himself rather than help beat Dr. Nefarious (although to his credit, he does perform a Heel–Face Turn later, thanks to Clank giving him a You Are Better Than You Think You Are speech earlier). Boy, does Ratchet get pissed:
    Ratchet: You're pathetic, Qwark! I can't believe I once looked up to you!
  • He's also this to two other people: Artemis Zogg, the Big Bad of the comic, who becomes embittered after Qwark ran for president instead of helping him out with his presidential campaign like he promised, and Stuart Zurgo, a.k.a the Qwark fanboy from a sidequest in Going Commando, as his numerous scandals lead the latter to become disillusioned with him into becoming the Big Bad of Full Frontal Assault.
  • It also happens in the 2016 game, although here, Qwark does legitimately regret his actions after seeing Novalis get destroyed and spends the ending in prison doing community service to make up for it^note although that one is debatable considering the fact that the whole game is Qwark retelling the events of the first game, and when taking into account just how much of a vain Unreliable Narrator Qwark can be....
• In Red Dead Redemption and its prequel, John and Arthur were both extremely loyal to Dutch who had raised them since they were young and in turn, they were fiercely loyal to him as their Parental Substitute. However, their faith begins to waver when Dutch starts making questionable decisions and actions that endanger the gang more and more and Dutch's behavior grows more erratic and hostile towards them. It wasn't long before both of them start wondering if Dutch ever loved them in return, only loved them very conditionally as long as they obeyed him or took them in to use them as his pawns. For John, the pedestal was shaken when Dutch makes no attempt to rescue him from prison and it was definitely shattered after Dutch abandoned him to die after being shot in the final train heist. Similarly, Arthur realizes what kind of person Dutch is when Dutch abandons Arthur during the oil refinery raid and gaslights him when Arthur confronts him about it.
• In Robopon, Prince Tail's father had a shady past with Dr. Zero, and won the Legend 1 title by nearly killing the doctor after Zero defeated him. Tail has a Heroic BSoD when Zero tells him the truth.
• In Samurai Maiden, Iyo the ninja has an extremely admiring and idolizing view of her master, Oda Nobunaga, after the Sengoku Era's wars destroyed her village and left her orphaned and alone in the world. Though she barely saw him due to the secretive nature of her duties, the few times she has witnessed Nobunaga has given her the image of a benevolent, driven, if eccentric leader who only wants to protect his people, even if he has to make his heart that of a demon. Once Nobunaga decides to become the Demon Lord to stop all war by effectively destroying all reality and killing everyone, Iyo spends a great deal of the game reconciling that the man who saved her and showed so much benevolence is now an existential threat to everyone.
• Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time: Penelope once had a major crush on Sly, but it suddenly went into a 180 spin, and she's now trying to murder him (and Murray) out of sheer hatred and jealousy. A rare case where the admirer broke the pedestal, as Sly did nothing to justify Penelope's rage.
• Red of Solatorobo gets a Fangirl in the Duel Ship fights. When she finds out that Red is ordered around by his 13-year-old younger sister, she declares him extremely uncool. When she tries to beat Red in a battle later to find closure, he ends up on a Rebuilt Pedestal and she declares her fangirlish love for him again. This does not please her newly acquired male fanbase.
• Dr. Eggman looked up to his grandfather, Professor Gerald Robotnik. However, after Professor Gerald tried to exterminate humanity in Sonic Adventure 2, narrowly averted by teaming up with Sonic, Eggman doesn't think of him nearly as highly anymore.
  • Then in Shadow the Hedgehog, it's revealed that Gerald Robotnik struck a deal with the Black Arms alien race (who at this point have invaded the earth and revealed their intention to enslave humans for food) that in exchange for their help in his research (which led to the eponymous character's creation), the Black Arms could have the planet. Eggman upon discovering this is nothing short of aghast. However, it is later revealed in the game's Final Story that Gerald regretted his decision and originally developed the Eclipse Cannon to destroy the Black Comet — the Black Arms' home planet — and intended for Shadow to carry that task out in order to save their world.
• Spider-Man (PS4):
  • Peter Parker is horrified to learn that his mentor Dr. Otto Octavius has become the villainous Dr. Octopus. During the Final Boss battle, Peter is sobbing as he yells out how much Otto has fallen.
  • The City That Never Sleeps DLC sees a mutual one between Peter and Yuri as Yuri loses faith in the system and Spider-Man after the trouble they had in bringing down Hammerhead, whereas Peter is horrified to see Yuri go off the drop end, becoming a murderous vigilante.
• Star Wars:
  • In Knights of the Old Republic, Republic hero Carth Onasi was scarred when his mentor and idol, Saul Karath, turned out to be working for the Sith. He retains a deep mistrust of all Jedi, and the revelation that the player character is the amnesiac Darth Revan, former commander of the Sith rebellion doesn't help matters.
  • Mission's quest involves finding out her brother deliberately left her behind when he left Taris.
  • A morality-swapped variant occurs the second game, The Sith Lords. Visas Maar's master, Darth Nihilus, is constantly portrayed as a vortex of death, more a force of nature than a human being, whom Visas is obviously terrified of (she didn't exactly become his apprentice by choice). Until you defeat him, at which point you can let Visas take his mask off. When you ask her what she saw when she took the mask, she'll calmly reply "A man, nothing more."
  • Atris has this attitude towards a female Exile, having idolized her prior to the Mandalorian Wars.
  • A Sith Warrior in Star Wars: The Old Republic invokes this trope when recruiting Jaesa. Jaesa is a gifted, but inexperienced Padawan who can "see" the true nature of others. Her master and Darth Baras (your handler) have a long-running feud. When confronting the old Jedi, you can force Jaesa to "see" her master has been hopelessly warped by his grudge, causing her to abandon him, and serve you instead. It is up to you if you want to keep her inclinations to the Light Side, or Break the Cutie by twisting her into a very psychotic verion of The Dark Side, however.
• Sanchez of Suikoden is an excellent example. A part of your army since the very beginning, it eventually turns out he was a spy working for the enemy the entire time, and when the Empire is close to losing he gets desperate and fatally injures your army's chief strategist. The icing on the cake and what makes the situation relevant is that your faction ultimately decides that the newly-formed government could not withstand the scandal of one of its founding members turning out to be a traitor the entire time, and he lives out the rest of his life peacefully under a secret house arrest. Publicly speaking, his image as a hero is never tarnished.
  • A subtle hint is provided since the castle is founded: if you took the time to look at the massive tablet that has the 108 stars and people's names, you'll notice he's not on the list. You'll also notice he is the only one living in the castle who's not on the list.
• Tales of the Abyss has this happening at least twice.
  • Van Grants for Luke, Tear and Guy, Legretta for Tear, possibly Ingobert for his daughter Natalia; the two ultimately reconcile after the truth comes to light, but Guy suggests that they can't necessarily go back to the way they were before.
    • Interestingly enough, Legretta, in a final letter read after her death, mentions feeling concerned that her student Tear saw her as an ideal, and hopes that Tear will follow her own path, a rare case in which the character on the broken pedestal attempts to dispel the admirer's notions.
  • You can see this in Lloyd's reaction to Kratos betraying them in Tales of Symphonia.
  • Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World has Richter Abend. Poor, poor, Emil.
• In Tales from the Borderlands, this is the entire crux of Rhys' Character Development from start to finish. In episode one he's a Hyperion employee who deeply admires Handsome Jack, and his present day self says that back then, he wanted to be "just like him." Come episode five, after he's spent time with a hyperrealistic AI of Handsome Jack constructed shortly before his death and seen just how vengeful, self-centered, and gleefully violent he really is, Rhys can't believe that he ever once idolized the image of him that he was sold. If you choose to play him a certain way, you can kickstart this process very early, having Rhys be hostile and uncooperative towards Jack from the minute they meet.
  Rhys: You’re an absolute psychopath. Yeah, I mean, I think some naive part of me wanted to believe you were just misunderstood, but no, no... you are the worst person I have ever met.
• Tomb Raider (2013): Lara used to admire James Whitman, but by the time of the game has seen him for the narcissistic Slave to PR and Know-Nothing Know-It-All he really is. When she discovers a note to his soon-to-be ex-wife, in which he tries to convince her to wait until after the Yamatai expedition to divorce him largely because he wants to avoid negative publicity, while causally mentioning how he plans to steal the credit for Lara's theories and hard work if they prove correct, she explicitly remarks she's disgusted with herself for ever having looked up to him.
• In Transformers: Devastation, it's revealed that Optimus and all other Autobots looked up to Nova Prime as an idealistic figure...until he became corrupted and Shockwave spilled the beans that it was he who wanted Earth to be terraformed into a new Cybertron.
• True Crime: New York City had Terry Higgins, a cop who helped Marcus from slipping off the slope; he is presumably dead early on. It was revealed he was The Mole and was quite corrupt despite how Marcus saw him. Marcus will either kill him immediately if his ethics are less than questionable or attempt to arrest him but Terry dying.
• In Until Dawn, Josh's friendships with the others crumble because of his horrible and traumatic prank on them but Sam in particular felt betrayed the most by the former's actions as the two of them had become close the last year and she felt they had genuinely bonded over the loss of Hannah and Beth together.
• Subverted in Vandal Hearts 2, where the resident messiah figure, St. Nirvath, is revealed to have been a mass murderer and glory seeker, causing a crisis of faith in one of the characters. It turns out that while Nirvath is guilty of wiping out a large portion of humanity, he did so in order to save the remainder from a devastating disease and was convinced that history would remember him as a criminal and not as a saviour no matter how necessary his actions were.
• In Viewtiful Joe, Captain Blue turns out to be one for Joe, after he reveals himself as the Big Bad. However, After Blue has a Heel–Face Turn it seems Joe respects him again.
• In The Walking Dead: Season One, Clementine automatically trusts Lee from the beginning, and you can build that trust through certain actions and by generally being there for her. However, Clementine has a strong moral code, which Lee can offend if he acts over-aggressively or immorally. This trope may occur unless the player acts like the man Clementine expects Lee to be. Tread carefully.
• In Wild ARMs 5, Dean worships and tries to emulate the famous golem hunter Nightburn. When it turns out he's The Quisling for the Veruni, his pedestal shatters.
• In The World Ends with You, Neku is a total CAT fanboy. Later on, he discovers that Mr. Hanekoma, a guy who's been real helpful to him, is the elusive CAT, and starts fanboying even harder. Then, in the final week, Neku discovers a lot of clues that suggest that CAT is the Composer, and goes through a textbook case of denial, then losing faith in CAT as they approach the Composer's chamber. Only, as Kitaniji tells him, Hanekoma is not the Composer. The very end of the game, plus the Secret Reports, however, tell you that he's still not someone to trust, albeit better intentioned than Kitaniji or Joshua.
  • Likewise, in NEO: The World Ends with You, Rindo is a fan of Motoi, an online influencer known as An0ther. While Rindo and Motoi are on opposing teams in the Reapers' Game, there aren't any hard feelings between them, and Rindo considers teaming up with Motoi. By the end of the second week, though, it's revealed that Motoi was manipulating Rindo in a bid to become a Reaper, and he plagiarized his content from other people.
• World of Warcraft Battle for Azeroth: Sylvanas Windrunner, believed to be the 'savior' of the Horde by many that leads them to victory above the opposing Alliance, completely shatters her reputation when fighting Lord Overlord Saurfang in a Mak'Gora claiming that the Horde means nothing to her and has been using the whole faction as pawns in her own plans.

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