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* MagnificentBastard: His Rulership Lord Radiculitis the Terrible. He has survived forty-four plots and three rebellions, and he manages to hold three different fractions (the poklons, the wisemen and the vkushetses, all of them constantly fighting with one another) under his control. He [[spoiler:secretly has a library]] and delights in snarking at his ingratiating vassals – all of it while maintaining the exterior of a honey-tongued, slightly senile and grandfatherly old man. It’s a pity [[spoiler:[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse his fate after the rememberers’ victory]] isn’t specified]].
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** Does Veri-Meri have any feelings for Squirrel? There is the fact that he talked to her quite a lot and encouraged her with the thought she’d be her own mistress one day. It might have all been his elaborate scheme of WifeHusbandry, but since nobody in the family particularly cared for Squirrel, the Moles might have also been happy to marry her off to the atani without much ado – so the whole manipulation thing might not have been so necessary. Since Veri-Meri isn’t one to waste his time, was he perhaps trying, at least partly, to genuinely sympathize with the girl? On the other hand, as much as they don’t like their sister, the Moles hate Veri-Meri so much they could have refused to be related to him in any way.

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** Does Veri-Meri have any feelings for Squirrel? There is the fact that he talked to her quite a lot and encouraged her with the thought she’d be her own mistress one day. It might have all been his elaborate scheme of WifeHusbandry, but since nobody in the family particularly cared for Squirrel, the Moles might have also been happy to marry her off to the atani without much ado – so the whole manipulation thing might not have been so necessary. Since Veri-Meri isn’t one to waste his time, was he perhaps trying, at least partly, to genuinely sympathize with the girl? On the other hand, as much as they don’t like their sister, the Moles hate Veri-Meri so much they could have refused to be related to him in any way. Then again: when [[spoiler:just before his memory wipe]] he cried about losing her love, was it genuine or was it him PlayingTheVictimCard once more, [[spoiler:still hoping to avoid execution]]?
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* NightmareFuel: Old Mole's death, even though its description is brief, is rather horrifying. He got lost in the woods, fell into a ravine with the remnants of the memory-wipe field, and became a BlankSlate. His sons found him, starved and exhausted, and brought him back to the castle, only for him to have some horrible nightmares and hang himself in the tower.

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* NightmareFuel: Old Mole's death, even though its description is brief, is rather horrifying. He got lost in the woods, fell into a ravine with the remnants of the memory-wipe field, and became a BlankSlate. His sons found him, him starved and exhausted, and brought him back to the castle, only for him to have some horrible nightmares and hang himself in the tower.
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** IronWoobie: Iria Gai. Her beloved husband Tadeusz goes missing during an extremely risky missions, she goes to rescue him, leaving her infant daughter with relatives, then she discovers increasingly alarming clues of his fate, and then she learns he has completely lost his memory and the planet is living through the Middle Ages again. She goes to search for him, ends up being held prisoner, barely escaping a forced marriage, [[spoiler:nearly getting sold as a slave, and nearly losing her own memory, only for Tadeusz to stare blankly at her as they are reunited]]. All the while managing to keep her cool, remain a badass and play TeamMom to Alice, Pashka and Squirrel.

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** IronWoobie: Iria Gai. Her beloved husband Tadeusz goes missing during an extremely risky missions, mission, she goes to rescue him, leaving her infant daughter with relatives, then she discovers increasingly alarming clues of his fate, and then she learns he has completely lost his memory and the planet is living through the Middle Ages again. She goes to search for him, ends up being held prisoner, barely escaping a forced marriage, [[spoiler:nearly getting sold as a slave, and nearly losing her own memory, only for Tadeusz to stare blankly at her as they are reunited]]. All the while managing to keep her cool, remain a badass and play TeamMom to Alice, Pashka and Squirrel.

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Per the trope’s cleanup thread. He’s way too much a bastard to be magnificent, and not charming in the least


* MagnificentBastard: The main antagonists, for once, really mean business. They hadn’t predicted [[SpannerInTheWorks a bunch of aliens coming out of the blue]] and upsetting things, but then Krina has been isolated for two and a half centuries and even the rememberers hardly believe space travel is possible.
** His Rulership Lord Radiculitis the Terrible. He has survived forty-four plots and three rebellions, and he manages to hold three different fractions (the poklons, the wisemen and the vkushetses, all of them constantly fighting with one another) under his control. He [[spoiler:secretly has a library]] and delights in snarking at his ingratiating vassals – all of it while maintaining the exterior of a honey-tongued, slightly senile old man. It’s a pity [[spoiler:[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse his fate after the rememberers’ victory]] isn’t specified]].
** For all that he’s despicable, Veri-Meri qualifies. He managed to rise from the lowest of the low to one of the most influential men in the city, and for his most successful schemes (such as getting the Mole brothers in mortal danger) he doesn’t even use money and connections – only the brilliant knowledge of his victims’ psychology. If he [[spoiler:hadn’t blurted out he can write]], he could have wormed his way out of [[spoiler:imprisonment]] as well. Then again, there are these vague and suspicious descriptions of [[spoiler:his memory wipe and the aftermath]]…

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* MagnificentBastard: The main antagonists, for once, really mean business. They hadn’t predicted [[SpannerInTheWorks a bunch of aliens coming out of the blue]] and upsetting things, but then Krina has been isolated for two and a half centuries and even the rememberers hardly believe space travel is possible.
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His Rulership Lord Radiculitis the Terrible. He has survived forty-four plots and three rebellions, and he manages to hold three different fractions (the poklons, the wisemen and the vkushetses, all of them constantly fighting with one another) under his control. He [[spoiler:secretly has a library]] and delights in snarking at his ingratiating vassals – all of it while maintaining the exterior of a honey-tongued, slightly senile and grandfatherly old man. It’s a pity [[spoiler:[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse his fate after the rememberers’ victory]] isn’t specified]]. \n** For all that he’s despicable, Veri-Meri qualifies. He managed to rise from the lowest of the low to one of the most influential men in the city, and for his most successful schemes (such as getting the Mole brothers in mortal danger) he doesn’t even use money and connections – only the brilliant knowledge of his victims’ psychology. If he [[spoiler:hadn’t blurted out he can write]], he could have wormed his way out of [[spoiler:imprisonment]] as well. Then again, there are these vague and suspicious descriptions of [[spoiler:his memory wipe and the aftermath]]…

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** There are fanfics with Left Mole/Alice. Again, they only meet in this book [[spoiler:and also six years later in the epilogue]]; Alice is twelve at the time and Left Mole at the very least eighteen, and anyway he views her merely as a [[spoiler:gifted acrobat who can bring him good money at the slave market]]. Nevertheless, his PragmaticVillainy (more so than in his brother’s case) and PetTheDog moments contribute to the shipping.

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** There are fanfics with Left Mole/Alice. Again, they only meet in this book [[spoiler:and also six years later in the epilogue]]; Alice is twelve at the time and Left Mole at the very least eighteen, and anyway he views her merely as a [[spoiler:gifted acrobat who can bring him good money at the slave market]]. Nevertheless, his PragmaticVillainy (more so than in his brother’s case) and PetTheDog moments contribute to the shipping.shipping.
* TheWoobie:
** Every good guy on Krina needs a hug badly. Starting from the FridgeHorror-fueling lives of Squirrel and her mother, and ending with Dr. Crack and other rememberers who, despite rising above medieval realities, still struggle to survive, and before Alice and Co. arrive, many of them don’t have much hope in preserving knowledge.
** IronWoobie: Iria Gai. Her beloved husband Tadeusz goes missing during an extremely risky missions, she goes to rescue him, leaving her infant daughter with relatives, then she discovers increasingly alarming clues of his fate, and then she learns he has completely lost his memory and the planet is living through the Middle Ages again. She goes to search for him, ends up being held prisoner, barely escaping a forced marriage, [[spoiler:nearly getting sold as a slave, and nearly losing her own memory, only for Tadeusz to stare blankly at her as they are reunited]]. All the while managing to keep her cool, remain a badass and play TeamMom to Alice, Pashka and Squirrel.

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* MagnificentBastard: His Rulership Lord Radiculitis the Terrible. He has survived forty-four plots and three rebellions, and he manages to hold three different fractions (the poklons, the wisemen and the vkushetses, all of them constantly fighting with one another) under his control. He [[spoiler:secretly has a library]] and delights in snarking at his ingratiating vassals – all of it while maintaining the exterior of a honey-tongued, slightly senile old man. It’s a pity [[spoiler:[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse his fate after the rememberers’ victory]] isn’t specified]].

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* MagnificentBastard: The main antagonists, for once, really mean business. They hadn’t predicted [[SpannerInTheWorks a bunch of aliens coming out of the blue]] and upsetting things, but then Krina has been isolated for two and a half centuries and even the rememberers hardly believe space travel is possible.
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His Rulership Lord Radiculitis the Terrible. He has survived forty-four plots and three rebellions, and he manages to hold three different fractions (the poklons, the wisemen and the vkushetses, all of them constantly fighting with one another) under his control. He [[spoiler:secretly has a library]] and delights in snarking at his ingratiating vassals – all of it while maintaining the exterior of a honey-tongued, slightly senile old man. It’s a pity [[spoiler:[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse his fate after the rememberers’ victory]] isn’t specified]].
** For all that he’s despicable, Veri-Meri qualifies. He managed to rise from the lowest of the low to one of the most influential men in the city, and for his most successful schemes (such as getting the Mole brothers in mortal danger) he doesn’t even use money and connections – only the brilliant knowledge of his victims’ psychology. If he [[spoiler:hadn’t blurted out he can write]], he could have wormed his way out of [[spoiler:imprisonment]] as well. Then again, there are these vague and suspicious descriptions of [[spoiler:his memory wipe and the aftermath]]…
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* NightmareFuel: Old Mole's death, even though its description is brief, is rather horrifying. He got lost in the woods, fell into a ravine with the remnants memory-wipe field, and became a BlankSlate. His sons found him and brought him back to the castle, only for him to have some horrible nightmares and hang himself in the tower.

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* NightmareFuel: Old Mole's death, even though its description is brief, is rather horrifying. He got lost in the woods, fell into a ravine with the remnants of the memory-wipe field, and became a BlankSlate. His sons found him him, starved and exhausted, and brought him back to the castle, only for him to have some horrible nightmares and hang himself in the tower.
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* MagnificentBastard: His Rulership Lord Radiculitis. He has survived forty-four plots and three rebellions, and he manages to hold three different fractions (the poklons, the wisemen and the vkushetses, all of them constantly fighting with one another) under his control. He [[spoiler:secretly has a library]] and delights in snarking at his ingratiating vassals – all of it while maintaining the exterior of a honey-tongued, slightly senile old man. It’s a pity [[spoiler:[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse his fate after the rememberers’ victory]] isn’t specified]].

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* MagnificentBastard: His Rulership Lord Radiculitis.Radiculitis the Terrible. He has survived forty-four plots and three rebellions, and he manages to hold three different fractions (the poklons, the wisemen and the vkushetses, all of them constantly fighting with one another) under his control. He [[spoiler:secretly has a library]] and delights in snarking at his ingratiating vassals – all of it while maintaining the exterior of a honey-tongued, slightly senile old man. It’s a pity [[spoiler:[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse his fate after the rememberers’ victory]] isn’t specified]].
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* NightmareFuel: Old Mole's death, even though its description is brief, is rather horrifying. He got lost in the woods, fell into a ravine with the remnants memory-wipe field, and became a BlankSlate. His sons found him and brought him back to the castle, only for him to have some horrible nightmares and hang himself in the tower.
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* MagnificentBastard: His Rulership Lord Radiculitis. He has survived forty-four plots and three rebellions, and he manages to hold three different fractions (the poklons, the wisemen and the vkushetses, all of them constantly fighting with one another) under his control. He [[spoiler:secretly has a library]] and delights in snarking at his ingratiating vassals – all of it while maintaining the exterior of a honey-tongued, slightly senile old man. It’s a pity [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse his fate after the rememberers’ victory isn’t specified.

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* MagnificentBastard: His Rulership Lord Radiculitis. He has survived forty-four plots and three rebellions, and he manages to hold three different fractions (the poklons, the wisemen and the vkushetses, all of them constantly fighting with one another) under his control. He [[spoiler:secretly has a library]] and delights in snarking at his ingratiating vassals – all of it while maintaining the exterior of a honey-tongued, slightly senile old man. It’s a pity [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse [[spoiler:[[WhatHappenedToTheMouse his fate after the rememberers’ victory victory]] isn’t specified.specified]].

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* MagnificentBastard: His Rulership Lord Radiculitis. He has survived forty-four plots and three rebellions, and he manages to hold three different fractions (the poklons, the wisemen and the vkushetses, all of them constantly fighting with one another) under his control. He [[spoiler:secretly has a library]] and delights in snarking at his ingratiating vassals – all of it while maintaining the exterior of a honey-tongued, slightly senile old man. It’s a pity [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse his fate after the rememberers’ victory isn’t specified.



** There are fanfics with Left Mole/Alice. Again, they only meet in this book [[spoiler:and also six years later in the epilogue]]; Alice is twelve at the time and Left Mole at the very least eighteen, and anyway he views her merely as a gifted acrobat who can bring him good money at the slave market. Nevertheless, his PragmaticVillainy (more so than in his brother’s case) and PetTheDog moments contribute to the shipping.

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** There are fanfics with Left Mole/Alice. Again, they only meet in this book [[spoiler:and also six years later in the epilogue]]; Alice is twelve at the time and Left Mole at the very least eighteen, and anyway he views her merely as a gifted [[spoiler:gifted acrobat who can bring him good money at the slave market.market]]. Nevertheless, his PragmaticVillainy (more so than in his brother’s case) and PetTheDog moments contribute to the shipping.

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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Boar is sometimes shipped with Iria, even though they only meet once, [[spoiler:he is killed just several hours later]], and Iria is HappilyMarried. Nevertheless, some fans suppose his gentle treatment of her injured hands could have strayed towards more IntimateHealing.

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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Probably holds the record among the series for all the shipping of recurring characters with non-recurring ones.
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Boar is sometimes shipped with Iria, even though they only meet once, [[spoiler:he is killed just several hours later]], and Iria is HappilyMarried. Nevertheless, some fans suppose his gentle treatment of her injured hands could have strayed towards more IntimateHealing.IntimateHealing.
** There are fanfics with Left Mole/Alice. Again, they only meet in this book [[spoiler:and also six years later in the epilogue]]; Alice is twelve at the time and Left Mole at the very least eighteen, and anyway he views her merely as a gifted acrobat who can bring him good money at the slave market. Nevertheless, his PragmaticVillainy (more so than in his brother’s case) and PetTheDog moments contribute to the shipping.

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* EvenBetterSequel: According to many fans, in relation to ''The End of Atlantis''. The more serious and realistic tone, the more colorful and detailed setting, and the much more interesting and complex characters and plotlines certainly do the job. ''The End of Atlantis'' isn’t the only Alice story that goes "Alice and Pashka go underwater and discover aliens/time travelers", while ''The City Without Memory'' is one of a kind in the series. Some consider it to be the very best of Alice books.

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* EvenBetterSequel: According to many fans, in relation to ''The End of Atlantis''. The more serious and realistic tone, the more colorful and detailed setting, and the much more interesting and complex characters and plotlines certainly do the job. ''The End of Atlantis'' isn’t the only Alice story that goes "Alice and Pashka go underwater and discover aliens/time travelers", while ''The City Without Memory'' is one of a kind in the series. Some consider it to be the very best of Alice books.books.
* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Boar is sometimes shipped with Iria, even though they only meet once, [[spoiler:he is killed just several hours later]], and Iria is HappilyMarried. Nevertheless, some fans suppose his gentle treatment of her injured hands could have strayed towards more IntimateHealing.
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** Does Veri-Meri have any feelings for Squirrel? There is the fact that he talked to her quite a lot and encouraged her with the thought she’d be her own mistress one day. It might have all been his elaborate scheme of WifeHusbandry, but since nobody in the family particularly cared for Squirrel, the Moles might have also been happy to marry her off to the atani without much ado – so the whole manipulation thing might not have been so necessary. Since Veri-Meri isn’t one to waste his time, was he perhaps trying, at least partly, to genuinely sympathize with the girl?

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** Does Veri-Meri have any feelings for Squirrel? There is the fact that he talked to her quite a lot and encouraged her with the thought she’d be her own mistress one day. It might have all been his elaborate scheme of WifeHusbandry, but since nobody in the family particularly cared for Squirrel, the Moles might have also been happy to marry her off to the atani without much ado – so the whole manipulation thing might not have been so necessary. Since Veri-Meri isn’t one to waste his time, was he perhaps trying, at least partly, to genuinely sympathize with the girl?girl? On the other hand, as much as they don’t like their sister, the Moles hate Veri-Meri so much they could have refused to be related to him in any way.

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* EvenBetterSequel: According to many fans, in relation to ''The End of Atlantis''. The more serious and realistic tone, the more colorful and detailed setting, and the much more interesting characters and plotlines certainly do the job. ''The End of Atlantis'' isn’t the only Alice story that goes "Alice and Pashka go underwater and discover aliens/time travelers", while ''The City Without Memory'' is one of a kind in the series. Some consider it to be the very best of Alice books.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** The rememberers kidnap children to teach them. How much of it can be justified as a NecessaryEvil? It’s worth noting that Old Mole’s kidnapping of Centipede outrages [[EvenEvilHasStandards Radiculitis and the poklons]], and [[spoiler:Veri-Meri’s attempted abduction of Squirrel]] is treated as practically a MoralEventHorizon by the rememberers themselves. Granted, children’s lives are much happier in the Shelter than Centipede’s life with Old Mole or [[spoiler:what Squirrel’s life with Veri-Meri could have been]], but still.
** 99% of the Moles’ CharacterDevelopment happened offscreen, so [[spoiler:it’s unknown whether they have actually changed their ways by the time of the epilogue]]. But then again, of course, it’s said that [[spoiler:[[EvilDetectingDog the unicorns]] have returned to them]].
** Does Veri-Meri have any feelings for Squirrel? There is the fact that he talked to her quite a lot and encouraged her with the thought she’d be her own mistress one day. It might have all been his elaborate scheme of WifeHusbandry, but since nobody in the family particularly cared for Squirrel, the Moles might have also been happy to marry her off to the atani without much ado – so the whole manipulation thing might not have been so necessary. Since Veri-Meri isn’t one to waste his time, was he perhaps trying, at least partly, to genuinely sympathize with the girl?
* EvenBetterSequel: According to many fans, in relation to ''The End of Atlantis''. The more serious and realistic tone, the more colorful and detailed setting, and the much more interesting and complex characters and plotlines certainly do the job. ''The End of Atlantis'' isn’t the only Alice story that goes "Alice and Pashka go underwater and discover aliens/time travelers", while ''The City Without Memory'' is one of a kind in the series. Some consider it to be the very best of Alice books.
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* EvenBetterSequel: According to many fans, in relation to ''The End of Atlantis''. The more serious and realistic tone, the more colorful and detailed setting, and the much more interesting characters and plotlines certainly do the job. ''The End of Atlantis'' isn’t the only Alice story that goes "Alice and Pashka go underwater and discover aliens/time travelers", while ''The City Without Memory'' is one of a kind in the series.

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* EvenBetterSequel: According to many fans, in relation to ''The End of Atlantis''. The more serious and realistic tone, the more colorful and detailed setting, and the much more interesting characters and plotlines certainly do the job. ''The End of Atlantis'' isn’t the only Alice story that goes "Alice and Pashka go underwater and discover aliens/time travelers", while ''The City Without Memory'' is one of a kind in the series. Some consider it to be the very best of Alice books.
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* EvenBetterSequel: According to many fans, in relation to ''The End of Atlantis''. The more serious and realistic tone, the more colorful and detailed setting, and the much more interesting characters and plotlines certainly do the job. ''The End of Atlantis'' isn’t the only Alice story that goes "Alice and Pashka go underwater and discover aliens/time travelers", while ''The City Without Memory'' is one of a kind in the series.

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