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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Yaz is shown looking askance at Ryan while he's chatting to Bella, suggesting either she's jealous or is having an interested but watchful ShipperOnDeck moment.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Hime hammers in the environmental Aesop with all the subtlety of a ''[[WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers Captain Planet]]'' episode. Even by modern ''Who'' standards and the coincidental timing with devastating wildfires in Australia, a lot of viewers felt the moralizing at the end was too much -- especially the grim tone of the Doctor's speech in the final minutes, as if she were talking to the audience, not Team TARDIS. Then it got even worse when just three episodes later we got ''another'' GreenAesop story which handled its messaging less ostentatiously and was better received for it.
* AssPull: Kane just...survives. It's not explained how she gets out of the Dreg Hive considering her only exit was blocked and the entire area was swarming with Dregs that she had made sure to draw attention to herself.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Hime hammers in the environmental Aesop with all the subtlety of a ''[[WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers Captain Planet]]'' episode. Even by modern ''Who'' standards standards, and the coincidental timing with devastating wildfires in Australia, a lot of viewers felt the moralizing at the end was too much -- especially the grim tone of the Doctor's speech in the final minutes, as if she were talking to the audience, not Team TARDIS. Then it got even worse when just three episodes later we got ''another'' GreenAesop story which handled its messaging less ostentatiously and was better received for it.
* AssPull: Kane just... survives. It's not explained how she gets got out of the Dreg Hive Hive, considering her only exit was blocked and the entire area was swarming with Dregs that she had made sure to draw attention to herself.



* JustHereForGodzilla: Even with everything around her going to hell in a handbasket, Thirteen is still in a bad mood — sniping at her companions, showing perky arrogance (she prefers talking to herself because others just get in the way), revealing a snarky side — was seen as the highlight of the episode, and left people excited to see her snap like a twig in future installments!
* MemeticMutation: Vilma never stops crying out for BENNI! The fandom has taken this to extremes.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: Even with everything around her going to hell in a handbasket, Thirteen the Doctor is still in a bad mood — sniping at her companions, showing perky arrogance (she prefers talking to herself because others just get in the way), revealing a snarky side — was seen as the highlight of the episode, and left people excited to see her snap like a twig in future installments!
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* MemeticMutation: Vilma never stops crying out for BENNI! The fandom has taken this to extremes.'''BENNI!'''



** Bella and Ryan saying goodbye to each other by putting their thumbs in their mouths. Even with context, it looks absolutely ridiculous and makes it practically impossible to take the intended dramatic goodbye seriously.
** One of the side characters, Vilma, finds her partner of forty-six years, Benni, has been kidnapped by the Dregs, so she spends most of the episode tagging along with the Doctor to rescue him, constantly yelling out "BENNI, BENNI, WHERE ARE YOU?!" in a very hammy and artificial way, and always at the worst possible time, making her scenes unintentionally hilarious. The comedy comes to a head when Vilma decides to pull a HeroicSacrifice and she runs at the Dregs, screaming out "WHICH ONE OF YOU HURT MY BENNI??!!!" before they eat her and the scene cuts away to Yaz gawping in shock. Vilma quickly achieved meme status in the fandom.

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** Bella and Ryan saying goodbye to each other by putting their thumbs in their mouths. Even with context, it looks absolutely ridiculous and makes it practically impossible to take the intended dramatic goodbye seriously.
seriously. Even Ryan looks bewildered as he returns the gesture.
** One of the side characters, Vilma, finds her partner of forty-six years, Benni, has been kidnapped by the Dregs, so she spends most of the episode tagging along with the Doctor to rescue him, constantly yelling out "BENNI, out, "BENNI! BENNI, WHERE ARE YOU?!" YOU?!", in a very hammy and artificial way, and always at the worst possible time, making her scenes unintentionally hilarious. The comedy comes to a head when Vilma decides to pull a HeroicSacrifice and she runs at the Dregs, screaming out out, "WHICH ONE OF YOU HURT MY BENNI??!!!" BENNI??!!!", before they eat her and the scene cuts away to Yaz gawping in shock. Vilma quickly achieved meme status in the fandom.



* StrangledByTheRedString: Bella kisses Ryan at the end with little buildup between them beyond some awkward friendly chemistry at the beginning and some even more awkward flirting in the van. The fact that it seems to instill some jealousy in Yaz which ends up going nowhere really doesn't help.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The episode has loads of side characters who all get shortchanged[[labelnote:*]]A total of '''eight''' guest characters with names, which combined with the four leads makes a total of twelve named characters in this one episode.[[/labelnote]], with very little background as to why they're in the resort. Several fans noted Ed Hime's "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS37E9ItTakesYouAway It Takes You Away]]" from the previous season had the same problem.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: So Ryan spends a considerable amount of the episode with a woman who becomes a terrorist because her mum abandoned her at a young age. The same Ryan who had a significant amount of the runtime of ''Resolution'' devoted to exploring his feelings about his absent dad and the turmoil he went through is now witnessing a dark mirror of himself who has gone far beyond what he ever did when he met his dad again. The episode never brings it up and it only really seems to come through in Tosin Cole's performance.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Bella kisses Ryan at the end with little buildup build-up between them beyond some awkward friendly chemistry at the beginning and some even more awkward flirting in the van. The fact that it seems to instill some jealousy in Yaz which ends up going nowhere really doesn't help.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The episode has loads of side characters who all get shortchanged[[labelnote:*]]A short-changed[[labelnote:*]]A total of '''eight''' guest characters with names, which which, combined with the four leads leads, makes a total of twelve named characters in this one episode.[[/labelnote]], with very little background as to why they're in the resort. Several fans noted Ed Hime's "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS37E9ItTakesYouAway It Takes You Away]]" from the previous season had the same problem.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: So Ryan spends a considerable amount of the episode with a woman who becomes a terrorist because her mum abandoned her at a young age. The same Ryan who had a significant amount of the runtime of ''Resolution'' devoted to exploring his feelings about his absent dad dad, and the turmoil he went through through, is now witnessing a dark mirror of himself who has gone far beyond what he ever did when he met his dad again. The episode never brings it up and it only really seems to come through in Tosin Cole's physical performance.



** It is established when the Fam arrive at Tranquility that there's a teleport system that, anywhere and at any time, can take them back to exactly where they came from. Where they came from is ''the TARDIS'', and since the episode itself doesn't establish what the limits of anywhere and anytime are it makes the Doctor seem to just forget that she can beam back to her ''Indestructable Time Machine'' as soon as the van breaks down outside the dome and then use that to provide technical assistance and safe transport. The Doctor's moralising throughout the episode, and ''especially'' the end, falls remarkably flat considering how much death could have been avoided by just remembering she could teleport.
* {{Wangst}}: Late in the episode, Sylas suddenly throws a tantrum over his father's not listening to his technical advice, and storms out of the group's hideaway despite the imminent threat of the Dregs. The only thing that had hinted at any tension between the two -- and about the only thing that Sylas had done, full-stop -- prior to this was a very brief argument near the start of the story over what tool to use for a minor job, meaning that Sylas' reaction comes out of absolutely nowhere, and seems to have been done purely to put him in peril for the finale.

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** It is established when the Fam arrive at Tranquility that there's a teleport system that, anywhere and at any time, can take them back to exactly where they came from. Where they came from is ''the TARDIS'', and since the episode itself doesn't establish what the limits of anywhere and anytime are it makes the Doctor seem to just forget that she can beam back to her ''Indestructable Time Machine'' as soon as the van breaks down outside the dome and then use that to provide technical assistance and safe transport. The Doctor's moralising throughout the episode, and ''especially'' the end, falls remarkably flat considering how much death could have been avoided by just remembering she could teleport.
* {{Wangst}}: Late in the episode, Sylas suddenly throws a tantrum over his father's father not listening to his technical advice, and storms out of the group's hideaway hideaway, despite the imminent threat of the Dregs. The only thing that had hinted at any tension between the two -- and about the only thing that Sylas had done, full-stop -- prior to this was a very brief argument near the start of the story over what tool to use for a minor job, meaning that Sylas' reaction comes out of absolutely nowhere, and seems to have been done purely to put him in peril for the finale.final act.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: So Ryan spends a considerable amount of the episode with a woman who becomes a terrorist because her mum abandoned her at a young age. The same Ryan who had a significant amount of the runtime of ''Resolution'' devoted to exploring his feelings about his absent dad and the turmoil he went through is now witnessing a dark mirror of himself who has gone far beyond what he ever did when he met his dad again. The episode never brings it up and it only really seems to come through in Town Cole's performance.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: So Ryan spends a considerable amount of the episode with a woman who becomes a terrorist because her mum abandoned her at a young age. The same Ryan who had a significant amount of the runtime of ''Resolution'' devoted to exploring his feelings about his absent dad and the turmoil he went through is now witnessing a dark mirror of himself who has gone far beyond what he ever did when he met his dad again. The episode never brings it up and it only really seems to come through in Town Tosin Cole's performance.
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* DontShootTheMessage: Even some who agreed with the environmental message found the episode's delivery of it very off-putting, or ham-fisted at best.

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* DontShootTheMessage: Even some who agreed with the environmental message found the episode's delivery of it very off-putting, or ham-fisted at best. This episode is commonly reviled for being so preachy that it's outright {{Narm}}.
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** It is established when the Fam arrive at Tranquility that there's a teleport system that, anywhere and at any time, can take them back to exactly where they came from. Where they came from is ''the TARDIS'', and since the episode itself doesn't establish what the limits of anywhere and anytime are it makes the Doctor seem to just forget that she can beam back to her ''Indestructable Time Machine'' as soon as the van breaks down outside the done and then use that to provide technical assistance and safe transport. The Doctor's moralising throughout the episode, and ''especially'' the end, falls remarkably flat considering how much death could have been avoided by just remembering she could teleport.

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** It is established when the Fam arrive at Tranquility that there's a teleport system that, anywhere and at any time, can take them back to exactly where they came from. Where they came from is ''the TARDIS'', and since the episode itself doesn't establish what the limits of anywhere and anytime are it makes the Doctor seem to just forget that she can beam back to her ''Indestructable Time Machine'' as soon as the van breaks down outside the done dome and then use that to provide technical assistance and safe transport. The Doctor's moralising throughout the episode, and ''especially'' the end, falls remarkably flat considering how much death could have been avoided by just remembering she could teleport.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Bella kisses Ryan at the end with little buildup between them beyond some awkward friendly chemistry at the beginning.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Bella kisses Ryan at the end with little buildup between them beyond some awkward friendly chemistry at the beginning.beginning and some even more awkward flirting in the van. The fact that it seems to instill some jealousy in Yaz which ends up going nowhere really doesn't help.


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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: So Ryan spends a considerable amount of the episode with a woman who becomes a terrorist because her mum abandoned her at a young age. The same Ryan who had a significant amount of the runtime of ''Resolution'' devoted to exploring his feelings about his absent dad and the turmoil he went through is now witnessing a dark mirror of himself who has gone far beyond what he ever did when he met his dad again. The episode never brings it up and it only really seems to come through in Town Cole's performance.
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** It is established when the Fam arrive at Tranquility that there's a teleport system that, anywhere and at any time, can take them back to exactly where they came from. Where they came from is ''the TARDIS'', and since the episode itself doesn't establish what the limits of anywhere and anytime are it makes the Doctor seem to just forget that she can beam back to her ''Indestructable Time Machine'' as soon as the van breaks down outside the done and then use that to provide technical assistance and safe transport. The Doctor's moralising throughout the episode, and ''especially'' the end, falls remarkably flat considering how much death could have been avoided by just remembering she could teleport.
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* {{Wangst}}: Late in the episode, Sylas suddenly throws a tantrum over his father's not listening to his technical advice, and storms out of the group's hideaway despite the imminent threat of the Dregs. The only thing that had hinted at any tension between the two -- and about the only thing that Sylas had done, full-stop -- prior to this was a very brief argument near the start of the story over what tool to use for a minor job, meaning that Sylas' reaction comes out of absolutely nowhere, and seems to have been done purely to put him in peril for the finale.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Bella kisses Ryan at the end with little buildup between them beyond some awkward friendly chemistry at the beginning.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: This episode starts off interesting and suspenseful, and the Dregs are a menacing enemy born from a toxic environment. You wonder why the world became so dystopian. However, the episode is essentially ruined when the planet Team TARDIS is on is unflatteringly revealed to be a polluted Earth, presenting a lazy and cliche GreenAesop that humans need to take care of the world and the insulting premise that we aren't doing a good enough job. It seems like a lazy cop-out. If it had been another world colonized by humans, that would have sufficed. Also, Vilma grates on the nerves after yelling for Benni over and over.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Hime hammers in the environmental Aesop with all the subtlety of a ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanet'' episode. Even by modern ''Who'' standards and the coincidental timing with devastating wildfires in Australia, a lot of viewers felt the moralizing at the end was too much -- especially the grim tone of the Doctor's speech in the final minutes, as if she were talking to the audience, not Team TARDIS. Then it got even worse when just three episodes later we got ''another'' GreenAesop story which handled its messaging less ostentatiously and was better received for it.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Hime hammers in the environmental Aesop with all the subtlety of a ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanet'' ''[[WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers Captain Planet]]'' episode. Even by modern ''Who'' standards and the coincidental timing with devastating wildfires in Australia, a lot of viewers felt the moralizing at the end was too much -- especially the grim tone of the Doctor's speech in the final minutes, as if she were talking to the audience, not Team TARDIS. Then it got even worse when just three episodes later we got ''another'' GreenAesop story which handled its messaging less ostentatiously and was better received for it.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: This episode starts off interesting and suspenseful, and the Dregs are a menacing enemy, but the episode is essentially ruined when the planet Team TARDIS is on is unflatteringly revealed to be a polluted Earth, presenting a lazy and cliche GreenAesop that humans need to take care of the world and the insulting premise that we aren't doing a good enough job. If it had been another world, that would have sufficed. Also, Vilma grates on the nerves after yelling for Benni over and over.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: This episode starts off interesting and suspenseful, and the Dregs are a menacing enemy, but enemy born from a toxic environment. You wonder why the world became so dystopian. However, the episode is essentially ruined when the planet Team TARDIS is on is unflatteringly revealed to be a polluted Earth, presenting a lazy and cliche GreenAesop that humans need to take care of the world and the insulting premise that we aren't doing a good enough job. It seems like a lazy cop-out. If it had been another world, world colonized by humans, that would have sufficed. Also, Vilma grates on the nerves after yelling for Benni over and over.

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