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* AccidentalAesop: For a game trying to be as edgy as possible as the Antagonist performs his massacre, the game shows [[NintendoHard no mercy towards the player]], especially in the later levels where SWAT and the military are introduced. This has the unintended message of discouraging would-be mass murderers of how they won't get very far and [[LaserGuidedKarma they will quickly fail due to law enforcement]].

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* AccidentalAesop: For a game trying to be as edgy as possible as the Antagonist performs his massacre, the game shows [[NintendoHard no mercy towards the player]], especially in the later levels where SWAT and the military are introduced. This has the unintended message of discouraging would-be mass murderers of how they won't get very far and [[LaserGuidedKarma they will quickly fail fail]] [[IFoughtTheLawAndTheLawWon due to law enforcement]].
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The game's premise has gotten the gaming community into an uproar. For the longest time, the most anyone talked about was how horrible and sickening the premise for the game was, rather than if the game was even ''good'' gameplay wise or not. The controversy has not gone away even after the game's release.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: The game's premise has gotten the gaming community into an uproar. For the longest time, the most anyone talked about was how horrible and sickening the premise for the game was, was (along with the game being released around the time mass shootings were on the rise in America), rather than if the game was even ''good'' gameplay wise or not. The controversy has not gone away even after the game's release.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: While '''seriously''' NotSafeForWork, [[https://youtu.be/JUqXbSpyrwA Particular Hatred]] by Iperyt is an intense and savage metal track to close the game out on.

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* IAmNotShazam: The main character is called "The Antagonist". His name isn't actually "Not Important". This very site made that mistake several times.



* MyNameIsNotShazam: The main character is called "The Antagonist". His name isn't actually "Not Important". This very site made that mistake several times.



* SignatureScene: The Antagonist's introduction, where he waxes nihilistically about how humanity must die and he's willing to slaughter as many people as he can until he finally dies himself. It instantly became the game's EstablishingSeriesMoment, albeit [[{{Narm}} for]] [[MyNameIsNotShazam unintended]] [[MemeticMutation reasons]].

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* SignatureScene: The Antagonist's introduction, where he waxes nihilistically about how humanity must die and he's willing to slaughter as many people as he can until he finally dies himself. It instantly became the game's EstablishingSeriesMoment, albeit [[{{Narm}} for]] [[MyNameIsNotShazam [[IAmNotShazam unintended]] [[MemeticMutation reasons]].
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* BrokenBase: The decision by the ESRB to give the game an [[UsefulNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB Adults-Only rating]] has sparked much debate as to whether ''Hatred'' deserves it or not. Many people including the developers certainly do not agree with the rating, while others believe it fits. Whether the rating hindered the game's success or not is to be determined, but this does mean that, should the developers consider porting the game to consoles, it might have to have content cut (as all three major console manufacturers do not permit "AO" rated games to be sold on their systems).

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* BrokenBase: The decision by the ESRB to give the game an [[UsefulNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB [[MediaNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB Adults-Only rating]] has sparked much debate as to whether ''Hatred'' deserves it or not. Many people including the developers certainly do not agree with the rating, while others believe it fits. Whether the rating hindered the game's success or not is to be determined, but this does mean that, should the developers consider porting the game to consoles, it might have to have content cut (as all three major console manufacturers do not permit "AO" rated games to be sold on their systems).



* CriticalDissonance: ''Hatred'' was given mostly negative reviews from critics, with many being very harsh to the game's faults. That didn't stop the game from being both the top-selling game on UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} upon its release, and getting a 9/10 consumer rating on the same site, though.

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* CriticalDissonance: ''Hatred'' was given mostly negative reviews from critics, with many being very harsh to the game's faults. That didn't stop the game from being both the top-selling game on UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} Platform/{{Steam}} upon its release, and getting a 9/10 consumer rating on the same site, though.



* RatedMForMoney: Much of the game's attention came from its extreme level of violence, becoming the first game to be released with [[UsefulNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB an AO rating]] for violence alone, rather than explicit sex or gambling with real money.[[note]]''VideoGame/ThrillKill'' received an AO rating for violence, but was cancelled before release. The PC version of ''VideoGame/{{Manhunt}} 2'' was also rated AO partly for its violence, but also for explicit sexual content.[[/note]] This backfired somewhat though, as it prevented it from being released on consoles.

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* RatedMForMoney: Much of the game's attention came from its extreme level of violence, becoming the first game to be released with [[UsefulNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB [[MediaNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB an AO rating]] for violence alone, rather than explicit sex or gambling with real money.[[note]]''VideoGame/ThrillKill'' received an AO rating for violence, but was cancelled before release. The PC version of ''VideoGame/{{Manhunt}} 2'' was also rated AO partly for its violence, but also for explicit sexual content.[[/note]] This backfired somewhat though, as it prevented it from being released on consoles.
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** The EvilLaugh the Antagonist pulls off [[UnEvilLaugh leaves a lot to be desired]], considering his GutturalGrowler voice and the VocalDissonance.

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** The EvilLaugh the Antagonist pulls off [[UnEvilLaugh leaves a lot to be desired]], considering his GutturalGrowler guttural voice and the VocalDissonance.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Some theorize that the Antagonist is a ShellShockedVeteran due to his vast knowledge on weaponry and being able to control military vehicles easily, and his Hatred stems from the rise of homeless veterans.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Some theorize that the Antagonist is a ShellShockedVeteran due to his vast knowledge on weaponry and being able to control military vehicles easily, and his Hatred [[TitleDrop Hatred]] stems from the rise of homeless veterans.



* ClicheStorm: The game unashamedly tries to place the Antagonist under as many "edgy" cliches as humanly possible... And succeeds with flying colors.

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* ClicheStorm: The game unashamedly tries to place the Antagonist under as many "edgy" cliches as humanly possible... And succeeds with flying colors.at the cost of lacking any sort of identity or lasting impact beyond the controversy spawned.


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* SignatureScene: The Antagonist's introduction, where he waxes nihilistically about how humanity must die and he's willing to slaughter as many people as he can until he finally dies himself. It instantly became the game's EstablishingSeriesMoment, albeit [[{{Narm}} for]] [[MyNameIsNotShazam unintended]] [[MemeticMutation reasons]].
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** Many have already come to call the Antagonist "Not Important" due to his monologue in the trailer.

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** Many have already come decided to call take the Antagonist Antagonist's statement of "my name is not important" literally, and refer to him as "Not Important" due to his monologue in the trailer.Important".
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** The Antagonist's long black hair and his [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]], [[{{Narm}} narmy]] attitude has drawn a lot of comparisons between him and [[Film/TheRoom Tommy Wiseau.]]

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** The Antagonist's long black hair and his [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]], [[{{Narm}} narmy]] attitude has drawn a lot of comparisons between him and [[Film/TheRoom [[Film/TheRoom2003 Tommy Wiseau.]]
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* ShockFatigue: It goes without saying when the game is a literal MurderSimulator. What makes it worse is that the game is ''only'' about massacring innocents all while they scream and cry, and there's little BlackComedy to alleviate (unlike ''VideoGame/Postal'' for example). Even many of the edgiest NightmareFetishist gamers find ''Hatred'' to be too much to stomach.

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* ShockFatigue: It goes without saying when the game is a literal MurderSimulator. What makes it worse is that the game is ''only'' about massacring innocents all while they scream and cry, and there's little BlackComedy to alleviate (unlike ''VideoGame/Postal'' ''VideoGame/{{Postal}}'' for example). Even many of the edgiest NightmareFetishist gamers find ''Hatred'' to be too much to stomach.
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* ShockFatigue: It goes without saying when the game is a literal MurderSimulator. What makes it worse is that the game is ''only'' about massacring innocents all while they scream and cry, and there's little BlackComedy to alleviate (unlike ''VideoGame/Postal'' for example). Even many of the edgiest NightmareFetishist gamers find ''Hatred'' to be too much to stomach.
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* HypeBacklash: ''Hatred'' owes most of its popularity to the controversy surrounding its premise as a literal MurderSimulator. But as the uproar among the gaming community slowly faded away, some among the audience concluded that the game on itself doesn't stand out in terms of quality, and opinions about its shock value are divided between those who think it's [[SoOkItsAverage nothing exceptional]] and those who think it's too "edgy" to be appreciated (even for someone who's not a MoralGuardian). This led people to think that ''Hatred'' took advantage of its surrounding controversy to receive too much undeserved publicity.

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* HypeBacklash: ''Hatred'' owes most of its popularity to the controversy surrounding its premise as a literal MurderSimulator. But as once the uproar among the gaming community slowly faded away, some among the audience players concluded that the game on itself doesn't stand out in terms of quality, and opinions about its shock value are divided between those who think it's [[SoOkItsAverage nothing exceptional]] and those who think it's too "edgy" to be appreciated (even for someone who's not a MoralGuardian). This led people to think that ''Hatred'' took advantage of its surrounding controversy to receive too much undeserved publicity.
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* RatedMForMoney: Much of the game's attention came from its extreme level of violence, becoming the first game to be released with [[UsefulNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB an AO rating]] for violence alone, rather than explicit sex or gambling with real money.[[note]]''VideoGame/ThrillKill'' received an AO rating for violence, but was cancelled before release. The PC version of ''VideoGame/Manhunt2'' was also rated AO partly for its violence, but also for explicit sexual content.[[/note]] This backfired somewhat though, as it prevented it from being released on consoles.

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* RatedMForMoney: Much of the game's attention came from its extreme level of violence, becoming the first game to be released with [[UsefulNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB an AO rating]] for violence alone, rather than explicit sex or gambling with real money.[[note]]''VideoGame/ThrillKill'' received an AO rating for violence, but was cancelled before release. The PC version of ''VideoGame/Manhunt2'' ''VideoGame/{{Manhunt}} 2'' was also rated AO partly for its violence, but also for explicit sexual content.[[/note]] This backfired somewhat though, as it prevented it from being released on consoles.
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* BrokenBase: The decision by the ESRB to give the game an [[UsefulNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB Adults-Only rating]] has sparked much debate as to whether ''Hatred'' deserves it or not. Many people including the developers certainly do not agree with the rating, while others believe it fits. Whether the rating hindered the games success or not is to be determined, but this does mean that, should the developers consider porting the game to consoles, it might have to have content cut (as all three major console manufacturers do not permit "AO" rated games to be sold on their systems).

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* BrokenBase: The decision by the ESRB to give the game an [[UsefulNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB Adults-Only rating]] has sparked much debate as to whether ''Hatred'' deserves it or not. Many people including the developers certainly do not agree with the rating, while others believe it fits. Whether the rating hindered the games game's success or not is to be determined, but this does mean that, should the developers consider porting the game to consoles, it might have to have content cut (as all three major console manufacturers do not permit "AO" rated games to be sold on their systems).
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* HypeBacklash: ''Hatred'' owes most of its popularity to the controversy surrounding its premise as a literal MurderSimulator. But as the uproar among the gaming community slowly faded away, some among the audience concluded that the game on itself doesn't stand out in terms of quality, and opinions about its shock value are divided between those who think it's [[SoOkItsAverage nothing exceptional]] and those who think it's too "edgy" to be appreciated (even for someone who's not a MoralGuardian). This led people to think that ''Hatred'' took advantage of its surrounding controversy to receive too much undeserved publicity.
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Not sure if this might be in poor taste given recent events, but it's something I noticed concerning the game...

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* AccidentalAesop: For a game trying to be as edgy as possible as the Antagonist performs his massacre, the game shows [[NintendoHard no mercy towards the player]], especially in the later levels where SWAT and the military are introduced. This has the unintended message of discouraging would-be mass murderers of how they won't get very far and [[LaserGuidedKarma they will quickly fail due to law enforcement]].
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* RatedMForMoney: Much of the game's attention came from its extreme level of violence, becoming the first game to be released with [[UsefulNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB an AO rating]] for violence alone, rather than explicit sex or gambling with real money.[[note]]''VideoGame/ThrillKill'' received an AO rating for violence, but was cancelled before release. The PC version of ''VideoGame/Manhunt2'' was also rated AO partly for its violence, but also for explicit sexual content.[[/note]] This backfired somewhat though, as it prevented it from being released on consoles.
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* FanNickname:
** Many have already come to call the Antagonist "Not Important" due to his monologue in the trailer.
** Some have also taken to calling him [[WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}} Nathan Explosion]] based on his appearance and his guttural voice. Thanks to a certain someone, some people also like to ironically call him [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation Jeffrey Cuddletrousers.]]
** The game is usually referred to by something involving "Edge," "Edgy," or something along those lines. Some people have also begun calling the protagonist "Edgy [=McEdgerson=]."
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* CatharsisFactor: What the developers are aiming for is a game where players can relieve their frustrations in life.

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* CatharsisFactor: What the developers are were aiming for is a game where players can relieve their frustrations in life.life. However not many people were receptive to the idea on account of killing innocent people instead of people who [[AssholeVictim actually deserve it]].
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Added to Memetic Mutation.

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** The Antagonist's long black hair and his [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]], [[{{Narm}} narmy]] attitude has drawn a lot of comparisons between him and [[Film/TheRoom Tommy Wiseau.]]
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* BrokenBase: The decision by the ESRB to give the game an AdultsOnlyRating has sparked much debate as to whether ''Hatred'' deserves it or not. Many people including the developers certainly do not agree with the rating, while others believe it fits. Whether the rating hindered the games success or not is to be determined, but this does mean that, should the developers consider porting the game to consoles, it might have to have content cut (as all three major console manufacturers do not permit "AO" rated games to be sold on their systems).

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* BrokenBase: The decision by the ESRB to give the game an AdultsOnlyRating [[UsefulNotes/AdultsOnlyRatingESRB Adults-Only rating]] has sparked much debate as to whether ''Hatred'' deserves it or not. Many people including the developers certainly do not agree with the rating, while others believe it fits. Whether the rating hindered the games success or not is to be determined, but this does mean that, should the developers consider porting the game to consoles, it might have to have content cut (as all three major console manufacturers do not permit "AO" rated games to be sold on their systems).

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** ''"My name is not important..."''
*** Also done with some homonyms, such as: "Nadim Pourtant", "Nothem Portent", or "Nadhim Poortint".

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** ''"My name is not important..."''
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"'' Also done with some homonyms, such as: "Nadim Pourtant", "Nothem Portent", or "Nadhim Poortint".
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* MoralEventHorizon: The Antagonist was already across this line from the very start of the gamee when he kills somebody that he drugged and kidnapped; it continues to escalate as he only gets worse from there by slaughtering his way through hundreds of civilians, cops and soldiers as part of his grand plan to nuke the city.

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* MoralEventHorizon: The Antagonist was already across this line from the very start of the gamee game when he kills somebody that he drugged and kidnapped; it continues to escalate as he only gets worse from there by slaughtering his way through hundreds of civilians, cops and soldiers as part of his grand plan to nuke the city.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Looking past the obvious controversy, the fact that the developers went out of their way to make the Antagonist as unlikable ([[FlatCharacter arguably flat or even dull]]) as possible ([[BlackComedy with no hint of irony or humor involved]]) might turn off some. It can be argued that the main point is the gameplay, but for many players, there needs to be at least ''some'' motivation for violent gameplay - even ''Franchise/{{Doom}}'' has you saving the planet. Being given a palette of horrible deeds and no reasoning beyond "Be a killer" leaves an ''incredibly'' foul taste in a lot of people's mouths.


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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: Looking past the obvious controversy, the fact that the developers went out of their way to make the Antagonist as unlikable ([[FlatCharacter arguably flat or even dull]]) as possible ([[BlackComedy with no hint of irony or humor involved]]) might turn off some. It can be argued that the main point is the gameplay, but for many players, there needs to be at least ''some'' motivation for violent gameplay - even ''Franchise/{{Doom}}'' has you saving the planet. Being given a palette of horrible deeds and no reasoning beyond "Be a killer" leaves an ''incredibly'' foul taste in a lot of people's mouths.
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* MyNameIsNotShazam: The main character is called "The Antagonist". His name isn’t actually "Not Important". This very site made that mistake several times.

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* MyNameIsNotShazam: The main character is called "The Antagonist". His name isn’t isn't actually "Not Important". This very site made that mistake several times.
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* MyNameIsNotShazam: The main character is called "The Antagonist". His name isn’t "Not Important". This very site made that mistake several times.

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* MyNameIsNotShazam: The main character is called "The Antagonist". His name isn’t actually "Not Important". This very site made that mistake several times.
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* MyNameIsNotShazam: The main character is called "The Antagonist". His name isn’t "Not Important". This very site made that mistake several times.

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'''The Antagonist''': '''''THAT'S'' what I ''WAAANNT'', and you ''will'' tell me''', or I'll make you diiieee...[[PunctuatedForEmphasis Very. Fucking. Slowly...]]\\
'''Worker''': '''''[[ChewingTheScenery ALRIGHT, PLEASE STOP!! I WILL DO THIS! I WILL!! DO THIS!!]]'''''

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'''The Antagonist''': '''''THAT'S'' what I ''WAAANNT'', and '''''THAT'S''''' '''what I''' '''''WAAANNT''''', '''and you ''will'' tell me''', or me!''' Or I'll make you diiieee...''diiieee''...[[PunctuatedForEmphasis Very. Fucking. Slowly...VERY. FUCKing. Sloooowly...]]\\
'''Worker''': '''''[[ChewingTheScenery ALRIGHT, PLEASE STOP!! I WILL DO THIS! I WILL!! DO THIS!!]]'''''THIS!!]]'''''\\
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'''Worker''': NO...I WUN'T DO DAT! ''(sounds mildly concerned)'' I can't be ''responsible'' for this! ...Kill me if y-\\
'''The Antagonist''': ''[kills worker]'' Useless piece of shit. ''[flatly]'' What is this fucking code.

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