History YMMV / Deepwoken

** Brutus, for his ability to deliver a brutal beatdown on anyone who dares come into his cell, even those capable of slaying the creations of gods. This has since lead to a joke in the community that the only reason he remains in his cell in Fort Merit, which has no bars on it due to developer oversight, is that he does so by choice.

-> ''"I am a master with my hands."''

* AccidentalInnuendo: The Talent One Handed Training and the now removed Talent Capra's Throat. They certainly sound like something... else. Expect them to come up often in "Describe your relationships/sex life with a Deepwoken Talent name."

** Likely due to the enemy Ignition Union being viewed more favorably, the Summer Company often suffer from this. They're painted as far more immoral in their conflict with the Ignition Union, despite the fact the Union were the instigators of the conflict and the Summer Company are just defending themselves. Furthermore, they're heavily criticized for sabotaging their Mechalodaunts in a heavily populated area, even though the Union themselves admit the Company just turned the creatures on by accident, and it was the Union who stored such deadly creatures in their own town. They're also seen as colonisers claiming the land of the Navaen Nomads, despite the Nomads having never settled there and were only passing through the land at the time.

** Permafrost Prison was easily one of the most busted Mantras in the game on release, enough that the developers scrambled to nerf it ''six'' times on the same day. It hit hard, came out in quick succession to stun-lock multiple players at once, and the base-size spikes were large enough to be hard to avoid on top of no endlag. A deadly combination that can be done with minimal effort on the attacker's end so long as they're decent at dodging. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjmFihuK3U This video]] perfectly demonstrates just how broken it was. Even after multiple nerfs, it's still considered to be one of the most powerful Mantras, with the developers having to tread carefully in regards of balancing this Mantra.

** Stone Knights. They are much more durable versions of Rock Golems, and to make matter worse, they also have damage resistance against slash weapons, which is the majority of the weapons in game so far. While Heavy and Light weapon users do have their fists and Greathammers to deal with them, Medium weapon users only have ''two'' weapons to deal with it: the Mace (which is a weapon that will be discarded in the late-game due to lacking damage) and the Sacred Hammer (which is a souped-up version of the Mace, but rarer). The update that added the Maestro Evengarde Rest boss fight also added the Purple Cloud weapon, which does do blunt damage and has higher DPS than the Mace and Sacred Hammer... but only on its [=M1s=] and being locked at 85 MED, meaning that players who aren't invested well into the Medium Weapon stat will have to rely either on their mantras or the other weapons to defeat them. Even worse is that there's a [[GoddamnedBoss boss version]] called the Blizzard Knights, which ''[[WolfpackBoss spawn in groups of six]]'', and worse, it's possible to aggro more than two at a time, though this is made up by the fact that they also attack everyone except the Golem Constructs on sight. Expect to hunt them down at least once if you want those Hero Blades.

** Duke Erisia offers slightly worse Resonance progression in exchange for being available much faster than Primadon, but many agree his first phase is the most annoying part of the battle, as you cannot dispel it until you attack him multiple times. Much like Primadon, his first phase is a parry check, but sometimes he can some Galebreathe mantras, which can potentially throw off some players. Thankfully, his second phase is pretty much a standard fight against an humanoid NPC, but watch out when he summons his Mindless Servants, as they can potentially cause trouble if you don't have anything that can ignite them or don't have the Lethal Precision talent.

*** Deep Owls: [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Wan Shi Tong]], due to also being an AnimalisticAbomination taking a form of an giant dark owl. Except in reality, very few people initially called them this. In reality, someone added it to the wiki, making new players assume that people did indeed call them that, effectively gaslighting an entire community.

** Deep Owls. They are somewhat hard to find, being encountered only at night, but they also have very annoying moves as well. The former is somewhat mitigated by a set Deep Owl spawn being added to the Lordsgrove sometime in February.

* LowTierLetdown: While certain attunements and builds can be viable with enough skill, the same cannot be said about certain talents and Mantras, and players are expected to burn them on sight:

** Fire Gun, surprisingly enough, become this after it was reworked. Prior to the rework, Fire Gun was regarded as mediocre, and was only useful for setting bodies on fire, which any other Flamecharm mantra could do. After the rework which made it fire automatically as long as the player is holding on the assigned key for it and made it compatible with other Mantra Modifiers alongside some talents, it's agreed to be one ''the'' best Flamecharm mantras out there for different reasons: Adding modifiers to increase the projectile speed such as Rush Shards and a Round Spark to increase the projectiles sent turns it into a ''automatic Fire Shotgun'', pretty much putting pressure on anyone close-to-mid range. Talents make it even more insane: Hungry Flames allow you to fire it endlessly without Ether at the expense of hunger which can be mitigated with a lot of food and Carnivore, Azure Flames for more damage, and Lava Serpent for area denial. It even breaks various structures such as wooden planks, meaning that if your opponent thinks they're safe, ''they're not''. It also benefited very greatly from the buff that improved Mantra PVE damage, as with enough Flamecharm, one can easily take down the '''Bone Keeper''' within a few seconds. And in spite of all this, it's not even a 3-star Mantra: It's a ''0-star Mantra'', meaning you can get it as soon as you hit Power 2, giving you a powerful Mantra right at the start! It was later nerfed so that it wouldn't deal too much damage at a distance, though the insane synergy with The Floor is Lava remains. The only thing it can't do well is insta-guard breaking enemies such as the Nautilodaunt. It was finally gutted when ranged mantras received ranged scaling that reduced their damage after a certain distance, though later it also received a Blast Spark variant which after landing enough hits from Fire Gun, it causes them to explode, dealing true damage in the process (and its initial addition was even more bonkers: combining it with the Round Spark variant allowed it to override the damage debuff the Blast Spark had alongside being able to autogrip- this was patched out after a couple of weeks).

** Stone Knights. They are much more durable versions of Rock Golems, and to make matter worse, they also have damage resistance against slash weapons, which is the majority of the weapons in game so far. While Heavy and Light weapon users do have their fists and Greathammers to deal with them, Medium weapon users only have ''two'' weapons to deal with it: the Mace (which is a weapon that will be discarded in the late-game due to lacking damage) and the Sacred Hammer (which is a souped-up version of the Mace, but rarer). Even worse is that there's a [[GoddamnedBoss boss version]] called the Blizzard Knights, which ''[[WolfpackBoss spawn in groups of six]]'', and worse, it's possible to aggro more than two at a time, though this is made up by the fact that they also attack everyone except the Golem Constructs on sight. Expect to hunt them down at least once if you want those Hero Blades.

** King Threshers' main difficulty comes from the fact that their sheer size can throw off some players, not to mention they also have unique moves, meaning that players who got used to the moveset of ordinary Threshers are in for a surprise.

** King Threshers' body slam attack can surprisingly punch through parry attempts, and the hitbox can even catch players who somehow managed to ''perfectly'' roll through it, resulting in them being ragdolled and knocked back. For extra pain, it can often follow up with it breathing flames right at you, which is completely unblockable and can only be dodged, which by that point, means you probably wasted a roll trying to dodge the body slam. Ironically, the body slam can be avoided by simply ''blocking'' it.

* AwesomeBosses/VideoGames: Maestro Evengarde Rest. No gimmicks, no puzzles, no bullshit, just straight hands. A training match in preparation for taking down one of the most prominent villainous forces in the game has you duel the mysterious Maestro of the Vigils himself to prove yourself and obtain a powerful weapon. A love letter to the [[Videogame/SekiroShadowsDieTwice game that inspired Deepwoken]], with many of his attacks taking inspiration from there, and a resistance to most [=NPC=] cheese tactics in the game, his is overall considered the only enemy truly worthy of the moniker Boss.

** "[X] got it's theme before Chaser" [[labelnote:Explanation]]It took about 14 months for Chaser to get his theme, and while it was incredibly good, the fact that a bunch of content that came out way before him got their theme nearly instantly lead to a ton of memes regarding how Chaser was left on hold for so long. What made it even funnier is that it's rather in character for Chaser and his MemeticLoser status too.[/labelnote]]

** K1 COOKED! [[labelnote:Explanation]]A series of gifs ironically praising the work of [=K1LLUAA=] due to his work on Ironsing, which needs no explanation. Following this, the moves Iron Hug and Rocket Lance were released, the former of which looked very much like a move from one his previous projects and the latter being a buggy mess that could fling those on the receiving end so hard the game would '''ban''' them, thinking they were exploiting. This lead to the gif template being used whenever a new Mantra resembled something from a game he had worked on or was extremely buggy. Its usage ceased with the revelation that most of those Mantras were actually being made by yayafino to purposefully entice their creation, and the meme evolved into "FINO COOKED!"[[/labelnote]]
*** K1 cooked, fr this time [[labelnote:Explanation]]With the revelation that K1 was actually innocent in regards to what had been perceived as "slop content," his reputation steadily improved. The creation of the Maestro Evengarde Rest boss fight, considered one of the best in the game, fully redeemed him in the eyes of the playerbase, and thus the "K1 COOKED" meme took on a more positive meaning.[[/labelnote]]

** K1 COOKED! [[labelnote:Explanation]]A series of gifs ironically praising the work of [=K1LLUAA=] due to his work on Ironsing, which needs no explanation. Following this, the moves Iron Hug and Rocket Lance were released, the former of which looked very much like a move from one his previous projects and the latter being a buggy mess that could fling those on the receiving end so hard the game would '''ban''' them, thinking they were exploiting. This lead to the gif template being used whenever a new Mantra resembled something from a game he had worked on or was extremely buggy. Its usage ceased with the revelation that most of those Mantras were actually being made by yayafino to purposefully entice their creation, and the meme evolved into "FINO COOKED!"
*** K1 cooked, fr this time [[labelnote:Explanation]]With the revelation that K1 was actually innocent in regards to what had been perceived as "slop content," his reputation steadily improved. The creation of the Maestro Evengarde Rest boss fight, considered one of the best in the game, fully redeemed him in the eyes of the playerbase, and thus the "K1 COOKED" meme took on a more positive meaning.

** The bullet that killed Deepwoken. [[labelnote:Explanation]]In typical Roblox fashion, an update that nobody was told about proceeded to absolutely destroy every facet of the game. What made this different was WHAT was broken. The hitbox of a SINGLE bullet in a shop was effectively enlarged, meaning anyone who walked into its really large invisible body would seemingly phase in and out of reality and extremely fast rate, causing the game to be temporarily shutdown. In the same vein as the Sharko Rumbling incident, a memorial was added, with yellow tape covering the bullets present in the game.[[/labelnote]]

** The Hive are painted as a weird blend of EcocidalAntagonist and EcoTerrorist, creating many a PollutedWasteland to fuel their Greathives. While they are often criticized for this, many ignore the fact that their victimized regions were completely uninhabited, with the fauna generally being rather monstrous, as well as the fact that the islands were going to be swallowed by the Depths anyway. If the Hive didn't drain the life from Aratel, it would have been destroyed by the Tides anyway.

** Fire Gun, surprisingly enough, become this after it was reworked. Prior to the rework, Fire Gun was regarded as mediocre, and was only useful for setting bodies on fire, which any other Flamecharm mantra could do. After the rework which made it fire automatically as long as the player is holding on the assigned key for it and made it compatible with other Mantra Modifiers alongside some talents, it's agreed to be one ''the'' best Flamecharm mantras out there for different reasons: Adding modifiers to increase the projectile speed such as Rush Shards and a Round Spark to increase the projectiles sent turns it into a ''automatic Fire Shotgun'', pretty much putting pressure on anyone close-to-mid range. Talents make it even more insane: Hungry Flames allow you to fire it endlessly without Ether at the expense of hunger which can be mitigated with a lot of food and Carnivore, Azure Flames for more damage, and Lava Serpent for area denial. It even breaks various structures such as wooden planks, meaning that if your opponent thinks they're safe, ''they're not''. It also benefited very greatly from the buff that improved Mantra PVE damage, as with enough Flamecharm, one can easily take down the '''Bone Keeper''' within a few seconds. And in spite of all this, it's not even a 3-star Mantra: It's a ''0-star Mantra'', meaning you can get it as soon as you hit Power 2, giving you a powerful Mantra right at the start! It was later nerfed so that it wouldn't deal too much damage at a distance, though the insane synergy with The Floor is Lava remains. The only thing it can't do well is insta-guard breaking enemies such as the Nautilodaunt. It was finally gutted when ranged mantras received ranged scaling that reduced their damage after a certain distance.

* Self-imposed challenge: The Enforcer is meant to deter Deepbound players from getting out of the Depths early on, since it's guaranteed to appear regardless of their Power. This has not stopped some players from trying anyway, which probably is helped since the Enforcer's moveset can be studied well enough for a player to analyze their moveset, allowing Power 1 players to defeat it with enough patience. Bonus points if they defeat it while also having Deep Champion, which enables them to spawn Corrupted.

** Permafrost Prison was easily one of the most busted Mantras in the game on release, enough that the developers scrambled to nerf it ''six'' times on the same day. It hit hard, came out in quick succession to stun-lock multiple players at once, and the base-size spikes were large enough to be hard to avoid on top of no endlag. A deadly combination that can be done with minimal effort on the attacker's end so long as they're decent at dodging. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjmFihuK3U This video]] perfectly demonstrates just how broken it was.

** Of all the Hallowtide weapons, the Hallowscleave is considered by many to be the worst of them all. This is because in spite of its appearance, its stats are completely [[MasterOfNone middle of the road]], boasting mediocre damage and swing speed. Other endgame swords boasts much better results, with the Shattered Katana having higher damage and penetration to compensate for a slightly slower swing speed, which when combined with the Cloak of Winds can pretty much deal a good amount of DPS [[GlassCannon at the expense of not providing the defenses of the Master Outfits]], the Kyrsblade is a great all-rounder with emphasis on ScratchDamage, and the Falchion, especially when alloyed, has swing speed on par with light weapons. The only reason why someone would even use it is because of the incredibly funny UsefulNotes/TacoBell sound effect when gripping a player with it.

** What is a seal? Nobody has explained. [[labelnote:Explanation]]From a video featuring Duke Erisia, voiced by his official voice actor, Laurence "Naktigonis" Anthony, reacting to a video of seals being released, confused due to the fact seals have gone extinct in the world of Deepwoken.[[/labelnote]]

*** The Attunement Unbound quest requires you to successfully grip Duke Erisia while having an max Attunement of an element. While his boss fight is not hard ([[GoddamnedBoss albeit very annoying]]), chances are, the player likely only has their attunement maxed out and not their weapon proficiency, making his boss fight harder than expected. The other alternatives are defeating the Ferryman, which while somewhat difficult, can be easy if you know his moveset, and defeating Chaser, which means either defeating him within the Light Hook time limit or risking a wipe.