History YMMV / KirbyAndTheForgottenLand

* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Fecto Forgo crossed this by revealing they mind-controlled Leongar into [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaving hundreds of Waddle Dees]], then [[TheAssimilator assimilating Leongar and several members of the Beast Pack]] — [[UngratefulBastard without any care for their genuine efforts to help them]] — just to get to Elfilin.]] If it that wasn't enough, then [[spoiler:they definitely did cross it when, in an act of desperation, they decide to open a giant portal to Popstar, intending to make a ColonyDrop with both planets, [[EvilIsPetty just to get rid of Kirby and his friends]]]].

** Some newcomers to the series have said that the game's finale involving [[spoiler:a [[SurpriseCreepy terrifying]] fight against an EldritchAbomination]] is a nice change of pace from the typical ''Kirby'' formula. Among the fanbase, however, it's [[VileVillainSaccharineShow just another Friday]], especially considering [[VideoGame/KirbyStarAllies the previous game]] had [[spoiler:what's heavily implied to be a ''{{God|OfEvil}}'']] as its final boss. Though the distinct [[BodyHorror Sci]]-[[TheAssimilator Fi]] presentation of [[spoiler:Fecto Forgo]] is seen as a welcome change of pace, as pretty much all of the prior [[spoiler:EldritchAbomination enemies, even Star Dream]] tended to have a distinct fantasy aesthetic much like the rest of the series.

** Evil Elfilin [[labelnote:Explanation (spoilers)]]Since the series has had a common tradition of cutesy characters being evil, either secretly (Marx, Magolor) or openly (Taranza, Susie, the three Mage-Sisters), fans immediately began half-joking that new ally [[RidiculouslyCuteCritter Elfilin]] will actually be a nefarious villain, or wondering what kind of EldritchAbomination he'll turn into. He turns out to have been the other half of an EldritchAbomination, but remains loyal to Kirby when not being controlled.[[/labelnote]]

*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_9U52WivmI Kirby's Got The Touch]][[labelnote:Explanation (Spoilers!)]]People also noticed that the above mentioned BigBadassRig looks similar to [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Optimus Prime]]'s vehicle mode, even having flame decals like the live-action version. Cue nicknames like Optimus Kirby and Kirby-timus Prime, and editing the audio to use "The Touch" from ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie''.[[/labelnote]]

** [[spoiler:The announcer in Lab Discovera]] isn't the first time [[spoiler:human voice acting]] was used in a Kirby game. Not counting the [[Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa anime]], there was actually [[spoiler:a decent amount on ''VideoGame/KirbysEpicYarn'' thanks to the narration in the cutscenes, and ''VideoGame/KirbysAvalanche'', with the occasional voice lines playing during matches]].

* DracoInLeatherPants: The BigBad, [[spoiler:Fecto Elfilis]], is perhaps the nastiest villain in the entire franchise, being [[spoiler:a sociopathic alien invader who enslaves the Waddle Dees, assimilates the Beast Pack when they are no longer of use to them, and even attempts to kill Kirby by [[ColonyDrop hurling a planet at him]] out of spite at losing.]] But if you look at fanart of them from the Japanese fanbase, you're just as likely to see them [[https://cdn.donmai.us/sample/81/7d/__elfilin_and_fecto_elfilis_kirby_and_1_more_drawn_by_user_syfr4477__sample-817d271982e09632b11c5e434dcf2e3a.jpg trying to cut a cake]] or [[https://cdn.donmai.us/sample/0f/8b/__kirby_meta_knight_king_dedede_bandana_waddle_dee_elfilin_and_1_more_kirby_and_1_more_drawn_by_panchracomeon__sample-0f8bc188839796f3963187d7d1cced90.jpg eating apples with Kirby and friends]].

** Carby[[labelnote:Explanation]]Thanks to Mouthful Mode, Kirby is able to [[https://assets-prd.ignimgs.com/2022/02/09/carby-1644450985507.jpg swallow the entire top half of a car]] and use it as transportation. Car-Mouth Kirby (as called in an in-game collectible) quickly became dubbed as "Carby" (or "Karby"), with fans immediately latching onto the concept due to the hilarious absurdity of a creature as small as Kirby being able to [[DinnerDeformation fit an entire car into their mouth]] (or half of it at least). Images of Kirby swallowing [[WesternAnimation/{{Cars}} Lightning McQueen]] were [[https://twitter.com/FourtyFingers/status/1491558466779062273?s=20&t=DVC3NeBfWjYc1uuF87-VlA especially]] [[https://twitter.com/meeshell_t/status/1491546882274824192?s=20&t=a5InMKZDcgWRDtyxhS3suQ common]].[[/labelnote]]

** The ending to [[spoiler:Chaos Elfilis's fight]], where [[spoiler:Elfilis turns into a tiny speck of light that gets absorbed by Elfilin]], has led to many interpretations of [[spoiler:Elfilis]]'s character. The associated figure description says that [[spoiler:Elfilis's soul willingly returned itself to Elfilin]], but fans are unclear on whether this means [[spoiler:Elfilis is a GracefulLoser who pulled a proper HeelFaceTurn, or that they're still evil and they finally [[PyrrhicVictory got what they wanted]]. A third camp thinks that they simply [[KnowWhenToFoldEm knew when to give in]] to their heroic half, regardless of their alignment]]. The Japanese, Chinese and Korean versions are a bit more clear on some areas, and less so in others: These versions say that [[spoiler:Elfilis was ''reborn'' as a speck of light, and is more ambiguous in the phrasing of whether they "willingly" returned to Elfilin]].

** Washed-Up Kirby[[labelnote:Explanation]]The reveal trailer had Kirby washed up on a beach. As this is a well-used trope, people edited the picture of Kirby washed up to include other characters like [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening Link]], VideoGame/CrashBandicoot, [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure Sonic]], and [[VideoGame/{{Ys}} Adol Christin]].[[/labelnote]]

** Some newcomers to the series have said that the game's finale involving [[spoiler:a [[SurpriseCreepy terrifying]] fight against an EldritchAbomination]] is a nice change of pace from the typical ''Kirby'' formula. Among the fanbase, however, it's [[VileVillainSaccharineShow just another Friday]], especially considering [[VideoGame/KirbyStarAllies the previous game]] had [[spoiler:what's heavily implied to be a ''{{God|OfEvil}}'']] as its final boss. Though the distinct [[BodyHorror Sci]]-[[TheAssimilator Fi]] presentation of [[spoiler:Fecto Forgo]] is seen as a welcome change of pace, as pretty much all of the prior [[spoiler: EldritchAbomination enemies, even Star Dream]] tended to have a distinct fantasy aesthetic much like the rest of the series.

** Dedede's redesign is not entirely new to this game. The design is very close to his look from ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand3'' and ''VideoGame/Kirby64TheCrystalShards'',
though the designers [[https://gigi9714.wordpress.com/2022/07/31/translation-of-the-kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-interview-from-the-june-2022-edition-of-nintendo-dream/ have admitted]] that they weren't intentionally invoking that design and it's more of a happy coincidence.

** The BigBad, [[spoiler:Fecto Elfilis]], has a positive reception among furries by virtue of [[spoiler:its sleek, brightly colored design, which incorporates the features of [[MixAndMatchCritters lots of different animals]]. For example, it has a fox's tail, deer-like horns, and a fluffy fur "scarf" around its neck.]] Some have jokingly compared it to fursonas they've seen elsewhere on the internet.

** Several fans noticed the opening notes to "Roar of Dedede" sound incredibly similar to [[Franchise/{{Godzilla}} Rodan's]] theme. It's hilariously fitting seeing as how both of them are bird-like.

* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Fecto Forgo crossed this by revealing they mind-controlled Leongar into [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaving hundreds of Waddle Dees]], then [[TheAssimilator assimilating Leongar and several members of the Beast Pack]] — [[UngratefulBastard without any care for their genuine efforts to help them]] — just to get to Elfilin.]]
** And if it that wasn't enough, then [[spoiler:they definitely did cross it when, in an act of desperation, they decide to open a giant portal to Popstar, intending to make a ColonyDrop with both planets, [[EvilIsPetty just to get rid of Kirby and his friends]]]].

** Dedede's redesign is not new to this game. The design originated from ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamLand3'' and ''VideoGame/Kirby64TheCrystalShards''.

*** This also paints the action of trying to [[spoiler:collide Popstar into The New World in a different light. Was Elfilis really doing it out of spite? Or did they decide that they would prefer to [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled get obliterated in a planet collision]] or [[SuicideByCop by Kirby's hand]] than to be [[FateWorseThanDeath trapped in that test tube again?]]]]

*** This also paints the action of trying to [[spoiler:collide Popstar into The New World in a different light. Was Elfilis really doing it out of spite? Or did they decide that they would prefer to [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled get obliterated in a planet collision]] than to be [[FateWorseThanDeath trapped in that test tube again?]]]]

*** This also paints the action of trying to [[spoiler:collide Popstar into The New World in a different light. Was Elfilis really doing it out of spite? Or did they decide that it would be better to [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled get obliterated in a planet collision]] than to be [[FateWorseThanDeath trapped in that test tube again?]]]]

*** This also paints the action of trying to [[spoiler:collide Popstar into The New World in a different light. Was Elfilis really doing it out of spite, or did they decide that it would be better to [[BetterToDieThanBeKilled get obliterated in a planet collision]] than to be [[FateWorseThanDeath trapped in that test tube again.]]]]

* BreatherBoss: [[spoiler:Fecto Forgo]], being in between [[spoiler:[[PreFinalBoss Leongar]] and [[FinalBoss Fecto Elfilis]]]], is one of the easiest bosses in the game despite the memorable shock factor of its introduction. Its two attacks are slow and easy to dodge, and it doesn't have a second phase or a lot of health. [[spoiler:This is likely invoked, because it's in its incomplete form and its real form is [[ThatOneBoss much worse.]]]]

** One Website/{{YouTube}} comment puts [[spoiler:Fecto Elfilis]] in a different light; [[spoiler:was Elfilis truly malevolent, or did they come in peace before the inhabitants of the New World ''attacked them''? Then, after a brief struggle, during which the story was twisted to make ''[[HeroWithBadPublicity Elfilis]]'' seem like the bad guy in this situation, the alien was captured and experimented on for more than thirty years, with the constant cheery voice of the tour guide finally driving them completely to insanity, unable to escape the voice of the tour guide even in their dreams. It would explain Fecto Forgo’s [[{{Determinator}} undying will]] to escape Lab Discovera, their attempts growing increasingly desperate as they doggedly refuse to be put back in that situation again, and in the end would mean they tragically [[MakeYourOwnVillain became the very villain the New World's inhabitants made them out to be.]]]]

** One Website/{{YouTube}} comment puts [[spoiler:Fecto Elfilis]] in a different light; [[spoiler:was Elfilis truly malevolent, or did they come in peace before the inhabitants of the New World ''attacked them''? Then, after a brief struggle, during which the story was twisted to make ''[[HeroWithBadPublicity Elfilis]]'' seem like the bad guy in this situation, the alien was captured and experimented on for more than thirty years, with the constant cheery voice of the tour guide finally driving them completely to insanity, unable to escape the voice of the tour guide even in their dreams. It would explain Fecto Forgo’s [[{{Determinator}} undying will]] to escape Lab Discovera, their attempts growing increasingly desperate as they doggedly refuse to be put back in that situation again.]]

*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn-Gv3NxIh4 Kirby's Got The Touch]][[labelnote:Explanation (Spoilers!)]]People also noticed that the above mentioned BigBadassRig looks similar to [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Optimus Prime]]'s vehicle mode, even having flame decals like the live-action version. Cue nicknames like Optimus Kirby and Kirby-timus Prime, and editing the audio to use "The Touch" from ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie''.[[/labelnote]]

* BrokenBase: Dedede's redesign for this game is arguably his most divisive redesign yet (which is saying something given how [[DependingOnTheArtist inconsistent Dedede's design is]]). Some fans love the design for effectively being a modernized version of Dedede's design from ''VideoGame/KirbysDreamland3'' and ''VideoGame/{{Kirby 64|The Crystal Shards}}'' and finds it to be very endearing, unique and adorable looking, while others find it to look very weird and OffModel compared to the usual look for Dedede and are baffled as to why HAL overhauled his design again when he already had a perfectly fine and well received design in ''VideoGame/KirbyStarAllies'' and ''VideoGame/KirbyFighters2''.

** Even though this is the first main series game where a Whispy Woods {{Expy}} isn't the first boss (which Gorimondo takes that place instead), Whispy Woods himself wasn't the first boss in ''VideoGame/KirbysEpicYarn'', ''VideoGame/TeamKirbyClashDeluxe'', and ''VideoGame/SuperKirbyClash'', to name a few examples.

** Some newcomers to the series have said that the game's finale involving [[spoiler:a [[SurpriseCreepy terrifying]] fight against an EldritchAbomination]] is a nice change of pace from the typical ''Kirby'' formula. Among the fanbase, however, it's [[VileVillainSaccharineShow just another Friday]], especially considering [[VideoGame/KirbyStarAllies the previous game]] had [[spoiler:what's heavily implied to be a ''{{God|OfEvil}}'']] as its final boss.

** Sword has always been the JackOfAllStats in terms of Copy Abilities, but its evolutions turn Sword into the most powerful it's ever been in the series. Gigant Sword is basically Hammer with better range and even comes with a spiked shield when you guard that, [[AttackItsWeakPoint despite the]] [[InTheBack ability's namesake]], renders you fully invulnerable to all standard attacks (the tradeoff being that you cannot dodge with this ability) on top of being able to move while guarding, albeit very slowly. The spikes on the shield even do slight contact damage. Its charge attack stacks up with Hammer Flip on top of having better range and a slight shockwave effect. Meta Knight Sword ups the speed of a lot of its attacks and gives Kirby access to {{sword beam}}s, allowing for quick damage at a distance provided you have full health (or have the extra lifebar powerup active). [[spoiler:[[InfinityPlusOneSword Morpho Knight Sword]] is faster than the Meta Knight Sword, can grow to be even larger than the Gigant Sword when charged, it's capable of healing Kirby when using certain moves on enemies, gives Kirby a significantly improved dodge where he goes totally intangible for a good second, and its power and speed levels are already maxed, ''yet can still be upgraded to up its power past the maximum'' -- [[PurposefullyOverpowered what more needs to be said]]?]]

** I am going to split up into three [[labelnote:Explanation]]A memetic lyric sung by the FinalBoss in this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcs1sY0-Mzo infamous video]], which attempts to adapt their boss music to lyrics in the vein of Creator/ManOnTheInternet or Music/JunoSongs. It's... ''[[DreadfulMusician something]]''.[[/labelnote]]

** And if it that wasn't enough, then [[spoiler:they definitely did cross it when, in an act of desperation, they decide to open a giant portal to Dreamland, intending to make a ColonyDrop with both planets, [[EvilIsPetty just to get rid of Kirby and his friends]]]].

** One Website/{{YouTube}} comment puts [[spoiler:Fecto Elfilis]] in a different light; [[spoiler:was Elfilis truly malevolent, or did they come in peace before the inhabitants of the New World ''attacked them''? Then, after a brief struggle, during which the story was twisted to make ''Elfilis'' seem like the bad guy in this situation, the alien was captured and experimented on for more than thirty years, with the constant cheery voice of the tour guide finally driving them completely to insanity, unable to escape the voice of the tour guide even in their dreams. It would explain Fecto Forgo’s [[{{Determinator}} undying will]] to escape Lab Discovera, their attempts growing increasingly desperate as they doggedly refuse to be put back in that situation again]].