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** The Capitol suppresses an unpopular game and the memories of the victor.
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** The Capitol suppresses an unpopular game and the memories of the victor.victor.
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* Highly likely, possibly even confirmed, given the exchange Snow and Head Gamemaker Spartacus Brandybane in the game after Ermine’s victory (when they [[RocksFallEveryoneDies drop the Cornucopia and Careers into a pit]]).
-->'''Brandybane:''' I like Ermine. She's got spirit.
-->'''Snow:''' Oh certainly. Spirit and not one bit of gratitude for the privilege of being a Victor. She'll be useful enough once she's broken in, but this sense of entitlement needs to end. Now.
-->'''Brandybane:''' I like Ermine. She's got spirit.
-->'''Snow:''' Oh certainly. Spirit and not one bit of gratitude for the privilege of being a Victor. She'll be useful enough once she's broken in, but this sense of entitlement needs to end. Now.
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* Highly likely, possibly even confirmed, given the exchange Snow and Head Gamemaker Spartacus Brandybane in the game after Ermine’s Ermine's victory (when they [[RocksFallEveryoneDies drop the Cornucopia and Careers into a pit]]).
-->'''Brandybane:''' I like Ermine. She's gotspirit.
-->'''Snow:'''spirit.\\
'''Snow:''' Oh certainly. Spirit and not one bit of gratitude for the privilege of being a Victor. She'll be useful enough once she's broken in, but this sense of entitlement needs to end. Now.
-->'''Brandybane:''' I like Ermine. She's got
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'''Snow:''' Oh certainly. Spirit and not one bit of gratitude for the privilege of being a Victor. She'll be useful enough once she's broken in, but this sense of entitlement needs to end. Now.
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* Highly likely, possibly even confirmed, given the exchange Snow and Head Gamemaker Spartacus Brandybane in the game after Ermine’s victory (when they [[RocksFallEveryoneDies drop the Cornucopia and Careers into a pit]]).
-->'''Brandybane:''' I like Ermine. She's got spirit.
-->'''Snow:''' Oh certainly. Spirit and not one bit of gratitude for the privilege of being a Victor. She'll be useful enough once she's broken in, but this sense of entitlement needs to end. Now.
-->'''Brandybane:''' I like Ermine. She's got spirit.
-->'''Snow:''' Oh certainly. Spirit and not one bit of gratitude for the privilege of being a Victor. She'll be useful enough once she's broken in, but this sense of entitlement needs to end. Now.
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** Alive in District 14 but forgotten.
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** Alive in District 14 but forgotten.forgotten.
[[WMG: This fic partially inspired Creator/SuzanneCollins to write ''Literature/TheBalladOfSongbirdsAndSnakes'']]
* The list of similarities between the two works is so long that it's hard to pass off as coincidence.
** The first eight or nine Games are in a gladiator arena in the Capitol itself before rebels bomb the arena in a failed effort to stop the Games.
** District 12's first victor is reaped unfairly, wins the 10th Hunger Games, and spends a while hiding in a tunnel.
** Districts 1, 2, and 11 are all notable contenders in the first decade of the games.
** There are CategoryTraitor peacekeepers from Districts besides 2.
** One of the first ten victors escapes the districts to live in the woods.
** There is a prominent Romani subculture which initially travelled between districts before travel was banned and dreams of making lives for themselves outside of district boundaries. Both stories also have a victor from that subculture have a distinctive item of clothing (Circe's diklo and Lucy's rainbow dress), win by using stealth and poison, have the District 11 male as their final opponent, and form an oddly warm relationship with their Capitol escort.
** A District 3 tribute makes use of a drone in the arena.
** Snow allies with a gamekeeper during his rise to power.
** The Capitol suppresses an unpopular game and the memories of the victor.
[[WMG: This fic partially inspired Creator/SuzanneCollins to write ''Literature/TheBalladOfSongbirdsAndSnakes'']]
* The list of similarities between the two works is so long that it's hard to pass off as coincidence.
** The first eight or nine Games are in a gladiator arena in the Capitol itself before rebels bomb the arena in a failed effort to stop the Games.
** District 12's first victor is reaped unfairly, wins the 10th Hunger Games, and spends a while hiding in a tunnel.
** Districts 1, 2, and 11 are all notable contenders in the first decade of the games.
** There are CategoryTraitor peacekeepers from Districts besides 2.
** One of the first ten victors escapes the districts to live in the woods.
** There is a prominent Romani subculture which initially travelled between districts before travel was banned and dreams of making lives for themselves outside of district boundaries. Both stories also have a victor from that subculture have a distinctive item of clothing (Circe's diklo and Lucy's rainbow dress), win by using stealth and poison, have the District 11 male as their final opponent, and form an oddly warm relationship with their Capitol escort.
** A District 3 tribute makes use of a drone in the arena.
** Snow allies with a gamekeeper during his rise to power.
** The Capitol suppresses an unpopular game and the memories of the victor.
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[[WMG: People who may have commissioned the destruction of the 70th Hunger Games dam.]]
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[[WMG: People who may have commissioned Gloss and Cashmere to have the destruction of dam destroyed during the 70th Hunger Games dam.Games.]]
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* As Eamon is the only victor left unaccounted for as of the publishing of Arrow, theories abound as to what happened to Eamon.
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* As Eamon is the only victor left unaccounted for as of the publishing conclusion of Arrow, theories abound as to what happened to Eamon.
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[[WMG: Luster and Snow constantly uses Esther's remaining family as leverage to break Ermine following her victory.]]
As seen in her chapter, Ermine is defiant, particularly towards authority figures. Jade also notices during Ermine's televised execution that she also has a similar look before she's shot.
However, Ermine is involved in the prostitution ring (as seen during Justinian Trinket's 32nd birthday) and obeys Luster's cues to not mentor Song, both of which would contradict her personality. If she was true to her personality, she'd probably refuse to be sold and would help mentor Song to victory.
What's making Ermine now do Snow and Luster's bidding once she becomes Victor, then? She doesn't know her family, which makes using her family as leverage moot (as seen with Haymitch and Johanna). However Luster does know about Ermine's dear relationship with Esther, where he tells her that he'd kill Esther's remaining family if she doesn't become a Victor. So it's likely that Luster told Snow about that relationship, with the latter using it to his advantage.
As seen in her chapter, Ermine is defiant, particularly towards authority figures. Jade also notices during Ermine's televised execution that she also has a similar look before she's shot.
However, Ermine is involved in the prostitution ring (as seen during Justinian Trinket's 32nd birthday) and obeys Luster's cues to not mentor Song, both of which would contradict her personality. If she was true to her personality, she'd probably refuse to be sold and would help mentor Song to victory.
What's making Ermine now do Snow and Luster's bidding once she becomes Victor, then? She doesn't know her family, which makes using her family as leverage moot (as seen with Haymitch and Johanna). However Luster does know about Ermine's dear relationship with Esther, where he tells her that he'd kill Esther's remaining family if she doesn't become a Victor. So it's likely that Luster told Snow about that relationship, with the latter using it to his advantage.
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** {{Jossed}}. There is no mob or fight in Eleven by the time Katniss shoots the arrow. The Capitol disregards retaking Eleven and focuses on other districts, due to the local population using a SaltTheEarth tactic to put a stranglehold on the food supply. Instead, it focuses on what freedoms District Eleven now has now that there's no Capitol influence.
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** {{Jossed}}. There is no existing mob or fight in Eleven by the time Katniss shoots the arrow. The Capitol disregards retaking Eleven and focuses on other districts, districts that have more important reources. Justified due to the local population using a SaltTheEarth tactic to put a stranglehold on the food supply. Instead, it focuses on what freedoms the people of District Eleven now has have now that there's no Capitol influence.
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** {{Jossed}}. The chapter is an extension to the ''Hanging Tree'' song in the trilogy, with allusions to the Undersees and the Second Rebellion.
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** {{Jossed}}. There is no mob or fight in Eleven by the time Katniss shoots the arrow. The Capitol disregards retaking Eleven and focuses on other districts, due to the local population using a SaltTheEarth tactic to put a stranglehold on the food supply. Instead, it focuses on what freedoms District Eleven now has now that there's no Capitol influence.
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* Seneca Crane, seeking to discredit whoever was head Gamemaker before him.
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* Seneca Crane, seeking to discredit whoever was head Gamemaker before him.him.
[[WMG: What happened to Eamon?]]
* As Eamon is the only victor left unaccounted for as of the publishing of Arrow, theories abound as to what happened to Eamon.
** Disposed of before the 3rd Quarter Quell.
** Killed by Lizard Mutts when Katniss invaded the capitol.
** Alive in District 14 but forgotten.
[[WMG: What happened to Eamon?]]
* As Eamon is the only victor left unaccounted for as of the publishing of Arrow, theories abound as to what happened to Eamon.
** Disposed of before the 3rd Quarter Quell.
** Killed by Lizard Mutts when Katniss invaded the capitol.
** Alive in District 14 but forgotten.
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[[WMG: Possible people behind the 70th Hunger Games dam bursting.]]
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[[WMG: Possible people behind People who may have commissioned the destruction of the 70th Hunger Games dam bursting.dam.]]
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This WMG tab is referring to who hired Gloss and Cashmere to burst the dam, as it's mentioned that they did it on behalf of someone else, "for a price."
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* {{Jossed}}. In Gloss' chapter of TVP, it's mentioned that Cashmere and/or gloss were able to exert influence to convince the 70th Hunger Games Dam bursting
* {{Jossed}}. In Gloss' chapter of TVP, it's mentioned that Cashmere and/or gloss were able to exert influence to convince the 70th Hunger Games Dam bursting
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* Seneca Crane, seeking to discredit whoever was head Gamemaker before him.
* {{Jossed}}. In Gloss' chapter of TVP, it's mentioned that Cashmere and/or gloss were able to exert influence to convince the 70th Hunger Games Dam burstinghim.
* {{Jossed}}. In Gloss' chapter of TVP, it's mentioned that Cashmere and/or gloss were able to exert influence to convince the 70th Hunger Games Dam bursting
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* {{Jossed}}. In Gloss' chapter of TVP, it's mentioned that Cashmere and/or gloss were able to exert influence to convince the 70th Hunger Games Dam bursting
* {{Jossed}}. In Gloss' chapter of TVP, it's mentioned that Cashmere and/or gloss were able to exert influence to convince the 70th Hunger Games Dam bursting
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** {{Jossed}}. The chapter is a series of vignettes about individuals who suffered during the rebellion, although there is a description of a peacekeeper prisoner being tortured to death.
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** {{Jossed}}. There ''is'' a western-style climax (which the narration compares to a cavalry charge), but the ranchers side with the rebels. The only rebel identified by name in the chapter is Bovina.
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* The evacuation of the District during the bombing, maybe showing whether or not Haymitch had any fellow long-term rebels there.
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It was mentioned that her brothers "weren't exactly patriots" and maybe it was a warning to seven.
[[WMG: Berenice and/or Phoebus survived the bombing off the nut]]
In a situation like that it would be easy for Boudicca to assume they were dead when really they weren't, and the two might have had their reasons to stay hidden afterwards.
[[WMG: Berenice and/or Phoebus survived the bombing off the nut]]
In a situation like that it would be easy for Boudicca to assume they were dead when really they weren't, and the two might have had their reasons to stay hidden afterwards.
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[[WMG: Berenice and/or Phoebus survived the bombing
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[[WMG: Predictions for District 9's ''Arrow'' chapter]]
* One of Abram's former bullies as a rebel soldier pov.
* Another Peacekeeper MookHorrorShow from the peacekeepers pov.
[[WMG: Predictions for District 10's ''Arrow'' chapter]]
* A Western style showdown between the loyalist ranchers (maybe led by the Tully's) and peacekeepers against the rest of district ten's people (maybe with a relative of Danny and Elena as a POV character.
* Someone in Roan's family pulling a HazyFeelTurn over Roan being sent into the Quell.
[[WMG: Predictions for District 11's ''Arrow'' chapter]]
A siege where the peacekeepers are too frightened to come out and fight.
[[WMG: Predictions for District 12's ''Arrow'' chapter]]
* Prim or Gale's service in the rebellion.
* The evacuation of the District during the bombing, maybe showing whether or not Haymitch had any fellow long-term rebels there.
[[WMG: Johanna was a soft fix]]
It was mentioned that her brothers "weren't exactly patriots" and maybe it was a warning to seven.
[[WMG: Berenice and/or Phoebus survived the bombing off the nut]]
In a situation like that it would be easy for Boudicca to assume they were dead when really they weren't, and the two might have had their reasons to stay hidden afterwards.
[[WMG: Lyme survived the war, but in a coma]]
[[WMG: The third Head Gamemaker Snow executed was whoever allowed the sabotage of Annie's arena.]]
[[WMG: Possible people behind the 70th Hunger Games dam bursting.]]
* Mags and Finnick.
* Gamblers looking for a sure bet.
* Seneca Crane, seeking to discredit whoever was head gamemnaker before him.
* One of Abram's former bullies as a rebel soldier pov.
* Another Peacekeeper MookHorrorShow from the peacekeepers pov.
[[WMG: Predictions for District 10's ''Arrow'' chapter]]
* A Western style showdown between the loyalist ranchers (maybe led by the Tully's) and peacekeepers against the rest of district ten's people (maybe with a relative of Danny and Elena as a POV character.
* Someone in Roan's family pulling a HazyFeelTurn over Roan being sent into the Quell.
[[WMG: Predictions for District 11's ''Arrow'' chapter]]
A siege where the peacekeepers are too frightened to come out and fight.
[[WMG: Predictions for District 12's ''Arrow'' chapter]]
* Prim or Gale's service in the rebellion.
* The evacuation of the District during the bombing, maybe showing whether or not Haymitch had any fellow long-term rebels there.
[[WMG: Johanna was a soft fix]]
It was mentioned that her brothers "weren't exactly patriots" and maybe it was a warning to seven.
[[WMG: Berenice and/or Phoebus survived the bombing off the nut]]
In a situation like that it would be easy for Boudicca to assume they were dead when really they weren't, and the two might have had their reasons to stay hidden afterwards.
[[WMG: Lyme survived the war, but in a coma]]
[[WMG: The third Head Gamemaker Snow executed was whoever allowed the sabotage of Annie's arena.]]
[[WMG: Possible people behind the 70th Hunger Games dam bursting.]]
* Mags and Finnick.
* Gamblers looking for a sure bet.
* Seneca Crane, seeking to discredit whoever was head gamemnaker before him.
