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* InformedWrongness: Marge lies to Homer about pretending to be a DragQueen. When he finds out and confronts her, inadvertently revealing her deception, his actions are treated as a MoralEventHorizon. However, Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions, and not once was she ever depicted as in the wrong. Even when she put his life in danger in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E14TheSevenBeerSnitch The Seven Beer Snitch]]", Homer was the one shown to be at fault. Yet Homer is treated as selfish when he does the same to her. Even when outing her, he realized that he wouldn’t have had a problem with it.

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* InformedWrongness: InformedWrongness:
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Marge lies to Homer about pretending to be a DragQueen. When he finds out and confronts her, inadvertently revealing her deception, his actions are treated as a MoralEventHorizon. However, Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions, and not once was she ever depicted as in the wrong. Even when she put his life in danger in "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E14TheSevenBeerSnitch The Seven Beer Snitch]]", Homer was the one shown to be at fault. Yet Homer is treated as selfish when he does the same to her. Even when outing her, he realized that he wouldn’t have had a problem with it.



* JustHereForGodzilla: Some only watched this episode for [[SignatureScene the drag performance]]. Particularly to see [[AttractiveBentGender Smithers and Sideshow Mel]] in drag.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: JustHereForGodzilla:
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Some only watched this episode for [[SignatureScene the drag performance]]. Particularly to see [[AttractiveBentGender Smithers and Sideshow Mel]] in drag.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Old Jewish Man is horrified by the prospect that UsefulNotes/BernieSanders [[UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump isnt]] isn't]] the President. Just wait a few years…years, and Sanders actually campaigned to be President (though he ultimately lost out to UsefulNotes/JoeBiden)
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* InformedWrongness: Marge lies to Homer about pretending to be a DragQueen. When he finds out and confronts her, inadvertently revealing her deception, his actions are treated as a MoralEventHorizon. However, Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions, and not once was she ever depicted as in the wrong. Even when she put his life in danger in Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E14TheSevenBeerSnitch, Homer was the one shown to be at fault. Yet Homer is treated as selfish when he does the same to her. Even when outing her, he realized that he wouldn’t have had a problem with it.

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* InformedWrongness: Marge lies to Homer about pretending to be a DragQueen. When he finds out and confronts her, inadvertently revealing her deception, his actions are treated as a MoralEventHorizon. However, Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions, and not once was she ever depicted as in the wrong. Even when she put his life in danger in Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E14TheSevenBeerSnitch, "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E14TheSevenBeerSnitch The Seven Beer Snitch]]", Homer was the one shown to be at fault. Yet Homer is treated as selfish when he does the same to her. Even when outing her, he realized that he wouldn’t have had a problem with it.



--> '''Marge''': ''And what hurts the most is that I can't imagine there's anything he can say or do to make me come back.''

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--> '''Marge''': ''And what hurts the most is that I can't imagine there's anything he can say or do to make me come back.''''
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** Marge is a tourist. Inadvertent at first, sure, but immediately all-in on taking everything she needs from her new friends’ identities to shore up her own. So when Homer, spurred on by Moe’s meddling, crashes Marge’s next party and outs her as a woman, those lowered expectations lead us to think that the necessary rapprochement will simply be between the cis, hetero husband and wife, with the colorful, “fabulous” drag plotline being discarded as no longer necessary. But that’s not what happens. When the partygoers file out grumbling following Homer’s revelation, it’s not due to some stereotypical “Ew, straights” disgruntlement, but a genuine anger that a cis woman has been masquerading as a member of their community to take advantage of them, and their identity. They accuse Marge of “appropriating everything,” and they’re right. As much as Marge’s gripe with Homer for undermining her success and newfound confidence is legitimate, so ,s that of the people she’s used to get that success and confidence.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: This major complaint of this episode is while a decent episode it came off the rails as it devolves into another marriage crisis episode that is quickly resolved through a grand gesture. It was a decent premise with some good moments for the most part, but the conflict and resolution were rushed, contrived, and something we've seen too many times before.
** Rather than examine the larger and more problematic implications of Marge’s ruse. The show fell back on the wacky BreakUpMakeUpScenario Marge is a tourist. Inadvertent at first, sure, but immediately all-in on taking everything she needs from her new friends’ identities to shore up her own. So when Homer spurred on by Moe’s meddling crashes Marge’s next party and outs her as a woman, those lowered expectations lead us to think that the necessary rapprochement with simply be between the cis, hetero husband and wife, with the colorful, “fabulous” drag plotline being discarded as no longer necessary. But that’s not what happens. When the partygoers file out grumbling following Homer’s revelation, it’s not due to some stereotypical “Ew, straights” disgruntlement, but a genuine anger that a cis woman has been masquerading as a member of their community to take advantage of them, and their identity. They accuse Marge of “appropriating everything,” and they’re right. As much as Marge’s gripe with Homer for undermining her success and newfound confidence is legitimate, so is, that of the people she’s used to get that success and confidence.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Throughout this episode Marge comes across as an outright {{Jerkass}} besides kicking Homer from helping her for an incredibly petty reason she lied to him about what she had been doing. As stated above Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions without consequence. Yet the one time the shoe is on the other foot it is treated as some [[ThisIsUnforgivable unforgivable sin]]. Homer has been nothing but supportive of Marge throughout the entire episode to the point that even when confronting her he realized he had no problem with what she is doing. All in all it comes across as Marge PlayingTheVictimCard to make Homer her [[TheScapegoat scapegoat]] as suddenly all of her lies both to him and the [[DragQueen Drag Queens]] are forgotten in favour of making Homer the DesignatedVillain.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: This major complaint of this episode is is, while a decent episode it came off the rails rails, as it devolves into another marriage crisis episode that is quickly resolved through a grand gesture. It was a decent premise with some good moments for the most part, but the conflict and resolution were rushed, contrived, and something we've seen too many times before.
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before, rather than examine the larger and more problematic implications of Marge’s ruse. The show fell back on the wacky BreakUpMakeUpScenario Marge is a tourist. Inadvertent at first, sure, but immediately all-in on taking everything she needs from her new friends’ identities to shore up her own. So when Homer spurred on by Moe’s meddling crashes Marge’s next party and outs her as a woman, those lowered expectations lead us to think that the necessary rapprochement with simply be between the cis, hetero husband and wife, with the colorful, “fabulous” drag plotline being discarded as no longer necessary. But that’s not what happens. When the partygoers file out grumbling following Homer’s revelation, it’s not due to some stereotypical “Ew, straights” disgruntlement, but a genuine anger that a cis woman has been masquerading as a member of their community to take advantage of them, and their identity. They accuse Marge of “appropriating everything,” and they’re right. As much as Marge’s gripe with Homer for undermining her success and newfound confidence is legitimate, so is, that of the people she’s used to get that success and confidence.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Throughout this episode episode, Marge comes across as an outright {{Jerkass}} besides kicking {{Jerkass}}. Besides forbidding Homer from helping her for an incredibly petty reason reason, she lied to him about what she had been doing. As stated above above, Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions without consequence. Yet the one time the shoe is on the other foot foot, it is treated as some [[ThisIsUnforgivable unforgivable sin]]. Homer has been nothing but supportive of Marge throughout the entire episode episode, to the point that even when confronting her he realized he had no problem with what she is doing. All in all all, it comes across as Marge PlayingTheVictimCard to make Homer her [[TheScapegoat scapegoat]] scapegoat]], as suddenly all of her lies both to him and the [[DragQueen Drag Queens]] are forgotten in favour of making Homer the DesignatedVillain.



--> '''ALL''': ''Oh - Oh, honey.'''

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--> '''ALL''': ''Oh - Oh, honey.'''''
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* InformedWrongness: Marge lies to Homer about pretending to be a DragQueen. When he finds out and confronts her inadvertently revealing her deception his actions are treated as a MoralEventHorizon. There are a lot of problems with this Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions not once was she ever depicted as in the wrong. Even when she put his life in danger in Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E14TheSevenBeerSnitch Homer was the shown to be at fault. Yet Homer is treated as selfish when he does the same to her. Even when outing her he realized that he wouldn’t have had a problem with it.

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* InformedWrongness: Marge lies to Homer about pretending to be a DragQueen. When he finds out and confronts her her, inadvertently revealing her deception deception, his actions are treated as a MoralEventHorizon. There are a lot of problems with this However, Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions occasions, and not once was she ever depicted as in the wrong. Even when she put his life in danger in Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E14TheSevenBeerSnitch Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E14TheSevenBeerSnitch, Homer was the one shown to be at fault. Yet Homer is treated as selfish when he does the same to her. Even when outing her her, he realized that he wouldn’t have had a problem with it.
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--> '''Marge''': ''And what hurts the most is that I can't imagine there's anything he can say or do''

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--> '''Marge''': ''And what hurts the most is that I can't imagine there's anything he can say or do''do to make me come back.''

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: This major complaint of this episode is while a decent episode it came off the rails as it devolves into another marriage crisis episode that is quickly resolved through a grand gesture. It was a decent premise with some good moments for the most part, but the conflict and resolution were rushed, contrived, and something we've seen too many times before.
** Rather than examine the larger and more problematic implications of Marge’s ruse. The show fell back on the wacky BreakUpMakeUpScenario Marge is a tourist. Inadvertent at first, sure, but immediately all-in on taking everything she needs from her new friends’ identities to shore up her own. So when Homer spurred on by Moe’s meddling crashes Marge’s next party and outs her as a woman, those lowered expectations lead us to think that the necessary rapprochement with simply be between the cis, hetero husband and wife, with the colorful, “fabulous” drag plotline being discarded as no longer necessary. But that’s not what happens. When the partygoers file out grumbling following Homer’s revelation, it’s not due to some stereotypical “Ew, straights” disgruntlement, but a genuine anger that a cis woman has been masquerading as a member of their community to take advantage of them, and their identity. They accuse Marge of “appropriating everything,” and they’re right. As much as Marge’s gripe with Homer for undermining her success and newfound confidence is legitimate, so is, that of the people she’s used to get that success and confidence.



--> '''Marge''': ''And what hurts the most is that I can't imagine there's anything he can say or do''
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: This major complaint of this episode is while a decent episode it came off the rails as it devolves into another marriage crisis episode that is quickly resolved through a grand gesture. It was a decent premise with some good moments for the most part, but the conflict and resolution were rushed, contrived, and something we've seen too many times before.
** Rather than examine the larger and more problematic implications of Marge’s ruse. The show fell back on the wacky BreakUpMakeUpScenario Marge is a tourist. Inadvertent at first, sure, but immediately all-in on taking everything she needs from her new friends’ identities to shore up her own. So when Homer spurred on by Moe’s meddling crashes Marge’s next party and outs her as a woman, those lowered expectations lead us to think that the necessary rapprochement with simply be between the cis, hetero husband and wife, with the colorful, “fabulous” drag plotline being discarded as no longer necessary. But that’s not what happens. When the partygoers file out grumbling following Homer’s revelation, it’s not due to some stereotypical “Ew, straights” disgruntlement, but a genuine anger that a cis woman has been masquerading as a member of their community to take advantage of them, and their identity. They accuse Marge of “appropriating everything,” and they’re right. As much as Marge’s gripe with Homer for undermining her success and newfound confidence is legitimate, so is, that of the people she’s used to get that success and confidence.

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--> '''Marge''': ''And what hurts the most is that I can't imagine there's anything he can say or do''
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: This major complaint of this episode is while a decent episode it came off the rails as it devolves into another marriage crisis episode that is quickly resolved through a grand gesture. It was a decent premise with some good moments for the most part, but the conflict and resolution were rushed, contrived, and something we've seen too many times before.
** Rather than examine the larger and more problematic implications of Marge’s ruse. The show fell back on the wacky BreakUpMakeUpScenario Marge is a tourist. Inadvertent at first, sure, but immediately all-in on taking everything she needs from her new friends’ identities to shore up her own. So when Homer spurred on by Moe’s meddling crashes Marge’s next party and outs her as a woman, those lowered expectations lead us to think that the necessary rapprochement with simply be between the cis, hetero husband and wife, with the colorful, “fabulous” drag plotline being discarded as no longer necessary. But that’s not what happens. When the partygoers file out grumbling following Homer’s revelation, it’s not due to some stereotypical “Ew, straights” disgruntlement, but a genuine anger that a cis woman has been masquerading as a member of their community to take advantage of them, and their identity. They accuse Marge of “appropriating everything,” and they’re right. As much as Marge’s gripe with Homer for undermining her success and newfound confidence is legitimate, so is, that of the people she’s used to get that success and confidence.
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Not Broken Base just complaining. Also, the "They Wasted A Perfectly Good Plot" section sums things up much better.


* BrokenBase: This episode is once again another "marriage problem" episode where Marge once again looks like a Jerkass when the writers try to make Homer the bad guy. This formula is so cliche.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Although even Homer himself decides halfway through calling her out that he was wrong, Marge was still lying to her customers and appropriating their culture to get them to buy things.
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* BrokenBase: This episode is once again another "marriage problem" episode where Marge once again looks like a Jerkass when the writers try to make Homer the bad guy. This formula is so cliche.
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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: If Marge had just told Homer what she was doing none of the events at the end of the episode would have happened. Homer himself realized he didn’t really have a problem with it as he was outing her.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Throughout this episode Marge comes across as an outright {{Jerkass}} besides kicking Homer from helping her for an incredibly petty reason she lied to him about what she had been doing. As stated above Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions without consequence. Yet the one time the shoe is on the other foot it is treated as some [[ThisIsUnforgivable unforgivable sin]]. Homer has been nothing but supportive of Marge throughout the entire episode to the point that even when confronting her he realized he had no problem with what she is doing. All in all it comes across as Marge PlayingTheVictimCard to make Homer her [[ TheScapegoat scapegoat]] as suddenly all of her lies both to him and the [[DragQueen Drag Queens]] are forgotten in favour of making Homer the DesignatedVillain.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Throughout this episode Marge comes across as an outright {{Jerkass}} besides kicking Homer from helping her for an incredibly petty reason she lied to him about what she had been doing. As stated above Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions without consequence. Yet the one time the shoe is on the other foot it is treated as some [[ThisIsUnforgivable unforgivable sin]]. Homer has been nothing but supportive of Marge throughout the entire episode to the point that even when confronting her he realized he had no problem with what she is doing. All in all it comes across as Marge PlayingTheVictimCard to make Homer her [[ TheScapegoat [[TheScapegoat scapegoat]] as suddenly all of her lies both to him and the [[DragQueen Drag Queens]] are forgotten in favour of making Homer the DesignatedVillain.
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* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: If Marge had just told Homer what she was doing none of the events at the end of the episode would have happened. Homer himself realized he didn’t really have a problem with it as he was outing her.
* InformedWrongness: Marge lies to Homer about pretending to be a DragQueen. When he finds out and confronts her inadvertently revealing her deception his actions are treated as a MoralEventHorizon. There are a lot of problems with this Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions not once was she ever depicted as in the wrong. Even when she put his life in danger in Recap/TheSimpsonsS16E14TheSevenBeerSnitch Homer was the shown to be at fault. Yet Homer is treated as selfish when he does the same to her. Even when outing her he realized that he wouldn’t have had a problem with it.



** Or to see Marge all dolled up.

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** Or to see Marge all dolled up.up.
* TakeThatScrappy: Marge telling Helen off.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Throughout this episode Marge comes across as an outright {{Jerkass}} besides kicking Homer from helping her for an incredibly petty reason she lied to him about what she had been doing. As stated above Marge has done this to Homer on numerous occasions without consequence. Yet the one time the shoe is on the other foot it is treated as some [[ThisIsUnforgivable unforgivable sin]]. Homer has been nothing but supportive of Marge throughout the entire episode to the point that even when confronting her he realized he had no problem with what she is doing. All in all it comes across as Marge PlayingTheVictimCard to make Homer her [[ TheScapegoat scapegoat]] as suddenly all of her lies both to him and the [[DragQueen Drag Queens]] are forgotten in favour of making Homer the DesignatedVillain.
--> '''Marge''': ''My husband and I have had more than the usual number of scrapes, but we've always gotten back to our love. But this time, you all made me feel understood and supported, and therefore made me realize how selfish Homer is.''
--> '''ALL''': ''Oh - Oh, honey.'''
--> '''Marge''': ''And what hurts the most is that I can't imagine there's anything he can say or do''
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: This major complaint of this episode is while a decent episode it came off the rails as it devolves into another marriage crisis episode that is quickly resolved through a grand gesture. It was a decent premise with some good moments for the most part, but the conflict and resolution were rushed, contrived, and something we've seen too many times before.
** Rather than examine the larger and more problematic implications of Marge’s ruse. The show fell back on the wacky BreakUpMakeUpScenario Marge is a tourist. Inadvertent at first, sure, but immediately all-in on taking everything she needs from her new friends’ identities to shore up her own. So when Homer spurred on by Moe’s meddling crashes Marge’s next party and outs her as a woman, those lowered expectations lead us to think that the necessary rapprochement with simply be between the cis, hetero husband and wife, with the colorful, “fabulous” drag plotline being discarded as no longer necessary. But that’s not what happens. When the partygoers file out grumbling following Homer’s revelation, it’s not due to some stereotypical “Ew, straights” disgruntlement, but a genuine anger that a cis woman has been masquerading as a member of their community to take advantage of them, and their identity. They accuse Marge of “appropriating everything,” and they’re right. As much as Marge’s gripe with Homer for undermining her success and newfound confidence is legitimate, so is, that of the people she’s used to get that success and confidence.
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* JustHereForGodzilla: Some only watched this episode for [[SignatureScene the drag performance]]. Particularly to see [[AttractiveBentGender Smithers and Sideshow Mel]] in drag.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: Some only watched this episode for [[SignatureScene the drag performance]]. Particularly to see [[AttractiveBentGender Smithers and Sideshow Mel]] in drag.drag.
** Or to see Marge all dolled up.
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JustHereForGodzilla: Some only watched this episode for [[SignatureScene the drag performance]]. Particularly to see [[AttractiveBentGender Smithers and Sideshow Mel]] in drag.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: Some only watched this episode for [[SignatureScene the drag performance]]. Particularly to see [[AttractiveBentGender Smithers and Sideshow Mel]] in drag.
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JustHereForGodzilla: Some only watched this episode for the drag performance. Particularly to see Smithers and Sideshow Mel in drag.

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JustHereForGodzilla: Some only watched this episode for [[SignatureScene the drag performance. performance]]. Particularly to see [[AttractiveBentGender Smithers and Sideshow Mel Mel]] in drag.
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JustHereForGodzilla: Some only watched this episode for the drag performance. Particularly to see Smithers and Sideshow Mel in drag.

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