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* GameBreaker: Because the Press Turn System grants allies/enemies an extra turn (and possibly smirk) whenever an attack gets nullified/absorbed/missed, Tetrakarn and Marakarn can become this for both sides. If it's yours, you'll be guaranteed near-safe passage everywhere.
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** Except don't expect the game to let you go with this strategy for long.
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fanbase; some people ''love'' them for being way closer to the bizarre, eldritch descriptions of the Bible, others hate them for looking ''nothing'' like any other SMT design.
** Changes to classic NintendoHard elements of the franchise, such as now being able to [[SaveScumming save at anytime]].time]] (and certain elements of the game almost seeming to ''encourage'' doing so).
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** Also the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tst1m8UcDaY&list=FLg7Yw0vxIr5Ze_DZek8nTPw&index=5 Boss Theme]].
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* BiasSteamroller: While the game still got good scores in America, the game was often compared to the ''Persona'' series, with reviewers concluding that the story and characters are bland as a result.
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** The fact that the Archangels are DLC battles instead of being in the main game earned some ire.
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False assumption: East Mikado is filled with demons too, that\'s why the Samurai exist. / Repair Dont Respond, if you feel an entry needs a Justifying Edit, just delete it instead.
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** Of course the Black Samurai has been revealed to be giving books to East Mikado in order to make them think for themselves, and suggests that there's something more to it than what is seen.
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* ThatOneAttack: [[StrangeJourney Macca Beam]] is back!
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series has had multiple difficulty settings for ages, so not sure that one\'s really a base breaker.
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** Likewise, the radical new style for several plot-important demons [[spoiler:longtime Megaten standbys Asmodeus, Raphael, Omoikane, and newcomers like Koga Saburo and Kuebiko]], envisioned by several notable ''KamenRider'' character and monster designers, have harshly segmented the fanbase, with the vocal majority opposing them for being visually and thematically different from Kaneko's usual depictions.
** Likewise, the radical new style for several plot-important demons [[spoiler:longtime Megaten standbys Asmodeus, Raphael, Omoikane, and newcomers like Koga Saburo and Kuebiko]], envisioned by several notable ''KamenRider'' character and monster designers, have harshly segmented the fanbase, with the vocal majority opposing them for being visually and thematically different from Kaneko's usual depictions.
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** Likewise, the radical new style for several plot-important demons [[spoiler:longtime Megaten standbys Asmodeus, Raphael, Omoikane, and newcomers like Koga Saburo and Kuebiko]], envisioned by several notable ''KamenRider'' character and monster designers, have harshly segmented the fanbase, with the vocal majority opposing them for being visually and thematically different from Kaneko's usual depictions.
** Likewise, the radical new style for several plot-important demons [[spoiler:longtime Megaten standbys Asmodeus, Raphael, Omoikane, and newcomers like Koga Saburo and Kuebiko]], envisioned by several notable ''KamenRider'' character and monster designers, have harshly segmented the fanbase, with the vocal majority opposing them for being visually and thematically different from Kaneko's usual depictions.
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* BrokenBase: Some people are crying foul at Atlus because of their decision to release the game on the [=3DS=] instead of on the [=PS3=], 360, or even the Vita.
** The base seems to have been broken further with the reveal in the Sept. 17th trailer that despite the field sections being in 3D, battles will remain in 2D in a similar way as ''StrangeJourney''. Many were expecting full 3D models like ''[[ShinMegamiTenseiNocturne Nocturne]]''.
** Many fans are... apprehensive to say the least about the loss of Kazuma Kaneko on art and character designs.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Inevitable. We already have the game's [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GamRLR0QrG0 Main Theme]].
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some people's reactions to [[VideoGame/TraumaCenter Masayuki Doi]] as character designer instead of series regular Kazuma Kaneko.
** The base seems to have been broken further with the reveal in the Sept. 17th trailer that despite the field sections being in 3D, battles will remain in 2D in a similar way as ''StrangeJourney''. Many were expecting full 3D models like ''[[ShinMegamiTenseiNocturne Nocturne]]''.
** Many fans are... apprehensive to say the least about the loss of Kazuma Kaneko on art and character designs.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Inevitable. We already have the game's [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GamRLR0QrG0 Main Theme]].
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** The title being a [=3DS=] game, instead ofon the a [=PS3=], 360, 360 or even the Vita.
Vita one.
**The base seems to have been broken further with the reveal in the Sept. 17th trailer that despite the field sections Battles being in 3D, battles will remain 2D like ''StrangeJourney'', instead of in 2D in a similar way as ''StrangeJourney''. Many were expecting full 3D models like ''[[ShinMegamiTenseiNocturne ''[[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne Nocturne]]''.
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Kaneko]].
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just the guy who redrew the psp remakes, not 3 and 4
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someone please clean write this. I suck at entries, I know
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natter. reason base is broken is the platform, don\'t need commentary on why they\'re wrong
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