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** The massive complaint and argument that is bound to be found when talking about ''The Abandoned Empress'' is the ending. Specifically, the fact that [[spoiler:Aristia ends up with Ruve]]. This caused many a reader to stop reading after they found out about the ending [[spoiler:due to the abuse that the original Ruve had put on her and believe that even if he changed in the new timeline, they don't accept it as it comes across as an Unfortunate Implications that Tia ends up with the man who abused her in the past (I.E, the original timeline), and would rather have Tia be paired with Carsein or Allendis]]. However, there is a second party who are accepting it with the argument that [[spoiler:Aristia is paired with a Ruve who changed and end up being kinder towards her due to ForWantOfANail effects in play, and shouldn't be held accountable for the actions of the original timeline Ruve, considering them as different individuals]]. Then there's the middle ground: [[spoiler:those who find the fact uncomfortable but still continue to read despite knowing that regardless to see how the webcomic adaptation handles this and eventually accepting how the matter is handled or they don't]].

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** The massive complaint and argument that is bound to be found when talking about ''The Abandoned Empress'' is the ending. Specifically, the fact that [[spoiler:Aristia ends up with Ruve]]. This caused many a reader to stop reading after they found out about the ending [[spoiler:due to the abuse that the original Ruve had put on her and believe that even if he changed in the new timeline, they don't accept it as it comes across as an Unfortunate Implications that Tia ends up with the man who abused her in the past (I.E, the original timeline), and would rather have Tia be paired with Carsein or Allendis]]. However, there is a second party who are accepting it with the argument that [[spoiler:Aristia is paired with a Ruve who changed and end up being kinder towards her due to ForWantOfANail for-want-of-a-nail effects in play, and shouldn't be held accountable for the actions of the original timeline Ruve, considering them as different individuals]]. Then there's the middle ground: [[spoiler:those who find the fact uncomfortable but still continue to read despite knowing that regardless to see how the webcomic adaptation handles this and eventually accepting how the matter is handled or they don't]].
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Ruve, Ruve, RUVE. He is single-handedly the BIGGEST point of contention amongst fans in the entire story, to the very point where he [[OvershadowedbyControversy completely overshadows]] just about every other element in the story. The biggest reason for this is whether or not fans decide he's culpable for the actions of his alternate self, and whether or not it's believable that Aristia fell for him again as an adult/late teenager.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Ruve, Ruve, RUVE. He Ruve is single-handedly the BIGGEST biggest point of contention amongst fans in the entire story, to the very point where he [[OvershadowedbyControversy completely overshadows]] just about every other element in the story. The biggest reason for this is whether or not fans decide he's culpable for the actions of his alternate self, and whether or not it's believable that Aristia fell for him again as an adult/late teenager.

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* AudienceAlienatingEnding: No matter the good art or story, most discussions will only have people discuss of the ending, rather than anything good about the series.



* MoralEventHorizon: The Ruve of the first timeline sails across this as the first chapters of the novel and webcomic depicts his abuse of Aristia in detail. He neglects Aristia, rapes her, hits her, preemptively disowns her child, kills her father, torments her with his death and finally kills her. This while Aristia and her father support and help him unconditionally (she manages the kingdom and he leads his knights). It's one hell of an EstablishingCharacterMoment and likely contributes to the reaction many readers had once they learn the ending that [[spoiler:Aristia ends up with Ruve in the new timeline, which opened up a can of worms and puts Ruve in a BaseBreakingCharacter position]].
* OvershadowedByControversy: No matter the good art or story, most discussions will only have people discuss of the ending, rather than anything good about the series.

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* MoralEventHorizon: The Ruve of the first timeline sails across this as the first chapters of the novel and webcomic depicts his abuse of Aristia in detail. He neglects Aristia, rapes her, hits her, preemptively disowns her child, kills her father, torments her with his death and finally kills her. This while Aristia and her father support and help him unconditionally (she manages the kingdom and he leads his knights). It's one hell of an EstablishingCharacterMoment and likely contributes to the reaction many readers had once they learn the ending that [[spoiler:Aristia ends up with Ruve in the new timeline, which opened up a can of worms and puts Ruve in a BaseBreakingCharacter position]].
* OvershadowedByControversy: No matter the good art or story, most discussions will only have people discuss of the ending, rather than anything good about the series.
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* BrokenBase: The massive complaint and argument that is bound to be found when talking about ''The Abandoned Empress'' is the ending. Specifically, the fact that [[spoiler:Aristia ends up with Ruve]]. This caused many a reader to stop reading after they found out about the ending [[spoiler:due to the abuse that the original Ruve had put on her and believe that even if he changed in the new timeline, they don't accept it as it comes across as an Unfortunate Implications that Tia ends up with the man who abused her in the past (I.E, the original timeline), and would rather have Tia be paired with Carsein or Allendis]]. However, there is a second party who are accepting it with the argument that [[spoiler:Aristia is paired with a Ruve who changed and end up being kinder towards her due to ForWantOfANail effects in play, and shouldn't be held accountable for the actions of the original timeline Ruve, considering them as different individuals]]. Then there's the middle ground: [[spoiler:those who find the fact uncomfortable but still continue to read despite knowing that regardless to see how the webcomic adaptation handles this and eventually accepting how the matter is handled or they don't]].

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The massive complaint and argument that is bound to be found when talking about ''The Abandoned Empress'' is the ending. Specifically, the fact that [[spoiler:Aristia ends up with Ruve]]. This caused many a reader to stop reading after they found out about the ending [[spoiler:due to the abuse that the original Ruve had put on her and believe that even if he changed in the new timeline, they don't accept it as it comes across as an Unfortunate Implications that Tia ends up with the man who abused her in the past (I.E, the original timeline), and would rather have Tia be paired with Carsein or Allendis]]. However, there is a second party who are accepting it with the argument that [[spoiler:Aristia is paired with a Ruve who changed and end up being kinder towards her due to ForWantOfANail effects in play, and shouldn't be held accountable for the actions of the original timeline Ruve, considering them as different individuals]]. Then there's the middle ground: [[spoiler:those who find the fact uncomfortable but still continue to read despite knowing that regardless to see how the webcomic adaptation handles this and eventually accepting how the matter is handled or they don't]].
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* BrokenBase: The massive complaint and argument that is bound to be found when talking about ''The Abandoned Empress'' is the ending. Specifically, the fact that [[spoiler:Aristia ends up with Ruve]]. This caused many a reader to stop reading after they found out about the ending [[spoiler:due to the abuse that the original Ruve had put on her and believe that even if he changed in the new timeline, they don't accept it as it comes across as an UnfortunateImplications that Tia ends up with the man who abused her in the past (I.E, the original timeline), and would rather have Tia be paired with Carsein or Allendis]]. However, there is a second party who are accepting it with the argument that [[spoiler:Aristia is paired with a Ruve who changed and end up being kinder towards her due to ForWantOfANail effects in play, and shouldn't be held accountable for the actions of the original timeline Ruve, considering them as different individuals]]. Then there's the middle ground: [[spoiler:those who find the fact uncomfortable but still continue to read despite knowing that regardless to see how the webcomic adaptation handles this and eventually accepting how the matter is handled or they don't]].

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* BrokenBase: The massive complaint and argument that is bound to be found when talking about ''The Abandoned Empress'' is the ending. Specifically, the fact that [[spoiler:Aristia ends up with Ruve]]. This caused many a reader to stop reading after they found out about the ending [[spoiler:due to the abuse that the original Ruve had put on her and believe that even if he changed in the new timeline, they don't accept it as it comes across as an UnfortunateImplications Unfortunate Implications that Tia ends up with the man who abused her in the past (I.E, the original timeline), and would rather have Tia be paired with Carsein or Allendis]]. However, there is a second party who are accepting it with the argument that [[spoiler:Aristia is paired with a Ruve who changed and end up being kinder towards her due to ForWantOfANail effects in play, and shouldn't be held accountable for the actions of the original timeline Ruve, considering them as different individuals]]. Then there's the middle ground: [[spoiler:those who find the fact uncomfortable but still continue to read despite knowing that regardless to see how the webcomic adaptation handles this and eventually accepting how the matter is handled or they don't]].

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