History YMMV / TheMagnificentAmbersons

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The movie is considered among film scholars to be a groundbreaking literary adaptation, a fact that is harder to appreciate for newer audiences. The conventional thinking in classic Hollywood and even today is that movies should mimic theatre and have a ThreeActStructure which many have long noted rarely applies to novels which are rich in scenic description, interior development and NarrativeFiligree. Welles' vision used cinematic means to put this across (especially in the opening section with the narration montage which simulates and recreates the period detail and descriptive passages of 19th century books) and this inspired many later approaches to adapting movies especially Scorsese's ''Literature/TheAgeOfInnocence''.

** In retrospect, historians argue that with ''Ambersons'', Welles simply failed to understand normal studio politics. On ''Kane'', Welles was given the red carpet with the likes of Gregg Toland, producers George Schaeffer and John Houseman as well as well-wishers like Creator/JohnFord and Creator/WilliamWyler protecting him from dealing with the pressures of RKO's management and publicity department and simply focus on making the film, more or less working similar to how he worked on his radio and theatrical productions. For ''Magnificent Ambersons'' he was on his own, and RKO chiefs who were skeptical of Kane's negative reception and controversy with Hearst, were willing to make use of the smallest slips and mistakes to rid themselves off his contract.

** As for those blaming Welles for being megalomaniacal, it was he himself who surrendered his AuteurLicense despite still being on contract. He did this is an act of good faith to RKO chief George Schaeffer who was facing internal pressure for greenlighting Kane and backing Welles. It was Welles' hope that ''The Magnificent Ambersons'' be an uncontroversial subject, lacking in the topical and political criticisms in ''Kane'' so that it wouldn't bring controversy, at least not in terms of content. During the production of Kane, the US Government asked Welles to shoot a documentary in Brazil as part of the Good Neighbour Policy which kept Welles away from America for most of the post-production, and as a result of poor communication during wartime and the difficulty of getting a via, Welles was not able to properly communicate with Wise, nor was Wise able to travel to Brazil to edit the film as both he and Welles originally intended.

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The movie is considered among film scholars to be a groundbreaking literary adaptation, a fact that is harder to appreciate for newer audiences. The conventional thinking in classic hollywood and even today is that movies should mimic theatre and have a ThreeActStructure which many have long noted rarely applies to novels which are rich in scenic description, interior development and NarrativeFiligree. Welles' vision used cinematic means to put this across (especially in the opening section with the narration montage which simulates and recreates the period detail and descriptive passages of 19th century books) and this inspired many later approaches to adapting movies especially Scorsese's ''Literature/TheAgeOfInnocence''.

** For many years Welles fans blamed Creator/RobertWise for for cutting out scenes from the film for the theatrical release. Welles contributed to this, by blaming and resenting Wise for his changes and for Wise insisting that the released version was better than the original (which Welles [[BerserkButton naturally disagreed with]]). The truth is that before the first preview, it was Welles himself who asked Robert Wise to cut out a major scene from the film (George preventing Eugene from seeing his mother). This was a pivotal dramatic moment and it was entirely Welles' decision to remove it, a fact which only became clear once film historian Robert Carringer accessed the cutting continuity which has survived. Carringer argues that removing this scene for the first preview at Pomona played a part in the negative reception, and he notes that for the second preview, Wise reinserted (without Welles' consent) the same scenes back into the movie, and the Pasadena Preview played far better, but by then, the new management at RKO felt that Welles was PersonaNonGrata and wanted nothing to do with, and they ordered Wise and another director to do reshoots and change the ending.

** While the filmmakers who completed the movie can be blamed for changing Welles's ending, the LighterAndSofter ending was not their creation; it's actually based on the ending of Tarkington's novel, where Lucy reunites with George and Eugene reflects that "he had been true at last to his true love."

* AwardSnub: The film was up for four {{UsefulNotes/Academy Award}}s, but Creator/OrsonWelles wasn't nominated for Best Director.

* AwardSnub: The film was up for four Oscars, but Creator/OrsonWelles wasn't nominated for Best Director.

** In retrospect, historians argue that with ''Ambersons'', Welles simply failed to understand normal studio politics. On ''Kane'', Welles was given the red carpet with the likes of Gregg Toland, producers George Schaeffer and John Houseman as well as well-wishers like John Ford and William Wyler protecting him from dealing with the pressures of RKO's management and publicity department and simply focus on making the film, more or less working similar to how he worked on his radio and theatrical productions. For ''Magnificent Ambersons'' he was on his own, and RKO chiefs who were skeptical of Kane's negative reception and controversy with Hearst, were willing to make use of the smallest slips and mistakes to rid themselves off his contract.

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: ''The Magnificent Ambersons'' is considered among film scholars to be a groundbreaking literary adaptation, a fact that is harder to appreciate for newer audiences. The conventional thinking in classic hollywood and even today is that movies should mimic theatre and have a ThreeActStructure which many have long noted rarely applies to novels which are rich in scenic description, interior development and NarrativeFiligree. Welles' vision used cinematic means to put this across (especially in the opening section with the narration montage which simulates and recreates the period detail and descriptive passages of 19th century books) and this inspired many later approaches to adapting movies especially Scorsese's ''Literature/TheAgeOfInnocence''.

* VindicatedByHistory: The first test screening was met with near complete ridicule ([[CassandraTruth some 10% said it was a masterpiece]] and the second test screening was a success. RKO then proceeded (without Orson's approval) to change the ending, which did nothing for its appeal to American audiences in the 40s. Nowadays, while it might not be as fantastically unforgettable as ''Film/CitizenKane'', it is very highly regarded and still considered a masterpiece and one of the greatest period films and literary adaptations of all time.

* EnsembleDarkhorse: George's aunt Fanny steals the show in her little screentime due to her being pressure cooker to begin with, but then giving off a torrential, hysterical performance that still gets praise today. Not to mention being the only member of the family who isn't afraid to scold George for his rudeness.

* EnsembleDarkhorse: George's aunt Fanny steals the show in her little screentime due to her being pressure cooker to begin with, but then giving off a torrential, hysterical performance that still gets praise today.

* VindicatedByHistory: A test screening was met with complete ridicule. RKO then proceeded (without Orson's approval) to change the ending, which did nothing for its appeal to American audiences in the 40s. Nowadays, while it might not be as fantastically unforgettable as ''Film/CitizenKane'', it is very highly regarded and still considered a masterpiece.

* {{Misblamed}}: There are two versions given about why this film faced ExecutiveMeddling, one casts Creator/OrsonWelles as a self-destructive ByronicHero, another casts Creator/RKOPictures as the bad guy. The truth is there was a lot of PoorCommunicationKills on account of the chaotic situation and TroubledProduction:

* ValuesResonance: By the dawn of the 21st Century, with the decline of American auto, and the rising consensus against car cities, Eugene and George's debate on the efficacy of automobiles gains renewed currency.

* {{Narm}}: One of reasons for RKO's ExecutiveMeddling. Preview audiences laughed at several scenes that were intended to be extremely dramatic.

* {{Misblamed}}: There are two versions given about why this film faced ExecutiveMeddling, one casts Welles as a self-destructive ByronicHero, another casts Creator/RKOPictures as the bad guy. The truth is there was a lot of PoorCommunicationKills on account of the chaotic situation and TroubledProduction:
** For many years Welles fans blamed Creator/RobertWise for for cutting out scenes from the film for the theatrical release. Welles contributed to this, by blaming and resenting Wise for his changes and for Wise insisting that the released version was better than the original (which Welles [[BerserkButton naturally disagreed with]]). The truth is that before the first preview, it was Orson Welles himself who asked Robert Wise to cut out a major scene from the film (George preventing Eugene from seeing his mother). This was a pivotal dramatic moment and it was entirely Welles' decision to remove it, a fact which only became clear once film historian Robert Carringer accessed the cutting continuity which has survived. Carringer argues that removing this scene for the first preview at Pomona played a part in the negative reception, and he notes that for the second preview, Wise reinserted (without Welles' consent) the same scenes back into the movie, and the Pasadena Preview played far better, but by then, the new management at RKO felt that Welles was PersonaNonGrata and wanted nothing to do with, and they ordered Wise and another director to do reshoots and change the ending.

* JerkassWoobie: George by the end of the story