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* MemeticLoser: Once Teto got her SynthV voicebank, Genbu quickly gained this reputation among the Talkloid community, being treated as just a punching bag for Teto to abuse and commit crimes against as she pleased.

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* MemeticLoser: Once Teto got her SynthV [=SynthV=] voicebank, Genbu quickly gained this reputation among the Talkloid community, being treated as just a punching bag for Teto to abuse and commit crimes against as she pleased.
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* MemeticLoser: Once Teto got her SynthV voicebank, Genbu quickly gained this reputation among the Talkloid community, being treated as just a punching bag for Teto to abuse and commit crimes against as she pleased.

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** Kevin was immediately meme'd on after his release for his [[AerithAndBob rather average name]] compared to the other Dreamtonics banks at the time, but became popular for precisely this reason.

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** Kevin was immediately meme'd on after his release for his [[AerithAndBob rather average name]] compared to the other Dreamtonics banks at the time, but became popular for precisely this reason. Him being one of the more versatile Dreamtonics banks certainly helps.


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* FanNickname: A decent portion of the fanbase collectively refers to the Dreamtonics banks as "(the) Letters" due to them all being represented by an initial rather than a traditional character image.
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* HilariousInHindsight: A fandom in-joke involved [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao3oW5QP-w8 taking Genbu's voicebank and changing his parameters]] to make him sound like the Music/{{UTAU}} voicebank Kasane Teto. On April 2nd, 2023, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yxxqnzcwB0 Kasane Teto's Youtube channel released videos announcing a real Synthesizer V voicebank for Teto.]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfvUvebf5k8 Fans noticed and made videos comparing]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u73-xSqFruE and pairing]] Genbu's Teto impression and Teto's genuine Synthesizer V bank.
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** There is a debate over the direction taken with Dreamtonics' voicebanks (barring Eleanor Forte) and whether or not they should have had mascots. One side argues that Dreamtonics' voicebank line is fine without them, as like the VY line in VOCALOID, they are meant to be judged mainly on vocal quality rather than from the appearance of a mascot, as well as giving creators the ability to assign any kind of appearance they want if they so choose. On the other hand, others argue that mascots have been a marketing tactic for vocal synthesizers for a reason as they give a user an image for the voicebank at first glance and make them more memorable (often citing Miku and the memetic design for Kevin as examples), and that the lack of avatars beyond stylized letters plus the sheer number of voices make the voicebanks hard to get attached to in comparison to other characters. The arguments can get heated, especially over places such as Twitter.

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** There is a debate over the direction taken with Dreamtonics' voicebanks (barring Eleanor Forte) and whether or not they should have had mascots. One side argues that Dreamtonics' voicebank line is fine without them, as like the VY line in VOCALOID, they are meant to be judged mainly on vocal quality rather than from the appearance of a mascot, as well as giving creators the ability to assign any kind of appearance they want if they so choose. On the other hand, others argue that mascots have been a marketing tactic for vocal synthesizers for a reason as they give a user an image for the voicebank at first glance and make them more memorable (often citing Miku and the memetic design for Kevin as examples), and that the lack of avatars beyond stylized letters plus the sheer number of voices make the voicebanks hard to get attached to in comparison to other characters. And even the VY series still had items representing the characters instead of just plain letters. The arguments can get heated, especially over places such as Twitter.
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This is mostly due to several companies who were formerly associated with Vocaloid like AH-Software and Quadimension moving their characters to the platform, making it highly unlikely they will see future VOCALOID voicebanks. Not to mention the overall cheapness of the program in comparison to the highly expensive [=VOCALOID5=] and [=VOCALOID6=], with many fans already praising the program for being better than its competitor.

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**With Vocaloid.
This is mostly due to several companies who were formerly associated with Vocaloid like AH-Software and Quadimension moving their characters to the platform, making it highly unlikely they will see future VOCALOID voicebanks. Not to mention the overall cheapness of the program in comparison to the highly expensive [=VOCALOID5=] and [=VOCALOID6=], with many fans already praising the program for being better than its competitor.

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* FandomEnragingMisconception:
** It's best if you don't confuse [=SynthVs=] with Vocaloids or any of its other competitors - you will be swiftly corrected.
** Though Synthesizer V uses AI-based technology, it has nothing to do with AI art. While [=SynthV=] pays the people it uses for its voicebanks, AI art frequently does not, leading to art being stolen from creators and used without their consent.
* FandomRivalry: With Vocaloid. This is mostly due to several companies who were formerly associated with Vocaloid like AH-Software and Quadimension moving their characters to the platform, making it highly unlikely they will see future VOCALOID voicebanks. Not to mention the overall cheapness of the program in comparison to the highly expensive [=VOCALOID5=] and [=VOCALOID6=], with many fans already praising the program for being better than its competitor.

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FandomEnragingMisconception: It's best if you don't confuse [=SynthVs=] with Vocaloids or any of its other competitors - you will be swiftly corrected.
** Though Synthesizer V uses AI-based technology, it has nothing to do with AI art. While [=SynthV=] pays the people it uses for its voicebanks, AI art frequently does not, leading to art being stolen from creators and used without their consent.
* FandomRivalry: With Vocaloid.
This is mostly due to several companies who were formerly associated with Vocaloid like AH-Software and Quadimension moving their characters to the platform, making it highly unlikely they will see future VOCALOID voicebanks. Not to mention the overall cheapness of the program in comparison to the highly expensive [=VOCALOID5=] and [=VOCALOID6=], with many fans already praising the program for being better than its competitor.
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** It's best if you don't confuse [=SynthVs=] with Vocaloids or any of it's other competitors - you will be swiftly corrected.

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** It's best if you don't confuse [=SynthVs=] with Vocaloids or any of it's its other competitors - you will be swiftly corrected.



* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: Most voicebanks the program has (especially the ones Dreamtonics releases) can sound similar, leaning towards a softer timbre with a paler tone in higher ranges. This is great if you're making softer, quieter music, but means you have limited options if you want to produce louder, more powerful songs.

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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: ItsTheSameNowItSucks: Most voicebanks the program has (especially the ones Dreamtonics releases) can sound similar, leaning towards a softer timbre with a paler tone in higher ranges. This is great if you're making softer, quieter music, but means you have limited options if you want to produce louder, more powerful songs.
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** Though Synthesizer V uses AI-based technology, it has nothing to do with AI art. While [=SynthV=] pays the people it uses for its voicebanks, AI art frequently does not, leading to art being stolen from creators and used without their consent.

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** There is a debate over the direction taken with Dreamtonics' voicebanks (barring Eleanor Forte) and whether or not they should have had mascots. One side argues that Dreamtonics' voicebank line is fine without them, as like the VY line in VOCALOID, they are meant to be judged mainly on vocal quality rather than from the appearance of a mascot, as well as giving creators the ability to assign any kind of appearance they want if they so choose. On the other hand, others argue that mascots have been a marketing tactic for vocal synthesizers for a reason as they give a user an image for the voicebank at first glance and make them more memorable (often citing Miku and the memetic design for Kevin as examples), and that the lack of avatars beyond stylized letters plus the sheer number of voices make the voicebanks hard to get attached to in comparison to other characters. The arguments can get heated, especially over places such as Twitter.



** Kevin was immediately meme'd on after his release for his name, but became popular for precisely this reason.

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** Kevin was immediately meme'd on after his release for his name, [[AerithAndBob rather average name]] compared to the other Dreamtonics banks at the time, but became popular for precisely this reason.



* FandomEnragingMisconception: It's best if you don't confuse [=SynthVs=] with Vocaloids - you will be swiftly corrected.

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It's best if you don't confuse [=SynthVs=] with Vocaloids or any of it's other competitors - you will be swiftly corrected.
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** Of the Dreamtonics faceless voicebanks, Yuma seems to have a particularly large following due to his cute {{Keet}}-ish voice.
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** Many users had trouble with the program after the release of 1.7.0, claiming it diminished the quality of some voicebanks like Solaria and produced inconsistent results. It got so bad that Tsuina-chan's official Twitter asked users of her voicebank to hold off on updating her, and Eclipsed Sounds recommended users finish and save current projects before downloading the new update since "this update does change certain behaviors". The problem stems from the High Dynamics Vocal Models feature, which completely changes how the voices in the program are synthesized and, importantly, '''cannot be opted out of unless you completely revert the program back to previous versions.''' Fortunately Eclipsed Sounds and AHS both have previous builds saved where users can redownload them.

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** Many users had trouble with the program after the release of 1.7.0, claiming it diminished the quality of some voicebanks like Solaria and produced inconsistent results. It got so bad that Tsuina-chan's official Twitter asked users of her voicebank to hold off on updating her, and Eclipsed Sounds recommended users finish and save current projects before downloading the new update since "this update does change certain behaviors". The problem stems from the High Dynamics Vocal Models feature, which completely changes how the voices in the program are synthesized and, importantly, '''cannot be opted out of unless you completely revert the program back to previous versions.''' Fortunately Eclipsed Sounds and AHS both have previous builds saved where users can redownload them.them, and HDVM was replaced with Diffusion Probabilistic Models (DPM) in 1.8.0, which so far has been received more positively.



* FandomRivalry: With Vocaloid. This is mostly due to several companies who were formerly associated with Vocaloid like AH-Software and Quadimension moving their characters to the platform, making it highly unlikely they will see future VOCALOID voicebanks. Not to mention the overall cheapness of the program in comparison to the highly expensive [=VOCALOID5=], with many fans already praising the program for being better than its predecessor - which unfortunately steps on the toes of those who still look forward to future [=VOCALOIDs=].

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* FandomRivalry: With Vocaloid. This is mostly due to several companies who were formerly associated with Vocaloid like AH-Software and Quadimension moving their characters to the platform, making it highly unlikely they will see future VOCALOID voicebanks. Not to mention the overall cheapness of the program in comparison to the highly expensive [=VOCALOID5=], [=VOCALOID5=] and [=VOCALOID6=], with many fans already praising the program for being better than its predecessor - which unfortunately steps on the toes of those who still look forward to future [=VOCALOIDs=].competitor.
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* ItsTheSameSoItSucks: Most voicebanks the program has (especially the ones Dreamtonics releases) can sound similar, leaning towards a softer timbre with a paler tone in higher ranges. This is great if you're making softer, quieter music, but means you have limited options if you want to produce louder, more powerful songs.
** This was also a criticism of ANRI's vocal modes when they released.
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** Many users had trouble with the program after the release of 1.7.0, claiming it diminished the quality of some voicebanks like Solaria and produced inconsistent results. It got so bad that Tsuina-chan's official Twitter asked users of her voicebank to hold off on updating her, and Eclipsed Sounds recommended users finish and save current projects before downloading the new update since "this update does change certain behaviors".

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** Many users had trouble with the program after the release of 1.7.0, claiming it diminished the quality of some voicebanks like Solaria and produced inconsistent results. It got so bad that Tsuina-chan's official Twitter asked users of her voicebank to hold off on updating her, and Eclipsed Sounds recommended users finish and save current projects before downloading the new update since "this update does change certain behaviors". The problem stems from the High Dynamics Vocal Models feature, which completely changes how the voices in the program are synthesized and, importantly, '''cannot be opted out of unless you completely revert the program back to previous versions.''' Fortunately Eclipsed Sounds and AHS both have previous builds saved where users can redownload them.

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* BrokenBase: While the Kotonohas have been pretty well-received overall, some have taken issue with the fact that their voices have been blended into a single voicebank rather than as separate voicebanks packaged together a la Kagamine Rin and Len or anon & kanon. While it's possible to create "Aoi's" voice or "Akane's" voice by playing with the voice settings, some have preferred that they be separate banks since they were already separate banks and characters in VOICEROID.

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While the Kotonohas have been pretty well-received overall, some have taken issue with the fact that their voices have been blended into a single voicebank rather than as separate voicebanks packaged together a la Kagamine Rin and Len or anon & kanon. While it's possible to create "Aoi's" voice or "Akane's" voice by playing with the voice settings, some have preferred that they be separate banks since they were already separate banks and characters in VOICEROID.


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** Many users had trouble with the program after the release of 1.7.0, claiming it diminished the quality of some voicebanks like Solaria and produced inconsistent results. It got so bad that Tsuina-chan's official Twitter asked users of her voicebank to hold off on updating her, and Eclipsed Sounds recommended users finish and save current projects before downloading the new update since "this update does change certain behaviors".
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* UncannyValley: Some people have reported getting this feeling from the vocals in [=SynthV=], due to how realistic they really are - some find it difficult to actually tell if it's a real singer or not, especially with the added smoothness of the AI vocals.

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* UncannyValley: UnintentionalUncannyValley: Some people have reported getting this feeling from the vocals in [=SynthV=], due to how realistic they really are - some find it difficult to actually tell if it's a real singer or not, especially with the added smoothness of the AI vocals.
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** With [=CeVIO=] to a lesser degree, with most of the arguing being about how each program's AI technology and features hold up in comparison to one another. Not helping matters is the very sudden rise of characters like KAFU, who briefly overtook the vocal synth scene at her release even with the additions of new SynthV characters like Eleanor AI or Koharu Rikka.

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** With [=CeVIO=] to a lesser degree, with most of the arguing being about how each program's AI technology and features hold up in comparison to one another. Not helping matters is the very sudden rise of characters like KAFU, who briefly overtook the vocal synth scene at her release even with the additions of new SynthV [=SynthV=] characters like Eleanor AI or Koharu Rikka.
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** With the announcement of SynthesizerV AI Gold's focus on appealing to "professional musicians", some worry that Synthesizer V is following the path [[{{Music/Vocaloid}} Vocaloid 5]] went - that is, alienating their fanbase to appeal to professional musicians.

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** With the announcement of SynthesizerV Synthesizer V AI Gold's focus on appealing to "professional musicians", some worry that Synthesizer V is following the path [[{{Music/Vocaloid}} Vocaloid 5]] went - that is, alienating their fanbase to appeal to professional musicians.

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ANRI was released before Solaria.


** With the announcement of SynthesizerV AI Gold's focus on appealing to "professional musicians", some worry that Synthesizer V is following the path [[{{Music/Vocaloid}} Vocaloid 5]] went - that is, alienating their fanbase to appeal to professional musicians.



** SOLARIA also became popular pretty quickly for her gorgeous box and character illustrations, sun goddess-themed design and powerful voice. It helps that she was the first new English voicebank released for the software since Eleanor.

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** SOLARIA also became popular pretty quickly for her gorgeous box and character illustrations, sun goddess-themed design and powerful voice. It helps that she was the first new English voicebank released for the software since Eleanor.



** Kevin was immediately meme'd on after his release for his name, but became popular for precisely this reason.



** With [=CeVIO=] to a lesser degree, with most of the arguing being about how each program's AI technology and features hold up in comparison to one another. Not helping matters is the very sudden rise of characters like KAFU, who has largely overtaken the vocal synth scene even with the additions of new SynthV characters like Eleanor AI or Koharu Rikka.

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** With [=CeVIO=] to a lesser degree, with most of the arguing being about how each program's AI technology and features hold up in comparison to one another. Not helping matters is the very sudden rise of characters like KAFU, who has largely overtaken briefly overtook the vocal synth scene at her release even with the additions of new SynthV characters like Eleanor AI or Koharu Rikka.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: [[TheFaceless The faceless]] Dreamtonics vocals (Saki, Qing Su, Mo Chen, Kevin, Ryo, and An Xiao) are often regarded as being successors to the VY line of vocals from VOCALOID, being avatarless vocals who consist of two feminine vocals and two masculine ones.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: [[TheFaceless The faceless]] Dreamtonics vocals (Saki, (such as Saki, Qing Su, Mo Chen, Kevin, Ryo, and An Xiao) Kevin) are often regarded as being successors to the VY line of vocals from VOCALOID, being avatarless vocals who consist with no character outside of two feminine vocals their perceived gender and two masculine ones.voice type.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: [[TheFaceless The Faceless]] Dreamtonics vocals (Saki, Qing Su, Mo Chen, Kevin, Ryo, and An Xiao) are often regarded as being successors to the VY line of vocals from VOCALOID, being avatarless vocals who consist of two feminine vocals and two masculine ones.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: [[TheFaceless The Faceless]] faceless]] Dreamtonics vocals (Saki, Qing Su, Mo Chen, Kevin, Ryo, and An Xiao) are often regarded as being successors to the VY line of vocals from VOCALOID, being avatarless vocals who consist of two feminine vocals and two masculine ones.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Saki, Qingsu, Ryo, and Kevin are often regarded as being successors to the VY line of vocals from VOCALOID, being avatarless vocals who consist of two feminine vocals and two masculine ones.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: Saki, Qingsu, [[TheFaceless The Faceless]] Dreamtonics vocals (Saki, Qing Su, Mo Chen, Kevin, Ryo, and Kevin An Xiao) are often regarded as being successors to the VY line of vocals from VOCALOID, being avatarless vocals who consist of two feminine vocals and two masculine ones.
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* FandomRivalry: With Vocaloid. This is mostly due to several companies who were formerly associated with Vocaloid like AH-Software and Quadimension moving their characters to the platform, making it highly unlikely they will see future VOCALOID voicebanks. Not to mention the overall cheapness of the program in comparison to the highly expensive VOCALOID5, with many fans already praising the program for being better than its predecessor - which unfortunately steps on the toes of those who still look forward to future VOCALOIDs.

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* FandomRivalry: With Vocaloid. This is mostly due to several companies who were formerly associated with Vocaloid like AH-Software and Quadimension moving their characters to the platform, making it highly unlikely they will see future VOCALOID voicebanks. Not to mention the overall cheapness of the program in comparison to the highly expensive VOCALOID5, [=VOCALOID5=], with many fans already praising the program for being better than its predecessor - which unfortunately steps on the toes of those who still look forward to future VOCALOIDs.[=VOCALOIDs=].
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Like with [[{{Music/Vocaloid}} VOCALOID]], the characters are liable to be interpreted in any which way regardless of whether they have officially stated lore. Most companies encourage this to broaden creativity.
* BrokenBase: While the Kotonohas have been pretty well-received overall, some have taken issue with the fact that their voices have been blended into a single voicebank rather than as separate voicebanks packaged together a la Kagamine Rin and Len or anon & kanon. While it's possible to create "Aoi's" voice or "Akane's" voice by playing with the voice settings, some have preferred that they be separate banks since they were already separate banks and characters in VOICEROID.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Eleanor Forte still remains extremely popular beyond her status as the first English [=SynthV=] for her cool and elegant design and extremely clear English that even VOCALOID has trouble matching up to.
** SOLARIA also became popular pretty quickly for her gorgeous box and character illustrations, sun goddess-themed design and powerful voice. It helps that she was the first new English voicebank released for the software since Eleanor.
** The [=Medium5=] characters have also been quite recognized both in their home country and out of it for their beautiful elemental-themed designs and interesting lore with VOCALOID Xingchen.
* FandomEnragingMisconception: It's best if you don't confuse [=SynthVs=] with Vocaloids - you will be swiftly corrected.
* FandomRivalry: With Vocaloid. This is mostly due to several companies who were formerly associated with Vocaloid like AH-Software and Quadimension moving their characters to the platform, making it highly unlikely they will see future VOCALOID voicebanks. Not to mention the overall cheapness of the program in comparison to the highly expensive VOCALOID5, with many fans already praising the program for being better than its predecessor - which unfortunately steps on the toes of those who still look forward to future VOCALOIDs.
** With [=CeVIO=] to a lesser degree, with most of the arguing being about how each program's AI technology and features hold up in comparison to one another. Not helping matters is the very sudden rise of characters like KAFU, who has largely overtaken the vocal synth scene even with the additions of new SynthV characters like Eleanor AI or Koharu Rikka.
* FriendlyFandoms: Also with the above two fandoms, with most fans of Vocaloid or [=CeVIO=] extending to be fans of [=SynthV=].
* SpiritualSuccessor: Saki, Qingsu, Ryo, and Kevin are often regarded as being successors to the VY line of vocals from VOCALOID, being avatarless vocals who consist of two feminine vocals and two masculine ones.
* UncannyValley: Some people have reported getting this feeling from the vocals in [=SynthV=], due to how realistic they really are - some find it difficult to actually tell if it's a real singer or not, especially with the added smoothness of the AI vocals.

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