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* NightmareFuel:
** The fatalities in the Sega CD version can be shockingly disturbing and detailed despite the game's age. Mitigated somewhat by the few fatalities that are so over the top, they cross the line twice into black comedy.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtsM4N3tPp8 This commercial]] for the Genesis version has two older fighting games running and screaming in fear from the titular game's box, which growls at them and chases them down as the announcer says, "''Eternal Champions'' is gonna eat your old fighting games for lunch!". Eventually, the box corners one of the older fighting games in the kitchen and devours it, with it screaming the entire time. Then the box lands on '''WELCO METOT HENEX TLEVEL''', Sega's slogan at the time, which is made out of silverware, and belches "SEGA!". The music and the atmosphere certainly don't do the commercial any favors.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Ramses III’s bio makes mention of an Alexander the Great and '''''his''''' Roman Legions; apparently conflating Alexander (who is Macedonian) with Ptolemy (his general who took over the Egyptian territories after Alexander’s death and founded the Ptolemaic dynasty) and Octavian (Julius Caesar’s successor who ended the Ptolemaic dynasty and brought Egypt under Roman dominion.).
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Hindsight cleanup. Sorry.
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Cutting per Complaining thread.


* HarsherInHindsight: Considering just how many fighting games Sega would go on to publish on the Saturn (''VideoGame/VirtuaFighter'', ''VideoGame/FightingVipers'', ''VideoGame/LastBronx'', etc.), their decision not to create a sequel to ''Eternal Champions'' due to ''Virtua Fighter'' seems pretty weak.

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* NightmareFuel: The fatalities in the Sega CD version can be shockingly disturbing and detailed despite the game's age. Mitigated somewhat by the few fatalities that are so over the top, they cross the line twice into black comedy.

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The fatalities in the Sega CD version can be shockingly disturbing and detailed despite the game's age. Mitigated somewhat by the few fatalities that are so over the top, they cross the line twice into black comedy.comedy.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtsM4N3tPp8 This commercial]] for the Genesis version has two older fighting games running and screaming in fear from the titular game's box, which growls at them and chases them down as the announcer says, "''Eternal Champions'' is gonna eat your old fighting games for lunch!". Eventually, the box corners one of the older fighting games in the kitchen and devours it, with it screaming the entire time. Then the box lands on '''WELCO METOT HENEX TLEVEL''', Sega's slogan at the time, which is made out of silverware, and belches "SEGA!". The music and the atmosphere certainly don't do the commercial any favors.
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* ScrappyMechanic: The Inner Strength gauge is supposed to be your resource for special moves, and allows for [[IShallTauntYou taunting the opponent]] to lower their own gauge in exchange for some of the user's own. The problem is that TheComputerIsACheatingBastard, can taunt you as much as it wants to cripple your gauge, and then use whatever special moves it wants with impunity despite having their own as empty the whole time. This results in situations like the FinalBoss making itself invulnerable whenever it pleases if it just feels like being a real bastard, and turns the single-player into a hellish slog.
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This character doesn't have an entry on MagnificentBastard.Video Games, so I think it wasn't approved by the cleanup thread.


* MagnificentBastard: Where to begin with the Dark Champion? He withheld contestants so that the Eternal Champion's contest could never be completed, upon entering said contest distorted it into a battle of ego and hatred to further weaken his brother, and will abduct any contestant who is unfortunate enough to get [[CurbStompBattle curb stomped]] by their opponent and finish them off himself by using their worst fear against them. Yikes!
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I'm only vaguely familiar with this game, so this is mostly based on info I've gleamed from other examples. By the way, is the Vocaloid thing true?


* CrossTheLineTwice: Some of the death animations are so excessively over the top and violent that this is the only way they're not horrific. Dropping into a hidden trap door and getting eviscerated by saws, axes, and barbed wire? Abominable. Having it happen thrice in a row, to the point that only a skull completely void of flesh is left to smash on the ground in the end? Ridiculous.

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* CrossTheLineTwice: CrossesTheLineTwice: Some of the death animations are so excessively over the top and violent that this is the only way they're not horrific. Dropping into a hidden trap door and getting eviscerated by saws, axes, and barbed wire? Abominable. Having it happen thrice in a row, to the point that only a skull completely void of flesh is left to smash on the ground in the end? Ridiculous.



* FandomRivalry:Though on a minor scale, with ''VideoGame/VirtuaFighter'' and to a even lesser extent, ''{{Music/Vocaloid}}''.

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* FandomRivalry:Though FandomRivalry: Though on a minor scale, with ''VideoGame/VirtuaFighter'' and due to Sega [[ScrewedByTheNetwork screwing over this series]] in order to avoid cannibalizing into their main fighting game franchise, cancelling a even lesser extent, ''{{Music/Vocaloid}}''.third installment as well as various planned adaptations.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: If the Senator ran in real life, he would win the popular vote by a ''landslide''. From the first game, Larcen and Shadow were both popular enough to get their own (terrible) spin-off games.

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* EnsembleDarkHorse: If the Senator ran in real life, he would win the popular vote by a ''landslide''. From the first game, Larcen and Shadow were both popular enough to get their own (terrible) (unfortunately terrible) spin-off games.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: ''Challenge from the Dark Side's'' soundtrack compared to the original, you just can't go wrong with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcYy7-697ls The Senator's theme]]. Hail to the Chief, indeed!

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''Challenge from the Dark Side's'' soundtrack compared to the original, you just can't go wrong with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcYy7-697ls The Senator's theme]]. Hail to the Chief, indeed!



* CriticalResearchFailure: Trident fought with Capoeira ''centuries'' before it was developed. RuleOfCool might circumvent this, considering that most of the characters fight with styles they couldn't possibly have learned in their environment.
** And there's that whole BurnTheWitch thing, which never happened during the Salem Witch Trials.
*** In a game where the goal is to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, any historical inaccuracies can be [[JustifiedTrope justified]] by explaining that it's just different in their version of the timeline.
** The [[AllThereInTheManual manual]] mentions that the Eternal Champion himself trained the characters that didn't know how to fight; furthermore, in Slash's ending, it's mentioned that he uses a technique learned from Xavier. None of this explains why an Atlantean champion (who died to a cheat) would learn a completely new fighting style...
** Ramses III’s bio makes mention of an Alexander the Great and '''''his''''' Roman Legions; apparently conflating Alexander (who is Macedonian) with Ptolemy (his general who took over the Egyptian territories after Alexander’s death and founded the Ptolemaic dynasty) and Octavian (Julius Caesar’s successor who ended the Ptolemaic dynasty and brought Egypt under Roman dominion.).

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* CriticalResearchFailure: Trident fought with Capoeira ''centuries'' before it was developed. RuleOfCool might circumvent this, considering that most of the characters fight with styles they couldn't possibly have learned in their environment.
** And there's that whole BurnTheWitch thing, which never happened during the Salem Witch Trials.
*** In a game where the goal is to SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong, any historical inaccuracies can be [[JustifiedTrope justified]] by explaining that it's just different in their version of the timeline.
** The [[AllThereInTheManual manual]] mentions that the Eternal Champion himself trained the characters that didn't know how to fight; furthermore, in Slash's ending, it's mentioned that he uses a technique learned from Xavier. None of this explains why an Atlantean champion (who died to a cheat) would learn a completely new fighting style...
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Ramses III’s bio makes mention of an Alexander the Great and '''''his''''' Roman Legions; apparently conflating Alexander (who is Macedonian) with Ptolemy (his general who took over the Egyptian territories after Alexander’s death and founded the Ptolemaic dynasty) and Octavian (Julius Caesar’s successor who ended the Ptolemaic dynasty and brought Egypt under Roman dominion.).



* ThatOneBoss: The Eternal and Dark Champions. On top of that, losing to either of them yields an instant GameOver.

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The Eternal and Dark Champions. On top of that, losing to either of them yields an instant GameOver.
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** Of all the battle themes, Blade's is probably the best remembered [[EarWorm for a very good reason]].

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** Of all the battle themes, Blade's is probably the best remembered [[EarWorm for a very good reason]].being catchy.
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** Ramses III’s bio makes mention of an Alexander the Great and '''''his''''' Roman Legions; apparently conflating Alexander (who is Macedonian) with Ptolemy (his general who took over the Egyptian territories after Alexander’s death and founded the Ptolemaic dynasty) and Octavian (Julius Caesar’s successor who ended the Ptolemaic dynasty and brought Egypt under Roman dominion.).
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* NightmareFuel: The fatalities in the Sega CD version can be shockingly disturbing and detailed despite the game's age. Mitigated somewhat by the few fatalities that are so over the top, they cross the line twice into black comedy.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: ''Challenge from the Dark Side's'' soundtrack compared to the original, you just can't go wrong with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcYy7-697ls The Senator's theme]]. Hail to the Chief, indeed!
** Of all the battle themes, Blade's is probably the best remembered [[EarWorm for a very good reason]].
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xWAGuayzRY MidKnight's theme from the second game]] also deserves a mention considering that it has been used frequently used as background music for reviews and retrospectives of the series ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFkhVfSnXg4 one example here]]).



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: ''Challenge from the Dark Side's'' soundtrack compared to the original, you just can't go wrong with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcYy7-697ls The Senator's theme]]. Hail to the Chief, indeed!
** Of all the battle themes, Blade's is probably the best remembered [[EarWorm for a very good reason]].
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xWAGuayzRY MidKnight's theme from the second game]] also deserves a mention considering that it has been used frequently used as background music for reviews and retrospectives of the series ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFkhVfSnXg4 one example here]]).
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* CrossTheLineTwice: Some of the death animations are so excessively over the top and violent that this is the only way they're not horrific. Dropping into a hidden trap door and getting eviscerated by saws, axes, and barbed wire? Abominable. Having it happen thrice in a row, to the point that only a skull completely void of flesh is left to smash on the ground in the end? Ridiculous.
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xWAGuayzRY MidKnight's theme from the second game]] also deserves a mention considering that it has been used frequently used as background music for reviews and retrospectives of the series ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFkhVfSnXg4 one example here]]).
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* HarsherInHindsight: Considering just how many fighting games Sega would go on to publish on the Saturn (''VideoGame/VirtuaFighter'', ''VideoGame/FightingVipers'', ''VideoGame/LastBronx'', etc.), their decision not to create a sequel to ''Eternal Champions'' due to ''Virtua Fighter'' seems pretty weak.



** The Eternal Champion's shark form is the worst offender, despite the fact that the Dark Champion had an attack in most of his forms that made him invulnerable.

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** The Eternal Champion's shark form is the worst offender, despite the fact that the Dark Champion had an attack in most of his forms that made him invulnerable.
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** Of all the battle themes, Blade's is probably the best remembered [[EarWorm for a very good reason]].
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* FandomRivalry:Though on a minor scale, with ''VideoGame/VirtuaFighter'' and to a even lesser extent, ''{{Music/Vocaloid}}''.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: If the Senator ran in real life, he would win the popular vote by a ''landslide''.

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* EnsembleDarkHorse: If the Senator ran in real life, he would win the popular vote by a ''landslide''. From the first game, Larcen and Shadow were both popular enough to get their own (terrible) spin-off games.
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Dropping completely undetailed entry as per the NF/HONF rules


* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The fatalities in Challenge from the Dark Side, and to a lesser extent the original.
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YMMV sinkhole


* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: While YourMileageMayVary on ''Challenge from the Dark Side's'' soundtrack compared to the original, you just can't go wrong with [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcYy7-697ls The Senator's theme]]. Hail to the Chief, indeed!

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: While YourMileageMayVary on ''Challenge from the Dark Side's'' soundtrack compared to the original, you just can't go wrong with [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcYy7-697ls The Senator's theme]]. Hail to the Chief, indeed!
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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The fatalities in Challenge from the Dark Side, and to a lesser extent the original.
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* GameBreaker: Trident in the first game. Plasma bolt + Spinning Trident = half your health gone in an INSTANT.
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** The [[AllThereInTheManual manual]] mentions that the Eternal Champion himself trained the characters that didn't know how to fight; furthermore, in Slash's ending, it's mentioned that he uses a technique learned from one of the other fighters. None of this explains why an Atlantean champion (who died to a cheat) would learn a completely new fighting style...

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** The [[AllThereInTheManual manual]] mentions that the Eternal Champion himself trained the characters that didn't know how to fight; furthermore, in Slash's ending, it's mentioned that he uses a technique learned from one of the other fighters.Xavier. None of this explains why an Atlantean champion (who died to a cheat) would learn a completely new fighting style...

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