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* DesignatedHero: Paul is an antagonist, but he is treated as a [[TheRival rival]] rather than an outright villain. This is despite his cruel treatment of his Pokemon, even though previous seasons treat trainers abusing their Pokemon as acts of villainy. In particular, there is him abandoning his Chimchar for defeats that were entirely his fault [[note]][[{{Hypocrite}} this in spite of Paul preaching that defeats the trainer's faul]][[/note]], an act which is treated as a MoralEventHorizon [[Recap/PokemonS1E11CharmanderTheStrayPokemon in the generation 1 anime]], yet Paul suffers no punishment for this act.
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** Elite Four: [[{{Meganekko}} Lorelei]], [[RatedMForManly Bruno]], [[CoolOldLady Agatha and Bertha]], and [[CoolOldGuy Drake]].
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* DesignatedHero: Paul is an antagonist, but he is treated as a [[TheRival rival]] rather than an outright villain. This is despite his cruel treatment of his Pokemon, even though previous seasons treat trainers abusing their Pokemon as acts of villainy. In particular, there is him abandoning his Chimchar for defeats that were entirely his fault [[note]][[{{Hypocrite}} this in spite of Paul preaching that defeats the trainer's faul]][[/note]], an act which is treated as a MoralEventHorizon [[Recap/PokemonS1E11CharmanderTheStrayPokemon in the generation 1 anime]], yet Paul suffers no punishment for this act.
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Vindicated By History only applies if the work is considered genuinely good, not just "not that bad".
** While ''Black and White'' remains one of, if not ''the'' [[AudienceAlienatingEra least favored by fans]], there has been an increase in support over time from those who don't find it to be ''that'' bad and give credit to its positives, sometimes even improvements over the previous ones. These include a decrease in the formula used for {{filler}} episodes, Team Rocket not appearing in every episode, Team Rocket being more competent, well-received {{story arc}}s such as the Meloetta arc and the Don George {{Tournament Arc}}s, and a large, colorful cast of rivals for the main trio. It helps that several of these trends were carried over and used to even greater effect in later series. Defenders will often claim that it is still mostly enjoyable as a standalone ''Pokémon'' series -- while it largely falls apart when directly comparing it to the previous ones (especially ''Diamond and Pearl''), there's good to be found when judging it solely on its own merits.
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** The ''Orange Islands'' arc was originally disregarded as {{Filler}} that didn't really amount to anything since the Gym challenges weren't always actual battles and the League itself wasn't based on an in-game region. Nowadays, whenever a debate starts concerning Ash's competence as a trainer, people will often mention it immediately, since his victory there technically means Ash qualifies for the title of Champion, and that also marks the first real sign of his growth as a Pokémon Trainer. It is also pointed out that the Orange Islands brought several fan-favorites such as Ash's Lapras, Ash's Snorlax, and the Crystal Onix, and that the battle between Ash and Drake was the series' first full battle. Its deviations from the usual gym formula were also viewed more favourably after the series' long run of StrictlyFormula, especially after the anime more routinely began deviating with similar new premises.
** More fans overtime have been starting to consider the controversial ''Black and White'' series an example of this trope. While it did several things wrong, particularly with Ash, it also did several things right that have continued to be done to great effect in the subsequent ''XY'' and ''Sun and Moon'' series - namely, a better series structure and pace, a more faithful rendition of the region from the video games, the regular formula for {{Filler}} episodes being mostly dropped in favor of more inventive situations, Team Rocket not appearing in every episode and not [[SpotlightStealingSquad taking up too much unneeded time]] in episodes they do appear in, attempts to give the male companion a broader dynamic within the main group than [[OutOfFocus Brock]], Team Rocket [[NotSoHarmlessVillain being given more developed arc roles or competent moments]], and introducing much longer [[StoryArc story arcs]] (the Meloetta arc and the ''Episode N'' arc) which were the predecessors to the ''Z'' arc of ''XY'' and the Cosmog arc of ''Sun and Moon''. Some will argue there were even things that it did better than other series, such as a more even group dynamic and the actual Team Rocket organisation being the BigBad at last. Essentially, it is viewed as the reverse of FranchiseOriginalSin - even if it is not considered good overall, it originated many popular trends used in subsequent entries in the series.
** The ''Orange Islands'' arc was originally disregarded as {{Filler}} that didn't really amount to anything since the Gym challenges weren't always actual battles and the League itself wasn't based on an in-game region. Nowadays, whenever a debate starts concerning Ash's competence as a trainer, people will often mention it immediately, since his victory there technically means Ash qualifies for the title of Champion, and that also marks the first real sign of his growth as a Pokémon Trainer. It is also pointed out that the Orange Islands brought several fan-favorites such as Ash's Lapras, Ash's Snorlax, and the Crystal Onix, and that the battle between Ash and Drake was the series' first full battle. Its deviations from the usual gym formula were also viewed more favourably after the series' long run of StrictlyFormula, especially after the anime more routinely began deviating with similar new premises.
** More fans overtime have been starting to consider the controversial ''Black and White'' series an example of this trope. While it did several things wrong, particularly with Ash, it also did several things right that have continued to be done to great effect in the subsequent ''XY'' and ''Sun and Moon'' series - namely, a better series structure and pace, a more faithful rendition of the region from the video games, the regular formula for {{Filler}} episodes being mostly dropped in favor of more inventive situations, Team Rocket not appearing in every episode and not [[SpotlightStealingSquad taking up too much unneeded time]] in episodes they do appear in, attempts to give the male companion a broader dynamic within the main group than [[OutOfFocus Brock]], Team Rocket [[NotSoHarmlessVillain being given more developed arc roles or competent moments]], and introducing much longer [[StoryArc story arcs]] (the Meloetta arc and the ''Episode N'' arc) which were the predecessors to the ''Z'' arc of ''XY'' and the Cosmog arc of ''Sun and Moon''. Some will argue there were even things that it did better than other series, such as a more even group dynamic and the actual Team Rocket organisation being the BigBad at last. Essentially, it is viewed as the reverse of FranchiseOriginalSin - even if it is not considered good overall, it originated many popular trends used in subsequent entries in the series.
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**VindicatedByHistory: The ''Orange Islands'' arc was originally disregarded as {{Filler}} that didn't really amount to anything since the Gym challenges weren't always actual battles and the League itself wasn't based on an in-game region. Nowadays, whenever a debate starts concerning Ash's competence as a trainer, people will often mention it immediately, since his victory there technically means Ash qualifies for the title of Champion, and that also marks the first real sign of his growth as a Pokémon Trainer. It is also pointed out that the Orange Islands brought several fan-favorites such as Ash's Lapras, Ash's Snorlax, and the Crystal Onix, and that the battle between Ash and Drake was the series' first full battle. Its deviations from the usual gym formula were also viewed more favourably after the series' long run of StrictlyFormula, especially after the anime more routinely began deviating with similar new premises.
** More fans overtime have been starting to consider the controversial ''Black and White'' series an example of this trope. While it did several things wrong, particularly with Ash, it also did several things right that have continued to be done to great effect in the subsequent ''XY'' and ''Sun and Moon'' series - namely, a better series structure and pace, a more faithful rendition of the region from the video games, the regular formula for {{Filler}} episodes being mostly dropped in favor of more inventive situations, Team Rocket not appearing in every episode and not [[SpotlightStealingSquad taking up too much unneeded time]] in episodes they do appear in, attempts to give the male companion a broader dynamic within the main group than [[OutOfFocus Brock]], Team Rocket [[NotSoHarmlessVillain being given more developed arc roles or competent moments]], and introducing much longer [[StoryArc story arcs]] (the Meloetta arc and the ''Episode N'' arc) which were the predecessors to the ''Z'' arc of ''XY'' and the Cosmog arc of ''Sun and Moon''. Some will argue there were even things that it did better than other series, such as a more even group dynamic and the actual Team Rocket organisation being the BigBad at last. Essentially, it is viewed as the reverse of FranchiseOriginalSin - even if it is not considered good overall, it originated many popular trends used in subsequent entries in the series.premises.
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** More fans overtime have been starting to consider the controversial ''Black and White'' series an example of this trope. While it did several things wrong, particularly with Ash, it also did several things right that have continued to be done to great effect in the subsequent ''XY'' and ''Sun and Moon'' series - namely, a better series structure and pace, a more faithful rendition of the region from the video games, the regular formula for {{Filler}} episodes being mostly dropped in favor of more inventive situations, Team Rocket not appearing in every episode and not [[SpotlightStealingSquad taking up too much unneeded time]] in episodes they do appear in, attempts to give the male companion a broader dynamic within the main group than [[OutOfFocus Brock]], Team Rocket [[NotSoHarmlessVillain being given more developed arc roles or competent moments]], and introducing much longer [[StoryArc story arcs]] (the Meloetta arc and the ''Episode N'' arc) which were the predecessors to the ''Z'' arc of ''XY'' and the Cosmog arc of ''Sun and Moon''. Some will argue there were even things that it did better than other series, such as a more even group dynamic and the actual Team Rocket organisation being the BigBad at last. Essentially, it is viewed as the reverse of FranchiseOriginalSin - even if it is not considered good overall, it originated many popular trends used in subsequent entries in the series.
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** Ash's quest ToBeAMaster has been going on for over ''twenty years'' now. Heck, he's [[NotAllowedToGrowUp still 10 years old]]; some say that he looks ''younger'' than when he started. It doesn't help that with each new arc he hits a ResetButton on his team, his Pikachu's level, his own experience as a trainer, and that he never catches particularly many Pokémon each region (if you consider that one of the qualities of a master, it's never clearly outlined). Compare this to Gary whom eventually quit his journey and got a job as an advanced Pokémon researcher under his grandfather's prestigious name reviving dinosaurs from fossils. [[spoiler:It takes him 22 years to finally win a Pokemon League Conference and even then, that's only the first step to becoming a Pokemon Master.]]
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** Brock's anime characteristics such as his love of "jelly donuts," his squinted eyes, his fondness for women, being able to tell each Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny apart, having his ear pulled for flirting with women by Misty then Max, and eventually being knocked out cold by Croagunk have all stood the test of Pokémon fandom time.
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** Brock's anime characteristics such as his love of "jelly "jelly-filled donuts," his squinted eyes, his fondness for women, being able to tell each Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny apart, having his ear pulled for flirting with women by Misty then Max, and eventually being knocked out cold by Croagunk have all stood the test of Pokémon fandom time.
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* MyRealDaddy: Creator/AtsuhiroTomioka, the head writer of the series from ''DP'' to ''XY'', is considered by many to be one of the best writers in the series. He's responsible for writing a massive number of the show's most beloved arcs and plotlines, including (but not limited to):
** A large number of May's [[ADayInTheLimelight major Contest episodes]], including the one where she chooses to be a Coordinator and the entirety of ''both'' Grand Festivals, among many others. He proceeded to write her entire [[TheBusCameBack return arc]] in ''Diamond and Pearl'', thus playing a key role in defining her as her own character, rather than the expected ReplacementGoldfish for Misty.
** A ''huge'' portion of plot-focused episodes from ''Diamond and Pearl.'' Much like May before her, he wrote a large number of Dawn's major Contests, including the vast majority of her overconfidence/depression arc (which culminates in her Wallace Cup battle against May herself), and almost every episode of the Grand Festival. He also wrote nearly ''every'' single episode that focused on either [[KnightOfCerebus Paul]] ''or'' [[VileVillainSaccharineShow Team Galactic]], which collectively make up almost all of the series' major plot threads.
** The first and last episodes of Dawn's return in ''Best Wishes'', as well as the Operation Tempest two-parter.
** ''Every one'' of the four Mega Evolution specials, and almost every episode building up Team Flare in ''XY&Z'', up to and including the ''entire'' 5-part Team Flare climax.
** Even in ''Sun and Moon'', where Tomioka is no longer the head writer, he wrote the majority of Litten's arc throughout the series, which is widely praised as one of the big highlights of the season.
** A large number of May's [[ADayInTheLimelight major Contest episodes]], including the one where she chooses to be a Coordinator and the entirety of ''both'' Grand Festivals, among many others. He proceeded to write her entire [[TheBusCameBack return arc]] in ''Diamond and Pearl'', thus playing a key role in defining her as her own character, rather than the expected ReplacementGoldfish for Misty.
** A ''huge'' portion of plot-focused episodes from ''Diamond and Pearl.'' Much like May before her, he wrote a large number of Dawn's major Contests, including the vast majority of her overconfidence/depression arc (which culminates in her Wallace Cup battle against May herself), and almost every episode of the Grand Festival. He also wrote nearly ''every'' single episode that focused on either [[KnightOfCerebus Paul]] ''or'' [[VileVillainSaccharineShow Team Galactic]], which collectively make up almost all of the series' major plot threads.
** The first and last episodes of Dawn's return in ''Best Wishes'', as well as the Operation Tempest two-parter.
** ''Every one'' of the four Mega Evolution specials, and almost every episode building up Team Flare in ''XY&Z'', up to and including the ''entire'' 5-part Team Flare climax.
** Even in ''Sun and Moon'', where Tomioka is no longer the head writer, he wrote the majority of Litten's arc throughout the series, which is widely praised as one of the big highlights of the season.
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** Creator/AtsuhiroTomioka, the head writer of the series from ''DP'' to ''XY'', is considered by many to be one of the best writers in the series. He's responsible for writing a massive number of the show's most beloved arcs and plotlines, including (but not limited to):
** *** A large number of May's [[ADayInTheLimelight major Contest episodes]], including the one where she chooses to be a Coordinator and the entirety of ''both'' Grand Festivals, among many others. He proceeded to write her entire [[TheBusCameBack return arc]] in ''Diamond and Pearl'', thus playing a key role in defining her as her own character, rather than the expected ReplacementGoldfish for Misty.
** *** A ''huge'' portion of plot-focused episodes from ''Diamond and Pearl.'' Much like May before her, he wrote a large number of Dawn's major Contests, including the vast majority of her overconfidence/depression arc (which culminates in her Wallace Cup battle against May herself), and almost every episode of the Grand Festival. He also wrote nearly ''every'' single episode that focused on either [[KnightOfCerebus Paul]] ''or'' [[VileVillainSaccharineShow Team Galactic]], which collectively make up almost all of the series' major plot threads.
** *** The first and last episodes of Dawn's return in ''Best Wishes'', as well as the Operation Tempest two-parter.
** *** ''Every one'' of the four Mega Evolution specials, and almost every episode building up Team Flare in ''XY&Z'', up to and including the ''entire'' 5-part Team Flare climax.
** *** Even in ''Sun and Moon'', where Tomioka is no longer the head writer, he wrote the majority of Litten's arc throughout the series, which is widely praised as one of the big highlights of the season.
** Creator/AtsuhiroTomioka, the head writer of the series from ''DP'' to ''XY'', is considered by many to be one of the best writers in the series. He's responsible for writing a massive number of the show's most beloved arcs and plotlines, including (but not limited to):
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** ''Pokémon'' is an interesting variation; at the time the series first went international, lack of development of the Internet made the raw Japanese versions of anime and comparisons with the dub (let alone {{Fansub}}s) not as easy to access in the West as they are now. So many fans [[IgnoranceIsBliss were not aware of any differences between the Japanese version of the anime and dubbed version]]. But then early 2000 (mid-Orange Islands) Dogasu's Backpack launched, whose biggest feature is an easy-to-use Japanese-to-dub comparison for Pokémon, basically "Yu-Gi-Oh Uncensored: Pokémon Edition". Within a few years, Creator/FourKidsEntertainment's banning and censorship of episodes like ''Beauty and the Beach'', music replacement, and radical editing of ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'' became common knowledge. Still, many still preferred the dub, and the otherwise-criticized [=4Kids=] [[SacredCow still gets a pass on Pokémon]], mostly because of the fact that it was actually one of their most faithful adaptations. So while the main series doesn't suffer much for it, a few episodes and movies have it quite bad - such as the first movie, with fans' perception of Mewtwo and the movie itself being affected by [=4Kids'=] changes, and the dub getting a dismal rating on Website/RottenTomatoes. Possibly justified due to [=4Kids'=] Michael Haigney [[http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/kanto/ep011.html admitting his]] cluelessness in regards to the series and [=4Kids'=] dub in general being aimed at a narrower demographic than Shudo intended; also, contrary to popular belief, the early Japanese dub ''did'' contain a bit more ParentalBonus humor, though not enough to make for a completely different series. Still, Dogasu's Backpack has made some fans go off to the Japanese version, and when [=TPCI=] took over, the dub became more of a [[AcceptableTargets target]] for criticism, especially since ''XY'' when the music replacement got more prominent than it ever was under 4Kids. It doesn't help that, unlike with its contemporaries ''Manga/DragonBallZ'' and ''Manga/SailorMoon'', ''Pokémon'' has ''not'' released an official Japanese subtitled or uncensored English dubbed version to appease older nostalgic fans, and is regarded as antiquated and out-of-touch in that respect.
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** ''Pokémon'' is an interesting variation; at the time the series first went international, lack of development of the Internet made the raw Japanese versions of anime and comparisons with the dub (let alone {{Fansub}}s) not as easy to access in the West as they are now. So many fans [[IgnoranceIsBliss were not aware of any differences between the Japanese version of the anime and dubbed version]]. But then early 2000 (mid-Orange Islands) Dogasu's Backpack launched, whose biggest feature is an easy-to-use Japanese-to-dub comparison for Pokémon, basically "Yu-Gi-Oh Uncensored: Pokémon Edition". Within a few years, Creator/FourKidsEntertainment's banning and censorship of episodes like ''Beauty and the Beach'', music replacement, and radical editing of ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'' became common knowledge. Still, many still preferred the dub, and the otherwise-criticized [=4Kids=] [[SacredCow still gets a pass on Pokémon]], mostly because of the fact that it was actually one of their most faithful adaptations. So while the main series doesn't suffer much for it, a few episodes and movies have it quite bad - such as the first movie, with fans' perception of Mewtwo and the movie itself being affected by [=4Kids'=] changes, and the dub getting a dismal rating on Website/RottenTomatoes. Possibly justified due to [=4Kids'=] Michael Haigney [[http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/kanto/ep011.html admitting his]] cluelessness in regards to the series and [=4Kids'=] dub in general being aimed at a narrower demographic than Shudo intended; also, contrary to popular belief, the early Japanese dub ''did'' contain a bit more ParentalBonus humor, though not enough to make for a completely different series. Still, Dogasu's Backpack has made some fans go off to the Japanese version, and when [=TPCI=] took over, the dub became more of a [[AcceptableTargets target]] target for criticism, especially since ''XY'' when the music replacement got more prominent than it ever was under 4Kids. It doesn't help that, unlike with its contemporaries ''Manga/DragonBallZ'' and ''Manga/SailorMoon'', ''Pokémon'' has ''not'' released an official Japanese subtitled or uncensored English dubbed version to appease older nostalgic fans, and is regarded as antiquated and out-of-touch in that respect.
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** Brock's anime characteristics such as his fondness for women, being able to tell each Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny apart, having his ear pulled for flirting with women by Misty then Max, and eventually being knocked out cold by Croagunk have all stood the test of Pokémon fandom time.
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** Brock's anime characteristics such as his love of "jelly donuts," his squinted eyes, his fondness for women, being able to tell each Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny apart, having his ear pulled for flirting with women by Misty then Max, and eventually being knocked out cold by Croagunk have all stood the test of Pokémon fandom time.
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** The human members of the TeamRocket trio -- James provides 100% of the series' {{Bishonen}} quotient while Jessie has the [[BuxomIsBetter largest set of breasts]] on the screen and a mini-skirt showing off her legs. Many people particularly like episodes where they have a TemporaryBulkChange, finding their altered states even more visually appealing.
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** The human members of the TeamRocket trio -- James provides 100% of the series' {{Bishonen}} quotient while Jessie has the [[BuxomIsBetter largest set of breasts]] breasts on the screen and a mini-skirt showing off her legs. Many people particularly like episodes where they have a TemporaryBulkChange, finding their altered states even more visually appealing.
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** The fact that [[spoiler:Ash ultimately manages to officially become the strongest champion in the world at the end of the series despite his many league loses]] can give a good Aesop about the value of [[{{Determinator}} never giving up in the face of adversity]].
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** The fact that [[spoiler:Ash ultimately manages to officially become the strongest champion in the world at the end of the series despite his many league loses]] losses]] can give a good Aesop about the value of [[{{Determinator}} never giving up in the face of adversity]].
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: Yes there is at least one game based around the Pokémon anime (aside from (Pokémon Yellow, which is basically Red/Blue with more Pikachu emphasis). Pokémon Puzzle League is often considered one of the better puzzle games on the N64. Even as a re-skin of VideoGame/PanelDePon the staff put in more effort than expected, down to giving every character new recordings; even those that haven’t returned to the anime since.
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: Yes there is at least one game based around the Pokémon anime (aside from (Pokémon Pokémon Yellow, which is basically Red/Blue with more Pikachu emphasis). Pokémon Puzzle League is often considered one of the better puzzle games on the N64. Even as a re-skin of VideoGame/PanelDePon the staff put in more effort than expected, down to giving every character new recordings; even those that haven’t returned to the anime since.
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** Ritchie gets this for winning against Ash in the Indigo League by default after Ash is disqualified for his disobedient Charizard. This is despite the unfair parts were caused by everyone except Ritchie.[[labelnote:specifically]]Team Rocket for capturing Ash [[WorfHadTheFlu leaving his team exhausted]] save for Charizard, the judges for not giving time for them to recover despite this and ruling "fell asleep" as "knocked out" [[AssPull which has never counted before or since]], Charizard disobeying Ash, Ash's friends showing him NoSympathy despite [[UnintentionallySympathetic the circumstances being out of his control]] and Ash himself for not requesting a chance to let his Pokémon rest from said capture (most fans agree that having been ''kidnapped'' should be considered a circumstance worthy of delaying the battle, and his Pokémon being worn out is definitely a big reason he lost), and not having a full team of Pokémon to use (had Ash had six Pokémon on him, he'd have had another choice besides Bulbasaur, which is not really an option because of the type disadvantage against Zippo.[[/labelnote]] Heck, all Ritchie actually did was happen to be Ash's opponent and not go down easy and even tried to convince the referee ''not'' to award him the match by forfeit, giving Ash as fair a fight as possible.
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** Ritchie gets this for winning against Ash in the Indigo League by default after Ash is disqualified for his disobedient Charizard. This is despite the unfair parts were caused by everyone except ''except'' Ritchie.[[labelnote:specifically]]Team Rocket for capturing Ash [[WorfHadTheFlu leaving his team exhausted]] save for Charizard, the Charizard. The judges for not giving time for them to recover despite this and ruling "fell asleep" as "knocked out" [[AssPull which has never counted before or since]], since]]. Charizard disobeying Ash, Ash. Ash's friends showing him NoSympathy despite [[UnintentionallySympathetic the circumstances being out of his control]] and control]]. Ash himself for not requesting a chance to let his Pokémon rest from said capture (most fans agree that having been ''kidnapped'' should be considered a circumstance worthy of delaying the battle, and his Pokémon being worn out is definitely a big reason he lost), and lost) while not having a full team of Pokémon to use (had (if Ash had six Pokémon on him, he'd have had another choice besides Bulbasaur, which is not really an option because of the type disadvantage against Zippo.Zippo).[[/labelnote]] Heck, all Ritchie actually did was happen to be Ash's opponent and who did not go down easy and easy. He even tried to convince the referee ''not'' to award him the match by forfeit, giving Ash as fair a fight as possible.
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** Fans who hate the way Ash lost the Indigo League often foist their anger on Ritchie. Opinion on Ritchie himself is certainly up for debate, but in this circumstance, the blame ''should'' be pointed at just about everyone else: the judge for ruling "fell asleep" as "knocked out", Charizard for disobeying, Team Rocket for capturing Ash, and Ash himself for not requesting a chance to let his Pokémon rest from said capture (most fans agree that having been kidnapped should be considered a circumstance worthy of delaying the battle, and his Pokémon being worn out is definitely a big reason he lost), and not having a full team of Pokémon to use (had Ash had six Pokémon on him, he'd have had another choice besides Bulbasaur[[labelnote:*]]not really an option because of the type disadvantage against Zippo[[/labelnote]] and Charizard). Heck, all Ritchie actually did was happen to be Ash's opponent and not go down easy. These fans also forget that it was Ritchie who convinced the referee ''not'' to award him the match by forfeit.
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** Ritchie gets this for winning against Ash in the Indigo League by default after Ash is disqualified for his disobedient Charizard. This is despite the unfair parts were caused by everyone except Ritchie [[labelnote:specifically]]Team Rocket for capturing Ash [[WorfHadTheFlu leaving his team exhausted]] save for Charizard, the judges for not giving time for them to recover despite this and ruling "fell asleep" as "knocked out" [[AssPull which has never counted before or since]], Charizard disobeying Ash, Ash's friends showing him NoSympathy despite [[UnintentionallySympathetic the circumstances being out of his control]][[/labelnote]] while Ritchie convinced the referee ''not'' to award him the match by forfeit giving Ash as fair a fight as possible.
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** Ritchie gets this for winning against Ash in the Indigo League by default after Ash is disqualified for his disobedient Charizard. This is despite the unfair parts were caused by everyone except Ritchie Ritchie.[[labelnote:specifically]]Team Rocket for capturing Ash [[WorfHadTheFlu leaving his team exhausted]] save for Charizard, the judges for not giving time for them to recover despite this and ruling "fell asleep" as "knocked out" [[AssPull which has never counted before or since]], Charizard disobeying Ash, Ash's friends showing him NoSympathy despite [[UnintentionallySympathetic the circumstances being out of his control]][[/labelnote]] while control]] and Ash himself for not requesting a chance to let his Pokémon rest from said capture (most fans agree that having been ''kidnapped'' should be considered a circumstance worthy of delaying the battle, and his Pokémon being worn out is definitely a big reason he lost), and not having a full team of Pokémon to use (had Ash had six Pokémon on him, he'd have had another choice besides Bulbasaur, which is not really an option because of the type disadvantage against Zippo.[[/labelnote]] Heck, all Ritchie convinced actually did was happen to be Ash's opponent and not go down easy and even tried to convince the referee ''not'' to award him the match by forfeit forfeit, giving Ash as fair a fight as possible.
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** Fans who hate the way Ash lost the Indigo League often foist their anger on Ritchie. Opinion on Ritchie himself is certainly up for debate, but in this circumstance, the blame ''should'' be pointed at just about everyone else: the judge for ruling "fell asleep" as "knocked out", Charizard for disobeying, Team Rocket for capturing Ash, and Ash himself for not requesting a chance to let his Pokémon rest from said capture (most fans agree that having been kidnapped should be considered a circumstance worthy of delaying the battle, and his Pokémon being worn out is definitely a big reason he lost), and not having a full team of Pokémon to use (had Ash had six Pokémon on him, he'd have had another choice besides Bulbasaur[[labelnote:*]]not really an option because of the type disadvantage against Zippo[[/labelnote]] and Charizard). Heck, all Ritchie actually did was happen to be Ash's opponent and not go down easy. These fans also forget that it was Ritchie who convinced the referee ''not'' to award him the match by forfeit.
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* AccidentalAesop: Ash's MemeticLoser reputation drives home the point that winning tournaments are actually very difficult. Many popular athletes and teams in real life have even worse records than Ash, going their entire careers without seeing a single trophy or medal.
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** Ash's MemeticLoser reputation drives home the point that winning tournaments are actually very difficult. Many popular athletes and teams in real life have even worse records than Ash, going their entire careers without seeing a single trophy ormedal.medal.
** The fact that [[spoiler:Ash ultimately manages to officially become the strongest champion in the world at the end of the series despite his many league loses]] can give a good Aesop about the value of [[{{Determinator}} never giving up in the face of adversity]].
** Ash's MemeticLoser reputation drives home the point that winning tournaments are actually very difficult. Many popular athletes and teams in real life have even worse records than Ash, going their entire careers without seeing a single trophy or
** The fact that [[spoiler:Ash ultimately manages to officially become the strongest champion in the world at the end of the series despite his many league loses]] can give a good Aesop about the value of [[{{Determinator}} never giving up in the face of adversity]].
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** Poor Porygon, and it's evolution line, has never made another non-cameo appearance in the anime after it's sole episode, "Electric Soldier Porygon", caused widespread seizures due to the flashing red-and-blue lights, despite Porygon not even causing them. However, Pikachu has also been affected by this as many have blamed them for causing the seizure-inducing scenes. In actuality, the flashing lights were caused by an anti-virus program sent by Nurse Joy, with Pikachu's thunderbolt attack on the missiles near the end being what caused the most infamous shot of the episode.
** The Anime version of Erika has been [[TheScrappy widely disliked]] for her perceived unprofessional ban towards Ash challenging her Gym just because he didn't like perfumes. However, in the episode proper, at no point is it said that Erika approved of the ban: while she did approve [[DisproportionateRetribution having Ash rather aggressively kicked out from the perfume shop]], this was in response of him insulting her shop and merchandise ([[WithFriendsLikeThese which his friends]] [[NoSympathy made no objection of either]]). It was [[OverzealousUnderling her staff]] that denied him permission into the gym over his earlier slight, and when Ash does manage to sneak into the Gym, Erika never mentions the ban at all and agrees to battle (even flat out saying that as a Gym Leader she's required to accept any challenge right before facing Ash), which all point out to her not having been involved in what happened. At worst Erika can be blamed for being a CluelessBoss who doesn't keep check on her overeager employees.[[note]]Compare to Frontier Brain Lucy, who has a similar HotBlooded assistant that aggresses Ash, but promptly tells her to knock it off.[[/note]]
** Fans who hate the way Ash lost the Indigo League often foist their anger on Ritchie. Opinion on Ritchie himself is certainly up for debate, but in this circumstance, the blame ''should'' be pointed at just about everyone else: the judge for ruling "fell asleep" as "knocked out", Charizard for disobeying, Team Rocket for capturing Ash, and Ash himself for not requesting a chance to let his Pokémon rest from said capture (most fans agree that having been kidnapped should be considered a circumstance worthy of delaying the battle, and his Pokémon being worn out is definitely a big reason he lost), and not having a full team of Pokémon to use (had Ash had six Pokémon on him, he'd have had another choice besides Bulbasaur[[labelnote:*]]not really an option because of the type disadvantage against Zippo[[/labelnote]] and Charizard). Heck, all Ritchie actually did was happen to be Ash's opponent and not go down easy. These fans also forget that it was Ritchie who convinced the referee ''not'' to award him the match by forfeit.
** The Anime version of Erika has been [[TheScrappy widely disliked]] for her perceived unprofessional ban towards Ash challenging her Gym just because he didn't like perfumes. However, in the episode proper, at no point is it said that Erika approved of the ban: while she did approve [[DisproportionateRetribution having Ash rather aggressively kicked out from the perfume shop]], this was in response of him insulting her shop and merchandise ([[WithFriendsLikeThese which his friends]] [[NoSympathy made no objection of either]]). It was [[OverzealousUnderling her staff]] that denied him permission into the gym over his earlier slight, and when Ash does manage to sneak into the Gym, Erika never mentions the ban at all and agrees to battle (even flat out saying that as a Gym Leader she's required to accept any challenge right before facing Ash), which all point out to her not having been involved in what happened. At worst Erika can be blamed for being a CluelessBoss who doesn't keep check on her overeager employees.[[note]]Compare to Frontier Brain Lucy, who has a similar HotBlooded assistant that aggresses Ash, but promptly tells her to knock it off.[[/note]]
** Fans who hate the way Ash lost the Indigo League often foist their anger on Ritchie. Opinion on Ritchie himself is certainly up for debate, but in this circumstance, the blame ''should'' be pointed at just about everyone else: the judge for ruling "fell asleep" as "knocked out", Charizard for disobeying, Team Rocket for capturing Ash, and Ash himself for not requesting a chance to let his Pokémon rest from said capture (most fans agree that having been kidnapped should be considered a circumstance worthy of delaying the battle, and his Pokémon being worn out is definitely a big reason he lost), and not having a full team of Pokémon to use (had Ash had six Pokémon on him, he'd have had another choice besides Bulbasaur[[labelnote:*]]not really an option because of the type disadvantage against Zippo[[/labelnote]] and Charizard). Heck, all Ritchie actually did was happen to be Ash's opponent and not go down easy. These fans also forget that it was Ritchie who convinced the referee ''not'' to award him the match by forfeit.
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** The announcement that [[EndOfAnAge Ash and Pikachu would be retired after 25 years of serving as the show's main protagonist]] shook ''everyone'' from how sudden it was, and even [[IKnewIt those who saw the writings on the wall]] were caught off-guard and admitted that it will be hard imagining a season without the world's most recognizable duo.
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** The announcement that [[EndOfAnAge Ash and Pikachu would be retired after 25 years of serving as the show's main protagonist]] shook ''everyone'' from how sudden it was, and even [[IKnewIt those who saw the writings on the wall]] were caught off-guard and admitted that it will be hard imagining a season without the world's most recognizable duo.
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*** Double it up with Ash [[spoiler:''beating Leon and winning the World Coronation Series'', and proving himself to be the best that no one ever was after 25 long years of trial and error]]. Like with the above, ''it made international news headlines''.
** The announcement that [[EndOfAnAge Ash and Pikachu would be retired after 25 years of serving as the show's main protagonist]] shook ''everyone'' from how sudden it was, and even [[IKnewIt those who saw the writings on the wall]] were caught off-guard and admitted that it will be hard imagining a season without the world's most recognizable duo.
** The announcement that [[EndOfAnAge Ash and Pikachu would be retired after 25 years of serving as the show's main protagonist]] shook ''everyone'' from how sudden it was, and even [[IKnewIt those who saw the writings on the wall]] were caught off-guard and admitted that it will be hard imagining a season without the world's most recognizable duo.
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** In the second episode of ''Black and White'' ("Enter Iris and Axew"), there's the line "You can't find anything this jiggly in Unova!" that reads like an advertisement about the [[{{Gainaxing}} bounciness]] of Unova's women. This was also a TPCI English Dub dialogue change.
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** In the second episode of ''Black and White'' ("Enter Iris and Axew"), there's the line "You can't find anything this jiggly in Unova!" that reads like an advertisement about the [[{{Gainaxing}} bounciness]] bounciness of Unova's women. This was also a TPCI English Dub dialogue change.
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** [[spoiler: Ash beating Leon and being crowned the new ''world champion'' of the Pokemon world. After 22 years or so of Ash trying and failing to win a league, debates surrounding his Alola victory counting or not because of how it was handled, and decades of constantly being reset as a trainer... Ash is finally, undebateably the best, like no one ever was.]]
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** Ash [[spoiler: defeating Leon and winning the Pokemon World Championships]] was all over the internet the moment the episode ended, and despite Creator/SarahNatochenny telling her followers not to spoil the outcome, the official Pokémon Twitter did it anyway in multiple languages, and the news was even broadcasted live in the streets of Shibuya.
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** Ash [[spoiler: defeating Leon and winning the Pokemon World Championships]] was all over the internet the moment the episode ended, and despite Creator/SarahNatochenny telling her followers not to spoil the outcome, the official Pokémon Twitter did it anyway in multiple languages, and the news was even broadcasted live in the streets of Shibuya.
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** The human members of the TeamRocket trio -- James provides 100% of the series' {{Bishonen}} quotient while Jessie has the [[BuxomIsBetter largest set of breasts]] on the screen and a mini-skirt [[ShesGotLegs showing off her legs]]. Many people particularly like episodes where they have a TemporaryBulkChange, finding their altered states even more visually appealing.
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** The human members of the TeamRocket trio -- James provides 100% of the series' {{Bishonen}} quotient while Jessie has the [[BuxomIsBetter largest set of breasts]] on the screen and a mini-skirt [[ShesGotLegs showing off her legs]].legs. Many people particularly like episodes where they have a TemporaryBulkChange, finding their altered states even more visually appealing.
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* [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter/{{Pokemon}} [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter/PokemonTheSeries They Wasted A a Perfectly Good Character]]
*[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot/{{Pokemon}} [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot/PokemonTheSeries They Wasted A a Perfectly Good Plot]]
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* SpiritualSuccessor: ''Pokemon'' itself could be considered a Spiritual Successor to ''Plawres Sanshiro'', an early '80s manga and anime that shares many of its themes and some of its staff (including director Kunihiko Yuyama and screenwriter Junki Takegami). The titular protagonist (Sanshiro) aims to become a champion of plastic-model wrestling by having his model compete in a series of tournaments similar to Pokemon battles, and has a {{Tsundere}} love interest (Kyoko) similar to Misty.
** ''Sanshiro'' also became a GatewaySeries for anime fans in Greece when it aired there, in much the same way as ''Pokemon'' was a Gateway Series for North Americans.
** ''Sanshiro'' also became a GatewaySeries for anime fans in Greece when it aired there, in much the same way as ''Pokemon'' was a Gateway Series for North Americans.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: ''Pokemon'' itself could be considered a Spiritual Successor to ''Plawres Sanshiro'', an early '80s manga and anime that shares many of its themes and some of its staf (including director Kunihiko Yuyama and screenwriter Junki Takegami). The titular protagonist (Sanshiro) aims to become a champion of plastic-model wrestling by having his model compete in a series of tournaments similar to Pokemon battles, and has a {{Tsundere}} love interest (Kyoko) similar to Misty.
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* SpiritualSuccessor: ''Pokemon'' itself could be considered a Spiritual Successor to ''Plawres Sanshiro'', an early '80s manga and anime that shares many of its themes and some of its staf staff (including director Kunihiko Yuyama and screenwriter Junki Takegami). The titular protagonist (Sanshiro) aims to become a champion of plastic-model wrestling by having his model compete in a series of tournaments similar to Pokemon battles, and has a {{Tsundere}} love interest (Kyoko) similar to Misty.
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* [[SpiritualSuccessor]]: SpiritualSuccessor: ''Pokemon'' itself could be considered a Spiritual Successor to ''Plawres Sanshiro'', an early '80s manga and anime that shares many of its themes and some of its staf (including director Kunihiko Yuyama and screenwriter Junki Takegami). The titular protagonist (Sanshiro) aims to become a champion of plastic-model wrestling by having his model compete in a series of tournaments similar to Pokemon battles, and has a {{Tsundere}} love interest (Kyoko) similar to Misty.
