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* FranchiseZombie: LSL 8 and 9, which were created without Al Lowe's involvment.

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* FranchiseZombie: LSL 8 and 9, which were created without Al Lowe's involvment.involvement.



** A fair bit of the older games' humor has become uncomfortable at best and outright offensive at worst, particularly the jokes made at the expense of LBGTQ people in general and trans women in particular (like the extended riff on ''Film/TheCryingGame'' in ''Shape Up or Slip Out'', a gag that was repeated almost verbatim in ''Magne Cum Laude''). Larry has also "turned women gay" at various points throughout the series, which is a very outdated view of female sexuality (though in [[FairForItsDay fairness]], this is almost always presented as a positive development in the lives of the women in question, especially since they're better off without Larry in their love life).

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** A fair bit of the older games' humor has become uncomfortable at best and outright offensive at worst, particularly the jokes made at the expense of LBGTQ people in general and trans women in particular (like the extended riff on ''Film/TheCryingGame'' in ''Shape Up or Slip Out'', a gag that was repeated almost verbatim in ''Magne ''Magna Cum Laude''). Larry has also "turned women gay" at various points throughout the series, which is a very outdated view of female sexuality (though in [[FairForItsDay fairness]], this is almost always presented as a positive development in the lives of the women in question, especially since they're better off without Larry in their love life).



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The last two games are much less subtle in their sexual humor, include less adventure elements, more mini-games and the latter installment uses ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto''-based gameplay.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The last two games LSL 8 and 9 are much less subtle in their sexual humor, include less adventure elements, more mini-games and the latter installment uses ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto''-based gameplay.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Don't let the cartoony box art fool you. This game is PURELY intended for adults, with LOTS of raunchy moments.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Don't let the cartoony box art fool you. This game is These games are PURELY intended for adults, with LOTS of raunchy moments.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Jeffrey Tambor voicing a womanizer like Larry in ''Box Office Bust'' becomes this after he was accused of sexual assault by several women.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Jeffrey Tambor HarsherInHindsight:
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voicing a womanizer like Larry in ''Box Office Bust'' becomes this after he was accused of sexual assault by several women.

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* DesignatedHero: A common complaint about the Larry Lovage games is that Lovage's boorish behavior makes it very difficult to root for him.



** A large part of any game involves Larry doing favors for women with the expectation that he'll be rewarded with sex; this might make Larry look a little too much like a [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency "Nice]] [[EntitledToHaveYou Guys"]] to some players[[note]]Though it's worth noting that the women themselves are usually the ones [[SexforServices offering sex]], Larry usually doesn't get it, and he ends up looking like a fool for being so easily (and repeatedly) manipulated[[/note]].

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** A large part of any game involves Larry doing favors for women with the expectation that he'll be rewarded with sex; this might make Larry look a little too much like a [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency "Nice]] [[EntitledToHaveYou Guys"]] to some players[[note]]Though it's worth noting that the women themselves are usually the ones [[SexforServices [[SexForServices offering sex]], Larry usually doesn't get it, and he ends up looking like a fool for being so easily (and repeatedly) manipulated[[/note]].
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* ReplacementScrappy: Many fans feel that Larry Lovage is an inferior substitute to his uncle Larry Laffer.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Many fans feel that Larry Lovage is an inferior substitute to far less popular than his uncle Larry Laffer.Laffer thanks to his obnoxious personality.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Don't let the cartoony box art fool you. This game is PURELY intended for adults, with LOTS of raunchy moments.
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%%* {{Adorkable}}: Ione from MCL, especially before [[spoiler:Larry turns her into a lesbian]] but even then she is still at least a little bit of this.
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** A fair bit of the older games' humor has become uncomfortable at best and outright offensive at worst, particularly the jokes made at the expense of LBGTQ people (like the extended riff on ''Film/TheCryingGame'' in ''Shape Up or Slip Out'').

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** A fair bit of the older games' humor has become uncomfortable at best and outright offensive at worst, particularly the jokes made at the expense of LBGTQ people in general and trans women in particular (like the extended riff on ''Film/TheCryingGame'' in ''Shape Up or Slip Out'').Out'', a gag that was repeated almost verbatim in ''Magne Cum Laude''). Larry has also "turned women gay" at various points throughout the series, which is a very outdated view of female sexuality (though in [[FairForItsDay fairness]], this is almost always presented as a positive development in the lives of the women in question, especially since they're better off without Larry in their love life).
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** A fair bit of the older games' humor has become uncomfortable at best and outright offensive at worst, particularly the jokes made at the expense of LBGTQ people (like the extended riff on ''Film/TheCryingGame'' in ''Shape Up or Slip Out'').
** A large part of any game involves Larry doing favors for women with the expectation that he'll be rewarded with sex; this might make Larry look a little too much like a [[WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency "Nice]] [[EntitledToHaveYou Guys"]] to some players[[note]]Though it's worth noting that the women themselves are usually the ones [[SexforServices offering sex]], Larry usually doesn't get it, and he ends up looking like a fool for being so easily (and repeatedly) manipulated[[/note]].

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Bizarrely, ''Magna Cum Laude'' for it's emphasis on gross-out humor and such, has one of the sweeter routes in the series with Morgan the Adorkable Librarian. Not only do her and Larry Lovage have quite a few things in common with their hobbies, they have SURPRISINGLY cute chemistry and the ending is genuinely sweet (Well...for a Larry game that is). There is a reason most players tend to choose her as the final girl in the game.


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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Bizarrely, ''Magna Cum Laude'' for it's emphasis on gross-out humor and such, has one of the sweeter routes in the series with Morgan the Adorkable Librarian. Not only do her and Larry Lovage have quite a few things in common with their hobbies, they have SURPRISINGLY cute chemistry and the ending is genuinely sweet (Well...for a Larry game that is). There is a reason most players tend to choose her as the final girl in the game.
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!!YMMV pages for specific games:
* ''YMMV/LeisureSuitLarry1InTheLandOfTheLoungeLizards''
* ''YMMV/LeisureSuitLarry5PassionatePattiDoesALittleUndercoverWork''
* ''YMMV/LeisureSuitLarry6ShapeUpOrSlipOut''
* ''YMMV/LeisureSuitLarry7LoveForSail''

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* ValuesDissonance: The mandatory encounter with [[spoiler:Shablee]] in LSL 6 is a particular kind of BlackComedy that wouldn't really swing after the year in which it was released, except in more "hardcore" adult humor venues like ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' or ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. [[spoiler:It revolves around a combination of UnsettlingGenderReveal, BlackComedyRape, and DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale, with Shablee revealed as actually being a {{transvestite}}[[note]]some fans think trans-woman, but the design document assert Shablee is a cross-dressed gay man[[/note]], something that causes Larry to start spitting and gagging in disgust, before s/he implicitly rapes him off-screen. It goes without saying that the LGBT community doesn't like the associations that this "joke" has.]]
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The ''Larry'' series is quite popular in Poland, thanks to the {{Woolseyism}}s and Jerzy Stuhr providing the voice of our protagonist in ''LSL 7'', as well as getting a [[http://allowe.com/games/larry/history-of-larry/larry-collections.html thorough translation of the first five games in Polish in 2001]].

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* DorkAge: ''Magna Cum Laude'' and ''Box Office Bust'' both got this (though definitely moreso for the latter, the former at least has some fans), namely for the fact that they weren't made by Al Lowe.

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* DorkAge: ''Magna Cum Laude'' and ''Box Office Bust'' both got this (though definitely moreso for the latter, the former at least has some fans), namely for the fact that [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight they weren't made by Al Lowe.Lowe]].



* ReplacementScrappy: Many fans feel this way about Larry Lovage.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Many fans feel this way about that Larry Lovage.Lovage is an inferior substitute to his uncle Larry Laffer.



** BrotherChuck: Passionate Patti disappeared between LSL 5 and LSL 6.



* ValuesDissonance: The mandatory encounter with [[spoiler:Shablee]] in LSL 6 is a particular kind of BlackComedy that wouldn't really swing after the year in which it was released, except in more "hardcore" adult humor venues like WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy or WesternAnimation/SouthPark. [[spoiler:It revolves around a combination of UnsettlingGenderReveal, BlackComedyRape, and DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale, with Shablee revealed as actually being a {{transvestite}}[[note]]some fans think trans-woman, but the design document assert Shablee is a cross-dressed gay man[[/note]], something that causes Larry to start spitting and gagging in disgust, before s/he implicitly rapes him off-screen. It goes without saying that the LGBT community doesn't like the associations that this "joke" has.]]

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* ValuesDissonance: The mandatory encounter with [[spoiler:Shablee]] in LSL 6 is a particular kind of BlackComedy that wouldn't really swing after the year in which it was released, except in more "hardcore" adult humor venues like WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' or WesternAnimation/SouthPark.''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. [[spoiler:It revolves around a combination of UnsettlingGenderReveal, BlackComedyRape, and DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale, with Shablee revealed as actually being a {{transvestite}}[[note]]some fans think trans-woman, but the design document assert Shablee is a cross-dressed gay man[[/note]], something that causes Larry to start spitting and gagging in disgust, before s/he implicitly rapes him off-screen. It goes without saying that the LGBT community doesn't like the associations that this "joke" has.]]

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* AccidentalInnuendo: The VGA version of ''Lounge Lizards'' has a device driver with the name "STD". While it has this in common with all Sierra games, its use in this particular one makes it a very accidental innuendo indeed.
* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: Bizarrely, ''Magna Cum Laude'' for it's emphasis on gross-out humor and such, has one of the sweeter routes in the series with Morgan the Adorkable Librarian. Not only do her and Larry Lovage have quite a few things in common with their hobbies, they have SURPRISINGLY cute chemistry and the ending is genuinely sweet (Well...for a Larry game that is). There is a reason most players tend to choose her as the final girl in the game.
* DorkAge: ''Magna Cum Laude'' and ''Box Office Bust'' both got this (though definitely moreso for the latter, the former at least has some fans), namely for the fact that they weren't made by Al Lowe.
* FauxSymbolism: [[spoiler: To win the first game, you [[TemptingApple give Eve an apple]] to seduce her. Subtle.]]

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* AccidentalInnuendo: The VGA version of ''Lounge Lizards'' has a device driver with the name "STD". While it has this in common with all Sierra games, its use in this particular one makes it a very accidental innuendo indeed.
* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming:
CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Bizarrely, ''Magna Cum Laude'' for it's emphasis on gross-out humor and such, has one of the sweeter routes in the series with Morgan the Adorkable Librarian. Not only do her and Larry Lovage have quite a few things in common with their hobbies, they have SURPRISINGLY cute chemistry and the ending is genuinely sweet (Well...for a Larry game that is). There is a reason most players tend to choose her as the final girl in the game.
* DorkAge: ''Magna Cum Laude'' and ''Box Office Bust'' both got this (though definitely moreso for the latter, the former at least has some fans), namely for the fact that they weren't made by Al Lowe. \n* FauxSymbolism: [[spoiler: To win the first game, you [[TemptingApple give Eve an apple]] to seduce her. Subtle.]]



* FunnyAneurysmMoment
** The age-verification questions for the first ''VideoGame/LeisureSuitLarry'', released in 1987, include:
--->O. J. Simpson is
--->a. an R & B singer.
--->b. under indictment.
--->c. embarrassed by his first name (Olivia).
--->d. no one to fool with.
-->''(The correct answer was d.)''



* PortingDisaster: The iOS port of ''Reloaded'' has an EpicFail on iPhone 6, where [=BGMs=] do not play at all, along with other glitches. It also cuts out the EasterEgg of turning off the bubbles to see Eve's breasts.
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* WhatAnIdiot: In ''Reloaded'', Larry decides to tell Jasmine that he made her perfume with ambergris that he got by pouring hot sauce into her beloved whale's blowhole. [[GetOut You can imagine how well she takes it]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: Jeffrey Tambor voicing a womanizer like Larry in ''Box Office Bust'' becomes this after he was accused of sexual assault by several women.
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* ScrappyMechanic: At least one reviewer felt that the conversations in ''Magna Cum Laude'' are genuinely amusing, and then proceeded to lament that you cannot actually pay attention to them as you need to play the minigame to keep them going.
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* ValuesDissonance: Larry's reaction to Shablee's [[spoiler: UnsettlingGenderReveal]] in LSL 6 can be seen as such, considering the [[spoiler: LGBT community]] wasn't as vocal as it is nowadays. However, Larry's reaction is normal for someone who's straight (and possibly raped/molested in more orifices than one). The use of rape/[[spoiler:transvestite]] as comedy would be the actual value Value Dissonance, and be less likely to be used in modern comedy (''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' excluded).

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* ValuesDissonance: Larry's reaction to Shablee's [[spoiler: UnsettlingGenderReveal]] The mandatory encounter with [[spoiler:Shablee]] in LSL 6 can be seen as such, considering is a particular kind of BlackComedy that wouldn't really swing after the [[spoiler: LGBT community]] wasn't as vocal as year in which it is nowadays. However, Larry's reaction is normal for someone who's straight (and possibly raped/molested was released, except in more orifices than one). The use "hardcore" adult humor venues like WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy or WesternAnimation/SouthPark. [[spoiler:It revolves around a combination of rape/[[spoiler:transvestite]] UnsettlingGenderReveal, BlackComedyRape, and DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale, with Shablee revealed as comedy would be actually being a {{transvestite}}[[note]]some fans think trans-woman, but the actual value Value Dissonance, design document assert Shablee is a cross-dressed gay man[[/note]], something that causes Larry to start spitting and be less likely to be used gagging in modern comedy (''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' excluded).disgust, before s/he implicitly rapes him off-screen. It goes without saying that the LGBT community doesn't like the associations that this "joke" has.]]
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* ValuesDissonance: Larry's reaction to Shablee's [[spoiler: UnsettlingGenderReveal]] in LSL 6 can be seen as such, considering the [[spoiler: LGBT community]] wasn't as vocal as it is nowadays. However, Larry's reaction is normal for someone who's straight (and possibly raped/molested in more orifices than one). The use of rape/[[spoiler: transvestite]] as comedy would be the actual value Value Dissonance, and be less likely to be used in modern comedy (''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' excluded).

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* ValuesDissonance: Larry's reaction to Shablee's [[spoiler: UnsettlingGenderReveal]] in LSL 6 can be seen as such, considering the [[spoiler: LGBT community]] wasn't as vocal as it is nowadays. However, Larry's reaction is normal for someone who's straight (and possibly raped/molested in more orifices than one). The use of rape/[[spoiler: transvestite]] rape/[[spoiler:transvestite]] as comedy would be the actual value Value Dissonance, and be less likely to be used in modern comedy (''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' excluded).
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* ValuesDissonance: Larry's reaction to Shablee's [[spoiler: UnsettlingGenderReveal]] in LSL 6 can be seen as such, considering the [[spoiler: LGBT community]] wasn't as vocal as it is nowadays. However, Larry reaction is normal for someone who is not gay (and possibly raped/molested in more orifices than one). The use of rape/transvestite as comedy would be the actual value Value Dissonance, and be less likely to be used in modern comedy (''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' excluded).

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* ValuesDissonance: Larry's reaction to Shablee's [[spoiler: UnsettlingGenderReveal]] in LSL 6 can be seen as such, considering the [[spoiler: LGBT community]] wasn't as vocal as it is nowadays. However, Larry Larry's reaction is normal for someone who is not gay who's straight (and possibly raped/molested in more orifices than one). The use of rape/transvestite rape/[[spoiler: transvestite]] as comedy would be the actual value Value Dissonance, and be less likely to be used in modern comedy (''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' excluded).
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* PortingDisaster: The iOS port of Reloaded cuts out the EasterEgg of turning off the bubbles to see Eve's breasts.
** Also, the iOS version has an EpicFail on iPhone 6, where [=BGMs=] do not play at all, along with other glitches.

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* PortingDisaster: The iOS port of Reloaded ''Reloaded'' has an EpicFail on iPhone 6, where [=BGMs=] do not play at all, along with other glitches. It also cuts out the EasterEgg of turning off the bubbles to see Eve's breasts.
** Also, the iOS version has an EpicFail on iPhone 6, where [=BGMs=] do not play at all, along with other glitches.



* ValuesDissonance: Larry's reaction to Shablee's [[spoiler: UnsettlingGenderReveal]] in LSL 6 can be seen as such, considering the [[spoiler: LGBT community]] wasn't as vocal as it is nowadays. However, Larry reaction is normal for someone who is not gay (and possibly raped/molested in more orifices than one). The use of rape/transvestite as comedy would be the actual value Value Dissonance, and be less likely to be used in modern comedy (South Park excluded).

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* ValuesDissonance: Larry's reaction to Shablee's [[spoiler: UnsettlingGenderReveal]] in LSL 6 can be seen as such, considering the [[spoiler: LGBT community]] wasn't as vocal as it is nowadays. However, Larry reaction is normal for someone who is not gay (and possibly raped/molested in more orifices than one). The use of rape/transvestite as comedy would be the actual value Value Dissonance, and be less likely to be used in modern comedy (South Park (''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' excluded).
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* ValuesDissonance: Larry's reaction to Shablee's [[spoiler: UnsettlingGenderReveal]] in LSL 6 can be seen as such, considering the [[spoiler: LGBT community]] wasn't as vocal as it is nowadays.

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* ValuesDissonance: Larry's reaction to Shablee's [[spoiler: UnsettlingGenderReveal]] in LSL 6 can be seen as such, considering the [[spoiler: LGBT community]] wasn't as vocal as it is nowadays. However, Larry reaction is normal for someone who is not gay (and possibly raped/molested in more orifices than one). The use of rape/transvestite as comedy would be the actual value Value Dissonance, and be less likely to be used in modern comedy (South Park excluded).
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* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: Bizarrely, ''Magna Cum Laude'' for it's emphasis on gross-out humor and such, has one of the sweeter moments in the series with Morgan the Adorkable Librarian. Not only do her and Larry Lovage have quite a few things in common with their hobbies, they have SURPRISINGLY cute chemistry and the ending is genuinely sweet (Well...for a Larry game that is). There is a reason most players tend to choose her as the final girl in the game.

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* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: Bizarrely, ''Magna Cum Laude'' for it's emphasis on gross-out humor and such, has one of the sweeter moments routes in the series with Morgan the Adorkable Librarian. Not only do her and Larry Lovage have quite a few things in common with their hobbies, they have SURPRISINGLY cute chemistry and the ending is genuinely sweet (Well...for a Larry game that is). There is a reason most players tend to choose her as the final girl in the game.
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* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: Bizarrely, ''Magna Cum Laude'' for it's emphasis on gross-out humor and such, has one of the sweeter moments in the series with Morgan the Adorkable Librarian. Not only do her and Larry Lovage have quite a few things in common with their hobbies, they have SURPRISINGLY cute chemistry and the ending is genuinely sweet (Well...for a Larry game that is). There is a reason most players tend to choose her as the final girl in the game.
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* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight

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* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsightFunnyAneurysmMoment
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* TearJerker: For some, flushing the toilet while Drew is showering in LSL 7. This is especially jarring because Drew was probably the nicest of the girls Larry interacts with and was genuinely interested in him and seeing her leave Larry like that [[YouBastard makes you feel rather cruel for doing so]]. Too bad you [[CrueltyIsTheOnlyOption have to do this]] so you can [[ItMakesSenseInContext get mold for your kumquat quiche recipe]]. It really makes you wish the programmers put in an option to apologize to her later on for bonus points.

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* TearJerker: For some, flushing the toilet while Drew is showering in LSL 7. This is especially jarring because Drew was probably the nicest of the girls Larry interacts with and was genuinely interested in him and seeing her leave Larry like that [[YouBastard makes you feel rather cruel for doing so]]. Too bad you [[CrueltyIsTheOnlyOption have to do this]] so you can [[ItMakesSenseInContext get mold for your kumquat quiche recipe]]. It really makes you wish recipe]].
* ValuesDissonance: Larry's reaction to Shablee's [[spoiler: UnsettlingGenderReveal]] in LSL 6 can be seen as such, considering
the programmers put in an option to apologize to her later on for bonus points.[[spoiler: LGBT community]] wasn't as vocal as it is nowadays.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: LSL 2 only has Larry on a cruise ship for long enough to escape his AbhorrentAdmirer roommate. LSL 7 revisits this general setting to give it the attention it deserves.

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