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** Dimitri's uncle Rufus is portrayed as a flawed but well-meaning individual. However, Dimitri reveals to Byleth in a support conversation in ''Three Houses'' that he and his uncle didn't get along. ''Three Hopes'' would reveal that [[spoiler:Rufus was complicit in the Tragedy of Duscur, and had tried to get Dimitri killed on more than one occasion, forcing Dimitri to execute his uncle for high treason when he attempts to stage another rebellion in Fhirdiad]].
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** Dimitri's uncle Rufus is portrayed as a flawed but well-meaning individual. However, Dimitri reveals to Byleth in a support conversation in ''Three Houses'' that he and his uncle didn't get along.along, and Cornelia (who, admittedly, is lying) claims that the bad blood between Rufus and Dimitri was a motive for Dimitri to murder his uncle. ''Three Hopes'' would reveal that [[spoiler:Rufus was complicit in the Tragedy of Duscur, and had tried to get Dimitri killed on more than one occasion, forcing Dimitri to execute his uncle for high treason when he attempts to stage another rebellion in Fhirdiad]].
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* InformedWrongness: Lonato's assertion that Rhea threatened the Golden Deer by showing them what happens to those who "[defy] her obscene whims" is treated as the ravings of a grief-stricken man looking for death. Rhea, in both ''Three Houses'' and ''SK'', confirms to the students before and after the mission that this is exactly what she wanted to happen.
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* InformedWrongness: Lonato's assertion that Rhea threatened the Golden Deer by showing them what happens to those who "[defy] her obscene whims" is treated as the ravings of a grief-stricken man looking for death. death, with Ashe, the only one at all sympathetic to him, dismissing the assertion as "crazy." Rhea, in both ''Three Houses'' and ''SK'', confirms to the students before and after the mission that this is exactly what she wanted to happen.happen; in the former, she appears to disapprove of the students' hesitation to fight the militia and says, "I pray the students learned a valuable lesson about the fate that awaits all who are foolish enough to point their blades towards the heavens."
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Despite having information on the Agarthans that nobody else does, Atra keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them (which gets called-out by Glenn). Though the story implies a case of paranoia that anyone she met could be an Agarthan in disguise is the reason she avoids sharing her knowledge, the fact that she knew where Shambhala was would have been a huge boon for the heroes to end the war faster, as opposed to letting it continue until the Adrestian Empire's fall. Additionally, she knows the truth behind the Tragedy of Duscur and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but she keeps both to herself to solve them on her own. Given the enormity of what's at stake (she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide), she instead comes off as a paranoiac at best and cowardly at worst, which gets particularly jarring when Atra claims that ''she'' chose to turn on Thales and had learned to question what she was taught to ''Edelgard'', who is just as stuck with Thales's lies as Atra once was.]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Atra. [[spoiler:Despite having information on the Agarthans that nobody else does, Atra keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them (which gets called-out by Glenn). Though the story implies a case of paranoia that anyone she met could be an Agarthan in disguise is the reason she avoids sharing her knowledge, the fact that she knew where Shambhala was would have been a huge boon for the heroes to end the war faster, as opposed to letting it continue until the Adrestian Empire's fall. Additionally, she knows the truth behind the Tragedy of Duscur and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but she keeps both to herself to solve them on her own. Given the enormity of what's at stake (she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide), she instead comes off as a paranoiac at best and cowardly at worst, which gets particularly jarring when Atra claims that ''she'' chose to turn on Thales and had learned to question what she was taught to ''Edelgard'', who is just as stuck with Thales's lies as Atra once was.]]
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Solon, despite being a powerful sorcerer and the mastermind of the Remire bloodbath, is defeated in mere seconds after Byleth kills Kronya, one of his underlings.
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From Harsher in Hindsight: Removed a line that states that Edelgard is implied to have killed her mother in Three Hopes while brainwashed by Thales (Edelgard states that she hadn't seen her mother in person since Anselma/Patricia was exiled from the Empire, and Thales taunts Dimitri in the final battle in Azure Gleam by claiming that he and/or Cornelia killed Anselma/Patricia after the Tragedy of Duscur). Also rewrote "They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character" and "Unintentionally Unsympathetic" to remove bias and/or self-promotion
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** [[spoiler:When the war is nearing its end, Thales has Edelgard forcibly turned into the Hegemon Husk]]. In the Azure Gleam route of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', [[spoiler:that's precisely what Thales does to Edelgard, but instead of doing so as [[YouHaveFailedMe punishment for her failures]], he does it out of revenge for thwarting his coup. Worse, instead of dying like she does in this fic, when she turns back to normal, she's emotionally regressed to her 12 year old self]]. Said game also strongly implies that [[spoiler:Edelgard killed her mother while under Thales' unwitting control]], an incident she doesn't recall but which is even more tragic than [[spoiler:Anselma's death]] as this story explained it.
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** [[spoiler:When the war is nearing its end, Thales has Edelgard forcibly turned into the Hegemon Husk]]. In the Azure Gleam route of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', [[spoiler:that's precisely what Thales does to Edelgard, but instead of doing so as [[YouHaveFailedMe punishment for her failures]], he does it out of revenge for thwarting his coup. Worse, instead of dying like she does in this fic, when she turns back to normal, she's emotionally regressed to her 12 year old self]]. Said game also strongly implies that [[spoiler:Edelgard killed her mother while under Thales' unwitting control]], an incident she doesn't recall but which is even more tragic than [[spoiler:Anselma's death]] as this story explained it.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[spoiler:Though the author's attempt to deconstruct Edelgard's archetype had been praised by a good portion of the readers, there are some who lament that the AdaptationalVillainy Edelgard received ended up making her more one-dimensional than her canonical counterpart had been. It's for this reason that the author eventually wrote a side story meant to give Edelgard the CharacterDevelopment she should have had in "The Flame Empress and the Liberation of Thracia".]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Atra , though mosty well-liked, is seen as one to other readers. [[spoiler:Despite having information on the Agarthans that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them (which gets called-out by Glenn). Though the story implies a case of paranoia that anyone she met could be an Agarthan in disguise is the reason she avoids sharing her knowledge, the fact that she knew where Shamballa was would have been a huge boon for the heroes to end the war faster, as opposed to letting it continue until the Adrestian Empire's fall. Additionally, she knows the truth behind the Tragedy of Duscur and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but she keeps both to herself to solve them on her own. Given the enormity of what's at stake (she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide), she instead comes off as a paranoiac at best and cowardly at worst, which gets particularly jarring when Atra claims that ''she'' chose to turn on Thales and had learned to question what she was taught to ''Edelgard'', who is just as stuck with Thales's lies as Atra once was.]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Atra , though mosty well-liked, is seen as one to other readers. [[spoiler:Despite having information on the Agarthans that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them (which gets called-out by Glenn). Though the story implies a case of paranoia that anyone she met could be an Agarthan in disguise is the reason she avoids sharing her knowledge, the fact that she knew where Shamballa was would have been a huge boon for the heroes to end the war faster, as opposed to letting it continue until the Adrestian Empire's fall. Additionally, she knows the truth behind the Tragedy of Duscur and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but she keeps both to herself to solve them on her own. Given the enormity of what's at stake (she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide), she instead comes off as a paranoiac at best and cowardly at worst, which gets particularly jarring when Atra claims that ''she'' chose to turn on Thales and had learned to question what she was taught to ''Edelgard'', who is just as stuck with Thales's lies as Atra once was.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[spoiler:Though the author's attempt to deconstruct Edelgard's archetype had been praised by a good portion TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** A major point ofthe readers, there are some who lament that the AdaptationalVillainy contention is how little Edelgard received ended up making her more one-dimensional than her canonical counterpart had been. It's for this reason that the author eventually wrote a side story meant to give Edelgard the CharacterDevelopment she should have had in "The Flame Empress is used despite being an integral part of Dimitri's backstory and the Liberation larger plot of Thracia".]]
the war between the Adrestian Empire and the Church of Seiros. Rather than spearheading the war effort as she does in ''Three Houses'', she is reduced to a BigBadWannabe and lackey of "those who slither in the dark" [[spoiler:whose constant failures result in a steady string of defeats for the Empire and an UndignifiedDeath for Edelgard]].
** Kronya, despite being revealed as the sister of OriginalCharacter Atra, has very little presence as an antagonist. Almost all aspects of her characterization and backstory are told from Atra's perspective, with Kronya's only direct contributions to the plot being her [[KilledOffscreen offscreen murder]] of Jeralt and death at Byleth's hands just two chapters later.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:Atra , though mosty well-liked, is seen as one to other readers. [[spoiler:Despite having information on the Agarthans that nobody else does, she Atra keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them (which gets called-out by Glenn). Though the story implies a case of paranoia that anyone she met could be an Agarthan in disguise is the reason she avoids sharing her knowledge, the fact that she knew where Shamballa Shambhala was would have been a huge boon for the heroes to end the war faster, as opposed to letting it continue until the Adrestian Empire's fall. Additionally, she knows the truth behind the Tragedy of Duscur and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but she keeps both to herself to solve them on her own. Given the enormity of what's at stake (she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide), she instead comes off as a paranoiac at best and cowardly at worst, which gets particularly jarring when Atra claims that ''she'' chose to turn on Thales and had learned to question what she was taught to ''Edelgard'', who is just as stuck with Thales's lies as Atra once was.]]
** A major point of
** Kronya, despite being revealed as the sister of OriginalCharacter Atra, has very little presence as an antagonist. Almost all aspects of her characterization and backstory are told from Atra's perspective, with Kronya's only direct contributions to the plot being her [[KilledOffscreen offscreen murder]] of Jeralt and death at Byleth's hands just two chapters later.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
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** Among the couples dancing at the Garreg Mach Ball, one pairing that gets mentioned is Edelgard and [[spoiler:(the fake)]] Monica. As ''Three Hopes'' would later show, [[spoiler:the real]] Monica really ''does'' become that devoted to Edelgard after Edelgard saves her life from "those who slither in the dark".
** While it's only implied in dialogue from Rhea in ''Three Houses'', the idea of Sothis "taking over" Byleth's body becomes a major plot point early on. ''Three Hopes'' confirms that it is possible for Sothis to control Byleth (but not do a full-on BodySwap), showcased during a battle with Shez and Arval, and it takes a great deal of resistance from Byleth to shake off Sothis' influence. Byleth only fully gives up control of their body and soul to Sothis if [[spoiler:Shez kills Jeralt in Part II]].
** While it's only implied in dialogue from Rhea in ''Three Houses'', the idea of Sothis "taking over" Byleth's body becomes a major plot point early on. ''Three Hopes'' confirms that it is possible for Sothis to control Byleth (but not do a full-on BodySwap), showcased during a battle with Shez and Arval, and it takes a great deal of resistance from Byleth to shake off Sothis' influence. Byleth only fully gives up control of their body and soul to Sothis if [[spoiler:Shez kills Jeralt in Part II]].
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** Edelgard being given a huge dose of AdaptationalVillainy to near over-the-top levels can make it hard to take the context of the plot seriously. In Chapter 80, she goes through an excessive HumiliationConga such that [[Series/GameOfThrones Stannis]] looks lucky in comparison.
** In a lighter, non-Edelgard example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter. Different languages being used as placeholder languages, such as Japanese for Almyran or German for Agarthan, also makes it hard to take some parts seriously.
** In a lighter, non-Edelgard example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter. Different languages being used as placeholder languages, such as Japanese for Almyran or German for Agarthan, also makes it hard to take some parts seriously.
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** Edelgard being given a huge dose of AdaptationalVillainy The decision to near over-the-top levels can make it hard to take the context of the plot seriously. In Chapter 80, she goes through an excessive HumiliationConga such that [[Series/GameOfThrones Stannis]] looks lucky in comparison.
** In a lighter, non-Edelgard example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter. Differentuse real-world languages being used as placeholder languages, such as Japanese for to depict Almyran or German and Agarthan speech is jarring because the languages chosen (GratuitousJapanese for Agarthan, also makes it hard the former and GratuitousGerman for the latter) don't fit either faction's culture or aesthetics.
** Following her FaceHeelTurn, Edelgard's turn totake some parts seriously.villainy is meant to set up a massive downfall, but both of these aspects fall flat due to how extreme they are [[spoiler:(going from being an all-around SmugSnake with a HairTriggerTemper to being imprisoned, beaten to a pulp, and relentlessly mocked by the other villains)]].
** In a lighter, non-Edelgard example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter. Different
** Following her FaceHeelTurn, Edelgard's turn to
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* InformedWrongness: There are two centered around Lonato:
** Lonato's assertion that Rhea threatened the Golden Deer by showing them what happens to those who "[defy] her obscene whims" is treated as the ravings of a grief-stricken man looking for death. Rhea, in both ''Three Houses'' and ''SK'', confirms to the students before and after the mission that this is exactly what she wanted to happen.
** It also paints Lonato as lying to himself about the chances of his
** His assertion that Rhea, ''"wanted to threaten ''[the class sent to help deal with his revolution]'' with the consequences of defying her obscene whims,"'' is treated as the ravings of a grief-stricken man looking for death. Rhea, in ''Houses'', confirms once before and again after the mission that she ''very much'' hoped the students who went to Magdred Way would learn what happens to people who dare to fight the church.
** He's treated as lying to himself that his revolution against the Central Church has any hope of success and that he is is, unknown even to himself, just trying to invoke SuicideByCop. In ''Houses'', it's heavily implied that he knew his revolution was doomed from the start and only began it to plant the false assassination plans in support of the Western Church's impending raid on the Holy Mausoleum.
* KarmicOverkill: Edelgard's treatment at the hands of the Agarthans in Chapter 80 earned this reaction from some readers. Even some fans who didn't care for Edelgard deemed it overly cruel. The author admitted in replies that even they were uncomfortable while writing the scene in question.
** Lonato's assertion that Rhea threatened the Golden Deer by showing them what happens to those who "[defy] her obscene whims" is treated as the ravings of a grief-stricken man looking for death. Rhea, in both ''Three Houses'' and ''SK'', confirms to the students before and after the mission that this is exactly what she wanted to happen.
** It also paints Lonato as lying to himself about the chances of his
** His assertion that Rhea, ''"wanted to threaten ''[the class sent to help deal with his revolution]'' with the consequences of defying her obscene whims,"'' is treated as the ravings of a grief-stricken man looking for death. Rhea, in ''Houses'', confirms once before and again after the mission that she ''very much'' hoped the students who went to Magdred Way would learn what happens to people who dare to fight the church.
** He's treated as lying to himself that his revolution against the Central Church has any hope of success and that he is is, unknown even to himself, just trying to invoke SuicideByCop. In ''Houses'', it's heavily implied that he knew his revolution was doomed from the start and only began it to plant the false assassination plans in support of the Western Church's impending raid on the Holy Mausoleum.
* KarmicOverkill: Edelgard's treatment at the hands of the Agarthans in Chapter 80 earned this reaction from some readers. Even some fans who didn't care for Edelgard deemed it overly cruel. The author admitted in replies that even they were uncomfortable while writing the scene in question.
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* InformedWrongness: There are two centered around Lonato:
**Lonato's assertion that Rhea threatened the Golden Deer by showing them what happens to those who "[defy] her obscene whims" is treated as the ravings of a grief-stricken man looking for death. Rhea, in both ''Three Houses'' and ''SK'', confirms to the students before and after the mission that this is exactly what she wanted to happen.
** It also paints Lonato as lying to himself about the chances of his
** His assertion that Rhea, ''"wanted to threaten ''[the class sent to help deal with his revolution]'' with the consequences of defying her obscene whims,"'' is treated as the ravings of a grief-stricken man looking for death. Rhea, in ''Houses'', confirms once before and again after the mission that she ''very much'' hoped the students who went to Magdred Way would learn what happens to people who dare to fight the church.
** He's treated as lying to himself that his revolution against the Central Church has any hope of success and that he is is, unknown even to himself, just trying to invoke SuicideByCop. In ''Houses'', it's heavily implied that he knew his revolution was doomed from the start and only began it to plant the false assassination plans in support of the Western Church's impending raid on the Holy Mausoleum.
* KarmicOverkill: Edelgard's general treatment at the hands of by the Agarthans in Chapter 80 earned this reaction from some readers. Even some 80, even among other fans of the story who didn't care for Edelgard deemed it overly cruel.hated Edelgard, came off as excessive. The author admitted in replies that even they were uncomfortable while writing the scene in question.
**
** His assertion that Rhea, ''"wanted to threaten ''[the class sent to help deal with his revolution]'' with the consequences of defying her obscene whims,"'' is treated as the ravings of a grief-stricken man looking for death. Rhea, in ''Houses'', confirms once before and again after the mission that she ''very much'' hoped the students who went to Magdred Way would learn what happens to people who dare to fight the church.
** He's treated as lying to himself that his revolution against the Central Church has any hope of success and that he is is, unknown even to himself, just trying to invoke SuicideByCop. In ''Houses'', it's heavily implied that he knew his revolution was doomed from the start and only began it to plant the false assassination plans in support of the Western Church's impending raid on the Holy Mausoleum.
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** [[spoiler:Edelgard]] has a number of moments that might qualify; including using the Demonic Beasts despite knowing their origin and starting a massive war out of the belief that [[spoiler:she]] alone can save Fódlan. Claude personally believes that [[spoiler:Edelgard]] crossed the line [[spoiler:when she unleashed [[GeneralRipper Maximus]] [[AbusiveParents Varley]] on the city of Hrym because they were fed up with her lies and refusing to cooperate with her any further]].
** If [[HateSink Maximus Varley]] didn't cross it with his hideous [[AbusiveParents abuse of his daughter Bernadetta]] or [[spoiler:his near murder of Yuri ''which he forced her to witness'']], he ''absolutely'' crosses it [[spoiler:when he leads part of the army to massacre Adrestian civilians who were rioting in protest of the war]].
** [[{{Jerkass}} Lord Herving]] crosses this by tricking his own common folk into traveling to Enbarr to supposedly cure Emperor Ionius of his chronic illness, when in actuality he was offering them to [[MadDoctor the Agarthans]] to be turned into demonic beasts, then by attempting to [[WouldHurtAChild order the death of a flower girl]] who called him out and demanded to know what became of her brothers.
** If [[HateSink Maximus Varley]] didn't cross it with his hideous [[AbusiveParents abuse of his daughter Bernadetta]] or [[spoiler:his near murder of Yuri ''which he forced her to witness'']], he ''absolutely'' crosses it [[spoiler:when he leads part of the army to massacre Adrestian civilians who were rioting in protest of the war]].
** [[{{Jerkass}} Lord Herving]] crosses this by tricking his own common folk into traveling to Enbarr to supposedly cure Emperor Ionius of his chronic illness, when in actuality he was offering them to [[MadDoctor the Agarthans]] to be turned into demonic beasts, then by attempting to [[WouldHurtAChild order the death of a flower girl]] who called him out and demanded to know what became of her brothers.
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** [[spoiler:Edelgard]] has a number of moments that might qualify; including using the Demonic Beasts despite knowing their origin and starting a massive war out of the belief that [[spoiler:she]] alone can save Fódlan. Claude personally believes that [[spoiler:Edelgard]] crossed the line [[spoiler:when she unleashed [[GeneralRipper Maximus]] [[AbusiveParents Varley]] on the city of Hrym because they were fed up with her lies and refusing to cooperate with her any further]].
** If [[HateSink Maximus Varley]] didn't cross it withCount Hevring, Linhardt's father, lured countless villagers from his hideous [[AbusiveParents abuse of his daughter Bernadetta]] or [[spoiler:his near murder of Yuri ''which he forced her to witness'']], he ''absolutely'' crosses it [[spoiler:when he leads part of the army to massacre Adrestian civilians who were rioting in protest of the war]].
** [[{{Jerkass}} Lord Herving]] crosses this by tricking his own common folk into travelingterritory to Enbarr under the guise of requesting test subjects to supposedly assist with a cure for the late Emperor Ionius of his IX's chronic illness, when in actuality he was offering them to [[MadDoctor illness. No such cure ever took place, and many of the Agarthans]] unfortunate subjects became {{Human Sacrifice}}s for the Agarthans and added to be turned into demonic beasts, then by the Imperial army's legion of Demonic Beasts, with Hevring attempting to [[WouldHurtAChild order violently silence one of the death of a flower girl]] whistleblowers (a young girl who called lost her brothers to Hevring's experiments).
** Count Varley, Bernadetta's father, who had already gained his fair share of hate from Bernadetta for being an all-around AbusiveParent to her (and ''[[ForcedToWatch forcing her to watch]]'' himout beat her commoner friend Yuri to near-death) goes well beyond his usual standard of cruelty when he leads an assault on the Imperial city of Hrym to murder groups of anti-war protestors.
** And there's [[spoiler:Edelgard herself, who, aside from keeping both of the aforementioned counts under her employ anddemanded to know what became enabling their corruption in spite of their betrayal of her brothers.father, is heavily implied to have used the "javelins of light" to destroy Fort Merceus after it is captured by the heroes, killing numerous Imperial citizens living there and prompting the survivors to denounce her as a madwoman.]]
** If [[HateSink Maximus Varley]] didn't cross it with
** [[{{Jerkass}} Lord Herving]] crosses this by tricking his own common folk into traveling
** Count Varley, Bernadetta's father, who had already gained his fair share of hate from Bernadetta for being an all-around AbusiveParent to her (and ''[[ForcedToWatch forcing her to watch]]'' him
** And there's [[spoiler:Edelgard herself, who, aside from keeping both of the aforementioned counts under her employ and
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Cutting some of the Hilarious in Hindsight points (one for being something of a repeat, and two for fitting more under Outdated By Canon)
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* HarsherInHindsight: Some of ''SK''[='=]s plot points take on darker implications in light of the release of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes''.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Some of ''SK''[='=]s plot points take on darker implications in light of the release of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes''.''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'':
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** Dimitri's uncle Rufus is portrayed as a flawed but well-meaning individual. However, Dimitri reveals to Byleth in a support conversation in ''Three Houses'' that he and his uncle didn't get along. ''Three Hopes' would reveal that [[spoiler:Rufus was complicit in the Tragedy of Duscur, and had tried to get Dimitri killed on more than one occasion, forcing Dimitri to execute his uncle for high treason when he attempts to stage another rebellion in Fhirdiad]].
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** Dimitri's uncle Rufus is portrayed as a flawed but well-meaning individual. However, Dimitri reveals to Byleth in a support conversation in ''Three Houses'' that he and his uncle didn't get along. ''Three Hopes' Hopes'' would reveal that [[spoiler:Rufus was complicit in the Tragedy of Duscur, and had tried to get Dimitri killed on more than one occasion, forcing Dimitri to execute his uncle for high treason when he attempts to stage another rebellion in Fhirdiad]].
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** While Felix gives Count Varley a brutal verbal smackdown in ''SK'' Chapter 69, he is also among the Kingdom generals in ''Three Hopes'' who can give him a brutal ''physical'' smackdown as well.
** The core premise of ''SK'' is the team-up between Dimitri and Claude to defeat the Empire. This comes to pass during the Azure Gleam route of ''Three Hopes'' [[spoiler:during the final battle, as Claude is less-than-eager to fully assist Dimitri due to the Kingdom's explicit support of the Church. On the other two routes (Scarlet Blaze and Golden Wildfire), Claude instead forms an alliance with ''Edelgard'', and should Shez keep Jeralt alive, that partnership sticks to the very end of the game.]]
** Additionally, the fic's premise has Claude and the Golden Deer picked by this fic's version of Byleth and teaming up with Dimitri to fight Edelgard and the Slithers. Not only does Scarlet Blaze have Byleth join up with Claude and the Alliance against [[spoiler: Edelgard and Shez, but if certain conditions are fulfilled, then Claude and Byleth will fight Edelgard and the Empire while also backstabbing the Kingdom and Dimitri, and while it's optional for Claude to die, Byleth meets a definite end at the hands of Shez. Meaning it's entirely canonically possible for Edelgard and the Black Eagles to fight Dimitri, Claude and Byleth on the same field, and come out the victor. The entire scenario feels like a derailed version of this fic's premise especially with the marketing and game emphasizing Female Byleth and Male Shez.]]
** Arguably, even the author's take on Edelgard herself turned out this way, as ''Three Hopes'' heavily hints she would have jumped at the chance to ditch her Agarthan 'allies' at the first opportunity rather than use them for her own goals.
** One of the most prominent scenes in this fic is Odesse brutally torturing Edelgard. Meanwhile in Scarlet Blaze, Edelgard can actually fight Odesse in one of the Slither bases and on certain missions.
** The core premise of ''SK'' is the team-up between Dimitri and Claude to defeat the Empire. This comes to pass during the Azure Gleam route of ''Three Hopes'' [[spoiler:during the final battle, as Claude is less-than-eager to fully assist Dimitri due to the Kingdom's explicit support of the Church. On the other two routes (Scarlet Blaze and Golden Wildfire), Claude instead forms an alliance with ''Edelgard'', and should Shez keep Jeralt alive, that partnership sticks to the very end of the game.]]
** Additionally, the fic's premise has Claude and the Golden Deer picked by this fic's version of Byleth and teaming up with Dimitri to fight Edelgard and the Slithers. Not only does Scarlet Blaze have Byleth join up with Claude and the Alliance against [[spoiler: Edelgard and Shez, but if certain conditions are fulfilled, then Claude and Byleth will fight Edelgard and the Empire while also backstabbing the Kingdom and Dimitri, and while it's optional for Claude to die, Byleth meets a definite end at the hands of Shez. Meaning it's entirely canonically possible for Edelgard and the Black Eagles to fight Dimitri, Claude and Byleth on the same field, and come out the victor. The entire scenario feels like a derailed version of this fic's premise especially with the marketing and game emphasizing Female Byleth and Male Shez.]]
** Arguably, even the author's take on Edelgard herself turned out this way, as ''Three Hopes'' heavily hints she would have jumped at the chance to ditch her Agarthan 'allies' at the first opportunity rather than use them for her own goals.
** One of the most prominent scenes in this fic is Odesse brutally torturing Edelgard. Meanwhile in Scarlet Blaze, Edelgard can actually fight Odesse in one of the Slither bases and on certain missions.
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** While Felix gives Count Varley a brutal verbal smackdown in ''SK'' Chapter 69, he is also among the Kingdom generals in ''Three Hopes'' who can give him a brutal ''physical'' smackdown as well.
well at the end of the Azure Gleam route.
** The core premise of ''SK'' is the team-up between Dimitri and Claude to defeat the Empire. This comes to pass during the Azure Gleam route of ''Three Hopes'' [[spoiler:during the final battle,as with Thales and "those who slither in the dark" having taken over the Empire and hollowed it out from the inside to spite Edelgard. The main difference is that Dimitri and Claude's relationship goes deeper than a simple alliance in ''SK'', while they're only conveniently aligned against a common enemy in ''Three Hopes'' since Claude is less-than-eager to fully assist Dimitri due to the Kingdom's explicit support of the Church. On the other two routes (Scarlet Blaze and Golden Wildfire), Claude instead forms an alliance with ''Edelgard'', and should Shez keep Jeralt alive, that partnership sticks to the very end of the game.]]
** Additionally, the fic's premise has Claude and the Golden Deer picked by this fic's version of Byleth and teaming up with Dimitri to fight Edelgard and the Slithers. Not only does Scarlet Blaze have Byleth join up with Claude and the Alliance against [[spoiler: Edelgard and Shez, but if certain conditions are fulfilled, then Claude and Byleth will fight Edelgard and the Empire while also backstabbing the Kingdom and Dimitri, and while it's optional for Claude to die, Byleth meets a definite end at the hands of Shez. Meaning it's entirely canonically possible for Edelgard and the Black Eagles to fight Dimitri, Claude and Byleth on the same field, and come out the victor. The entire scenario feels like a derailed version of this fic's premise especially with the marketing and game emphasizing Female Byleth and Male Shez.]]
** Arguably, even the author's take on Edelgard herself turned out this way, as ''Three Hopes'' heavily hints she would have jumped at the chance to ditch her Agarthan 'allies' at the first opportunity rather than use them for her own goals.
** One of the most prominent scenes in this fic is Odesse brutally torturing Edelgard. Meanwhile in Scarlet Blaze, Edelgard can actually fight Odesse in one of the Slither bases and on certain missions.]]
** The core premise of ''SK'' is the team-up between Dimitri and Claude to defeat the Empire. This comes to pass during the Azure Gleam route of ''Three Hopes'' [[spoiler:during the final battle,
** Additionally, the fic's premise has Claude and the Golden Deer picked by this fic's version of Byleth and teaming up with Dimitri to fight Edelgard and the Slithers. Not only does Scarlet Blaze have Byleth join up with Claude and the Alliance against [[spoiler: Edelgard and Shez, but if certain conditions are fulfilled, then Claude and Byleth will fight Edelgard and the Empire while also backstabbing the Kingdom and Dimitri, and while it's optional for Claude to die, Byleth meets a definite end at the hands of Shez. Meaning it's entirely canonically possible for Edelgard and the Black Eagles to fight Dimitri, Claude and Byleth on the same field, and come out the victor. The entire scenario feels like a derailed version of this fic's premise especially with the marketing and game emphasizing Female Byleth and Male Shez.]]
** Arguably, even the author's take on Edelgard herself turned out this way, as ''Three Hopes'' heavily hints she would have jumped at the chance to ditch her Agarthan 'allies' at the first opportunity rather than use them for her own goals.
** One of the most prominent scenes in this fic is Odesse brutally torturing Edelgard. Meanwhile in Scarlet Blaze, Edelgard can actually fight Odesse in one of the Slither bases and on certain missions.
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** Lonato's assertion that Rhea threatened the Golden Deer by showing them what happens to those who "[defy] her obscene whims" is treated as the ravings of a grief-stricken man looking for death. Rhea, in both ''Three Houses'' and ''SK'', confirms to the students before and after the mission that this is exactly what she wanted to happen.
** It also paints Lonato as lying to himself about the chances of his
** It also paints Lonato as lying to himself about the chances of his
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%%** [[TheAtoner Atra]] is surprisingly popular for being an OC, due in part to her being [[spoiler: [[TokenHeroicOrc a sympathetic Agarthan character]]]] and her role as a DefectorFromDecadence.
%%** [[spoiler: The Ten Elites/The Einherjar have met much fan approval, both with their defiant antics despite being reduced to VoodooZombies under a geas and their heavily implied [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone remorse]] for serving under Nemesis and gaining their Crests.]]
%%** [[spoiler:Indech]] is also well loved from his first appearance; for being a NiceGuy, a playful and affectionate BigBrotherMentor to the students [[spoiler:and his siblings Rhea and Seteth]] and for his emotional role in later revelations.
* HarsherInHindsight: A lot of the plot points in this story becomes one in light of the release of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes''.
** In this fanfic, [[spoiler:when the war is nearing its end, Thales has Edelgard forcibly turned into the Hegemon Husk]]. In the Azure Gleam route of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', [[spoiler:that's precisely what Thales does to Edelgard. Worse, instead of dying like she does in this fic, when she turns back to normal, she's emotionally regressed to her 12 year old self]]. Said game also strongly implies that [[spoiler:Edelgard killed her mother while under Thales' unwitting control]], an incident she doesn't recall but which is even more tragic than [[spoiler:Anselma's death]] as this story explained it.
** In this fanfic, Count Gloucester is the one who is responsible for the incident that killed Godfrey Von Riegan and Raphael's parents (which, at the time, all evidence pointed to). In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', however, [[spoiler:Count Gloucester wasn't even the one behind the incident, and was in fact in charge of the security of the route by hiring some mercenaries, but ''someone else'' among the Gloucester family -- implied to be an Agarthan mole -- set up the incident by bribing the mercenaries to threaten the merchants.]]
** In this fic, Dimitri's uncle is portrayed as a flawed but well meaning individual. ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'' would reveal that [[spoiler:he was complicit in the Tragedy of Duscur, and had tried to get Dimitri killed on more than one occasion. Even worse, Dimitri ends up ''killing'' his uncle in the Azure Gleam route of ''Three Hopes'']].
** This fic's Edelgard views Claude as a ruthless and manipulative schemer who only cares about his ambitions. While in the ''Three Houses'' canon this is obviously a delusion, he actually lives down to her expectations in ''Warriors: Three Hopes'' more in Golden Wildfire, which brings his ChronicBackstabbingDisorder and IDidWhatIHadToDo tendencies to the fore.
%%** [[TheAtoner Atra]] is surprisingly popular for being an OC, due in part to her being [[spoiler: [[TokenHeroicOrc a sympathetic Agarthan character]]]] and her role as a DefectorFromDecadence.
%%** [[spoiler: The Ten Elites/The Einherjar have met much fan approval, both with their defiant antics despite being reduced to VoodooZombies under a geas and their heavily implied [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone remorse]] for serving under Nemesis and gaining their Crests.]]
%%** [[spoiler:Indech]] is also well loved from his first appearance; for being a NiceGuy, a playful and affectionate BigBrotherMentor to the students [[spoiler:and his siblings Rhea and Seteth]] and for his emotional role in later revelations.
* HarsherInHindsight: A lot of the plot points in this story becomes one in light of the release of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes''.
** In this fanfic, [[spoiler:when the war is nearing its end, Thales has Edelgard forcibly turned into the Hegemon Husk]]. In the Azure Gleam route of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', [[spoiler:that's precisely what Thales does to Edelgard. Worse, instead of dying like she does in this fic, when she turns back to normal, she's emotionally regressed to her 12 year old self]]. Said game also strongly implies that [[spoiler:Edelgard killed her mother while under Thales' unwitting control]], an incident she doesn't recall but which is even more tragic than [[spoiler:Anselma's death]] as this story explained it.
** In this fanfic, Count Gloucester is the one who is responsible for the incident that killed Godfrey Von Riegan and Raphael's parents (which, at the time, all evidence pointed to). In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', however, [[spoiler:Count Gloucester wasn't even the one behind the incident, and was in fact in charge of the security of the route by hiring some mercenaries, but ''someone else'' among the Gloucester family -- implied to be an Agarthan mole -- set up the incident by bribing the mercenaries to threaten the merchants.]]
** In this fic, Dimitri's uncle is portrayed as a flawed but well meaning individual. ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'' would reveal that [[spoiler:he was complicit in the Tragedy of Duscur, and had tried to get Dimitri killed on more than one occasion. Even worse, Dimitri ends up ''killing'' his uncle in the Azure Gleam route of ''Three Hopes'']].
** This fic's Edelgard views Claude as a ruthless and manipulative schemer who only cares about his ambitions. While in the ''Three Houses'' canon this is obviously a delusion, he actually lives down to her expectations in ''Warriors: Three Hopes'' more in Golden Wildfire, which brings his ChronicBackstabbingDisorder and IDidWhatIHadToDo tendencies to the fore.
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%%** [[spoiler: The Ten Elites/The Einherjar have met much fan approval, both with their defiant antics despite being reduced to VoodooZombies under a geas and their heavily implied [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone remorse]] for serving under Nemesis and gaining their Crests.]]
%%** [[spoiler:Indech]] is also well loved from his first appearance; for being a NiceGuy, a playful and affectionate BigBrotherMentor to the students [[spoiler:and his siblings Rhea and Seteth]] and for his emotional role in later revelations.
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** Enjoyed Felix fighting Count Varley in Chapter 69? In the Azure Gleam route of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', Count Varley can once again be fought by Felix.
** A huge part of this fic's premise (that being Dimitri and Claude teaming up) becomes this since in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', two of the routes involve two of the lords teaming up. [[spoiler:Those lords being Claude and ''Edelgard'' in Scarlet Blaze and Golden Wildfire. Though on that note, Dimitri and Claude ''do'' team up to fight Thales and TWSITD in Azure Gleam albeit Claude is less than eager to help Dimitri due to the latter's support of Rhea, and it's implied that Claude might go against him to get rid of Rhea.]]
** A huge part of this fic's premise (that being Dimitri and Claude teaming up) becomes this since in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', two of the routes involve two of the lords teaming up. [[spoiler:Those lords being Claude and ''Edelgard'' in Scarlet Blaze and Golden Wildfire. Though on that note, Dimitri and Claude ''do'' team up to fight Thales and TWSITD in Azure Gleam albeit Claude is less than eager to help Dimitri due to the latter's support of Rhea, and it's implied that Claude might go against him to get rid of Rhea.]]
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** Enjoyed While Felix fighting gives Count Varley a brutal verbal smackdown in ''SK'' Chapter 69? In 69, he is also among the Kingdom generals in ''Three Hopes'' who can give him a brutal ''physical'' smackdown as well.
** The core premise of ''SK'' is the team-up between Dimitri and Claude to defeat the Empire. This comes to pass during the Azure Gleam route of''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', Count Varley can once again be fought by Felix.
** A huge part of this fic's premise (that being Dimitri and Claude teaming up) becomes this since in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', two of''Three Hopes'' [[spoiler:during the routes involve two of the lords teaming up. [[spoiler:Those lords being Claude and ''Edelgard'' in Scarlet Blaze and Golden Wildfire. Though on that note, Dimitri and Claude ''do'' team up to fight Thales and TWSITD in Azure Gleam albeit final battle, as Claude is less than eager less-than-eager to help fully assist Dimitri due to the latter's Kingdom's explicit support of Rhea, the Church. On the other two routes (Scarlet Blaze and it's implied that Golden Wildfire), Claude might go against him instead forms an alliance with ''Edelgard'', and should Shez keep Jeralt alive, that partnership sticks to get rid the very end of Rhea.the game.]]
** The core premise of ''SK'' is the team-up between Dimitri and Claude to defeat the Empire. This comes to pass during the Azure Gleam route of
** A huge part of this fic's premise (that being Dimitri and Claude teaming up) becomes this since in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', two of
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* AssPull: The Rite of Rising to save Byleth's life succeeding in part due to Bernadetta's blood. The Chalice of Beginnings was created for use by Saint Seiros and the Four Apostles (of which the Ashen Wolves are descendants) to attempt to revive Sothis. Bernadetta is a descendant of Indech, one of the Four ''Saints'', who weren't mentioned in Aelfric's account of the original Rite of Rising, and Bernie herself had no reason to believe that adding her blood to the mix would work when the original ritual failed despite Seiros being present to guide the Apostles.
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* KarmicOverkill: Edelgard's treatment under the hands of the Agarthans in Chapter 80 nets this reaction from a handful of readers with even a few who admittedly did not like Edelgard finding it as too much. The author has also admitted in replies that even they are uncomfortable at writing the scene in question.
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* KarmicOverkill: Edelgard's treatment under at the hands of the Agarthans in Chapter 80 nets earned this reaction from a handful of readers with even a few some readers. Even some fans who admittedly did not like didn't care for Edelgard finding deemed it as too much. overly cruel. The author has also admitted in replies that even they are were uncomfortable at while writing the scene in question.
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** Edelgard being given a huge dose of AdaptationalVillainy to near over the top levels can make it hard to take the context of the plot seriously, to note, Chapter 80, has Edelgard go through an even longer HumiliationConga than the previous times that it makes [[Series/GameOfThrones Stannis]] look lucky in comparison.
** In a lighter, non-Edelgard example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times, and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter. Different languages being used as placeholder languages such as Japanese for Almyran also makes it hard to take some parts seriously.
** In a lighter, non-Edelgard example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times, and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter. Different languages being used as placeholder languages such as Japanese for Almyran also makes it hard to take some parts seriously.
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** Edelgard being given a huge dose of AdaptationalVillainy to near over the top over-the-top levels can make it hard to take the context of the plot seriously, to note, seriously. In Chapter 80, has Edelgard go she goes through an even longer excessive HumiliationConga than the previous times such that it makes [[Series/GameOfThrones Stannis]] look looks lucky in comparison.
** In a lighter, non-Edelgard example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much attimes, times and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter. Different languages being used as placeholder languages languages, such as Japanese for Almyran or German for Agarthan, also makes it hard to take some parts seriously.
** In a lighter, non-Edelgard example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at
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Bleh, saved my edit early. I never took issue with her causing the Tragedy of Duscur; the plot rightly treats that as a horrible act she had to and largely did atone for.
Also grammar.
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I disagree that she develops. Most of her late behavior is just coming to agree with the author's assertions of her character, which only furthers her adaptational personality change.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[spoiler:Though the author's attempt to deconstruct Edelgard's archetype had been praised by a good portion of the readers, there are also a handful who lament that the AdaptationalVillainy Edelgard received ended up making her way more one-dimensional than her canonical counterpart had been and that Edelgard's CharacterDevelopment had come in too late due to the various HumiliationConga that Edelgard received for her actions. It's for this reason that the author eventually wrote a side story meant to give Edelgard the CharacterDevelopment she should have had in "The Flame Empress and the Liberation of Thracia".]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Atra , though well-liked, is seen as one to other readers. [[spoiler:Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them (Which gets called-out by Glenn InUniverse). Though the story implies a combination of not knowing right and wrong yet until she realized the weight of her complicity to the Tragedy of Duscur and being paranoid that anyone she meets could be an Agarthan in disguise is why she didn't dare speak of her knowledge yet, the fact that she knew where Shamballa was would be a huge boon for the heroes to solve the war faster, rather than to let it spiral to the Adrestia empire being taken over. Additionally, she knows the truth behind the Tragedy of Duscur, and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but kept to herself to solve it on her own. Given the enormity of what's at stake (she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide), she instead comes off as un-trusting paranoiac at best and cowardly at worst, which gets particularly jarring when Atra claims that ''she'' chose to turn on Thales and had learned to question what she was taught before to ''Edelgard'', who is just as stuck with what Thales had been feeding into her like Atra once was.]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Atra , though well-liked, is seen as one to other readers. [[spoiler:Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them (Which gets called-out by Glenn InUniverse). Though the story implies a combination of not knowing right and wrong yet until she realized the weight of her complicity to the Tragedy of Duscur and being paranoid that anyone she meets could be an Agarthan in disguise is why she didn't dare speak of her knowledge yet, the fact that she knew where Shamballa was would be a huge boon for the heroes to solve the war faster, rather than to let it spiral to the Adrestia empire being taken over. Additionally, she knows the truth behind the Tragedy of Duscur, and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but kept to herself to solve it on her own. Given the enormity of what's at stake (she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide), she instead comes off as un-trusting paranoiac at best and cowardly at worst, which gets particularly jarring when Atra claims that ''she'' chose to turn on Thales and had learned to question what she was taught before to ''Edelgard'', who is just as stuck with what Thales had been feeding into her like Atra once was.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[spoiler:Though the author's attempt to deconstruct Edelgard's archetype had been praised by a good portion of the readers, there are also a handful some who lament that the AdaptationalVillainy Edelgard received ended up making her way more one-dimensional than her canonical counterpart had been and that Edelgard's CharacterDevelopment had come in too late due to the various HumiliationConga that Edelgard received for her actions.been. It's for this reason that the author eventually wrote a side story meant to give Edelgard the CharacterDevelopment she should have had in "The Flame Empress and the Liberation of Thracia".]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Atra , though mosty well-liked, is seen as one to other readers. [[spoiler:Despite having information onthem the Agarthans that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them (Which (which gets called-out by Glenn InUniverse). Glenn). Though the story implies a combination case of not knowing right and wrong yet until she realized the weight of her complicity to the Tragedy of Duscur and being paranoid paranoia that anyone she meets met could be an Agarthan in disguise is why the reason she didn't dare speak of avoids sharing her knowledge yet, knowledge, the fact that she knew where Shamballa was would be have been a huge boon for the heroes to solve end the war faster, rather than as opposed to let letting it spiral to continue until the Adrestia empire being taken over. Adrestian Empire's fall. Additionally, she knows the truth behind the Tragedy of Duscur, Duscur and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but kept she keeps both to herself to solve it them on her own. Given the enormity of what's at stake (she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide), she instead comes off as un-trusting a paranoiac at best and cowardly at worst, which gets particularly jarring when Atra claims that ''she'' chose to turn on Thales and had learned to question what she was taught before to ''Edelgard'', who is just as stuck with what Thales had been feeding into her like Thales's lies as Atra once was.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[spoiler:Though the author's attempt to deconstruct Edelgard's archetype had been praised by a good portion of the readers, there are also a handful who lament that the AdaptationalVillainy Edelgard received ended up making her way more one-dimensional than her canonical counterpart had been and that Edelgard's CharacterDevelopment had come in too late due to the various HumiliationConga that Edelgard received for her actions. It's for this reason that the author eventually wrote a side story meant to give Edelgard the CharacterDevelopment she should have had in "The Flame Empress and the Liberation of Thracia".]]
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hiding Ensemble Darkhorse for the time being since they seem to be based on comments from Ao 3 rather than from wider discussions from other discussion focused forums and social media such as Reddit and discord
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** [[TheAtoner Atra]] is surprisingly popular for being an OC, due in part to her being [[spoiler: [[TokenHeroicOrc a sympathetic Agarthan character]]]] and her role as a DefectorFromDecadence.
** [[spoiler: The Ten Elites/The Einherjar have met much fan approval, both with their defiant antics despite being reduced to VoodooZombies under a geas and their heavily implied [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone remorse]] for serving under Nemesis and gaining their Crests.]]
** [[spoiler:Indech]] is also well loved from his first appearance; for being a NiceGuy, a playful and affectionate BigBrotherMentor to the students [[spoiler:and his siblings Rhea and Seteth]] and for his emotional role in later revelations.
** [[TheAtoner Atra]] is surprisingly popular for being an OC, due in part to her being [[spoiler: [[TokenHeroicOrc a sympathetic Agarthan character]]]] and her role as a DefectorFromDecadence.
** [[spoiler: The Ten Elites/The Einherjar have met much fan approval, both with their defiant antics despite being reduced to VoodooZombies under a geas and their heavily implied [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone remorse]] for serving under Nemesis and gaining their Crests.]]
** [[spoiler:Indech]] is also well loved from his first appearance; for being a NiceGuy, a playful and affectionate BigBrotherMentor to the students [[spoiler:and his siblings Rhea and Seteth]] and for his emotional role in later revelations.
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** %%** [[TheAtoner Atra]] is surprisingly popular for being an OC, due in part to her being [[spoiler: [[TokenHeroicOrc a sympathetic Agarthan character]]]] and her role as a DefectorFromDecadence.
** %%** [[spoiler: The Ten Elites/The Einherjar have met much fan approval, both with their defiant antics despite being reduced to VoodooZombies under a geas and their heavily implied [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone remorse]] for serving under Nemesis and gaining their Crests.]]
** %%** [[spoiler:Indech]] is also well loved from his first appearance; for being a NiceGuy, a playful and affectionate BigBrotherMentor to the students [[spoiler:and his siblings Rhea and Seteth]] and for his emotional role in later revelations.
* KarmicOverkill: Edelgard's treatment under the hands of the Agarthans in Chapter 80 nets this reaction from a handful of readers with even a few who admittedly did not like Edelgard finding it as too much. The author has also admitted in replies that even they are uncomfortable at writing the scene in question.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Even if Edelgard isn't much better in the truthfulness department, she is correct in arguing that the Church of Seiros altered history for their own benefit. She's later proven even more right when Byleth takes measures to conceal Rhea's knowing and deliberate distortion of history by describing them as simple mistranslations of the goddess's will.
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** Edelgard being given a huge dose of AdaptationalVillainy to near over the top levels can make it hard to take the context of the plot seriously, to note, Chapter 80, has Edelgard go through an even longer HumiliationConga than the previous times that it makes [[Series/GameOfThrones Stannis]] look lucky in comparison.
** In a lighter, non-Edelgard example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times, and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter. Different languages being used as placeholder languages such as Japanese for Almyran also makes it hard to take some parts seriously.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Even if Edelgard isn't much better in the truthfulness department, she is correct in arguing that the Church of Seiros altered history for their own benefit. She's later proven even more right when Byleth takes measures to conceal Rhea's knowing and deliberate distortion of history by describing them as simple mistranslations of the goddess'swill.will.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Atra , though well-liked, is seen as one to other readers. [[spoiler:Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them (Which gets called-out by Glenn InUniverse). Though the story implies a combination of not knowing right and wrong yet until she realized the weight of her complicity to the Tragedy of Duscur and being paranoid that anyone she meets could be an Agarthan in disguise is why she didn't dare speak of her knowledge yet, the fact that she knew where Shamballa was would be a huge boon for the heroes to solve the war faster, rather than to let it spiral to the Adrestia empire being taken over. Additionally, she knows the truth behind the Tragedy of Duscur, and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but kept to herself to solve it on her own. Given the enormity of what's at stake (she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide), she instead comes off as un-trusting paranoiac at best and cowardly at worst, which gets particularly jarring when Atra claims that ''she'' chose to turn on Thales and had learned to question what she was taught before to ''Edelgard'', who is just as stuck with what Thales had been feeding into her like Atra once was.]]
** Edelgard being given a huge dose of AdaptationalVillainy to near over the top levels can make it hard to take the context of the plot seriously, to note, Chapter 80, has Edelgard go through an even longer HumiliationConga than the previous times that it makes [[Series/GameOfThrones Stannis]] look lucky in comparison.
** In a lighter, non-Edelgard example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times, and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter. Different languages being used as placeholder languages such as Japanese for Almyran also makes it hard to take some parts seriously.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Even if Edelgard isn't much better in the truthfulness department, she is correct in arguing that the Church of Seiros altered history for their own benefit. She's later proven even more right when Byleth takes measures to conceal Rhea's knowing and deliberate distortion of history by describing them as simple mistranslations of the goddess's
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Atra , though well-liked, is seen as one to other readers. [[spoiler:Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them (Which gets called-out by Glenn InUniverse). Though the story implies a combination of not knowing right and wrong yet until she realized the weight of her complicity to the Tragedy of Duscur and being paranoid that anyone she meets could be an Agarthan in disguise is why she didn't dare speak of her knowledge yet, the fact that she knew where Shamballa was would be a huge boon for the heroes to solve the war faster, rather than to let it spiral to the Adrestia empire being taken over. Additionally, she knows the truth behind the Tragedy of Duscur, and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but kept to herself to solve it on her own. Given the enormity of what's at stake (she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide), she instead comes off as un-trusting paranoiac at best and cowardly at worst, which gets particularly jarring when Atra claims that ''she'' chose to turn on Thales and had learned to question what she was taught before to ''Edelgard'', who is just as stuck with what Thales had been feeding into her like Atra once was.]]
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* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** [[TheAtoner Atra]] is surprisingly popular for being an OC, due in part to her being [[spoiler: [[TokenHeroicOrc a sympathetic Agarthan character]]]] and her role as a DefectorFromDecadence.
** [[spoiler: The Ten Elites/The Einherjar have met much fan approval, both with their defiant antics despite being reduced to VoodooZombies under a geas and their heavily implied [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone remorse]] for serving under Nemesis and gaining their Crests.]]
** [[spoiler:Indech]] is also well loved from his first appearance; for being a NiceGuy, a playful and affectionate BigBrotherMentor to the students [[spoiler:and his siblings Rhea and Seteth]] and for his emotional role in later revelations.
** [[TheAtoner Atra]] is surprisingly popular for being an OC, due in part to her being [[spoiler: [[TokenHeroicOrc a sympathetic Agarthan character]]]] and her role as a DefectorFromDecadence.
** [[spoiler: The Ten Elites/The Einherjar have met much fan approval, both with their defiant antics despite being reduced to VoodooZombies under a geas and their heavily implied [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone remorse]] for serving under Nemesis and gaining their Crests.]]
** [[spoiler:Indech]] is also well loved from his first appearance; for being a NiceGuy, a playful and affectionate BigBrotherMentor to the students [[spoiler:and his siblings Rhea and Seteth]] and for his emotional role in later revelations.
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** A huge part of this fic's premise (that being Dimitri and Claude teaming up) becomes this since in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', two of the routes involve two of the lords teaming up. [[spoiler:Those lords being Claude and ''Edelgard'' in Scarlet Blaze and Golden Wildfire. Though on that note, Dimitri and Claude ''do'' team up to fight Thales and TWSITD in Azure Gleam albeit Claude is less than eager to help Dimitri due to the latter's support of Rhea, implied to have set Sreng forces to hinder the kingdom, and it's indicated that Claude will go against him to get rid of Rhea.]]
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** A huge part of this fic's premise (that being Dimitri and Claude teaming up) becomes this since in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemWarriorsThreeHopes'', two of the routes involve two of the lords teaming up. [[spoiler:Those lords being Claude and ''Edelgard'' in Scarlet Blaze and Golden Wildfire. Though on that note, Dimitri and Claude ''do'' team up to fight Thales and TWSITD in Azure Gleam albeit Claude is less than eager to help Dimitri due to the latter's support of Rhea, implied to have set Sreng forces to hinder the kingdom, and it's indicated implied that Claude will might go against him to get rid of Rhea.]]
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* {{Narm}}: The sheer lengths the author goes to give Edelgard the short end of the stick eventually start to become hilarious, the crowning jewels of which are:
** Chapter 80, which is dedicated to putting Edelgard through as much crap as possible in a short time in a way that would make [[Series/GameOfThrones Stannis]] look lucky in comparison.
** Chapter 93, which turns [[spoiler:Hegemon Edelgard]] into a throwaway encounter that only kills [[spoiler:Maurice]] and is barely dwelled on by the cast, something which was meant to be a KarmicDeath but comes off more like a gag.
** In a lighter example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times, and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Even if Edelgard isn't much better in the truthfulness department, she is correct in arguing that the Church of Seiros altered history for their own benefit. She's later proven even more right when Byleth takes measures to conceal Rhea's knowing and deliberate distortion of history by describing them as simple mistranslations of the goddess's will.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The fic's treatment of [[spoiler:Edelgard]] has been called out as this. The author takes one of the most complex examples of the [[spoiler:invading emperor]] character archetype in the history of the franchise and boils them down into a very one-dimensional racist, imperialist, megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur, lacking any depth, empathy or ability to back up their ambitions. They seldom appear in person, so their motives are [[ShowDontTell usually told to the reader by others]], and their appearances usually become shouting matches in which a heroic character takes the opportunity to pontificate about how terrible a person they are. Rather than being used to explore [[spoiler:Edelgard's]] thoughts and motives with any kind of depth, their point-of-view interludes are just used to dunk on them and drive home in exhausting detail exactly how out of their depth they are, how badly they're losing, [[spoiler: and how much they suffer in defeat]] instead of developing them as a character. That said, [[spoiler:the author eventually wrote an Edelgard centric story meant to give her CharacterDevelopment in ''The Flame Empress and the Liberation of Thracia''.]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Atra is a rogue Agarthan, working against Thales and his minions.]] Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them. Attempts are made to excuse this by clarifying she was a simple grunt, but divulging [[spoiler:the existence and location of Shambhala,]] both of which she knows, would be a ruinous blow. Additionally, she knows the truth behind [[spoiler:the Tragedy of Duscur,]] and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but again she makes no apparent effort to warn anyone. Given the enormity of what's at stake ([[spoiler:she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide]]), her actions paint her as foolish and untrusting at best and a coward at worst. This becomes particularly galling when she proudly points out to [[spoiler:Edelgard]] that ''she'' [[spoiler:turned on Thales]], rather than continue to do his bidding.
** Chapter 80, which is dedicated to putting Edelgard through as much crap as possible in a short time in a way that would make [[Series/GameOfThrones Stannis]] look lucky in comparison.
** Chapter 93, which turns [[spoiler:Hegemon Edelgard]] into a throwaway encounter that only kills [[spoiler:Maurice]] and is barely dwelled on by the cast, something which was meant to be a KarmicDeath but comes off more like a gag.
** In a lighter example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times, and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Even if Edelgard isn't much better in the truthfulness department, she is correct in arguing that the Church of Seiros altered history for their own benefit. She's later proven even more right when Byleth takes measures to conceal Rhea's knowing and deliberate distortion of history by describing them as simple mistranslations of the goddess's will.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The fic's treatment of [[spoiler:Edelgard]] has been called out as this. The author takes one of the most complex examples of the [[spoiler:invading emperor]] character archetype in the history of the franchise and boils them down into a very one-dimensional racist, imperialist, megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur, lacking any depth, empathy or ability to back up their ambitions. They seldom appear in person, so their motives are [[ShowDontTell usually told to the reader by others]], and their appearances usually become shouting matches in which a heroic character takes the opportunity to pontificate about how terrible a person they are. Rather than being used to explore [[spoiler:Edelgard's]] thoughts and motives with any kind of depth, their point-of-view interludes are just used to dunk on them and drive home in exhausting detail exactly how out of their depth they are, how badly they're losing, [[spoiler: and how much they suffer in defeat]] instead of developing them as a character. That said, [[spoiler:the author eventually wrote an Edelgard centric story meant to give her CharacterDevelopment in ''The Flame Empress and the Liberation of Thracia''.]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Atra is a rogue Agarthan, working against Thales and his minions.]] Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them. Attempts are made to excuse this by clarifying she was a simple grunt, but divulging [[spoiler:the existence and location of Shambhala,]] both of which she knows, would be a ruinous blow. Additionally, she knows the truth behind [[spoiler:the Tragedy of Duscur,]] and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but again she makes no apparent effort to warn anyone. Given the enormity of what's at stake ([[spoiler:she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide]]), her actions paint her as foolish and untrusting at best and a coward at worst. This becomes particularly galling when she proudly points out to [[spoiler:Edelgard]] that ''she'' [[spoiler:turned on Thales]], rather than continue to do his bidding.
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** Chapter 80, which is dedicated to putting Edelgard through as much crap as possible in a short time in a way that would make [[Series/GameOfThrones Stannis]] look lucky in comparison.
** Chapter 93, which turns [[spoiler:Hegemon Edelgard]] into a throwaway encounter that only kills [[spoiler:Maurice]] and is barely dwelled on by the cast, something which was meant to be a KarmicDeath but comes off more like a gag.
** In a lighter example, the ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times, and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The fic's treatment of [[spoiler:Edelgard]] has been called out as this. The author takes one of the most complex examples of the [[spoiler:invading emperor]] character archetype in the history of the franchise and boils them down into a very one-dimensional racist, imperialist, megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur, lacking any depth, empathy or ability to back up their ambitions. They seldom appear in person, so their motives are [[ShowDontTell usually told to the reader by others]], and their appearances usually become shouting matches in which a heroic character takes the opportunity to pontificate about how terrible a person they are. Rather than being used to explore [[spoiler:Edelgard's]] thoughts and motives with any kind of depth, their point-of-view interludes are just used to dunk on them and drive home in exhausting detail exactly how out of their depth they are, how badly they're losing, [[spoiler: and how much they suffer in defeat]] instead of developing them as a character. That said, [[spoiler:the author eventually wrote an Edelgard centric story meant to give her CharacterDevelopment in ''The Flame Empress and the Liberation of Thracia''.]]
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Atra is a rogue Agarthan, working against Thales and his minions.]] Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them. Attempts are made to excuse this by clarifying she was a simple grunt, but divulging [[spoiler:the existence and location of Shambhala,]] both of which she knows, would be a ruinous blow. Additionally, she knows the truth behind [[spoiler:the Tragedy of Duscur,]] and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but again she makes no apparent effort to warn anyone. Given the enormity of what's at stake ([[spoiler:she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide]]), her actions paint her as foolish and untrusting at best and a coward at worst. This becomes particularly galling when she proudly points out to [[spoiler:Edelgard]] that ''she'' [[spoiler:turned on Thales]], rather than continue to do his bidding.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The fic's treatment of [[spoiler:Edelgard]] has been called out as this. The author takes one of the most complex examples of the [[spoiler:invading emperor]] character archetype in the history of the franchise and boils them down into a very one-dimensional racist, imperialist, megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur, lacking any depth, empathy or ability to back up their ambitions. They seldom appear in person, so their motives are [[ShowDontTell usually told to the reader by others]], and their appearances usually become shouting matches in which a heroic character takes the opportunity to pontificate about how terrible a person they are. Rather than being used to explore [[spoiler:Edelgard's]] thoughts and motives with any kind of depth, their point-of-view interludes are just used to dunk on them and drive home in exhausting detail exactly how out of their depth they are, how badly they're losing, [[spoiler: and how much they suffer in defeat]] instead of developing them as a character.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The fic's treatment of [[spoiler:Edelgard]] has been called out as this. The author takes one of the most complex examples of the [[spoiler:invading emperor]] character archetype in the history of the franchise and boils them down into a very one-dimensional racist, imperialist, megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur, lacking any depth, empathy or ability to back up their ambitions. They seldom appear in person, so their motives are [[ShowDontTell usually told to the reader by others]], and their appearances usually become shouting matches in which a heroic character takes the opportunity to pontificate about how terrible a person they are. Rather than being used to explore [[spoiler:Edelgard's]] thoughts and motives with any kind of depth, their point-of-view interludes are just used to dunk on them and drive home in exhausting detail exactly how out of their depth they are, how badly they're losing, [[spoiler: and how much they suffer in defeat]] instead of developing them as a character. That said, [[spoiler:the author eventually wrote an Edelgard centric story meant to give her CharacterDevelopment in ''The Flame Empress and the Liberation of Thracia''.]]
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Even if Edelgard isn't much better in the truthfulness department, she is correct in arguing that the Church of Seiros altered history for their own benefit. She's later proven even more right when Byleth takes measures to conceal Rhea's knowing and deliberate distortion of history by describing them as simple mistranslations of the goddess's will.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The fic's treatment of [[spoiler:Edelgard]] has been called out as this. The author takes one of the most complex examples of the [[spoiler:invading emperor]] character archetype in the history of the franchise and boils them down into a very one-dimensional racist, imperialist, megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur, lacking any depth or ability to back up their ambitions. They seldom appear in person, so their motives are [[ShowDontTell usually told to the reader by others]], and their appearances usually become shouting matches in which a heroic character takes the opportunity to pontificate about how terrible a person they are. Rather than being used to explore [[spoiler:Edelgard's]] thoughts and motives with any kind of depth, their point of view interludes are just used to dunk on them and drive home in exhausting detail exactly how out of their depth they are, how badly they're losing, [[spoiler: and how much they suffer in defeat.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The fic's treatment of [[spoiler:Edelgard]] has been called out as this. The author takes one of the most complex examples of the [[spoiler:invading emperor]] character archetype in the history of the franchise and boils them down into a very one-dimensional racist, imperialist, megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur, lacking any depth depth, empathy or ability to back up their ambitions. They seldom appear in person, so their motives are [[ShowDontTell usually told to the reader by others]], and their appearances usually become shouting matches in which a heroic character takes the opportunity to pontificate about how terrible a person they are. Rather than being used to explore [[spoiler:Edelgard's]] thoughts and motives with any kind of depth, their point of view point-of-view interludes are just used to dunk on them and drive home in exhausting detail exactly how out of their depth they are, how badly they're losing, [[spoiler: and how much they suffer in defeat.]]defeat]] instead of developing them as a character.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The fic's treatment of [[spoiler:Edelgard]] has been called out as this. The author takes one of the most complex examples of the [[spoiler:invading emperor]] character archetype in the history of the franchise and boils them down into a very one-dimensional racist, imperialist, megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur, lacking any depth or ability to back up their ambitions. They seldom appear in person, so their motives are [[ShowDontTell usually told to the reader by others]], and their appearances usually become shouting matches in which a heroic character takes the opportunity to pontificate about how terrible a person they are. Rather than being used to explore [[spoiler:Edelgard's]] thoughts and motives with any kind of depth, their point of view interludes are just used to dunk on them and drive home in exhausting detail exactly how out of their depth they are, how badly they're losing, [[spoiler: and how much they suffer in defeat.]]
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* AlasPoorScrappy: Even the author, who [[CreatorsPest loathes her]], can't feel anything but pity for [[spoiler:Edelgard when she's in Agarthan captivity in Chapter 80 and realizes that everything she ever did was AllForNothing,]] and admits that it was difficult to write the scene where [[spoiler:Odesse savagely beats the chained-up Edelgard for a feeble escape attempt]].
* CryForTheDevil: This story holds a dim interpretation of the Flame Emperor — a hypocritical, self-righteous warmonger incapable of self-reflection. [[spoiler:Yet for all of the horrible things she does, Edelgard has always been a victim of the Agarthans. She's been under their thumbs since she was about twelve, yet still receives the lion's share of the blame for continuing tyrannical policies that started under her father's reign. When Edelgard chooses to catalyze a war over a millennium in the making, she ends up losing horribly because the deck is so insanely stacked against her that even Sun Tzu would have surrendered immediately. She ultimately ends up right back where she started - a helpless captive of the real monsters plaguing Fódlan. As a final insult, her death occurs completely on her abusers' terms rather than the terms of the people she hurt.]]
* CryForTheDevil: This story holds a dim interpretation of the Flame Emperor — a hypocritical, self-righteous warmonger incapable of self-reflection. [[spoiler:Yet for all of the horrible things she does, Edelgard has always been a victim of the Agarthans. She's been under their thumbs since she was about twelve, yet still receives the lion's share of the blame for continuing tyrannical policies that started under her father's reign. When Edelgard chooses to catalyze a war over a millennium in the making, she ends up losing horribly because the deck is so insanely stacked against her that even Sun Tzu would have surrendered immediately. She ultimately ends up right back where she started - a helpless captive of the real monsters plaguing Fódlan. As a final insult, her death occurs completely on her abusers' terms rather than the terms of the people she hurt.]]
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** One of the most prominent scenes in this fic is Odesse brutally torturing Edelgard. Meanwhile in Scarlet Blaze, Edelgard can actually fight Odesse in one of the Slither bases and on certain missions. Perhaps interdimensional payback for the events in this fic?
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** One of the most prominent scenes in this fic is Odesse brutally torturing Edelgard. Meanwhile in Scarlet Blaze, Edelgard can actually fight Odesse in one of the Slither bases and on certain missions. Perhaps interdimensional payback for the events in this fic?
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** Chapter 80, which is dedicated to putting Edelgard through as much crap as possible in a short time in a way that would make [[LiveActionTV/GameOfThrones Stannis]] look lucky in comparison.
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** Chapter 80, which is dedicated to putting Edelgard through as much crap as possible in a short time in a way that would make [[LiveActionTV/GameOfThrones [[Series/GameOfThrones Stannis]] look lucky in comparison.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** [[TheAtoner Atra]] is surprisingly popular for being an OC, due in part to her being [[spoiler: [[TokenHeroicOrc a sympathetic Agarthan character]]]] and her role as a DefectorFromDecadence.
** [[spoiler: The Ten Elites/The Einherjar have met much fan approval, both with their defiant antics despite being reduced to VoodooZombies under a geas and their heavily implied [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone remorse]] for serving under Nemesis and gaining their Crests.]]
** [[spoiler:Indech]] is also well loved from his first appearance; for being a NiceGuy, a playful and affectionate BigBrotherMentor to the students [[spoiler:and his siblings Rhea and Seteth]] and for his emotional role in later revelations.
** [[TheAtoner Atra]] is surprisingly popular for being an OC, due in part to her being [[spoiler: [[TokenHeroicOrc a sympathetic Agarthan character]]]] and her role as a DefectorFromDecadence.
** [[spoiler: The Ten Elites/The Einherjar have met much fan approval, both with their defiant antics despite being reduced to VoodooZombies under a geas and their heavily implied [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone remorse]] for serving under Nemesis and gaining their Crests.]]
** [[spoiler:Indech]] is also well loved from his first appearance; for being a NiceGuy, a playful and affectionate BigBrotherMentor to the students [[spoiler:and his siblings Rhea and Seteth]] and for his emotional role in later revelations.
** Additionally, the fic's premise has Claude and the Golden Deer picked by this fic's version of Byleth and teaming up with Dimitri to fight Edelgard and the Slithers. Not only does Scarlet Blaze have Byleth join up with Claude and the Alliance against [[spoiler: Edelgard and Shez, but if certain conditions are fulfilled, then Claude and Byleth will fight Edelgard and the Empire while also backstabbing the Kingdom and Dimitri, and while it's optional for Claude to die, Byleth meets a definite end at the hands of Shez. Meaning it's entirely canonically possible for Edelgard and the Black Eagles to fight Dimitri, Claude and Byleth on the same field, and come out the victor. The entire scenario feels like a derailed version of this fic's premise especially with the marketing and game emphasizing Female Byleth and Male Shez.]]
** Arguably, even the author's take on Edelgard herself turned out this way, as ''Three Hopes'' heavily hints she would have jumped at the chance to ditch her Agarthan 'allies' at the first opportunity rather than use them for her own goals.
** One of the most prominent scenes in this fic is Odesse brutally torturing Edelgard. Meanwhile in Scarlet Blaze, Edelgard can actually fight Odesse in one of the Slither bases and on certain missions. Perhaps interdimensional payback for the events in this fic?
** Arguably, even the author's take on Edelgard herself turned out this way, as ''Three Hopes'' heavily hints she would have jumped at the chance to ditch her Agarthan 'allies' at the first opportunity rather than use them for her own goals.
** One of the most prominent scenes in this fic is Odesse brutally torturing Edelgard. Meanwhile in Scarlet Blaze, Edelgard can actually fight Odesse in one of the Slither bases and on certain missions. Perhaps interdimensional payback for the events in this fic?
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** Diado/[[TheMole Cornelia]] obliterated the horizon by [[spoiler:{{Gaslighting}} Dimitri's stepmother Anselma/Patricia, who genuinely loved him and Lambert, into thinking that Lambert was deliberately preventing her from seeing Edelgard]]. Cornelia offered a way to reunite her with her daughter... [[spoiler:and told her her to smuggle Agarthan soldiers to her husband's next conference in order to 'cause a ruckus' she could use to slip away — giving no indication of the planned massacre awaiting them. This allowed the Tragedy of Duscur to be carried out and Anselma's DrivenToSuicide flight and fall in the woods after witnessing Lambert's beheading, implicitly believing that Dimitri was dead as well.]]
* {{Narm}}: The ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times, and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kronya, of all characters. In the game, she's considered a very flat CardCarryingVillain, whose complete lack of characterization and backstory made her an unlikable waste of a character — even for one meant to be a HateSink. Here, she's much better received, even though she technically doesn't act much different — the author greatly expanded on her backstory, revealing that she UsedToBeASweetKid before being corrupted by Thales's cultlike rulership over Shambhala, and that her sadism is a result of being used as a child soldier warping her psyche. Her relationship with [[spoiler:her sister, Atra,]] is legitimately tragic, causing readers to feel genuinely sad when she dies crying out for [[spoiler:her murdered mother]].
* {{Narm}}: The ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times, and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kronya, of all characters. In the game, she's considered a very flat CardCarryingVillain, whose complete lack of characterization and backstory made her an unlikable waste of a character — even for one meant to be a HateSink. Here, she's much better received, even though she technically doesn't act much different — the author greatly expanded on her backstory, revealing that she UsedToBeASweetKid before being corrupted by Thales's cultlike rulership over Shambhala, and that her sadism is a result of being used as a child soldier warping her psyche. Her relationship with [[spoiler:her sister, Atra,]] is legitimately tragic, causing readers to feel genuinely sad when she dies crying out for [[spoiler:her murdered mother]].
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** Chapter 80, which is dedicated to putting Edelgard through as much crap as possible in a short time in a way that would make [[LiveActionTV/GameOfThrones Stannis]] look lucky in comparison.
** Chapter 93, which turns [[spoiler:Hegemon Edelgard]] into a throwaway encounter that only kills [[spoiler:Maurice]] and is barely dwelled on by the cast, something which was meant to be
** In a lighter example, the
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kronya, of all characters. In the game, she's considered a very flat CardCarryingVillain, whose complete lack of characterization and backstory made her an unlikable waste of a character — even for one meant to be a HateSink. Here, she's much better received, even though she technically doesn't act much different — the author greatly expanded on her backstory, revealing that she UsedToBeASweetKid before being corrupted by Thales's cultlike rulership over Shambhala, and that her sadism is a result of being used as a child soldier warping her psyche. Her relationship with [[spoiler:her sister, Atra,]] is legitimately tragic, causing readers to feel genuinely sad when she dies crying out for [[spoiler:her murdered mother]].
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Atra is a rogue Agarthan, working against Thales and his minions.]] Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them. Attempts are made to excuse this by clarifying she was a simple grunt, but divulging [[spoiler:the existence and location of Shambhala,]] both of which she knows, would be a ruinous blow. Additionally, she knows the truth behind [[spoiler:the Tragedy of Duscur,]] and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but again she makes no apparent effort to warn anyone. Given the enormity of what's at stake ([[spoiler:she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide]]), her actions paint her as foolish and untrusting at best and a coward at worst. This becomes particularly galling when she proudly points out to [[spoiler:Edelgard]] that ''she'' [[spoiler:turned on Thales]], rather than continue to do his bidding.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Atra is a rogue Agarthan, working against Thales and his minions.]] Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them. Attempts are made to excuse this by clarifying she was a simple grunt, but divulging [[spoiler:the existence and location of Shambhala,]] both of which she knows, would be a ruinous blow. Additionally, she knows the truth behind [[spoiler:the Tragedy of Duscur,]] and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but again she makes no apparent effort to warn anyone. Given the enormity of what's at stake ([[spoiler:she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide]]), her actions paint her as foolish and untrusting at best and a coward at worst. This becomes particularly galling when she proudly points out to [[spoiler:Edelgard]] that ''she'' [[spoiler:turned on Thales]], rather than continue to do his bidding.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kronya, of all characters. In the game, she's considered a very flat CardCarryingVillain, whose complete lack of characterization and backstory made her an unlikable waste of a character — even for one meant to be a HateSink. Here, she's much better received, even though she technically doesn't act much different — the author greatly expanded on her backstory, revealing that she UsedToBeASweetKid before being corrupted by Thales's cultlike rulership over Shambhala, and that her sadism is a result of being used as a child soldier warping her psyche. Her relationship with [[spoiler:her sister, Atra,]] is legitimately tragic, causing readers to feel genuinely sad when she dies crying out for [[spoiler:her murdered mother]].
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Atra is a rogue Agarthan, working against Thales and his minions.]] Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them. Attempts are made to excuse this by clarifying she was a simple grunt, but divulging [[spoiler:the existence and location of Shambhala,]] both of which she knows, would be a ruinous blow. Additionally, she knows the truth behind [[spoiler:the Tragedy of Duscur,]] and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but again she makes no apparent effort to warn anyone. Given the enormity of what's at stake ([[spoiler:she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide]]), her actions paint her as foolish and untrusting at best and a coward at worst. This becomes particularly galling when she proudly points out to [[spoiler:Edelgard]] that ''she'' [[spoiler:turned on Thales]], rather than continue to do his bidding.mother]].
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Atra is a rogue Agarthan, working against Thales and his minions.]] Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them. Attempts are made to excuse this by clarifying she was a simple grunt, but divulging [[spoiler:the existence and location of Shambhala,]] both of which she knows, would be a ruinous blow. Additionally, she knows the truth behind [[spoiler:the Tragedy of Duscur,]] and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but again she makes no apparent effort to warn anyone. Given the enormity of what's at stake ([[spoiler:she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide]]), her actions paint her as foolish and untrusting at best and a coward at worst. This becomes particularly galling when she proudly points out to [[spoiler:Edelgard]] that ''she'' [[spoiler:turned on Thales]], rather than continue to do his bidding.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Atra is a rogue Agarthan, working against Thales and his minions.]] Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them. Attempts are made to excuse this by clarifying she was a simple grunt, but divulging [[spoiler:the existence and location of Shambhala,]] both of which she knows, would be a ruinous blow. Additionally, she knows the truth behind [[spoiler:the Tragedy of Duscur,]] and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but again she makes no apparent effort to warn anyone. Given the enormity of what's at stake ([[spoiler:she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide]]), her actions paint her as foolish and untrusting at best and a coward at worst. This becomes particularly galling when she proudly points out to the [[spoiler:Edelgard]] that ''she'' [[spoiler:turned on Thales]], rather than continue to do his bidding.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Atra is a rogue Agarthan, working against Thales and his minions.]] Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them. Attempts are made to excuse this by clarifying she was a simple grunt, but divulging [[spoiler:the existence and location of Shambhala,]] both of which she knows, would be a ruinous blow. Additionally, she knows the truth behind [[spoiler:the Tragedy of Duscur,]] and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but again she makes no apparent effort to warn anyone. Given the enormity of what's at stake ([[spoiler:she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide]]), her actions paint her as foolish and untrusting at best and a coward at worst. This becomes particularly galling when she proudly points out to the [[spoiler:Edelgard]] that ''she'' [[spoiler:turned on Thales]], rather than continue to do his bidding.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kronya, of all characters. In the game, she's considered a very flat CardCarryingVillain, whose complete lack of characterization and backstory made her an unlikable waste of a character — even for one meant to be a HateSink. Here, she's much better received, even though she technically doesn't act much different — the author greatly expanded on her backstory, revealing that she UsedToBeASweetKid before being corrupted by Thales's cultlike rulership over Shambhala, and that her sadism is a result of being used as a child soldier warping her psyche. Her relationship with [[spoiler:her sister, Atra,]] is legitimately tragic, causing readers to feel genuinely sad when she dies crying out for [[spoiler:her murdered mother]].
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kronya, of all characters. In the game, she's considered a very flat CardCarryingVillain, whose complete lack of characterization and backstory made her an unlikable waste of a character — even for one meant to be a HateSink. Here, she's much better received, even though she technically doesn't act much different — the author greatly expanded on her backstory, revealing that she UsedToBeASweetKid before being corrupted by Thales's cultlike rulership over Shambhala, and that her sadism is a result of being used as a child soldier warping her psyche. Her relationship with [[spoiler:her sister, Atra,]] is legitimately tragic, causing readers to feel genuinely sad when she dies crying out for [[spoiler:her murdered mother]].mother]].
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Atra is a rogue Agarthan, working against Thales and his minions.]] Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them. Attempts are made to excuse this by clarifying she was a simple grunt, but divulging [[spoiler:the existence and location of Shambhala,]] both of which she knows, would be a ruinous blow. Additionally, she knows the truth behind [[spoiler:the Tragedy of Duscur,]] and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but again she makes no apparent effort to warn anyone. Given the enormity of what's at stake ([[spoiler:she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide]]), her actions paint her as foolish and untrusting at best and a coward at worst. This becomes particularly galling when she proudly points out to the [[spoiler:Edelgard]] that ''she'' [[spoiler:turned on Thales]], rather than continue to do his bidding.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Atra is a rogue Agarthan, working against Thales and his minions.]] Despite having information on them that nobody else does, she keeps everything she knows to herself and instead wages an ineffective one-woman guerilla war against them. Attempts are made to excuse this by clarifying she was a simple grunt, but divulging [[spoiler:the existence and location of Shambhala,]] both of which she knows, would be a ruinous blow. Additionally, she knows the truth behind [[spoiler:the Tragedy of Duscur,]] and becomes aware of the Remire Calamity over a month before the situation in the village spirals out of control, but again she makes no apparent effort to warn anyone. Given the enormity of what's at stake ([[spoiler:she knows Thales and his ilk are out for genocide]]), her actions paint her as foolish and untrusting at best and a coward at worst. This becomes particularly galling when she proudly points out to the [[spoiler:Edelgard]] that ''she'' [[spoiler:turned on Thales]], rather than continue to do his bidding.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: Edelgard by and large sticks to her canon self with her negative traits exaggerated, but the author, who professes open hatred for her character, also created new flaws wholecloth. In canon, she never disregarded Dimitri as an out-and-out madman as she does in this fic, nor did she consider him naive, guileless, or stupid, and in canon she never disparaged Claude for being mixed-race.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: Edelgard by and large sticks to her canon self with her negative traits exaggerated, but the author, who professes open hatred for her character, also created new flaws wholecloth. In canon, she never disregarded Dimitri as an out-and-out madman as she does in this fic, nor did she consider him naive, guileless, or stupid, and in canon she never disparaged Claude for being mixed-race.
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Now about fanon trends, not specific fanworks which are Adaptational tropes.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kronya, of all characters. In the game, she's considered a very flat CardCarryingVillain, whose complete lack of characterization and backstory made her an unlikable waste of a character — even for one meant to be a HateSink. Here, she's much better received, even though she technically doesn't act much different — the author greatly expanded on her backstory, revealing that she UsedToBeASweetKid before being corrupted by Thales's cultlike rulership over Shambhala, and that her sadism is a result of being used as a child soldier warping her psyche. Her relationship with [[spoiler:her sister, Atra,]] is legitimately tragic, causing readers to feel genuinely sad when she dies crying out for [[spoiler:her murdered mother]].
* RonTheDeathEater: Edelgard by and large sticks to her canon self with her negative traits exaggerated, but the author, who professes open hatred for her character, also created new flaws wholecloth. In canon, she never disregarded Dimitri as an out-and-out madman as she does in this fic, nor did she consider him naive, guileless, or stupid, and in canon she never disparaged Claude for being mixed-race.
* RonTheDeathEater: Edelgard by and large sticks to her canon self with her negative traits exaggerated, but the author, who professes open hatred for her character, also created new flaws wholecloth. In canon, she never disregarded Dimitri as an out-and-out madman as she does in this fic, nor did she consider him naive, guileless, or stupid, and in canon she never disparaged Claude for being mixed-race.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Kronya, of all characters. In the game, she's considered a very flat CardCarryingVillain, whose complete lack of characterization and backstory made her an unlikable waste of a character — even for one meant to be a HateSink. Here, she's much better received, even though she technically doesn't act much different — the author greatly expanded on her backstory, revealing that she UsedToBeASweetKid before being corrupted by Thales's cultlike rulership over Shambhala, and that her sadism is a result of being used as a child soldier warping her psyche. Her relationship with [[spoiler:her sister, Atra,]] is legitimately tragic, causing readers to feel genuinely sad when she dies crying out for [[spoiler:her murdered mother]].
* RonTheDeathEater: Edelgard by and large sticks to her canon self with her negative traits exaggerated, but the author, who professes open hatred for her character, also created new flaws wholecloth. In canon, she never disregarded Dimitri as an out-and-out madman as she does in this fic, nor did she consider him naive, guileless, or stupid, and in canon she never disparaged Claude for being mixed-race.mother]].
* RonTheDeathEater: Edelgard by and large sticks to her canon self with her negative traits exaggerated, but the author, who professes open hatred for her character, also created new flaws wholecloth. In canon, she never disregarded Dimitri as an out-and-out madman as she does in this fic, nor did she consider him naive, guileless, or stupid, and in canon she never disparaged Claude for being mixed-race.
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* {{Narm}}: The ''swearing'' in this fanfiction gets to be a bit much at times, and reads like the writer attempting to make for a grittier story. You know it's bad when [[NiceGuy Raphael]] is noted by the narration to casually swear as early as the first chapter.
