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** Or more simply, nobody in Wonderland ages, and the White Rabbit's ability to move between worlds lets him move through time as well; after all, Jefferson's hat was able to pull objects out of the past.

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** Or more simply, nobody in Wonderland ages, and the White Rabbit's ability to move between worlds lets him move through time as well; after all, Jefferson's hat was able to pull objects out of the past.past.
*** Why would Rumplestiltskin think that banishing Cora to a world where she will never age and will have access to all sorts of powerful magics is a good idea?

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** Perhaps the flashback with Robin Hood, Knave and the Red Queen did take place over twenty-eight years ago. Time may flow differently in Wonderland. In the show's opening scene Alice's Father says that she was gone a long time but Alice acted as if YearOutsideHourInside.
*** Possible, but the Red Queen says Alice was just a little girl when they first met and Alice talks about the Hatter in a way that indicates she knew him. Jefferson hasn't been in Wonderland for 28 years and since Alice first went there when she was 7, this would mean that despite her appearance she is actually almost 40 at least (assuming she met Jefferson while she was a child and not as an adult, which would make her even older). One would think that the fact that she was not aging properly would be proof of her fantastical claims.

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** * Perhaps the flashback with Robin Hood, Knave and the Red Queen did take place over twenty-eight years ago. Time may flow differently in Wonderland. In the show's opening scene Alice's Father says that she was gone a long time but Alice acted as if YearOutsideHourInside.
*** ** Possible, but the Red Queen says Alice was just a little girl when they first met and Alice talks about the Hatter in a way that indicates she knew him. Jefferson hasn't been in Wonderland for 28 years and since Alice first went there when she was 7, this would mean that despite her appearance she is actually almost 40 at least (assuming she met Jefferson while she was a child and not as an adult, which would make her even older). One would think that the fact that she was not aging properly would be proof of her fantastical claims.claims.
** Or more simply, nobody in Wonderland ages, and the White Rabbit's ability to move between worlds lets him move through time as well; after all, Jefferson's hat was able to pull objects out of the past.
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*** Possible, but the Red Queen says Alice was just a little girl when they first met and Alice talks about the Hatter in a way that indicates she knew him. Jefferson hasn't been in Wonderland for 28 years and since Alice first went there when she was 7, this would mean that despite her appearance she is actually almost 40 at least. One would think that the fact that she was not aging properly would be proof of her fantastical claims.

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*** Possible, but the Red Queen says Alice was just a little girl when they first met and Alice talks about the Hatter in a way that indicates she knew him. Jefferson hasn't been in Wonderland for 28 years and since Alice first went there when she was 7, this would mean that despite her appearance she is actually almost 40 at least.least (assuming she met Jefferson while she was a child and not as an adult, which would make her even older). One would think that the fact that she was not aging properly would be proof of her fantastical claims.
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** Perhaps the flashback with Robin Hood, Knave and the Red Queen did take place over twenty-eight years ago. Time may flow differently in Wonderland. In the show's opening scene Alice's Father says that she was gone a long time but Alice acted as if YearOutsideHourInside.

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** Perhaps the flashback with Robin Hood, Knave and the Red Queen did take place over twenty-eight years ago. Time may flow differently in Wonderland. In the show's opening scene Alice's Father says that she was gone a long time but Alice acted as if YearOutsideHourInside.YearOutsideHourInside.
*** Possible, but the Red Queen says Alice was just a little girl when they first met and Alice talks about the Hatter in a way that indicates she knew him. Jefferson hasn't been in Wonderland for 28 years and since Alice first went there when she was 7, this would mean that despite her appearance she is actually almost 40 at least. One would think that the fact that she was not aging properly would be proof of her fantastical claims.
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The characters in Storybrooke were in a time loop and the characters in the Enchanted Forest under Cora's bubble were in suspended animation for 28 years, which is why none of them aged in that time. Given that Agrabah doesn't seem to be effected by the Curse, it is possible that Jafar's fashbacks mostly take place in a post-Curse Fairy Tale Land but characters like the Knave and the Red Queen were present in the Enchanted Forest over 28 years ago and should now be in their 50s.

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The characters in Storybrooke were in a time loop and the characters in the Enchanted Forest under Cora's bubble were in suspended animation for 28 years, which is why none of them aged in that time. Given that Agrabah doesn't seem to be effected by the Curse, it is possible that Jafar's fashbacks mostly take place in a post-Curse Fairy Tale Land but characters like the Knave and the Red Queen were present in the Enchanted Forest over 28 years ago and should now be in their 50s.50s.
**Perhaps the flashback with Robin Hood, Knave and the Red Queen did take place over twenty-eight years ago. Time may flow differently in Wonderland. In the show's opening scene Alice's Father says that she was gone a long time but Alice acted as if YearOutsideHourInside.
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The characters in Storybrooke were in a time loop and the characters in the Enchanted Forest under Cora's bubble were in suspended animation for 28 years. Given that Agrabah doesn't seem to be effected by the Curse, it is possible that Jafar's fashbacks mostly take place in a post-Curse Fairy Tale Land but characters like the Knave and the Red Queen were present in the Enchanted Forest over 28 years ago and should now be in their 50s.

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The characters in Storybrooke were in a time loop and the characters in the Enchanted Forest under Cora's bubble were in suspended animation for 28 years.years, which is why none of them aged in that time. Given that Agrabah doesn't seem to be effected by the Curse, it is possible that Jafar's fashbacks mostly take place in a post-Curse Fairy Tale Land but characters like the Knave and the Red Queen were present in the Enchanted Forest over 28 years ago and should now be in their 50s.
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The characters in s/torybrooke were in a time loop and the characters in the Enchanted Forest under Cora's bubble were in suspended animation for 28 years. Given that Agrabah doesn't seem to be effected by the Curse, it is possible that Jafar's fashbacks mostly take place in a post-Curse Fairy Tale Land but characters like the Knave and the Red Queen were present in the Enchanted Forest over 28 years ago and should now be in their 50s.

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The characters in s/torybrooke Storybrooke were in a time loop and the characters in the Enchanted Forest under Cora's bubble were in suspended animation for 28 years. Given that Agrabah doesn't seem to be effected by the Curse, it is possible that Jafar's fashbacks mostly take place in a post-Curse Fairy Tale Land but characters like the Knave and the Red Queen were present in the Enchanted Forest over 28 years ago and should now be in their 50s.
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Then he'll use all three of his wishes at once to [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming free Cyrus]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome from the bottle.]] It'll work out fine because while the wish is huge its divide by the three wishes with the price being that he could only make that one wish.

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Then he'll use all three of his wishes at once to [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming free Cyrus]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome from the bottle.]] It'll work out fine because while the wish is huge its divide by the three wishes with the price being that he could only make that one wish.wish.

[[WMG: The writers have forgotten about the 28 years the Curse was in effect.]]
The characters in s/torybrooke were in a time loop and the characters in the Enchanted Forest under Cora's bubble were in suspended animation for 28 years. Given that Agrabah doesn't seem to be effected by the Curse, it is possible that Jafar's fashbacks mostly take place in a post-Curse Fairy Tale Land but characters like the Knave and the Red Queen were present in the Enchanted Forest over 28 years ago and should now be in their 50s.

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**Not to mention that [[spoiler: The Sultan rather or not he's the one from Aladdin is Jafar's father, who left him because he was illegitimate therefor Jafar keeping him as prisoner would be his revenge, the mock little bow he did in the last episode pretty much meant "I win dad."]]
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Why else would Jafar keep someone alive when he has the habit of [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness killing anyone when he gets what he wants from them? Because if the old man is the Sultan then he makes a great bargaining chip for Jasmine's in show counterpart.

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Why else would Jafar keep someone alive when he has the habit of [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness killing anyone when he gets what he wants from them? them?]] Because if the old man is the Sultan then he makes a great bargaining chip for Jasmine's in show counterpart.

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* Given her visual shock(if it can't be considered concern) at the mention of the Knave of Hearts, possible.



Of characters hitherto unseen in the show or its' parent. He's either going to be this show's equivalent of Cora, or a good version of Cora.

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Of characters hitherto unseen in the show or its' parent. He's either going to be this show's equivalent of Cora, or a good version of Cora.Cora.
* So he's not the Sultan?

[[WMG: The Old Prisoner is the Sultan]]
Why else would Jafar keep someone alive when he has the habit of [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness killing anyone when he gets what he wants from them? Because if the old man is the Sultan then he makes a great bargaining chip for Jasmine's in show counterpart.

[[WMG: Alice will use up all her wishes and the Knave will get the bottle]]
Then he'll use all three of his wishes at once to [[CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming free Cyrus]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome from the bottle.]] It'll work out fine because while the wish is huge its divide by the three wishes with the price being that he could only make that one wish.

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* Bah! Jafar is a ''peripheral'' part of the old man's plan. After all, the one thing we know about him is that he's a ChessMaster.
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The Looking Glass messed her up. Maleficent warned that there would be consequences for its use and if [[Series/OnceUponATime the parent show]] has taught us anything, it's that all magic comes with a price and that price typically takes the form of the loss of someone you love. [[spoiler: Will paid the price for his careless use of magic by seeing the woman he loved corrupted into the cold-hearted Red Queen.]]

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The Looking Glass messed her up. Maleficent warned that there would be consequences for its use and if [[Series/OnceUponATime the parent show]] has taught us anything, it's that all magic comes with a price and that price typically takes the form of the loss of someone you love. [[spoiler: Will paid the price for his careless use of magic by seeing the woman he loved corrupted into the cold-hearted Red Queen.]]]]

[[WMG: The old man in the dungeon with Cyrus is going to turn out to be a CompositeCharacter.]]
Of characters hitherto unseen in the show or its' parent. He's either going to be this show's equivalent of Cora, or a good version of Cora.
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* It is Alice In Wonderland after all. It would hardly be complete without appearances by The Mad Hatter, at least in flashbacks. He may even make some present day appearances, since there's some evidence to suggest that he finally got one of his hats to work. (Namely, the fact that The Dark Curse obviously didn't go tearing through Wonderland looking for him.)
** Not necessarily, the Dark Curse was able to pull Frankenstein out of his world, so it didn't just effect Fairy Tale Land. In fact given the timeline of Alice's adventures, it is quite likely that the curse didn't even effect Agrabah which is also in Fairy Tale Land. It would seem that the curse mainly just effected the Enchanted Forest part of Fairy Tale Land, which is where all of Regina's enemies were located. It was more of a targeted Rapture of Regina's hit list rather then an indiscriminate WMD.

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* It is Alice In Wonderland after all. It would hardly be complete without appearances by The Mad Hatter, at least in flashbacks. He may even make some present day appearances, since there's some evidence to suggest that he finally got one of his hats to work. (Namely, the fact that The Dark Curse obviously didn't go tearing through Wonderland looking for him.)
** * Not necessarily, the Dark Curse was able to pull Frankenstein out of his world, so it didn't just effect Fairy Tale Land. In fact given the timeline of Alice's adventures, it is quite likely that the curse didn't even effect Agrabah which is also in Fairy Tale Land. It would seem that the curse mainly just effected the Enchanted Forest part of Fairy Tale Land, which is where all of Regina's enemies were located. It was more of a targeted Rapture of Regina's hit list rather then an indiscriminate WMD.



** Given Jafar's propensity for [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness killing people who are of no use to him]], we can safely presume that he isn't just keeping the guy in there for decoration.

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** Given Jafar's propensity for [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness killing people who are of no use to him]], we can safely presume that he isn't just keeping the guy in there for decoration.



* The Looking Glass messed her up. Maleficent warned that there would be consequences for its use and if [[Series/OnceUponATime the parent show]] has taught us anything, it's that all magic comes with a price and that price typically takes the form of the loss of someone you love. [[spoiler: Will paid the price for his careless use of magic by seeing the woman he loved corrupted into the cold-hearted Red Queen.]]

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* The Looking Glass messed her up. Maleficent warned that there would be consequences for its use and if [[Series/OnceUponATime the parent show]] has taught us anything, it's that all magic comes with a price and that price typically takes the form of the loss of someone you love. [[spoiler: Will paid the price for his careless use of magic by seeing the woman he loved corrupted into the cold-hearted Red Queen.]]
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** Given Jafar's propensity for [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness killing people who are of no use to him]], we can safely presume that he isn't just keeping the guy in there for decoration.

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** Given Jafar's propensity for [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness killing people who are of no use to him]], we can safely presume that he isn't just keeping the guy in there for decoration.decoration.

[[WMG: The Red Queen's evil isn't entirely her fault]]
* The Looking Glass messed her up. Maleficent warned that there would be consequences for its use and if [[Series/OnceUponATime the parent show]] has taught us anything, it's that all magic comes with a price and that price typically takes the form of the loss of someone you love. [[spoiler: Will paid the price for his careless use of magic by seeing the woman he loved corrupted into the cold-hearted Red Queen.]]
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She already knows what Jafar is [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness planning for her]] and she is probably already plotting a way to defend herself.

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She already knows what Jafar is [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness planning for her]] and she is probably already plotting a way to defend herself.herself.

[[WMG: The old man in the dungeon with Cyrus is a central part of Jafar's plan.]]
** Given Jafar's propensity for [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness killing people who are of no use to him]], we can safely presume that he isn't just keeping the guy in there for decoration.
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** Even if that's true, the original series demonstrated early in Season 2 that his original hat still works perfectly, so the possibility still exists.
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Alice remembers him as a friend and his ObviouslyEvil apperance shocks her. He also mentions the Red Queen promised that Alice would be the sweetest meat he ever tasting, implying she had something to do with it.

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Alice remembers him as a friend and his ObviouslyEvil apperance shocks her. He also mentions the Red Queen promised that Alice would be the sweetest meat he ever tasting, tasted, implying she had something to do with it.
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Alice remembers him as a friend and his {{ObvisoulyEvil}} apperance shocks her. He also mentions the Red Queen promised that Alice would be the sweetest meat he ever tasting, implying she had something to do with it.

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Alice remembers him as a friend and his {{ObvisoulyEvil}} ObviouslyEvil apperance shocks her. He also mentions the Red Queen promised that Alice would be the sweetest meat he ever tasting, implying she had something to do with it.
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** Not necessarily, the Dark Curse was able to pull Frankenstein out of his world, so it didn't just effect Fairy Tale Land. In fact given the timeline of Alice's adventures, it is quite likely that the curse didn't even effect Agrabah which is also in Fairy Tale Land. It would seem that the curse mainly just effected the Enchanted Forest part of Fairy Tale Land, which is where all of Regina's enemies were located. It was more of a targeted Rapture of Regina's hit list rather then a indiscriminate WMD.

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** Not necessarily, the Dark Curse was able to pull Frankenstein out of his world, so it didn't just effect Fairy Tale Land. In fact given the timeline of Alice's adventures, it is quite likely that the curse didn't even effect Agrabah which is also in Fairy Tale Land. It would seem that the curse mainly just effected the Enchanted Forest part of Fairy Tale Land, which is where all of Regina's enemies were located. It was more of a targeted Rapture of Regina's hit list rather then a an indiscriminate WMD.
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** Not necessarily, the Dark Curse was able to pull Frankenstein out of his world, so it didn't just effect Fairy Tale Land. In fact given the timeline of Alice's adventures, it is quite likely that the curse didn't even effect Agrabah which is also in Fairy Tale Land. It would seem that the curse mainly just effect the Enchanted Forest part of Fairy Tale Land, which is where all of Regina's enemies were located. It was more of a targeted Rapture of Regina's hit list rather then a indiscriminate WMD.

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** Not necessarily, the Dark Curse was able to pull Frankenstein out of his world, so it didn't just effect Fairy Tale Land. In fact given the timeline of Alice's adventures, it is quite likely that the curse didn't even effect Agrabah which is also in Fairy Tale Land. It would seem that the curse mainly just effect effected the Enchanted Forest part of Fairy Tale Land, which is where all of Regina's enemies were located. It was more of a targeted Rapture of Regina's hit list rather then a indiscriminate WMD.
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** Not necessarily, the Dark Curse was able to pull Frankenstein out of his world, so it didn't just effect Fairy Tale Land. In fact given the timeline of Alice's adventures, it is quite likely that the curse didn't even effect Agrabah which is also in Fairy Tale Land. It would seem that the curse mainly just effect the Enchanted Forest part of Fairy Tale Land, which is where all of Regina's enemies were located. It was more of a targeted Rapture of Regina's hit list rather then a indiscriminate WMD.
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Alice remembers him as a friend and his {{ObvisoulyEvil}} apperance shocks her. He also mentions the Red Queen promised that Alice would be the sweetest meat he ever tasting, implying she had something to do with it.

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Alice remembers him as a friend and his {{ObvisoulyEvil}} apperance shocks her. He also mentions the Red Queen promised that Alice would be the sweetest meat he ever tasting, implying she had something to do with it.it.

[[WMG: The Red Queen will eventually form an alliance with Alice.]]
She already knows what Jafar is [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness planning for her]] and she is probably already plotting a way to defend herself.
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* Or they could be magic tarts with magical properties such as size-changing.

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* Or they could be magic tarts with magical properties such as size-changing.size-changing.

[[WMG: The Cheshire Cat is under the influence of an evil curse]]
Alice remembers him as a friend and his {{ObvisoulyEvil}} apperance shocks her. He also mentions the Red Queen promised that Alice would be the sweetest meat he ever tasting, implying she had something to do with it.
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Since ''OUAT Wonderland'' is integrating the characters of Aladdin and Creator/GiancarloEsposito is unlikely to return for more than a brief scene, it will likely be revealed that Cyrus was Aladdin's Genie and may have been a successor to the original Genie after he was turned into the Magic Mirror.

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Since ''OUAT Wonderland'' is integrating the characters of Aladdin and Creator/GiancarloEsposito is unlikely to return for more than a brief scene, it will likely be revealed that Cyrus was Aladdin's Genie and may have been a successor to the original Genie after he was turned into the Magic Mirror. This will allow them to explore the OUAT version of ''Aladdin'' more deeply.
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[[WMG: Aladdin's Geniewas Cyrus, not Sidney.]]

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[[WMG: Aladdin's Geniewas Genie was Cyrus, not Sidney.]]
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Obviously enough, but maybe taken in a more dramatic direction though...somehow. "Tarts" could be people, and he helped them escape Wonderland, like how "Oysters" were people in SyFy's {{Alice}}

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Obviously enough, but maybe taken in a more dramatic direction though...somehow. "Tarts" could be people, and he helped them escape Wonderland, like how "Oysters" were people in SyFy's {{Alice}}{{Alice}}
* Or they could be magic tarts with magical properties such as size-changing.
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* It should be noted that in the original story of ''{{Literature/Aladdin}}'', there were two genies.

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* It should be noted that in the original story of ''{{Literature/Aladdin}}'', there were two genies.genies.

[[WMG: The Knave of Hearts' crime is that he stole some tarts.]]
Obviously enough, but maybe taken in a more dramatic direction though...somehow. "Tarts" could be people, and he helped them escape Wonderland, like how "Oysters" were people in SyFy's {{Alice}}

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[[WMG: We'll be seeing more of [[Series/OnceUponATime Jefferson]] in this series]].
* It is Alice In Wonderland after all. It would hardly be complete without appearances by The Mad Hatter, at least in flashbacks. He may even make some present day appearances, since there's some evidence to suggest that he finally got one of his hats to work. (Namely, the fact that The Dark Curse obviously didn't go tearing through Wonderland looking for him.)

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[[WMG: We'll be seeing more of [[Series/OnceUponATime Jefferson]] in this series]].
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* It is Alice In Wonderland after all. It would hardly be complete without appearances by The Mad Hatter, at least in flashbacks. He may even make some present day appearances, since there's some evidence to suggest that he finally got one of his hats to work. (Namely, the fact that The Dark Curse obviously didn't go tearing through Wonderland looking for him.))

[[WMG: Aladdin's Geniewas Cyrus, not Sidney.]]
Since ''OUAT Wonderland'' is integrating the characters of Aladdin and Creator/GiancarloEsposito is unlikely to return for more than a brief scene, it will likely be revealed that Cyrus was Aladdin's Genie and may have been a successor to the original Genie after he was turned into the Magic Mirror.
* It should be noted that in the original story of ''{{Literature/Aladdin}}'', there were two genies.
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[[WMG: We'll be seeing more of [[Series/OnceUponATime Jefferson]] in this series]].
* It is Alice In Wonderland after all. It would hardly be complete without appearances by The Mad Hatter, at least in flashbacks. He may even make some present day appearances, since there's some evidence to suggest that he finally got one of his hats to work. (Namely, the fact that The Dark Curse obviously didn't go tearing through Wonderland looking for him.)

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