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* Most likely joshed- on the first page of the manga, Lyons mother and father can both be seen.

[[http://moe.animecharactersdatabase.com/uploads/chars/4758-1654801420.jpg Taniguchi]] and [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/HarSuzStuCoPrez.jpg the Student Council President]] look a great deal alike; two of the few characters (at least, in the anime) with black hair, similar hairstyles (all slicked back except four locks that hang in front and one IdiotHair in the middle of them), similar faces (except when the President's wearing his glasses), depending on the shot (of Taniguchi), they both have the same skintone (it seems to vary depending on if it's spring/summer or winter/autumn). The main difference is Taniguchi's eyes are a brownish-red and the President clearly has blue eyes.

She's just as DangerouslyGenreSavvy as Haruhi, and knows that a RefusalOfTheCall will establish you as a humble and reasonable person from whom AGodAmI declaration would seem completely out of the question. Methinks she doth protest too much.

[[WMG: Mikuru isn't just a Time Lord she is [[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor herself]]]]

* Maybe the Computer Club President is really [[DoctorWho The Master]] using an old name- [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/DoctorWhoS29E11Utopia? Yana]]. It fits the "phonetically similar to Ya-nyan" thing. Or... maybe it's similar to not Ya''nyan'' but Ya''meow''. His name could thus be Yamato, for instance. Perhaps not as in YamatoNadeshiko (though perhaps his genderbent counterpart might become one), but as in the old, flowery word for Japan.

* Maybe the Computer Club President is really [[DoctorWho The Master]] using an old name- [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/DoctorWhoS29E11Utopia?from=Recap.DoctorWhoNSS3E11Utopia Yana]]. It fits the "phonetically similar to Ya-nyan" thing. Or... maybe it's similar to not Ya''nyan'' but Ya''meow''. His name could thus be Yamato, for instance. Perhaps not as in YamatoNadeshiko (though perhaps his genderbent counterpart might become one), but as in the old, flowery word for Japan.

It could be that he had an unusual name, say, surname Ya from Chinese ancestry and personal name Nyan or (misread) ryan[sic] from a hebrew-speaking parent or parent who found western or mythological names interesting, or that his favorite snack was at one time [=YanYan=] (or someone called him that after an embarrassing incident involving chocolate creme) and he would NeverLiveItDown.

Have you ever tried to Google him and watched the possible search options list as it appears? One of the names that comes up if you type in "Fujiwara Ha(ruhi)" is Fujiwara [[TheGenderbendingOfHaruhiSuzumiya Haruhiko]], Haruhiko being one of the two choices people give the male Haruhi for a name (the other being Haruki). Fujiwara was given the name of a Japanese professor of science as a pseudonym (but only for his surname, as there was no need to change his given name when it's different from Haruhi's) when he crossed over to the alternate universe so that he would not know of his powers and that Haruhi would not know of hers. His memory was altered by his own subconscious (possibly the same part of Haruhi's subconscious that became Yasumi) to protect both universes. This is also why he mistakes only child Mikuru for his older sister; it's residual memories of the equally doll-faced Mitsuuru.

* First, as seen in the movie, [[spoiler: Ryoko was fully aware that Yuki conjured the alternate timeline and brought her back into it - "isn't this what you wished for?"]] Second, [[spoiler: in Book Ten, she was involved in the Beta timeline, though gave no indication of knowing it was going to be re-routed by Haruhi.]] That's two alternate timelines that she's rather deliberately entered and gotten herself involved in the plots of. Maybe [[spoiler: the "special circumstances" she can come back within are points where the timeline is diverging or offset in a new direction?]]

she wanted one of the minor characters in her school to look like a young boy so she picked a random person she would meet in high school and made sure he would look that way. it wasn't an idea that was important to her so she put him in a position where he would frequently be used as a filler character when the SOS brigade needs extra people instead of making him join. she made sure he would get to spend a lot of time with the girl he was interested in (Tsuruya) as compensation for the inconvenience.

she wanted one of the minor characters in her school to look like a young boy so she picked a random person she would meet in high school and made sure he would look that way. it wasn't an idea that was important to her so she put him in a position where he would frequently be used as a filler character when the SOS brigade needs extra people instead of making him join.

* volume 11 suggests he is interested in Tsuruya, but that doesn't disprove this WMG.

* If one did not know he was supposed to be in high school, they might think he was an elementary school student. Especially compared to Kyon, who looks like he should be in college, meaning appearance wise. Of course, the reason Kunikida would be going to the school as a guy would be unknown...

Book: Remote Island Syndrome: Imouto stays home, no shadow. Haruhi makes everything real [[spoiler: Or does she?]][[hottip:?: Or doesn't she?]] \\

[[WMG: Tanigawa Nagaru is actually an adherent of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordian Discordianism]] and the series is pretty much an [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mindfuck Operation Mindfuck]] pet project of his.]]

That said, recall, if you will, Koizumi's hypothesis in Snow Mountain Syndrome that the SOS Brigade members in the mansion are duplicates of the real SOS Brigade, akin to a save file on a game, and that the perpetrator of the scenario was likely to have been intending to provoke Haruhi. Therefore, Kukyou [[spoiler:and/or the Canopy Domain (hitherto only referred as "Kuyou" alone) is attempting this tactic again, this time in the real world so the SOS Brigade would be convinced that this "save" is the reality, as opposed to the "Main/ControllableHelplessness" of the mansion, dismissing the possibility of "escape". The "save point" is right when Kyon picks up the phone (since that's where the split occurs). The α save is the default reality, while the ß save is the alternate created by Kuyou, and it's no holds barred: disabling Nagato, the Anti-SOS meeting Kyon, etc. When Kuyou grabbed Kimidori's arm, she was disconnecting Kimidori from the Data Integrated Thought Entity and weakening her like she did with Nagato (it would be counterintuitive to have an active IDTE Interface in the ß save). Additionally, girl that catches Kyon's interest in the α save is the Slider, in the dimensional and spatial sense; in other words, not only can she slide between dimensions, but she can slide through space (hence how she entered the Clubroom; she's the mysterious twelfth first-year); she'll join as the Main/SixthRanger.]]

[[spoiler:However, considering she doesn´t really get the difference between "alive" and "dead" and Kyon find her just HighOctaneNightmareFuel, it still may be somewhat better Asakura appeared. Somewhat...]]

That said, recall, if you will, Koizumi's hypothesis in Snow Mountain Syndrome that the SOS Brigade members in the mansion are duplicates of the real SOS Brigade, akin to a save file on a game, and that the perpetrator of the scenario was likely to have been intending to provoke Haruhi. Therefore, Kukyou [[spoiler:and/or the Canopy Domain (hitherto only referred as "Kuyou" alone) is attempting this tactic again, this time in the real world so the SOS Brigade would be convinced that this "save" is the reality, as opposed to the "Main/ControllableHelplessness" of the mansion, dismissing the possibility of "escape". The "save point" is right when Kyon picks up the phone (since that's where the split occurs). The α save is the default reality, while the ß save is the alternate created by Kuyou, and it's no holds barred: disabling Nagato, the Anti-SOS meeting Kyon, etc. When Kuyou grabbed Kimidori's arm, she was disconnecting Kimidori from the Data Integrated Thought Entity and weakening her like she did with Nagato (it would be counterintuitive to have an active IDTE Interface in the ß save). Additionally, girl that catches Kyon's interest in the α save is the Slider, in the dimensional and spatial sense; in other words, not only can she slide between dimensions, but she can slide through space (hence how she entered the Clubroom; she's the mysterious twelfth first-year); she'll join as the Main/SixthRanger.]]

[[spoiler:However, considering she doesn´t really get the difference between "alive" and "dead" and Kyon find her just HighOctaneNightmareFuel, it still may be somewhat better Asakura appeared. Somewhat...]]

[[WMG: [[AzumangaDaioh Sakaki]] is Sasaki.]]

* If one did not know he was supposed to be in high school, they might think he was an elementary school student. Especially compared to Kyon, who looks like he should be in college, meaning appearance wise. Of course, the reason Kunikida would be going to the school as a guy would be unknown...

* So what will happen when she touches her DeathNote again?

[[OrIsIt Or is she?]] Perhaps at some point, Johnny finally gets tired of his wild imagination pulling him into crazy situations and bestows his powers on Kirsty, who being the [[IHaveManyNames identity challenged]] person she is warps both her and Johnny into completely new identities and forms, as well as a different island nation. Still a bit of a backwater though.

** Someone from the organisation had to keep an eye on Haruhi in middle school - a teacher could have done it, but a student could have gotten closer. Taniguchi did say he was in her class the whole time, and apparently tried to get close, so he fits. When they ended up in the same high school he was supposed to carry on as before, but overheard Harhui wanting a 'Mysterious Transfer Student', thus tipping off the organisation to send in Itsuki, who would be able to get into the club Haruhi had set up. Kunikida, who went to middle school with Kyon, is only really likely to be an esper if Kyon is a/the real god, unless he's one of Sasaki's espers, and couldn't go with her because she entered an all-girl's school.

Taniguchi is taller, more outspoken, looks a lot older, flirts constantly, and tries to talk himself up (seme). Kunikida is child-like in appearence, shorter, quieter, and often follows (uke). Not to mention they're {{Those Two Guys}}, and [[HoYay look what happened to Rosencrantz and Guildenstern when they got their own backstory]].

The events surrounding Haruhi and the conspiracies which battle over her are too large to go unnoticed by people who's whole jobs are to anylize data for threats to the country they are from. It is highly likely that someone connected the dots and have already infiltrated the high school. As Haruhi gets older and more mature, she may find entertainment in government conspiracies as well.

It could be that he had an unusual name, say, surname Ya from chinese ancestry and personal name Nyan or (misread) ryan[sic] from a hebrew-speaking parent or parent who found western or mythological names interesting, or that his favorite snack was at one time [=YanYan=] (or someone called him that after an embarassing incident involving chocolate creme) and he would NeverLiveItDown.

Think about it; we don't really know much about them yet. Fujiwara is an asshole, but it seems to be a WellIntentionedExtremist. Kyoko seems to be a kind individual, and only commits evil deeds on orders from her morally ambiguous leaders. Kuyo seems entirely robotic, but it seems this is just because Sky Canopy Domain cannot comprehend a perfect ambassador to human thought processes.

If there is no time travel, Mikuru can't be sent back. If Mikuru isn't sent back, she can't take Kyon to 3 years ago. If Kyon doesn't go back to 3YA, Haruhi won't meet John Smith. If Haruhi doesn't meet John Smith, she goes to Koyouen. If she goes to Koyouen, we get a bored god-powered girl(Alt!Haruhi). But, if Haruhi is Alt!Haruhi, she might rewrite the universe out of boredom, bringing back the whole madness. Unless, he shares Kyoko's idea of Haruhi being a copy of Sasaki's powers, and thinks that the copying happened when she met John Smith. So if she never meets him, the SOS brigade won't exist. Yuki and Ryoko won't be sent to observe, Mikuru is out of the picture, the Organization isn't intrested in Haruhi. However, all four parties (IDSE, SCD, the Organization and Kyoko's group) would turn to Sasaki.

That said, recall, if you will, Koizumi's hypothesis in Snow Mountain Syndrome that the SOS Brigade members in the mansion are duplicates of the real SOS Brigade, akin to a save file on a game, and that the perpetrator of the scenario was likely to have been intending to provoke Haruhi. Therefore, Kukyou [[spoiler:and/or the Canopy Domain (hitherto only referred as "Kuyou" alone) is attempting this tactic again, this time in the real world so the SOS Brigade would be convinced that this "save" is the reality, as opposed to the "Main/ControllableHelplessness" of the mansion, dismissing the possiblity of "escape". The "save point" is right when Kyon picks up the phone (since that's where the split occurs). The α save is the default reality, while the ß save is the alternate created by Kuyou, and it's no holds barred: disabling Nagato, the Anti-SOS meeting Kyon, etc. When Kuyou grabbed Kimidori's arm, she was disconnecting Kimidori from the Data Integrated Thought Entity and weakening her like she did with Nagato (it would be counterintuitive to have an active IDTE Interface in the ß save). Additionally, girl that catches Kyon's interest in the α save is the Slider, in the dimensional and spatial sense; in other words, not only can she slide between dimensions, but she can slide through space (hence how she entered the Clubroom; she's the mysterious twelfth first-year); she'll join as the Main/SixthRanger.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Kuyou is in love with Kyon and didn´t want to attack him in the first chapter of vol. 10.]]]]

My guess is that Kyon and Little Sister retain their link to the old world, their old place, place of origin, whatever you may call it, or are amongst the few beings that, for one reason or another, Haruhi doesn;t affect in the same way as everything else. The thing that makes it so Kyon is the rock Haruhi can't lift, because he's from outside her jurisdiction, or the wrong format, or whatever. This is the connection that allows the shadowy person (probably an interface of an alternate IDE, likely connected to or the same character as Kuyou) to exist, as Haruhi's enthusiasm for closed-circle mysteries and the presence of at least two of whatever-or-from-wherever-Kyon-is are among the minimum requirements to effect such a situation. Kuyou's strongly implied abilities beyond what has been confirmed would provide another link between her and the shadowy-yet(-[[WeirdnessCensor incredibly]]?)-unremarkable person who was most likely the cause of the _____ Syndrome locked spaces, but it is not absolutely necessary.

As mentioned by me above If you read them only passingly you might think they where about Haruhi or just school life, but I was going over the lyrics and noticed something. This takes into account Ryoko is made to be more socialble then Yuki.

[[WMG: Ryoko had alternitive motives for attacking Kyon...jealousy]]
Ryoko noticed Yuki began acting diffrently after she went to the libary with Kyon. She realised Kyon had sparked some reaction in Yuki that she originally wanted to spark. This caused confict inside her, killing Kyon would effect Haruhi and effect Yuki so she decided to convince herself it was to make Haruhi react so she could kill Kyon without guilt as it was a mission she had to do.

She's playing Kyon to an unknown RealityWarper. Think of Day of Sagittarius; if the boss goes down, the whole side goes down, so you don't put the boss where the enemy can see them. Quite possibly, Sasaki has already played her "trump card", and so can set up situations more to her liking than Kyon can. Also, aside from Kuyoh, this would make Sasaki's team a gender flip of Haruhi's; maybe the Sudou supposed to be organising the middle school reunion is Evil Haruhi. The reason they need Kyon is to destabilise Haruhi enough that she can be taken out without her rewriting her own defeat.

* Alternatively, only Taniguchi is special. He receives much more attention, even on the novels (before being dubbed by Shirashi Minoru). Also Yuki ''did'' describes him as a "interesting person". And whe she used similar word to describes Haruhi and herself she wasn't talking about '''[[ArtificialHuman the]]''' '''[[RealityWarper obvious]]'''.

Book: Remote Island Syndrome: Imouto stays home, no shadow. Haruhi makes everything real [[spoiler: [[OrIsIt Or does she]]?]][[hottip:?: [[OrIsIt Or doesn't she]]?]] \\