History YMMV / BrutalDoom

* FandomRivalry: The mod-making community of [=ZDoom=] forums (and Doomworld to a similar extent) is anti-Brutal Doom due to the behaviour of [=SgtMarkIV=], versus the mainstream gaming community and professional reviewers which view Brutal Doom more positively. In fact, those who are looking for mods or joining the [=ZDoom=] and Doomworld community forums are quick to learn to not mention [=SgtMarkIV=] or Brutal Doom, or at least praise it.

* OvershadowedByControversy: The creator of the mod, [=SgtMark=], is rather infamous in the ''Doom'' community due to incidents involving volatile behaviour (ranging from telling a suicidal, depressed user to kill themselves, racist slurs hidden in coding, getting angry about ''VideoGame/Doom2016'' taking inspiration from his mod, planning on using actual pictures of dead people as sprites, and attacking naysayers when he won a [=ModDB=] award), which has resulted in him being banned from several modding communities.

* OvershadowedByControversy: The creator of the mod, [=SgtMark=], is rather infamous in the ''Doom'' community due to incidents involving volatile behaviour (ranging from telling a suicidal, depressed user to kill themselves, racist slurs hidden in coding, getting angry about ''VideoGame/Doom2016'' taking inspiration from his mod, planning on using actual pictures of dead people as sprites, and attacking naysayers when he won a [=ModDB=] award), which has resulted in him being banned from several modding communities. Despite the popularity of ''Brutal Doom'' among the broad audience and casual gamers, hardcore ''Doom'' fans, vanilla purists, and modders are divided at best about it; some weapons mods have even taken to ''intentionally'' breaking compatibility with ''Brutal Doom'' by doing weird things that make it impossible to play (like [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCF5f0hSfKg spawning a swarm of tiny invincible golden Revenants]] in the case of ''VideoGame/DemonSteele''), not specifically out of dislike for ''Brutal Doom'' but simply because a disproportionate amount of bugs that get reported in their mods ends up being caused by a player trying to run it together with ''Brutal Doom''.

** The two German tanks in the courtyard of the castle in "Wolfenstein" have a ton of health, and a single hit from a tank shell is an instant kill unless your health and armor are both in the quadruple digits.

** The ''Brutal Doom'' version of the Icon of Sin has a full body instead of a giant face on a wall. [[spoiler:In ''VideoGame/DoomEternal'', the Icon of Sin returns-and sure enough, he has a full body.]]

** Instead of two Barons of Hell at the end of the first episode, you fight two centaur-like demons who fling green explosive BFG-like blasts at you in a very small area. [[spoiler: The Mancubus Flame Cannon's flamethrower primary fire, however, [[AntiClimaxBoss turns them into a non-issue]]... assuming the player knows how to get the flame cannons in the first place, or has any ammo for it remaining when they get to the centaurs.]]

* ItsPopularNowItSucks: With the incredible amount of coverage and spread this mod has gotten, from simple gameplay videos by various [=YouTube=] users (including the likes of LetsPlay/{{Markiplier}} and the late [[Creator/TheCynicalBrit TotalBiscuit]]), to online publications such as PC Gamer, winning Cacoawards on Doomworld, and featured in an article on ''Playboy'' of all places, there are those that consider it as a blight to the ''Doom'' community that overshadows other great mods out there. This, of course, has attracted complaints about those complaints and opinions that such views are of those who are envious of its success and popularity, like anything else that gets such a high amount of praise.

* OvershadowedByControversy: The creator of the mod, [=SgtMark=], is rather infamous in the ''Doom'' community due to incidents involving volatile behaviour (ranging from telling a suicidal, depressed user to kill themselves, racist slurs hidden in coding, getting angry about ''VideoGame/Doom2016'' taking inspiration from his mod, planning on using actual pictures of dead people as sprites, and attacking naysayers when he won a [=ModDB=] award), which has resulted in him being banned from several modding communities. Despite the popularity of ''Brutal Doom'' among the broad audience and casual gamers, hardcore ''Doom'' fans, vanilla purists, and modders are divided at best about it.

** Early versions of Extermination Day were self-contained, allowing one to use other weapon-replacement mods to go through the new levels. After a point, coding, objects and textures from Extermination Day were instead held within Brutal Doom's main [=.pk3=], meaning to get the best experience you can ''only'' play later versions with Brutal Doom.

** [=MAP10=] (titled "Portal Testing Labs") has you leading a squad of marines in a desperate push towards the portal that will allow you to escape the demon-infested Mars base and return to Earth. There's no exploration or subtlety in this map; just a straight up fight against hordes of demons, ending with a boss battle against two very tough monstrosities.

** The secret levels take you through, respectively, a recreation of ''VideoGame/DukeNukem3D'' [=E1M1=] and, as expected, a time-traveling romp to a ''VideoGame/ReturnToCastleWolfenstein''-style Nazi mansion.

** The gray-clad replacement for the blue-garbed [=Wolf3D=] Schutzstaffel could give the HECU Marines of ''VideoGame/BlackMesa'' a serious run for their money. Despite the spread of their [=MP40s=], they are nevertheless reasonably accurate at the ranges in which enemies are usually fought in ''Doom'' -- and up close, they will quickly reduce a target to a pile of gibs. What's worse is that the Nazis have lightning fast reaction times and often start sending lead downrange the instant they see a target. These guys are true nightmares on Realism Mode--the only saving grace is that their AI is easily exploitable, but even if you set up an ambush around a corner they will likely land a few shots before dying.

* FandomRivalry: The mod-making community of [=ZDoom=] forums (and Doomworld to a similar extent) is anti-Brutal Doom due to the behavior of [=SgtMarkIV=], versus the mainstream gaming community and professional reviewers which view Brutal Doom more positively. In fact, those who are looking for mods or joining the [=ZDoom=] and Doomworld community forums are quick to learn to not mention [=SgtMarkIV=] or Brutal Doom, or at least praising it.

** On top of this, quite a bit of strife ensues due to the fact that most mods that override the same content generally aren't compatible, a fact Brutal Doom fans are [[MemeticMutation memetically infamous]] for not understanding. This, plus Brutal Doom's reputation among the rest of the ''Doom'' community, has led several modders to program their mods to ''actively mock the player'' if they try to run them alongside Brutal Doom.[[note]]Generally, if the mod edits monsters it will not work right with Brutal Doom, Project Brutality, or any other mod that places monsters. Likewise a playerclass or weapon set mod won't work with Brutal Doom either, but will USUALLY run with Ketchup or the monsters-only version. The author of the [=GZDoom=] mods ''VideoGame/HighNoonDrifter'' and ''VideoGame/{{Demonsteele}}'' parodies ''Brutal Doom'''s over-the-top nature should players attempt to load them alongside his to easily identify when the game doesn't run right due to compatibility, as shown [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txcpbEpXIl0 here]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsO07gZPxs here]].[[/note]]

** The ''Brutal Doom'' version of the Icon of Sin has a full body instead of being a giant face on a wall. [[spoiler:In ''VideoGame/DoomEternal'', the Icon of Sin returns-and sure enough, he has a full body.]]
** ''Brutal Doom 64'' ends with Doomguy's actions causing him to become a legendary bogeymen to the demons, known to them as "Doom Slayer". [[spoiler:''Doom Eternal'' confirms Doom Slayer is indeed Doomguy after the events of Doom 64]].
* ItsPopularNowItSucks: With the incredible amount of coverage and spread this mod has gotten, from simple gameplay videos by various [=YouTube=] users (including the likes of LetsPlay/{{Markiplier}} and the late [[Creator/TheCynicalBrit TotalBiscuit]]), to online publications such as PC Gamer, winning Cacoawards on Doomworld, and featured in an article on ''Playboy'' of all places, there are those that consider it as a blight to the ''Doom'' community that overshadows other great mods out there. Which, of course, has attracted complaints about those complaints and opinions that such views are of those who are envious of its success and popularity, like anything else that gets such high amount of praise.

* OvershadowedByControversy: The creator of the mod, [=SgtMark=], is rather infamous in the ''Doom'' community due to incidents involving volatile behavior (ranging from telling a suicidal, depressed user to kill themselves, racist slurs hidden in coding, getting angry about ''VideoGame/Doom2016'' taking inspiration from his mod, planning on using actual pictures of dead people as sprites, and attacking naysayers when he won a [=ModDB=] award), which has resulted in him being banned from several modding communities. Despite the popularity of ''Brutal Doom'' among the broad audience and casual gamers, hardcore ''Doom'' fans, vanilla purists, and modders are divided at best about it.

** The mod encourages players to brutalize suffering enemies, but in v0.19, some enemies like the Former Sergeants and Imps have a tendency to [[ActionBomb explode]] and damage you ''severely'' for no apparent reason if you kick them while they're in agony. While this issue since been fixed, there ''is'' a less severe version of this bug that occurs with Pinky Demons, particularly on Realism Mode. In their case, even their ''corpses'' can cause noticeable hurt if you gib them further.
** Early versions of Extermination Day were self-contained, allowing one to use other weapon-replacement mods to go through the new levels. After a point, coding, objects and textures from Extermination Day were instead held within Brutal Doom's main .[=pk3=], meaning to get the best experience you can ''only'' play later versions with Brutal Doom.

* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: ''Extermination Day'' almost entirely features realistic style levels, with the Earth episode featuring an entire industrial/city/town block, complete with day/night transition between levels.

* FandomRivalry: The entirety of the [=ZDoom=] forums (and Doomworld to a similar extent) is anti-Brutal Doom due to the behavior of [=SgtMark=], versus the mainstream gaming community and professional reviewers which view Brutal Doom more positively.

** On top of this, quite a bit of strife ensues due to the fact that most mods that override the same content generally aren't compatible, a fact Brutal Doom fans are [[MemeticMutation memetically infamous]] for not understanding. This, plus Brutal Doom's reputation among the rest of the ''Doom'' community, has led several modders to program their mods to ''actively mock the player'' if they try to run them alongside Brutal Doom.[[note]]Generally, if the mod edits monsters it will not work right with Brutal Doom, Project Brutality, or any other mod that places monsters. Likewise a playerclass or weapon set mod won't work with Brutal Doom either, but will USUALLY run with Ketchup or the monsters-only version. One modder even make parodies of Brutal Doom's gory and over-the-top nature in his own mods should players attempt to load them along side his to easily identify when the game doesn't run right due compatibility, as shown [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txcpbEpXIl0 here]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsO07gZPxs here]].[[/note]]

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Many people complained about Brutal Doom, specifically the LudicrousGibs, not working with certain mods, mainly ones that use custom monsters. In November 2018, Brutal Bolognese was released, allowing the LudicrousGibs effect of Brutal Doom to be used by many, many other mods.

* ItsPopularNowItSucks: With the incredible amount coverage and spread this mod has gotten, from simple gameplay videos by various [=YouTube=] users (including the likes of LetsPlay/{{Markiplier}} and the late [[Creator/TheCynicalBrit TotalBiscuit]]), to online publications such as PC Gamer, winning Cacoawards on Doomworld, and featured in an article on ''Playboy'' of all places, there are those that consider it as a blight to the ''Doom'' community that overshadows other great mods out there. Which, of course, has attracted complaints about those complaints and opinions that such views are of those who are envious of its success and popularity, like anything else that gets such high amount of praise.

* CatharsisFactor: '''''YES.''''' If you're having a bad day, just load up ''Brutal Doom'', start a game on one of the lower difficulty settings, and enjoy reducing demon hordes to LudicrousGibs with all your crazy weaponry!
* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: You'd be hard-pressed nowadays to find a populated server that does not use this mod - ''Brutal Doom'' is to cooperative servers as [=DWANGO5=] is to deathmatch ones.

** The gray-clad replacement for the blue-garbed [=Wolf3D=] Schutzstaffel could give the HECU Marines of ''VideoGame/BlackMesa'' a serious run for their money. Despite the spread of their [=MP40s=], they are nevertheless reasonably accurate at the ranges in which enemies are usually fought in ''Doom''--and up close, they will quickly reduce a target to a pile of gibs. What's worse is that the Nazis have lightning fast reaction times and often start sending lead downrange the instant they see a target. These guys are true nightmares on Realism Mode--the only saving grace is that their AI is easily exploitable, but even if you set up an ambush around a corner they will likely land a few shots before dying.

* BrokenBase: Whether or not Brutal Doom has ruined ''Doom'' and brought "COD kids" to the fanbase and ruins the balance and feel of vanilla ''Doom'', whether or not it breathes fresh life into an old video game and makes it modernized, or whether or not both sides of the debate overhype what is just a gameplay mod.

* DemonicSpiders: The gray-clad replacement for the blue-garbed [=Wolf3D=] Schutzstaffel could give the HECU Marines of ''VideoGame/BlackMesa'' a serious run for their money. Despite the spread of their [=MP40s=], they are nevertheless reasonably accurate at the ranges in which enemies are usually fought in ''Doom''--and up close, they will quickly reduce a target to a pile of gibs. What's worse is that the Nazis have lightning fast reaction times and often start sending lead downrange the instant they see a target. These guys are true nightmares on Realism Mode--the only saving grace is that their AI is easily exploitable, but even if you set up an ambush around a corner they will likely land a few shots before dying.

* FandomRivalry: The entirety of the [=ZDoom=] forums (and Doomworld to a similar extent) is anti-Brutal Doom due to the behavior of [=SgtMark=], versus the mainstream gaming community and professional reviewers which views Brutal Doom more positively.

** On top of this, quite a bit of strife ensues due to the fact that most mods that override the same content generally aren't compatible, a fact Brutal Doom fans are [[MemeticMutation memetically infamous]] for not understanding. This, plus Brutal Doom's reputation among the rest of the ''Doom'' community, has led several modders to program their mods to ''actively mock the player'' if they try to run them alongside Brutal Doom.[[note]]Generally, if the mod edits monsters it will not work right with Brutal Doom, Project Brutality, or any other mod that places monsters. Likewise a playerclass or weapon set mod won't work with Brutal Doom either, but will USUALLY run with Ketchup or the monsters-only version. One modder even make parodies of Brutal Doom's gory and over-the-top nature in his own mods should players attempt to load them along side his, as shown [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txcpbEpXIl0 here]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFsO07gZPxs here]].[[/note]]

** The ''Brutal Doom'' version of the Icon of Sin has a full body instead of being a giant face on a wall. In ''VideoGame/DoomEternal'', [[spoiler:the Icon of Sin returns-and sure enough, he has a full body.]]
** ''Brutal Doom 64'' ends with Doomguy's actions causing him to become a legendary bogeymen to the demons, known to them as "Doom Slayer". [[spoiler: ''Doom Eternal'' confirms Doom Slayer is indeed Doomguy after the events of Doom 64]].

* OvershadowedByControversy: The creator of the mod, [=SgtMark=], is rather infamous in the ''Doom'' community due to incidents involving volatile behavior (ranging from telling a suicidal, depressed user to kill themselves, racist slurs hidden in coding, getting angry about ''VideoGame/Doom2016'' taking inspiration from his mod, planning on using actual pictures of dead people as sprites, and attacking naysayers when he won a [=ModDB=] award), which has resulted in him being banned from several modding communities. Despite the popularity of ''Brutal Doom'' among the broad audience and casual gamers, actual hardcore ''Doom'' fans and modders are very divided about it.

* FollowTheLeader:
** There are a fair few variations of ''Brutal Doom'' that have been created by other ''Doom'' modders, and that's not even counting the "Mutator" side-mods that have been released.
** ''VideoGame/Doom2016'' also seems to have taken a lot of cues from this mod, especially its execution mechanics. To the point that Doom 2016 weapons have been remade for Brutal Doom (coded by Sgt Mark IV while the sprite remakes are from a resource pack from [=ZDoom=] forums with a remodeled drone from ''VideoGame/{{Strife}}'' as the weapon upgrade drones).

* OvershadowedByControversy: The creator of the mod, [=SgtMark=], is rather infamous in the ''Doom'' community due to incidents involving volatile behavior (ranging from telling a suicidal, depressed user to kill themselves, racist slurs hidden in coding, getting angry about ''VideoGame/Doom2016'' taking inspiration from his mod, planning on using actual pictures of dead people as sprites, and attacking naysayers when he won a [=ModDB=] award), which has resulted in him being banned from several modding communities.

* BestLevelEver:

** ''Brutal Doom 64'' ends with Doomguy's actions causing him to become a legendary boogeymen to the demons, known to them as "Doom Slayer". [[spoiler: ''Doom Eternal'' confirms Doom Slayer is indeed Doomguy after the events of Doom 64]].

* BrokenBase:
** Whether or not Brutal Doom has ruined ''Doom'' and brought "COD kids" to the fanbase and ruins the balance and feel of vanilla ''Doom'', whether or not it breathes fresh life into an old video game and makes it modernized, or whether or not both sides of the debate overhype what is just a gameplay mod.

* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: You'd be hard-pressed nowadays to find a populated server that does not use this mod.

* FandomRivalry: The entirety of the [=ZDoom=] forums (and Doomworld to a similar extent) is anti-Brutal Doom due to the reasons mentioned at Broken Base above, versus the mainstream gaming community and professional reviewers which views Brutal Doom more positively.

** [=SgtMark=]'s past behavior (ranging from telling a suicidal, depressed user to kill themselves, racist slurs hidden in coding, getting angry about ''VideoGame/Doom2016'' taking inspiration from his mod, planning on using actual pictures of dead people as sprites, and attacking naysayers when he won a [=ModDB=] award) got him banned from a lot of Doom communities. Either you think this is unfair and he's changed, or he's still an asshole.

*** [=SgtMark=]'s past behavior (ranging from telling a suicidal, depressed user to kill themselves, racist slurs hidden in coding, getting angry about ''VideoGame/Doom2016'' taking inspiration from his mod, planning on using actual pictures of dead people as sprites, and attacking naysayers when he won a [=ModDB=] award) got him banned from a lot of Doom communities. Either you think this is unfair and he's changed, or he's still an asshole.
* CatharsisFactor: '''''YES.'''''

* FollowTheLeader: There are a fair few variations of ''Brutal Doom'' that have been created by other ''Doom'' modders, and that's not even counting the "Mutator" side-mods that have been released.

* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Believe it or not, ''yes.'' The final splash screen of Extermination Day (the v20 starter pack WAD) is Doomguy, bloody and exhausted after his battle with the Icon of Sin, being helped along with his arms around a pair of his fellow Marines. He's also smiling happily.
** [[FridgeBrilliance It gets better]] when you realize that it's the opposite of the ending screen for the original ''Doom''. The ''Doom'' screen starts with a shot of a rabbit in a peaceful field before panning to a burning city with the rabbit's head on a pike. The Extermination Day screen starts with a burning city and pans to Doomguy and his comrades celebrating.

** The ''Brutal Doom'' version of the Icon of Sin has a full body instead of being a giant face on a wall. [[spoiler:In ''VideoGame/DoomEternal'', the Icon of Sin returns-and sure enough, he has a full body.]]

* SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound: ''Brutal Doom'' adds to the ''Doom'' repertoire of wonderful sounds with the splatter of enemies as you paint the walls with their blood and guts, weapon pick-ups for specific weapons, and the shotgun blast sounds meatier than ever.

* ThatOneBoss: Instead of two Barons of Hell at the end of the first episode, you fight two centaur-like demons who fling green explosive BFG-like blasts at you in a very small area. [[spoiler: The Mancubus Flame Cannon's flamethrower primary fire, however, [[AntiClimaxBoss turns them into a non-issue]]... assuming the player knows how to get the flame cannons in the first place, or has any ammo for it remaining when they get to the centaurs.]]

* DemonicSpiders: ''Brutal Doom's'' got a few.
** The gray-clad replacement for the blue-garbed [=Wolf3D=] Schutzstaffel could give the HECU Marines of ''VideoGame/BlackMesa'' a serious run for their money. Despite the spread of their [=MP40s=], they are nevertheless reasonably accurate at the ranges in which enemies are usually fought in ''[=DooM=]''--and up close, they will quickly reduce a target to a pile of gibs. What's worse is that the Nazis have lightning fast reaction times and often start sending lead downrange the instant they see a target. These guys are true nightmares on Realism Mode--the only saving grace is that their AI is easily exploitable, but even if you set up an ambush around a corner they will likely land a few shots before dying.

** In versions prior to v19, the laugh Doomguy belts out after doing a finisher on an enemy.

* GoodBadBugs: The invisible tracer spawned by the Offend command (used for "hit" detection when attempting to piss off demons) is, for all intents and purposes, treated the same as firing a bullet - one that's [[CherryTapping slow to fire and deals next to no damage]], but still enough that it can trigger linedefs that are meant to be triggered by attacking them. This means it's possible to open certain impact-activated doors and switches ''[[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments by telling them to go fuck themselves]]'', to say nothing of what it can do to enemies (from stopping a charging Lost Soul in its tracks by swearing at it to even [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_yv8j7JmTw killing enemies with low-enough health by flipping them off]]).