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* DamnYouMuscleMemory: In ''Thracia 776'', the priority of the "wait" button on the action menu is cranked way up, above pretty much everything but attacking, meaning that for people who have played the other games, where wait is always the last option on the menu, chances are you're going to waste your staff users' turns ''a lot''.

** There are two strange instances where ''both'' children for a pairing can inherit major blood: Ayra's children can inherit major Odo blood if their father is Holyn, and Sylvia's children can inherit major Blaggi blood if their father is Claude (which may or may not be incestuous; hints are dropped that Sylvia is Claude's long-lost sister but WordOfGod says she isn't. Ayra and Holyn are both nobles of the same kingdom, which is why they have the same Holy Blood, but Ayra's part of the main royal family and Holyn is of a lesser house so they're only distantly related and so this is probably less incestuous than a lot of real-life royal marriages). However, both subvert this: Sylvia's children are a daughter who is a Dancer (hence is unsuited for combat), and her son is a [[MagikarpPower Level 1 Priest]] obtained during Chapter 9. And while Ayra's children are both of the Swordfighter class, neither can actually wield the Balmung, even with major blood as Holy Weapons can't be sold thus locking the Balmung to Shanan. (Though there is a glitch that allows them to acquire it). If Briggid is paired with Lewyn or Claud, Faval will inherit his his mother's major Ulir blood while Patty inherits major Forseti or Blaggi blood, respectively.

** There are two strange instances where ''both'' children for a pairing can inherit major blood: Ayra's children can inherit major Odo blood if their father is Holyn, and Sylvia's children can inherit major Blaggi blood if their father is Claude (which may or may not be incestuous; hints are dropped that Sylvia is Claude's long-lost sister but WordOfGod says she isn't. Ayra and Holyn are both nobles of the same kingdom, which is why they have the same Holy Blood, but Ayra's part of the main royal family and Holyn is of a lesser house so they're only distantly related and so this is probably less incestuous than a lot of real-life royal marriages). However, both subvert this: Sylvia's children are a daughter who is a Dancer (hence is unsuited for combat), and her son is a [[MagikarpPower Level 1 Priest]] obtained during Chapter 9. And while Ayra's children are both of the Swordfighter class, neither can actually wield the Balmung, even with major blood as Holy Weapons can't be sold thus locking the Balmung to Shanan. (Though there is a glitch that allows them to acquire it.)

* DamnYouMuscleMemory: The priority of the "wait" button on the action menu is cranked way up, above pretty much everything but attacking, meaning that for people who have played the other games, where wait is always the last option on the menu, chances are you're going to waste your staff users' turns ''a lot''.

* BittersweetEnding: Sure, you [[spoiler:killed the vessel of a deadly dragon, ended the oppression of an empire and have had your leader crowned as a benevolent Emperor]]. But [[spoiler: no fewer than 2 holy weapons [[note]]Assuming Saias will eventually inherit the Valflame[[/note]] will be unable to be used for at least one generation in process, one of them probably longer.[[labelnote:*]]Neither Tordo nor Neir will have a living character with Major Holy Blood, but if Johan/Johalva [[KissingCousins was paired up with Lex's daughter]], Helswath could easily be back in action just one generation down the line.[[/labelnote]]]]
* BossBonanza: Many chapters have multiple bosses per section, but the final chapter of ''Genealogy'' takes the cake. The four sections have, in order, 3 bosses, 4 bosses, 2 bosses, and ''20 bosses'' (though one of them doesn't have to be defeated [[spoiler:and one of them is a BrainwashedAndCrazy member of your ''own'' army who can be rerecruited after beating a certain other boss in that section.]]

* IncestIsRelative: At least two examples that are canon. Arvis and Deirdre are half-siblings. Raquesis and Eldigan are half-siblings (and were very close to doing it in the Oosawa manga). Holyn can be matched with Arya, but they may be more distant than third cousins. Julia and Seliph (half-siblings is possible using glitches in the jealously system. Lana can be matched with Faval as can Lester with Patty and since their mothers are identical twins that makes them genetically half-siblings. Sylvia and Claude are implied to be full siblings who were separated when they were young (though WordOfGod says that they are cousins) and can be paired. Shannan can be matched with his cousin Larcei. Ares can be paired with Nanna and in their lover conversation in the final chapter, they even lampshade the fact that they are cousins as well as confirming that Raquesis was in love with Eldigan though Eldigan's feelings are not revealed.

** Sometimes requires a great deal of effort to avoid losing recruits, such as in [[FragileSpeedster Arya's]] case: you must avoid damaging her since you might inadvertently kill her (she has the fewest HP you have yet seen on any enemy unit as well as the lowest defense), she's unbelievably dangerous as she has the opportunity to one-shot literally everyone in your party, ''and'' you can't recruit her until you take the castle she's guarding, being physically in your way. It's necessary to lure her away from the castle so you can kill the guards and take it, then run up to her and talk to her, all while being very careful never to engage her lest she pull off one of her relatively common ten-hit combos or lest

* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Both averted and played straight. To say that the game borrows a lot of names from {{Norse mythology}} is like saying ''Thracia 776'' is mildly difficult and [[ShownTheirWork more than a few named-after items are spot-on]]. On the other hand, the official spellings for them are abominable even by {{Engrish}} standards. A weapon that is very obviously meant to be the [[Literature/TheSagaOfHervorAndHeidrek Tyrfing]], to provide the most egregious example, has been spelled as "Tailfang" and "Tyrhung". The [[FlipFlopOfGod Flip Flops Of God]] do not help.

** Made even worse in the [[spoiler: endings where the heirs to the thrones of other countries have died in battle. Without an heir, Grannvale will annex that country (example: if Shanan, Larcei, and Ulster die, Seliph will also rule over Issach). The countries in question allow this, since Seliph is Deidre's son (Verdane)/ Ethlin's nephew (New Thracia)/ Sigurd's son (Augustria)/ a good person (Silese and Issach). It's possible to kill every country's heir, making Seliph king of essentially the entire continent, ''just like the Empire''.]]

** [[spoiler:A more cynical take on Sigurd marrying Deirdre is the fact that Loptyr's descendants live in the Spirit Forest in order to stay hidden from the outside world. Since Deirdre was specifically needed for Manfroy's plans, Sigurd taking her away from the forest could count as this.]]

** To add further insult to injury, Sigurd is not even given a spot as a DLC character in Awakening, with his slot going to Eldigan, the Chapter 1 boss of Geneology.

** It also takes a look at what would happen to the followers and descendents--or people who are even suspected of being such--of the Dark Dragon. Namely, persecution, execution, and forced seclusion in the Spirit Forest or the harsh conditions of the Yied Desert.

* RagtagBunchOfMisfits/ArmyOfThievesAndWhores: See White and Gray vs Gray and Black Morality. ''Thracia'', as the fifth installment of over a dozen games, hits between Decontruction and UnbuiltTrope. The army consists of anyone who has a loose reason to fight against the Empire, some who are persuaded by someone in the army, or ''people Leif's army kidnapped''. An early indicator is [[TokenEvilTeammate Lifis]], the first thief to join the game. Thieves in ''FireEmblem'' games before and after ''Thracia'' lean towards LovableRogue. Lifis is a pirate who pillaged villages, tried to maniplate Safy into sleeping with him and joined because he would have been executed otherwise.

* StaticRoleExchangeableCharacter: ''Genealogy of the Holy War'' originated the marriage system that appears in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]''. The mother characters are fixed and their children look and act the same regardless of who the father is; only the gameplay skills are different. If the mother remains unmarried, a pair of substitutes appear instead--they have the same dialogue as the 'canonical' children, but different stats. However, the substitutes also have conversations and events unique to them (many of them about not being as good as the 'canon' children).

** To be fair, the main brother-sister couple in the game didn't know they were (half-)siblings. [[spoiler: She never found out either, and when he did, he was already past the DespairEventHorizon and didn't give a damn anymore.]]
** This is the only game that makes two of the potential couples cases of BrotherSisterIncest and KissingCousins at the same time, if you pair up a kid of Adean with one of her twin sister Briggid.
** A glitch in the RelationshipValues system allows the player to potentially pair up the main character of the second generation with [[spoiler:his MysteriousWaif half-sister. Said sister is the result of even further BrotherSisterIncest.]] This is actually a pretty popular pairing among the fans but it’s not otherwise possible, plot-wise.
* CavalryBetrayal: [[spoiler: Arvis's [[ThePlan plan]] in Chapter 5.]]

* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: If you manage to kill [[spoiler:Julius in chapter 10, he says "Playtime is over - I'm going home."]]
** Which is not that hard, since he doesn't have Nihil. It's possible to one-turn kill him with Larcei and 100* Brave sword. Here is the proof: http://youtu.be/OKCp-7at92s
* DevelopingDoomedCharacters: ''Genealogy'''s 1st generation, ''and how''.

* EightiesHair: The artstyle of this game's character portraits was angled rather strangely and in particular fluffed up the front parts of everyone's hair to absurd degrees, giving almost everyone this look. ''Thracia 776'' stopped doing this and any characters who returned from ''Genealogy'' were all redrawn with normal-looking hair.
** And sprites notwithstanding, there are a few characters who have actual mullets.

* RagtagBunchOfMisfits/ArmyOfThievesAndWhores: See White and Gray vs Gray and Black Morality. ''Thracia'', as the fifth installment of over a dozen games, hits between Decontruction and UnbuiltTrope. The army consists of anyone who has a loose reason to fight against the Empire, some who are persuaded by someone in the army, or ''people Leif's army kidnapped''. An early indicator is [[TokenEvilTeammate Lifis]], the first thief to join the game. Thieves in ''FireEmblem'' games before and after ''Thracia'' lean towards LovableRogue. Lifis is a pirate who pillaged villages and joined because he would have been executed otherwise.

** If you went with the Tailto / Levin pairing and passed Holsety down, Arthur will join with it ''halfway through the first chapter of second generation''. While he'll never quite be as powerful as Sety with Holsety, he can and will thoroughly annihilate any enemy for the first half of Gen 2, and continue nuking the opposition clean through the end of the game.
** It should be noted that Arthur has one major advantage over Sety - having a horse, in [[FanNickname Mounted Emblem]].

** TheHero: Ced/Sety

** Last but not least, is the [[BlowYouAway Forseti]], which is equipped by the EleventhHourRanger Ced/Sety. It gives the wielder an extra 20 in skill, and 20 in speed (a total of 14 thanks to its weight), alongside 20 MT with 30% critical rate and can be used 50 times. Ced/Sety equipped with the Forseti/Holsety can one round pretty much every single enemy in the remaining chapters with or without an M Up/Barrier or Holy Water boost, and can only be killed if you are REALLY unlucky against Physical Attacks.

* OfficialCouple: In ''Genealogy of the Holy War'', all pairings except Sigurd/Deirdre, Quan/Ethlyn [[spoiler: and Arvis/Deirdre]] were optional and customizable. However, Lewyn/Levin x Ferry was canonized in '''Thracia 776''' through the presence of Ced/Sety ''and'' Forseti in the game. [[spoiler: [[ShipSinking The marriage didn't end very happily though]], due to either personal difficulties or Lewyn/Levin having his memories and/or personality messed with upon being revived/possessed by Forseti]].

** [[http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=24830 Here is another fanmade one]] still ongoing.

** In the Oosawa manga, this applies to the three knights Sigurd starts the game with, as well as Holyn and Beowulf (who don't appear at all), probably due to mainly being fighter characters without too big of an impact on the storyline or particularly notable connections to other characters.

--> [[spoiler: These youths fought valiantly for their ideals, yet their unfulfilled dreams now lie scattered on the battlefield... [[WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife Was their any meaning in their efforts?]]]]

** Tracia had, at most, 87 dragon riders which were divided into 8 'battalions'. In real-life, 87 riders is barely enough to qualify as a whole Company.

** [[http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=24830 Here is another fanmade one]] still ongoing
* VengeanceFeelsEmpty:[[spoiler:Seliph feels this way after killing Emperor Arvis, who murdered the former's father]].

** For the characters that can be considered one, theres Finn, Dagdar, and Bryton. Finn actually has a good stats growth, and is a solid unit throughout the whole game, but he is put on a disadvantage for the late game indoor chapters thanks to dismounting,which means he can't use Lances, including his signature Brave Lance. Dagdar is a prepromote with bad growth, but good enough base stats to be used for almost the entire game. Both of them are essential to build up your resource through capturing, since they are basically tailor made for capturing. Bryton is a bit of a special case. His base stats and growth rate are not particularly good. To make up for it, he has a mounts outdoor, has awesome durability, and has the skill ''Wrath'' which allows him to consistently scores a critical hit during counterattacks. Bryton is pretty much the closest replacement to Finn, Dagda, and Eyvel during the Manster Prison Break.

** The [[CoolSword Blaggi Sword]](also a SwordOfPlotAdvancement of sorts) is a 15 MT weapon with Armor slaying capabilities and plenty of usage. It also gives the Prayer ability, and negates the damage halving ability of the Loptyr Sword. [[GameplayAndStorySegregation While it supposedly can be used by anyone with a Holy Blood]], only Leif, Nanna, Felgus, and Delmud can use the sword.
** The Holy Sword is a 17 MT weapon with 20% Critical rate, increases Magic by 10, grants the Prayer ability, is effective against Horseback units, and can attack consecutively. To acquire it, you need to use Olwen(a GlassCannon) to speak with Reinhardt in Chapter 22, and it can only be used by Olwen. Easilly a ThatOneSidequest thanks to how ridiculous the chapter are.
** Last but not least, is the [[BlowYouAway Forseti]], which is equipped by the EleventhHourRanger Ced/Sety. It gives the wielder an extra 20 in skills, and 20 in speed(a total of 14 thanks to its weight), alongside 20 MT with 30% critical rate and can be used 50 times. Ced/Sety equipped with the Forseti/Holsety can one round pretty much every single enemy in the remaining chapters with or without an M Up/Barrier or Holy Water boost, and can only be killed if you are REALLY unlucky against Physical Attacks.
* LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards: Played really straight, in a much bigger extent than the rest of the game in the series. Late game warriors can kill an enemy, and be a target for status staves. Late game Sages/High Priest kill an enemy, laugh at the status staves, and played a practical joke with the game as a whole. Its not an exaggeration to say that most of the late game chapters are pretty much a Staves vs Staves combat.
* MagikarpPower: Carrion is acquired right after Manster Prison Break, and comes underlevelled. However, he has solid bade stats and best growth out of the potential Cavaliers who is even more underlevelled than he is. It helped that he gets the fairly powerful Elite Sword that helped him in surviving, doubled his exp gains and has plenty of uses.
** Pretty much every character with reasonable Staff Rank and/or High Magic Stats can be this. Thracia takes LinearWarriorsQuadrasticWizards to the absurd length, so much that late game chapters can be utterly trivialized by using the right Staves at the right time. Anyone who promotes into a Sage count as one, thanks to the ridiculous promotion gains the class offered.

** Main Characters - On the white end of the scale you have the heroic and sheltered Prince Leif and the remnants of the Leonster Knights. Around the grey area you have you have Lifis who wreaked havoc on Thracian civilians, Pahn who's a thief, a good natured thief no less though. Not to mention there's a couple of [[PunchClockHero Punch Clock Heroes]] that join just because they're there at the right moment (Fergus, Shiva, Trewd, and Ralph). Also, there's the Bishop August who seems to have a morally ambiguous past and holds a cynical view towards the Manster nobles.
** Enemy Characters - Around the Grey end, there's a good amount of enemy bosses who fit here such as Largo (Dorias even commends Leif if he captures Largo instead of killing him), Rumay, Gomes (a bandit no less), and Reinhardt. Around or near the black area is Kempf (a man who even his fellow commanders view with disgust), Rayrick, and Veld.