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* UnfortunateImplications: Oh, those poor wives/mothers/daughters of the Warrior character.
** Imagine being a wife, watching your beloved husband trudge off to certain doom in his mid-20s, to fail where dozens of generations of his fathers had also met their end. [[FridgeHorror Then having to tell your son to get ready for his turn]].
** Expanded upon in the novella where, at least in one case, it seems like the warriors only spend a month with their wives before going off to get revenge [[spoiler:or so everyone is brainwashed to believe.]]
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* GameBreaker: Heal magic can be this, particularly with the last magic ring as it gives you full health and can recharge several times in the course of one fight. Then again, consider the requirements to get it, it can also be considered as BraggingRightsReward.
** [[spoiler: Discover Bloodline -1, and you will gain the strongest set of equipment, able to far outstrip ''even the Infinity Blade itself''. You will smile with glee when you get to strike down the God King in mere seconds!]]

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* GameBreaker: Heal magic can be this, particularly with the last magic ring as it gives you full health and can recharge several times in the course of one fight. Then again, consider considering the requirements to get it, it can also be considered as BraggingRightsReward.
** [[spoiler: Discover [[spoiler:Discover Bloodline -1, and you will gain the strongest set of equipment, able to far outstrip ''even the Infinity Blade itself''. You will smile with glee when you get to strike down the God King in mere seconds!]]



** Alchemy in III brings us the Rare Health Potion: cheap to make (two blue berries and two butterflies), only 7 minutes to cook and restores 250 health ''per second''. There are very few enemies capable of matching this output in damage on you, making most fights trivial.

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** Alchemy in III brings us the Rare Health Potion: cheap to make (two blue berries and two butterflies), only 7 minutes to cook cook, and restores 250 health ''per second''. There are very few enemies capable of matching this output in damage on you, making most fights trivial.



* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The music that plays during the [[spoiler: Ryth]] fight is one of [[StarWars Duel of Fates]]. [[ShoutOut It's pretty easy]] [[LaserBlade to see why.]]
* ThatOneAttack: The God King's Fury attack can very well end a Bloodline then and there. It's tricky to parry, very difficult to dodge, and is capable of tearing through your entire health bar. It gets even worse in the final round when he starts using it every other attack pattern.

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The music that plays during the [[spoiler: Ryth]] [[spoiler:Ryth]] fight is one of [[StarWars Duel of Fates]]. [[ShoutOut It's pretty easy]] [[LaserBlade to see why.]]
* ThatOneAttack: The God King's Fury attack can very well end a Bloodline then and there. It's tricky to parry, very difficult to dodge, and is capable of tearing through your entire health bar. It gets even worse in the final round round, when he starts using it every other attack pattern.



** The sequel has a few of these, naturally, though the one that takes the cake is the Bog Giant, the tree trunk horror with the Vile Blade stuck in it that comes with the "Vault of Tears" expansion - thankfully, you can restart the fight if you die like a regular encounter. But it is horrifyingly fast for something so huge (you will need to get used to its speed to dodge and parry properly), has new attacks that can catch you off-guard, and when felled, it goes OneWingedAngel and transforms into the Moss Golem, a Monstrosity that will give you a hard time even if you mastered fighting the first form. Buffs used in the first battle will disappear at the subsequent battle and ''there is no break between them''. However, you will be rewarded a sword that rivals the Infinity Blade in attack power after that.

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** The sequel has a few of these, naturally, though the one that takes the cake is the Bog Giant, the tree trunk horror with the Vile Blade stuck in it that comes with the "Vault of Tears" expansion - -- thankfully, you can restart the fight if you die like a regular encounter. But it is horrifyingly fast for something so huge (you will need to get used to its speed to dodge and parry properly), has new attacks that can catch you off-guard, and when felled, it goes OneWingedAngel and transforms into the Moss Golem, a Monstrosity that will give you a hard time even if you mastered fighting the first form. Buffs used in the first battle will disappear at the subsequent battle and ''there is no break between them''. However, you will be rewarded with a sword that rivals the Infinity Blade in attack power after that.



** Expanded upon in the novella where, at least in one case, it seems like the warriors only spend a month with their wives before going off to get revenge [[spoiler: or so everyone is brainwashed to believe.]]

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** Expanded upon in the novella where, at least in one case, it seems like the warriors only spend a month with their wives before going off to get revenge [[spoiler: or [[spoiler:or so everyone is brainwashed to believe.]]
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** Also in the third game is Ryth. He's always overleveled to the point that one slash will kill you, and your gems and potions are rendered useless against him. You also have to use a Light weapon the first time you fight him - one of his attacks can only be blocked, so he'll take out your shield very quickly.
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** The sequel has a few of these, naturally, though the one that takes the cake is the Bog Giant, the tree trunk horror with the Vile Blade stuck in it that comes with the "Vault of Tears" expansion - thankfully, you can restart the fight if you die like a regular encounter. But it is horrifyingly fast for something so huge (you will need to get used to its speed to dodge and parry properly), has new attacks that can catch you off-guard, and when felled, it goes OneWingedAngel and transforms into the Moss Golem, a Monstrosity that will give you a hard time even if you mastered fighting the first form. Your reward? A sword that rivals the Infinity Blade in attack power.

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** The sequel has a few of these, naturally, though the one that takes the cake is the Bog Giant, the tree trunk horror with the Vile Blade stuck in it that comes with the "Vault of Tears" expansion - thankfully, you can restart the fight if you die like a regular encounter. But it is horrifyingly fast for something so huge (you will need to get used to its speed to dodge and parry properly), has new attacks that can catch you off-guard, and when felled, it goes OneWingedAngel and transforms into the Moss Golem, a Monstrosity that will give you a hard time even if you mastered fighting the first form. Your reward? A Buffs used in the first battle will disappear at the subsequent battle and ''there is no break between them''. However, you will be rewarded a sword that rivals the Infinity Blade in attack power.power after that.
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** The third game has Therin. He uses the same BladeOnAStick style as the Fel Siren, an enemy considered to have one of the harder attack patterns to fight against... only Therin likes to do a lot of feints, tricking you into doing the wrong counter all the time.
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** Alchemy in III brings us the Rare Health Potion: cheap to make (two blue berries and two butterflies), only 7 minutes to cook and restores 250 health ''per second''. There are very few enemies capable of matching this output in damage on you, making most fights trivial.

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** [[UpToEleven Especially]] in the [[NintendoHard negative rebirths, where there could be some nasty compulsory XP bonuses like 'Do 20 scratches', 'Kill Titan with scratch',... mashed into a monstrosity.

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** [[UpToEleven Especially]] in the [[NintendoHard negative rebirths, rebirths]], where there could be some nasty compulsory XP bonuses mashed into a monstrosity like 'Do 20 scratches', 'Kill Titan with scratch',... mashed into a monstrosity.Good luck.



* GoodBadBugs: You can retry the fight against the God King by exiting the game and killing the app before he runs you through. Has never been fixed, likely due to the outcry it would cause.

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* GoodBadBugs: You can retry the fight fights against the God King bosses by exiting the game and killing the app before he runs they run you through. Has never been fixed, likely due to the outcry it would cause.

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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Averted due to the experience system detailed above. If you keep using a mastered weapon, you're missing out on EXP and slowing your leveling to a crawl. You have to constantly switch equipment to continue leveling up.

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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Averted due to the experience system detailed above. If you keep using a mastered weapon, item, you're missing out on EXP and slowing your leveling to a crawl. You have to constantly switch equipment to continue leveling up.levelling up.
* DemonicSpiders: Monstrosities in general. High health and nasty attack patterns which deal very high damage and cannot be parried.
** [[UpToEleven Especially]] in the [[NintendoHard negative rebirths, where there could be some nasty compulsory XP bonuses like 'Do 20 scratches', 'Kill Titan with scratch',... mashed into a monstrosity.



** [[spoiler: Discover Bloodline -1, and you will gain the strongest set of equipment, able to far outstrip ''even the Infinity Blade itself''. You will smile with glee when you get to strike down the God-King in mere seconds!]]
** In II with the Vault of Tears expansion, the Holy Ring is definitely this. It does 10000 irresistible holy damage that can also heal you the same amount as the damage being done.
* GoodBadBugs: You can retry the fight against the God-King by exiting the game and killing the app before he runs you through. Has never been fixed, likely due to the outcry it would cause.

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** [[spoiler: Discover Bloodline -1, and you will gain the strongest set of equipment, able to far outstrip ''even the Infinity Blade itself''. You will smile with glee when you get to strike down the God-King God King in mere seconds!]]
** In II with the Vault of Tears expansion, the Holy Ring Band is definitely this. It does 10000 irresistible holy damage that can also heal you the same amount as the damage being done.
* GoodBadBugs: You can retry the fight against the God-King God King by exiting the game and killing the app before he runs you through. Has never been fixed, likely due to the outcry it would cause.



* ThatOneAttack: The God-King's Fury attack can very well end a Bloodline then and there. It's tricky to parry, very difficult to dodge, and is capable of tearing through your entire health bar. It gets even worse in the final round when he starts using it every other attack pattern.

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* ThatOneAttack: The God-King's God King's Fury attack can very well end a Bloodline then and there. It's tricky to parry, very difficult to dodge, and is capable of tearing through your entire health bar. It gets even worse in the final round when he starts using it every other attack pattern.



** The Deathless Kings. The weakest of them is level 150.


* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: ''Ausar'', pre-MemoryGambit. In the first game, there's a scene where Raidriar tells Archarin, after the latter joins him, that he's worried about the rising power of less principled Deathless--the whole reason he needs the Infinity Blade. That's ''nothing'' compared to the sheer hatred and disgust Raidriar has for Ausar, an utterly honorless being who apparently didn't get dubbed "Ausar the Terrible" by history, and "the vilest evil this world has ever known" by the Archivist, for nothing. That he ''killed his own wife'' may just be part of the above-water part of the iceberg...]] There's a ''reason'' his original trademark equipment is called the "Vile" set.
** [[spoiler:Ausar]] is ''heavily'' implied to be this in both the novel and the game's sequel, not only by everyone who speaks of him, but also [[spoiler:the dark thoughts]] that Siris is getting throughout the novel. However, it is also implied that [[spoiler:his MemoryGambit is his attempt at atoning for what he has done.]]
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: The music that plays during the [[spoiler: Ryth]] fight is one of [[StarWars Duel of Fates]]. [[ShoutOut It's pretty easy]] [[LaserBlade to see why.]]
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* GoodBadBugs: You can retry the fight against the God-King by exiting the game and killing the app before he runs you through. Has never been fixed, likely due to the outcry it would cause.

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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Averted due to the experience system detailed above. If you keep using a mastered weapon, you're missing out on EXP and slowing your leveling to a crawl. You have to constantly switch equipment to continue leveling up.



* PlayerPreferredPattern: Averted due to the experience system detailed above. If you keep using a mastered weapon, you're missing out on EXP and slowing your leveling to a crawl. You have to constantly switch equipment to continue leveling up.
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** [[spoiler: Discover Bloodline -1, and you will gain the strongest set of equipment, able to far outstrip ''even the Infinity Blade itself''. You will smile with glee when you get to strike down the God-King in mere seconds!]]
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* ClippedWingAngel: [[spoiler:Once the Ancestor gets out of his Mech, he is utterly ''pathetic''. Not only is his damage output feeble, and his health only a third of his previous form, but his attack patterns are no different than the Iron Guards/Crusaders/Assassins you have been fighting the entire game. The biggest challenge is having enough health from the end of the Zero Mech fight.]]
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** [[spoiler:Ausar]] is ''heavily'' implied to be this in both the novel and the game's sequel, not only by everyone who speaks of him, but also [[spoiler:the dark thoughts]] that Siris is getting throughout the novel. However, it is also implied that [[spoiler:his MemoryGambit is his attempt at atoning for what he has done.]] This trope ends up leading to...

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** [[spoiler:Ausar]] is ''heavily'' implied to be this in both the novel and the game's sequel, not only by everyone who speaks of him, but also [[spoiler:the dark thoughts]] that Siris is getting throughout the novel. However, it is also implied that [[spoiler:his MemoryGambit is his attempt at atoning for what he has done.]] This trope ends up leading to...]]
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**[[spoiler:Ausar]] is ''heavily'' implied to be this in both the novel and the game's sequel, not only by everyone who speaks of him, but also [[spoiler:the dark thoughts]] that Siris is getting throughout the novel. However, it is also implied that [[spoiler:his MemoryGambit is his attempt at atoning for what he has done.]] This trope ends up leading to...
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* PlayerPreferredPattern: Averted due to the experience system detailed above. If you keep using a mastered weapon, you're missing out on EXP and slowing your leveling to a crawl. You have to constantly switch equipment to continue leveling up.

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: ''Ausar'', pre-MemoryGambit. In the first game, there's a scene where Raidriar tells Archarin, after the latter joins him, that he's worried about the rising power of less principled Deathless--the whole reason he needs the Infinity Blade. That's ''nothing'' compared to the sheer hatred and disgust Raidriar has for Ausar, an utterly honorless being who apparently didn't get dubbed "Ausar the Terrible" by history, and "the vilest evil this world has ever known" by the Archivist, for nothing. That he ''killed his own wife'' may just be part of the above-water part of the iceberg...]]

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: ''Ausar'', pre-MemoryGambit. In the first game, there's a scene where Raidriar tells Archarin, after the latter joins him, that he's worried about the rising power of less principled Deathless--the whole reason he needs the Infinity Blade. That's ''nothing'' compared to the sheer hatred and disgust Raidriar has for Ausar, an utterly honorless being who apparently didn't get dubbed "Ausar the Terrible" by history, and "the vilest evil this world has ever known" by the Archivist, for nothing. That he ''killed his own wife'' may just be part of the above-water part of the iceberg...]]]] There's a ''reason'' his original trademark equipment is called the "Vile" set.
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: ''Ausar'', pre-MemoryGambit. In the first game, there's a scene where Raidriar tells Archarin, after the latter joins him, that he's worried about the rising power of less principled Deathless--the whole reason he needs the Infinity Blade. That's ''nothing'' compared to the sheer hatred and disgust Raidriar has for Ausar, an utterly honorless being who apparently didn't get dubbed "Ausar the Terrible" by history, and "the vilest evil this world has ever known" by the Archivist, for nothing. That he ''killed his own wife'' may just be part of the above-water part of the iceberg...]]
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* GameBreaker: Heal magic can be this, particularly with the last magic ring as it gives you full health and can recharge several times in the course of one fight.

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* GameBreaker: Heal magic can be this, particularly with the last magic ring as it gives you full health and can recharge several times in the course of one fight. Then again, consider the requirements to get it, it can also be considered as BraggingRightsReward.
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** In II with the Vault of Tears expansion, the Holy Ring is definitely this. It does 10000 irresistible holy damage that can also heal you the same amount as the damage being done.
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** The sequel has a few of these, naturally, though the one that takes the cake is the Bog Giant, the tree trunk horror with the Vile Blade stuck in it that comes with the "Vault of Tears" expansion - thankfully, you can restart the fight if you die like a regular encounter. But it is horrifyingly fast for something so huge (you will need to get used to its speed to dodge and parry properly), has new attacks that can catch you off-guard, and when felled, it spawns the Moss Golem, a Monstrosity that will give you a hard time even if you mastered fighting the first form. Your reward? A sword that rivals the Infinity Blade in attack power.

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** The sequel has a few of these, naturally, though the one that takes the cake is the Bog Giant, the tree trunk horror with the Vile Blade stuck in it that comes with the "Vault of Tears" expansion - thankfully, you can restart the fight if you die like a regular encounter. But it is horrifyingly fast for something so huge (you will need to get used to its speed to dodge and parry properly), has new attacks that can catch you off-guard, and when felled, it spawns goes OneWingedAngel and transforms into the Moss Golem, a Monstrosity that will give you a hard time even if you mastered fighting the first form. Your reward? A sword that rivals the Infinity Blade in attack power.
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** The sequel has a few of these, naturally, though the one that takes the cake is that tree-monster with the Vile Blade stuck in it that comes with the "Vault of Tears" expansion - thankfully, you can restart the fight if you die like a regular encounter. But it is horrifyingly fast for something so huge (you will need to get used to its speed to dodge and parry properly), has new attacks that can catch you off-guard, and second, Monstrosity-like form that will give you a hard time even if you mastered fighting the first form. Your reward? A sword that rivals the Infinity Blade in attack power.

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** The sequel has a few of these, naturally, though the one that takes the cake is that tree-monster the Bog Giant, the tree trunk horror with the Vile Blade stuck in it that comes with the "Vault of Tears" expansion - thankfully, you can restart the fight if you die like a regular encounter. But it is horrifyingly fast for something so huge (you will need to get used to its speed to dodge and parry properly), has new attacks that can catch you off-guard, and second, Monstrosity-like form when felled, it spawns the Moss Golem, a Monstrosity that will give you a hard time even if you mastered fighting the first form. Your reward? A sword that rivals the Infinity Blade in attack power.
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* The sequel has a few of these, naturally, though the one that takes the cake is that tree-monster with the Vile Blade stuck in it that comes with the "Vault of Tears" expansion - thankfully, you can restart the fight if you die like a regular encounter. But it is horrifyingly fast for something so huge (you will need to get used to its speed to dodge and parry properly), has new attacks that can catch you off-guard, and second, Monstrosity-like form that will give you a hard time even if you mastered fighting the first form. Your reward? A sword that rivals the Infinity Blade in attack power.

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* ** The sequel has a few of these, naturally, though the one that takes the cake is that tree-monster with the Vile Blade stuck in it that comes with the "Vault of Tears" expansion - thankfully, you can restart the fight if you die like a regular encounter. But it is horrifyingly fast for something so huge (you will need to get used to its speed to dodge and parry properly), has new attacks that can catch you off-guard, and second, Monstrosity-like form that will give you a hard time even if you mastered fighting the first form. Your reward? A sword that rivals the Infinity Blade in attack power.
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* The sequel has a few of these, naturally, though the one that takes the cake is that tree-monster with the Vile Blade stuck in it that comes with the "Vault of Tears" expansion - thankfully, you can restart the fight if you die like a regular encounter. But it is horrifyingly fast for something so huge (you will need to get used to its speed to dodge and parry properly), has new attacks that can catch you off-guard, and second, Monstrosity-like form that will give you a hard time even if you mastered fighting the first form. Your reward? A sword that rivals the Infinity Blade in attack power.
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** Imagine being a wife, watching your beloved husband trudge off to certain doom in his mid-20s, to fail where dozens of generations of his fathers had also met their end. [[FridgeHorror Then having to tell your son to get ready for his turn]].

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** Imagine being a wife, watching your beloved husband trudge off to certain doom in his mid-20s, to fail where dozens of generations of his fathers had also met their end. [[FridgeHorror Then having to tell your son to get ready for his turn]].turn]].
** Expanded upon in the novella where, at least in one case, it seems like the warriors only spend a month with their wives before going off to get revenge [[spoiler: or so everyone is brainwashed to believe.]]
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* ClippedWingAngel: [[spoiler: Once the Ancestor gets out of his Mech, he is utterly ''pathetic''. Not only is his damage output feeble, and his health only a third of his previous form, but his attack patterns are no different than the Iron Guards/Crusaders/Assassins you have been fighting the entire game. The biggest challenge is having enough health from the end of the Zero Mech fight.]]

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* ClippedWingAngel: [[spoiler: Once [[spoiler:Once the Ancestor gets out of his Mech, he is utterly ''pathetic''. Not only is his damage output feeble, and his health only a third of his previous form, but his attack patterns are no different than the Iron Guards/Crusaders/Assassins you have been fighting the entire game. The biggest challenge is having enough health from the end of the Zero Mech fight.]]
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* ClippedWingAngel: [[spoiler: Once the Ancestor gets out of his Mech, he is utterly ''pathetic''. Not only is his damage output feeble, and his health only a third of his previous form, but his attack patterns are no different than the Iron Guards/Crusaders/Assassins you have been fighting the entire game. The biggest challenge is having enough health from the end of the Zero Mech fight.]]
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* ThatOneAttack: The God-King's Fury attack can very well end a Bloodline then and there. It's tricky to parry, very difficult to dodge, and is capable of tearing through your entire health bar. It gets even worse in the final round when he starts using it every other attack pattern.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Oh, those poor wives/mothers/daughters of the Warrior character.
** Imagine being a wife, watching your beloved husband trudge off to certain doom in his mid-20s, to fail where dozens of generations of his fathers had also met their end. [[FridgeHorror Then having to tell your son to get ready for his turn]].

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