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** The main character also does not preach morals nor is treated as the moral center of the story, being more morally grey.
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* MemeticLoser: Mudie for being the second Gundam pilot in the Cosmic Era to have her Blu Duel be destroyed by nameless {{Mook}}s. It is a lot more jarring considering that Yzak in comparison had his weaker MasterOfNone Duel Gundam survive the entire war before.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Shams Couza is a glasses-wearing heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. [[Creator/HiroshiKamiya His original VA]] would go on to voice Tieria Erde in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'', who is also a glasses-wearing heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. In addition, his [[Creator/MamoruMiyano replacement VA]] would go on to voice [[TheHero Setsuna F. Seiei]] in that same anime. So in a way, Shams ends up TalkingToHimself.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Shams Couza is a glasses-wearing heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. [[Creator/HiroshiKamiya His original VA]] would go on to voice Tieria Erde in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'', who is also a glasses-wearing heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. In addition, his [[Creator/MamoruMiyano replacement VA]] would go on to voice [[TheHero Setsuna F. Seiei]] in that same anime. So in a way, Shams ends up TalkingToHimself.[[ActingForTwo talking to himself]].
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** The show hardly has any [[StockFootage recycled animation]] if at all.
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* SalvagedStory: The whole OVA is meant to appease angry fans who mercilessly lash on ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''.
** The show hardly has any [[StockFootage recycled animation]] if at all.
** Flashbacks are present, but offer relevant information rather than telling what viewers already know.
** The main character is a [[BadassNormal Natural]] rather than a Coordinator.
** Sven is emotionless, avoiding any issues with angst and wangst.
** The story shifts back and forth between Phantom's Pain and DSSD, leaving out Orb, Terminal, ZAFT and all their related controversies.
** The first thing that the Earth Alliance does when [[ColonyDrop Junius Seven's remains fall on Earth]] is relief effort rather than calling for war against ZAFT.
** In addition, the insurgency that occurs after the Junius Seven drop gave them a better VillainHasAPoint based on them being well-organized and well-equipped for remnants and terrorists.
** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily opposes Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regrets handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There's also Reyes, an EA tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
** Edmond is a former EA officer and a BenevolentBoss, a nice change from the [[BadBoss EA's officers]] found in the two previous series.
** DSSD shows that Naturals and Coordinators can peacefully work together outside of Orb and Terminal.
** The show hardly has any [[StockFootage recycled animation]] if at all.
** Flashbacks are present, but offer relevant information rather than telling what viewers already know.
** The main character is a [[BadassNormal Natural]] rather than a Coordinator.
** Sven is emotionless, avoiding any issues with angst and wangst.
** The story shifts back and forth between Phantom's Pain and DSSD, leaving out Orb, Terminal, ZAFT and all their related controversies.
** The first thing that the Earth Alliance does when [[ColonyDrop Junius Seven's remains fall on Earth]] is relief effort rather than calling for war against ZAFT.
** In addition, the insurgency that occurs after the Junius Seven drop gave them a better VillainHasAPoint based on them being well-organized and well-equipped for remnants and terrorists.
** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily opposes Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regrets handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There's also Reyes, an EA tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
** Edmond is a former EA officer and a BenevolentBoss, a nice change from the [[BadBoss EA's officers]] found in the two previous series.
** DSSD shows that Naturals and Coordinators can peacefully work together outside of Orb and Terminal.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The whole OVA is meant to appease angry fans who mercilessly lash on ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''.
** The show hardly has any [[StockFootage recycled animation]] if at all.
** Flashbacks are present, but offer relevant information rather than telling what viewers already know.
** The main character is a [[BadassNormal Natural]] rather than a Coordinator.
** Sven is emotionless, avoiding any issues with angst and wangst.
** The story shifts back and forth between Phantom's Pain and DSSD, leaving out Orb, Terminal, ZAFT and all their related controversies.
** The first thing that the Earth Alliance does when [[ColonyDrop Junius Seven's remains fall on Earth]] is relief effort rather than calling for war against ZAFT.
** In addition, the insurgency that occurs after the Junius Seven drop gave them a better VillainHasAPoint based on them being well-organized and well-equipped for remnants and terrorists.
** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily opposes Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regrets handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There's also Reyes, an EA tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
** Edmond is a former EA officer and a BenevolentBoss, a nice change from the [[BadBoss EA's officers]] found in the two previous series.
** DSSD shows that Naturals and Coordinators can peacefully work together outside of Orb and Terminal.
** The show hardly has any [[StockFootage recycled animation]] if at all.
** Flashbacks are present, but offer relevant information rather than telling what viewers already know.
** The main character is a [[BadassNormal Natural]] rather than a Coordinator.
** Sven is emotionless, avoiding any issues with angst and wangst.
** The story shifts back and forth between Phantom's Pain and DSSD, leaving out Orb, Terminal, ZAFT and all their related controversies.
** The first thing that the Earth Alliance does when [[ColonyDrop Junius Seven's remains fall on Earth]] is relief effort rather than calling for war against ZAFT.
** In addition, the insurgency that occurs after the Junius Seven drop gave them a better VillainHasAPoint based on them being well-organized and well-equipped for remnants and terrorists.
** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily opposes Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regrets handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There's also Reyes, an EA tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
** Edmond is a former EA officer and a BenevolentBoss, a nice change from the [[BadBoss EA's officers]] found in the two previous series.
** DSSD shows that Naturals and Coordinators can peacefully work together outside of Orb and Terminal.
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** Edmond is a former EA officer and a BenevolentBoss, a nice change from the [[BadBoss EA's officers ]] found in the two previous series.
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** Edmond is a former EA officer and a BenevolentBoss, a nice change from the [[BadBoss EA's officers ]] officers]] found in the two previous series.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Shams Couza is a glasses-wearing heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. [[Creator/HiroshiKamiya His VA]] will go on to voice Tieria Erde in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'', who is also a glasses-wearing heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. In addition, his [[Creator/MamoruMiyano replacement VA]] would go on to voice Setsuna F. Seiei in that same anime. So in a way, Shams ends up TalkingToHimself.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Shams Couza is a glasses-wearing heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. [[Creator/HiroshiKamiya His original VA]] will would go on to voice Tieria Erde in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'', who is also a glasses-wearing heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. In addition, his [[Creator/MamoruMiyano replacement VA]] would go on to voice [[TheHero Setsuna F. Seiei Seiei]] in that same anime. So in a way, Shams ends up TalkingToHimself.
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** The story shift back and forth between Phantom's Pain and DSSD, leaving out Orb, Terminal, ZAFT and all their related controversies.
** The first thing that the Earth Alliance do when [[ColonyDrop Junius Seven's remains fall on Earth]] is relief effort rather than calling for war against ZAFT.
** In addition, the insurgency that occur after Junius Seven drop gave them a better VillainHasAPoint based on them being well-organized and well-equipped for remnants and terrorists.
** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There's also Reyes, the EA's tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
** Edmond is a EA former officer and a BenevolentBoss, a nice change from the [[BadBoss EA's officers ]] found in the two previous series.
** DSSD show that Naturals and Coordinators can peacefully work together outside of Orb and Terminal.
** The first thing that the Earth Alliance do when [[ColonyDrop Junius Seven's remains fall on Earth]] is relief effort rather than calling for war against ZAFT.
** In addition, the insurgency that occur after Junius Seven drop gave them a better VillainHasAPoint based on them being well-organized and well-equipped for remnants and terrorists.
** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There's also Reyes, the EA's tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
** Edmond is a EA former officer and a BenevolentBoss, a nice change from the [[BadBoss EA's officers ]] found in the two previous series.
** DSSD show that Naturals and Coordinators can peacefully work together outside of Orb and Terminal.
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** The story shift shifts back and forth between Phantom's Pain and DSSD, leaving out Orb, Terminal, ZAFT and all their related controversies.
** The first thing that the Earth Alliancedo does when [[ColonyDrop Junius Seven's remains fall on Earth]] is relief effort rather than calling for war against ZAFT.
** In addition, the insurgency thatoccur occurs after the Junius Seven drop gave them a better VillainHasAPoint based on them being well-organized and well-equipped for remnants and terrorists.
** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrilyoppose opposes Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret regrets handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There's also Reyes, the EA's an EA tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
** Edmond is aEA former EA officer and a BenevolentBoss, a nice change from the [[BadBoss EA's officers ]] found in the two previous series.
** DSSDshow shows that Naturals and Coordinators can peacefully work together outside of Orb and Terminal.
** The first thing that the Earth Alliance
** In addition, the insurgency that
** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily
** Edmond is a
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* HilariousInHindsight: Shams Couza is a heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. His VA will go on to voice in the next ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Gundam Series'', also as a heavy weapons mobile suit pilot as well. In addition, his replacement VA also will go on to voice as Setsuna F. Seiei. So in a way, Shams ends up TalkingToHimself.
* MoralEventHorizon: Myudi, Shams, and their bosses cross this when they massacre a Coordinator refugee camp simply because some terrorists ''may'' be hiding there.
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Edmond. He's from the EA, but isn't evil. He's a nice guy and treats people well and with respect. He unfortunately died while saving people using his awesome skills as a tank commander. Against a [[HumongousMecha GINN]] no less.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: Myudi, Shams, and their bosses cross this when they massacre a Coordinator refugee camp simply because some terrorists ''may'' be hiding there.
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Edmond. He's from the EA, but isn't evil. He's a nice guy and treats people well and with respect. He unfortunately died while saving people using his awesome skills as a tank commander. Against a [[HumongousMecha GINN]] no less.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: Shams Couza is a glasses-wearing heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. [[Creator/HiroshiKamiya His VA VA]] will go on to voice Tieria Erde in the next ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Gundam Series'', ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'', who is also as a glasses-wearing heavy weapons mobile suit pilot as well. pilot. In addition, his [[Creator/MamoruMiyano replacement VA also will VA]] would go on to voice as Setsuna F. Seiei.Seiei in that same anime. So in a way, Shams ends up TalkingToHimself.
* MoralEventHorizon:Myudi, Mudie, Shams, and their bosses cross this when they massacre a Coordinator refugee camp simply because some terrorists ''may'' be hiding there.
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Edmond. He's from the EA, but isn't evil. He's a nice guy and treats people well and with respect. He unfortunatelydied dies while saving people using his awesome skills as a tank commander. Against commander, against a [[HumongousMecha GINN]] no less.]]]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: Shams Couza is a heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. His VA will go on to voice in the next Gundam Series, also as a heavy weapons mobile suit pilot as well.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Shams Couza is a heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. His VA will go on to voice in the next ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Gundam Series, Series'', also as a heavy weapons mobile suit pilot as well.well. In addition, his replacement VA also will go on to voice as Setsuna F. Seiei. So in a way, Shams ends up TalkingToHimself.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Shams Couza is a heavy weapons mobile suit pilot. His VA will go on to voice in the next Gundam Series, also as a heavy weapons mobile suit pilot as well.
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** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There' also Reyes, the EA's tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
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** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There' There's also Reyes, the EA's tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The whole OVA is meant [[BrokenBase to appease angry fans]] who mercilessly lash on ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The whole OVA is meant [[BrokenBase to appease angry fans]] fans who mercilessly lash on ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''.
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* Complete Monster: [[YMMV/MobileSuitGundamSEED Muruta Azrael]] has more crimes. See that page for details.
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They redeem themselves in the manga in a way not contradicted by the OVA, Also, Examples Are Not Arguable.
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** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose]] [[BigBad Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There' also Reyes, the EA's tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
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** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose]] [[BigBad oppose Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There' also Reyes, the EA's tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Myudi, Shams, and arguably Sven, cross this when they massacre a Coordinator refugee camp simply because their superiors claim some terrorists may be hiding there. Their bosses ''definitely'' cross the line by the simple act of ordering the attack in the first place.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Myudi, Shams, and arguably Sven, their bosses cross this when they massacre a Coordinator refugee camp simply because their superiors claim some terrorists may ''may'' be hiding there. Their bosses ''definitely'' cross the line by the simple act of ordering the attack in the first place.there.
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** The story shift back and forth between Phantom's Pain and DSSD, leaving out Orb, Terminal, ZAFT and all their related [[BaseBreaker controversies]].
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** The story shift back and forth between Phantom's Pain and DSSD, leaving out Orb, Terminal, ZAFT and all their related [[BaseBreaker controversies]].controversies.
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** Sven is emotionless, avoiding any issues with angst and wangst.
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** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose]] [[BigBad Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There' also Reyes, the EA's tank driver who knows that Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
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** The show hardly has any [[ClipShow recycled animation if at all]].
** The main character is [[BadassNormal a Natural]] rather than a Coordinator.
** The main character is [[BadassNormal a Natural]] rather than a Coordinator.
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** The show hardly has any [[ClipShow [[StockFootage recycled animation animation]] if at all]].
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** Flashbacks are present, but offer relevant information rather than telling what viewers already know.
** The main character is a [[BadassNormala Natural]] rather than a Coordinator.
** Flashbacks are present, but offer relevant information rather than telling what viewers already know.
** The main character is a [[BadassNormal
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* MoralEventHorizon: Myudi, Shams, and arguably Sven, cross this when they massacre a Coordinator refugee camp simply because their superiors claim some terrorists may be hiding there. Their bosses ''definitely'' cross the line by the simple act of ordering the attack in the first place.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Myudi, Shams, and arguably Sven, cross this when they massacre a Coordinator refugee camp simply because their superiors claim some terrorists may be hiding there. Their bosses ''definitely'' cross the line by the simple act of ordering the attack in the first place.place.
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Edmond. He's from the EA, but isn't evil. He's a nice guy and treats people well and with respect. He unfortunately died while saving people using his awesome skills as a tank commander. Against a [[HumongousMecha GINN]] no less.]]
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:Edmond. He's from the EA, but isn't evil. He's a nice guy and treats people well and with respect. He unfortunately died while saving people using his awesome skills as a tank commander. Against a [[HumongousMecha GINN]] no less.]]
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** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose]] [[BigBad Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]].
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** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose]] [[BigBad Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing Sven over to Phantom Pain]]. There' also Reyes, the EA's tank driver who knows Selene is a Coordinator, but holds no hatred against her.
** DSSD show that Naturals and Coordinators can peacefully work together outside of Orb and Terminal.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The whole OVA is this [[BrokenBase to appease angry fans]] who lash on ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''.
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** While the Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose]] [[BigBad Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing him over to Phantom Pain]].
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** While the Atlantic Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose]] [[BigBad Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing him Sven over to Phantom Pain]].
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** While the Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[DrillSergeantNasty superior]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards superior who angrily oppose oppose]] [[BigBad Azrael]].Azrael]] and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone the doctor who regret handing him over to Phantom Pain]].
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The whole OVA is this [[BrokenBase to appease angry fans]] who lash on ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''.
** The show hardly has any [[ClipShow recycled animation if at all]].
** The story shift back and forth between Phantom's Pain and DSSD, leaving out ZAFT and its [[BaseBreaker controversies]].
** The first thing that the Earth Alliance do when [[ColonyDrop Junius Seven's remains fall on Earth]] is relief effort rather than calling for war against ZAFT.
** While the Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[DrillSergeantNasty superior]] who angrily oppose [[BigBad Azrael]].
** The show hardly has any [[ClipShow recycled animation if at all]].
** The story shift back and forth between Phantom's Pain and DSSD, leaving out ZAFT and its [[BaseBreaker controversies]].
** The first thing that the Earth Alliance do when [[ColonyDrop Junius Seven's remains fall on Earth]] is relief effort rather than calling for war against ZAFT.
** While the Federation is still evil, more sympathetic characters are shown such as Sven's [[DrillSergeantNasty superior]] who angrily oppose [[BigBad Azrael]].
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This deed, while Moral Event Horizon worthy, is not enough to qualify him a monster within this series. The series where he does qualify already label him as such within the appropriate pages.
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* CompleteMonster: If Muruta Azrael's attempt at arranging a FinalSolution in the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' weren't enough to qualify him, ''Stargazer'' adds additional crimes to his hefty rapsheet. It's revealed that in addition to the original pre-Extended trio, Azrael had an entire program dedicated to using TrainingFromHell to turn orphans into [[SuperSoldier elite]] {{child soldier}}s. When one of the program directors objected to the way things were being run Azrael, true to form, angrily shouts him down.
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* CompleteMonster: If Muruta Azrael's attempt at arranging a FinalSolution in the original ''GundamSEED'' weren't enough to qualify him, ''Stargazer'' adds additional crimes to his hefty rapsheet. It's revealed that in addition to the original pre-Extended trio, Azrael had an entire program dedicated to using TrainingFromHell to turn orphans into [[SuperSoldier elite]] {{child soldier}}s. When one of the program directors objected to the way things were being run Azrael, true to form, angrily shouts him down.
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* CompleteMonster: If Muruta Azrael's attempt at arranging a FinalSolution in the original ''GundamSEED'' ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' weren't enough to qualify him, ''Stargazer'' adds additional crimes to his hefty rapsheet. It's revealed that in addition to the original pre-Extended trio, Azrael had an entire program dedicated to using TrainingFromHell to turn orphans into [[SuperSoldier elite]] {{child soldier}}s. When one of the program directors objected to the way things were being run Azrael, true to form, angrily shouts him down.
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* CompleteMonster: If Muruta Azrael's attempt at arranging a FinalSolution in the original ''GundamSEED'' weren't enough to qualify him, ''Stargazer'' adds additional crimes to his hefty rapsheet. It's revealed that in addition to the original pre-Extended trio, Azrael had an entire program dedicated to using TrainingFromHell to turn orphans into [[SuperSoldier elite]] {{child soldier}}s. When one of the program directors objected to the way things were being run Azrael, true to form, angrily shouts him down.
* MoralEventHorizon: Myudi, Shams, and arguably Sven, cross this when they massacre a Coordinator refugee camp simply because their superiors claim some terrorists may be hiding there. Their bosses ''definitely'' cross the line by the simple act of ordering the attack in the first place.
* MoralEventHorizon: Myudi, Shams, and arguably Sven, cross this when they massacre a Coordinator refugee camp simply because their superiors claim some terrorists may be hiding there. Their bosses ''definitely'' cross the line by the simple act of ordering the attack in the first place.