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* ValuesDissonance: While it can be amusing to some for [[CrossesTheLineTwice being deliberately offensive]], the show's general attitude towards its female characters can often come off as shamelessly dismissive and sexist -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners, etc., all of which can be very cringeworthy today when sexual misconduct is taken much more seriously.

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* ValuesDissonance: While it can be amusing to some for [[CrossesTheLineTwice being deliberately offensive]], the show's general attitude towards its female characters can often come off as shamelessly dismissive and sexist -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners, etc., all of which can be very cringeworthy today when sexual misconduct is and discrimination in the workplace are taken much more seriously.
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** In a more general sense, while more self-aware than Hank, Larry isn't exactly an angel in this regard either, making contemporary viewers wonder how either Larry or Hank might cope in a [=post-#MeToo=] world. In fact, Shandling himself didn't cope too well in the [=pre-#MeToo=] world, being sued for sexual harassment and wrongful termination after he broke up with Linda Doucett (Darlene) and then fired her; the suit was settled for $1m. Overall, the show had an attitude that could come often as dismissive and sexist towards its female characters -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners, etc., which can be cringeworthy in hindsight.

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** In a more general sense, while more self-aware than Hank, Larry isn't exactly an angel in this regard either, making contemporary viewers wonder how either Larry or Hank might cope in a [=post-#MeToo=] world. In fact, Shandling himself didn't cope too well in the [=pre-#MeToo=] world, being sued for sexual harassment and wrongful termination after he broke up with Linda Doucett (Darlene) and then fired her; the suit was settled for $1m. Overall, the show had an attitude that could come often as dismissive and sexist towards its female characters -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners, etc., which can be cringeworthy in hindsight.




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* ValuesDissonance: While it can be amusing to some for [[CrossesTheLineTwice being deliberately offensive]], the show's general attitude towards its female characters can often come off as shamelessly dismissive and sexist -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners, etc., all of which can be very cringeworthy today when sexual misconduct is taken much more seriously.
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** Creator/LoriLoughlin appears as herself on the show, being accused of stealing money from Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of tame family sitcoms would never do something criminal and completely petty. (It eventually turns out she stole at least some of the money in an ending gag) Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd.

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** Creator/LoriLoughlin appears as herself on the show, being accused of stealing money from Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of tame family sitcoms would never do something criminal and completely petty. (It eventually turns out she stole at least some of the money in an ending gag) Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd. She eventually pleaded guilty in May of 2020.
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** Creator/JeffreyTambor as Hank Kingsley looks an awful lot like Series/DoctorPhil.

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** Creator/JeffreyTambor as Hank Kingsley looks an awful lot like Series/DoctorPhil.Series/DrPhil.
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*** Hank becomes offended when he's not asked to play Creator/LizaMinnelli in a sketch. (He eventually does). Flash forward a few years and Tambor would star as a transgender woman in ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and star with Liza in "Arrested Development".

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*** ** Hank becomes offended when he's not asked to play Creator/LizaMinnelli in a sketch. (He eventually does). Flash forward a few years and Tambor would star as a transgender woman in ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and star with Liza in "Arrested Development".''Series/ArrestedDevelopment''.
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** Creator/LoriLoughlin is accused of stealing money from Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of tame family sitcoms would never do something criminal and completely petty. (It eventually turns out she stole at least some of the money in an ending gag) Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd.

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** Creator/LoriLoughlin is appears as herself on the show, being accused of stealing money from Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of tame family sitcoms would never do something criminal and completely petty. (It eventually turns out she stole at least some of the money in an ending gag) Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd.
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** In a more general sense, while more self-aware than Hank, Larry isn't exactly an angel in this regard either, making contemporary viewers wonder how either Larry or Hank might cope in a [=post-#MeToo=] world. In fact, Shandling himself didn't cope too well in the [=pre-#MeToo=] world, being sued for sexual harassment and wrongful termination after he broke up with Linda Doucett (Darlene) and then fired her; the suit was settled for $1m. Overall, the show had an often-dismissive and sexist attitude towards its female characters -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners, etc.

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** In a more general sense, while more self-aware than Hank, Larry isn't exactly an angel in this regard either, making contemporary viewers wonder how either Larry or Hank might cope in a [=post-#MeToo=] world. In fact, Shandling himself didn't cope too well in the [=pre-#MeToo=] world, being sued for sexual harassment and wrongful termination after he broke up with Linda Doucett (Darlene) and then fired her; the suit was settled for $1m. Overall, the show had an often-dismissive attitude that could come often as dismissive and sexist attitude towards its female characters -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners, etc., which can be cringeworthy in hindsight.

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** In a more general sense, while more self-aware than Hank, Larry isn't exactly an angel in this regard either, making contemporary viewers wonder how either Larry or Hank might cope in a post-#[=MeToo=] world.
** Shandling himself didn't cope too well in the pre-#[=MeToo=] world, being sued for sexual harassment and wrongful termination after he broke up with Linda Doucett (Darlene) and then fired her; the suit was settled for $1m.
** The often-dismissive and sexist attitude of the show towards its female characters -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners, etc

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** In a more general sense, while more self-aware than Hank, Larry isn't exactly an angel in this regard either, making contemporary viewers wonder how either Larry or Hank might cope in a post-#[=MeToo=] world.
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[=post-#MeToo=] world. In fact, Shandling himself didn't cope too well in the pre-#[=MeToo=] [=pre-#MeToo=] world, being sued for sexual harassment and wrongful termination after he broke up with Linda Doucett (Darlene) and then fired her; the suit was settled for $1m.
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$1m. Overall, the show had an often-dismissive and sexist attitude of the show towards its female characters -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners, etcetc.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/JeffreyTambor as Hank Kingsley looks an awful lot like Series/DoctorPhil.
** Hank becomes offended when he's not asked to play Creator/LizaMinnelli in a sketch. (He eventually does). Flash forward a few years and Tambor would star as a transgender woman in ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and star with Liza in "Arrested Development".

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Creator/JeffreyTambor as Hank Kingsley looks an awful lot like Series/DoctorPhil.
** *** Hank becomes offended when he's not asked to play Creator/LizaMinnelli in a sketch. (He eventually does). Flash forward a few years and Tambor would star as a transgender woman in ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and star with Liza in "Arrested Development".
** It's hard to watch Creator/BobOdenkirk as a sleazy-but-charismatic agent with a fondness for lairy suits and ''not'' picture him as a proto-[[Franchise/BreakingBad Saul Goodman]].
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** Creator/LoriLoughlin is accused of stealing money from Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of sitcoms could never do something criminal and completely petty. (It eventually turns out she stole at least some of the money in an ending gag) Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd.

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** Creator/LoriLoughlin is accused of stealing money from Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of tame family sitcoms could would never do something criminal and completely petty. (It eventually turns out she stole at least some of the money in an ending gag) Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd.
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** Hank becomes offended when he's not asked to play Creator/LizaMinnelli in a sketch. (He eventually does). Flash forward a few years and Tambor would star as a transgender woman in ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and star with Liza in "Series//[[ArrestedDevelopment]]".

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** Hank becomes offended when he's not asked to play Creator/LizaMinnelli in a sketch. (He eventually does). Flash forward a few years and Tambor would star as a transgender woman in ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and star with Liza in "Series//[[ArrestedDevelopment]]".
"Arrested Development".
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** Hank becomes offended when he's not asked to play Creator/LizaMenelli in a sketch. (He eventually does). Flash forward a few years and Tambor would star as a transgender woman in ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and star with Liza in "Series//[[Arrested Development]]".

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** Hank becomes offended when he's not asked to play Creator/LizaMenelli Creator/LizaMinnelli in a sketch. (He eventually does). Flash forward a few years and Tambor would star as a transgender woman in ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and star with Liza in "Series//[[Arrested Development]]".
"Series//[[ArrestedDevelopment]]".
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** Hank becomes offended when he's not asked to play Creator/LizaMenelli in a sketch. (He eventually does). Flash forward a few years and Tambor would star as a transgender woman in ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and star with Liza in "Series//[[Arrested Development]]".
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** Creator/LoriLoughlin is accused of stealing Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of sitcoms could never do something criminal. Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd.

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** Creator/LoriLoughlin is accused of stealing money from Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of sitcoms could never do something criminal. criminal and completely petty. (It eventually turns out she stole at least some of the money in an ending gag) Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd.

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** Creator/LoriLoughlin is accused of stealing Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of sitcoms could never do something criminal. Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd.



** Lori Loughlin is accused of stealing Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of sitcoms could never do something criminal. Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd.

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** Lori Loughlin is accused of stealing Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of sitcoms could never do something criminal. Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd.
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**Lori Loughlin is accused of stealing Larry's wallet in one episode. The gag originally being the absurdity that the squeaky clean star of sitcoms could never do something criminal. Flash forward to 2019, and Loughlin was arrested for bribery of college officials and refused to plead guilty, causing her to face serious legal penalties. Suddenly the idea of her stealing money from Larry wasn't so absurd.

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** Watching Hank awkwardly and inappropriately try and flirt with almost every woman who crosses his path in "Next Stop... Bottom!" takes on a much more uncomfortable air after 2017, when Jeffrey Tambor was accused of sexual harassment by several of the women working on ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and subsequently fired from the show.

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** Watching Hank awkwardly and inappropriately try and flirt with almost every woman who crosses his path in "Next Stop... Bottom!" takes on a much more uncomfortable air after 2017, when Jeffrey Tambor Creator/JeffreyTambor was accused of sexual harassment by several of the women working on ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and subsequently fired from the show.



** The often-dismissive and sexist attitude of the show towards its female characters -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners
* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/JeffreyTambor as Hank Kingsley looks an awful lot like Series/DoctorPhil.

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** The often-dismissive and sexist attitude of the show towards its female characters -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners
partners, etc
* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/JeffreyTambor as Hank Kingsley looks an awful lot like Series/DoctorPhil.Series/DoctorPhil.
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** Shandling himself didn't cope too well in the pre-#[=MeToo=] world, being sued for sexual harassment and wrongful termination after he broke up with Linda Doucett (Darlene) and then fired her; the suit was settled for $1m.
**The often-dismissive and sexist attitude of the show towards its female characters -- Darlene as TheDitz, Paula (Creator/JaneaneGarofalo) often given nothing to do, Penny as the put-upon P.A., Larry's various nagging partners
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** In a more general sense, while more self-aware than Hank Larry isn't exactly an angel in this regard either, making contemporary viewers wonder how either Larry or Hank might cope in a post-#[=MeToo=] world.

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** In a more general sense, while more self-aware than Hank Hank, Larry isn't exactly an angel in this regard either, making contemporary viewers wonder how either Larry or Hank might cope in a post-#[=MeToo=] world.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Watching Hank awkwardly and inappropriately try and flirt with almost every woman who crosses his path in "Next Stop... Bottom!" takes on a much more uncomfortable air after 2017, when Jeffrey Tambor was accused of sexual harassment by several of the women working on ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and subsequently fired from the show.

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Watching Hank awkwardly and inappropriately try and flirt with almost every woman who crosses his path in "Next Stop... Bottom!" takes on a much more uncomfortable air after 2017, when Jeffrey Tambor was accused of sexual harassment by several of the women working on ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and subsequently fired from the show.show.
** In a more general sense, while more self-aware than Hank Larry isn't exactly an angel in this regard either, making contemporary viewers wonder how either Larry or Hank might cope in a post-#[=MeToo=] world.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Watching Hank awkwardly and inappropriately try and flirt with almost every woman who crosses his path in "Next Stop... Bottom!" takes on a much more uncomfortable air after 2017, when Jeffrey Tambor was accused of sexual harassment by several of the women working on ''Series{{Transparent}}'' and subsequently fired from the show.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Watching Hank awkwardly and inappropriately try and flirt with almost every woman who crosses his path in "Next Stop... Bottom!" takes on a much more uncomfortable air after 2017, when Jeffrey Tambor was accused of sexual harassment by several of the women working on ''Series{{Transparent}}'' ''Series/{{Transparent}}'' and subsequently fired from the show.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Watching Hank awkwardly and inappropriately try and flirt with almost every woman who crosses his path in "Next Stop... Bottom!" takes on a much more uncomfortable air after 2017, when Jeffrey Tambor was accused of sexual harassment by several of the women working on ''Series{{Transparent}}'' and subsequently fired from the show.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/JeffreyTambor as Hank Kingsley looks an awful lot like Series/DoctorPhil.

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