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* CreatorBacklash: Pico does not look back fondly on his earliest attempts with game design, especially with the earliest versions of a planned remake of the ''Phantom Saga'' and refusing to discuss it further if people bring it up.



* OldShame: Aside from the CreatorBacklash mentioned in the classic All-Stars folder, Pico does not look back fondly on his earliest attempts with game design, especially with the earliest versions of a planned remake of the ''Phantom Saga'' and refusing to discuss it further if people bring it up.



* CreatorBacklash: In a [[https://twitter.com/PicoDigitalStu1/status/1633550248676040743 Twitter thread]] made by the fangame's co-owner, ''Pico Digital Studios'', he mentioned how he came to hate the concept of [=SoniKiller=] when he was made for Sonic.EXE All-Stars, seeing that the VillainDecay planned out for him is deserved overall, despite the monster having his fans. This mutual feeling between several developers of the games means that [[AdaptedOut he'll have little to no further major screen time in future instalments]], though ownership for him overall has since been transferred.

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In a [[https://twitter.com/PicoDigitalStu1/status/1633550248676040743 Twitter thread]] made by the fangame's co-owner, ''Pico Digital Studios'', he mentioned how he came to hate the concept of [=SoniKiller=] when he was made for Sonic.EXE All-Stars, seeing that the VillainDecay planned out for him is deserved overall, despite the monster having his fans. This mutual feeling between several developers of the games means that [[AdaptedOut he'll have little to no further major screen time in future instalments]], though ownership for him overall has since been transferred.



** Pyrom wasn't afraid to express his distaste with "Thirst for Toxic Revenge" after VS [=SoniKiller=] released.



* OldShame: Pyrom wasn't afraid to express his distaste with "Thirst for Toxic Revenge" after VS [=SoniKiller=] released.
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-->"Now, I'm going to be blunt here; I no longer really like [=SoniKiller=]'s concept. I seriously feel that the idea's lost its charm since its introduction roughly 3 years back compared to more recent Sonic.EXE entities such as Fatal Error or WebOriginal/Needlem0use. I understand that the complete monster might have his fans, but he's pretty much my source of OldShame ([[SarcasmMode thanks a lot to those comparing his appearance to]] [[VideoGame/SallyExeContinuedNightmareEyeOfThree Chaos Hunter]] /sar). There's no sympathy for that devil from me, no matter what. While his creation did serve as a building block for [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] fanfiction that me and a friend have been designing, I've deliberately given him villain decay to signify that he's lost the charm he once had. I personally feel he got that cruel and painful punishment coming to him."

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-->"Now, I'm going to be blunt here; I no longer really like [=SoniKiller=]'s concept. I seriously feel that the idea's lost its charm since its introduction roughly 3 years back compared to more recent Sonic.EXE entities such as Fatal Error or WebOriginal/Needlem0use.WebVideo/Needlem0use. I understand that the complete monster might have his fans, but he's pretty much my source of OldShame ([[SarcasmMode thanks a lot to those comparing his appearance to]] [[VideoGame/SallyExeContinuedNightmareEyeOfThree Chaos Hunter]] /sar). There's no sympathy for that devil from me, no matter what. While his creation did serve as a building block for [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] fanfiction that me and a friend have been designing, I've deliberately given him villain decay to signify that he's lost the charm he once had. I personally feel he got that cruel and painful punishment coming to him."
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** Brigandistian, the main coder for ''Genesis.exe'', had also created his own Sonic.exe game in the past, namely ''[[https://gamejolt.com/games/theafflictedritual/824397 Afflicted.ME: The Bloody Syndrome]]''.
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** Mystic Island, a key setpiece of this game, was originally planned to be a key focus of a cancelled project by Devy, ''Sonic: Dark Abyss''. The island was eventually picked up again for a new focus in the story of Reclassified's ''Genesis of Terror'' half.

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** Mystic Island, a key setpiece of this game, was originally planned to be a key focus of a cancelled project by Devy, ''Sonic: Dark Abyss''. The island was eventually picked up again for a new focus in the story of Reclassified's ''Genesis of Terror'' half.Reclassified.



** The Debut Demo has Launch Base Zone as Robotnik's first level, being set as a FetchQuest for robot parts. In the next update for ''Genesis of Terror'', this will be removed and replaced with [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog28Bit Crystal Egg Zone]], which will feature more puzzle-based progression between the two acts. The Sin Demo has been confirmed to have it playable via the Gallery, though.

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** The Debut Demo has Launch Base Zone as Robotnik's first level, being set as a FetchQuest for robot parts. In the next update for ''Genesis of Terror'', ''Genesis' Awakening'', this will was planned to be removed and replaced with [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog28Bit Crystal Egg Zone]], which will was to feature more puzzle-based progression between the two acts. The Sin Demo has been confirmed to have it playable via the Gallery, though.acts.

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** [=CrystalChaos=], the co-director for ''Reclassified'', had also been a part of the ''OTHERTALES'' fan works based on ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'', specifically leading an original take dubbed ''Deltarune: Broken Destiny''.

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** [=CrystalChaos=], the co-director current director for ''Reclassified'', had also been a part of the ''OTHERTALES'' fan works based on ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'', specifically leading an original take dubbed ''Deltarune: Broken Destiny''.Destiny''.
** E-200 Paragon, one of the major writers for ''Reclassified'', is also the lead writer for the upcoming ''[[VideoGame/SonicExeNightmareBeginning Nightmare]] [[VideoGame/SallyExeContinuedNightmareEyeOfThree Universe]] Rewrite''.

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* CreatorBacklash: During the development stages of Reclassified, Crystal and Gold weren't afraid to voice their distaste for ''Sally.exe: Discovery'' being treated as canon in the Reclassified universe, especially with it being seen as OldShame by Devy himself. Rain did justify this, though, considering it isn't actually mentioned at all in-game.

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During the development stages of Reclassified, Crystal and Gold weren't afraid to voice their distaste for ''Sally.exe: Discovery'' being treated as canon in the Reclassified universe, especially with it being seen as OldShame by Devy himself. Rain did justify this, though, considering it isn't actually mentioned at all in-game.in-game.
** After enough time, Rain himself got frustrated enough with the decisions being made solely by Crystal and Gold for the game (where it was being stuck as just "Sonic.exe but Sonic Origins"), to the point that he permanently left the development team. Pico himself followed suit soon after, leaving what's left of the project in their hands alone.


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* RoleEndingMisdemeanor: Rain willingly left the development of ''Sonic Reclassified'' after both Crystal and Gold refused to accept his criticism to the decisions being made on the project, meaning ''Delta Genesis'' and its sequels are now completely separate. Pico himself permanently stepped down from developing on the game soon afterwards, in turn marking the end for his game development history.
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** While the Sonic world is under an entirely different name in Reclassified, Mobians do exist, but they only reside on one area of Gaea, specifically [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogSpinball Mt. Mobius]].

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** While the Sonic world is under an entirely different name in Reclassified, Mobians do exist, but they only reside on one area of Gaea, Gaia, specifically [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogSpinball Mt. Mobius]].
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* OldShame: Pyrom wasn't afraid to express his distaste with "Thirst for Toxic Revenge" after VS [=SoniKiller=] released.

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* ApprovalOfGod: Both BEC and Pico, who had worked on [=SonicClone=]'s sprites, approved of a [[https://gamebanana.com/mods/460674 fan mod]] of ''Sonic Forever'' that implemented his non-EXE sprites into the game seamlessly. Pico even gave it some publicity via [=GameJolt=].

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* ApprovalOfGod: Both BEC and Pico, who had worked on [=SonicClone=]'s sprites, approved of a [[https://gamebanana.com/mods/460674 fan mod]] of ''Sonic Forever'' that implemented his non-EXE sprites into the game seamlessly. Pico even gave it some publicity via [=GameJolt=].[=GameJolt=] and this article's main page.
* DearNegativeReader: Primal was quick to put his foot down concerning certain people who want games out as quickly as possible, mainly after hearing about other developers being unduly rushed to complete their games, and made a [[https://gamejolt.com/p/so-i-heard-what-happened-and-honestly-i-am-disappointed-so-in-ca-xvwt7iuz post]] flat-out calling this malicious act out.
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* ApprovalOfGod: Both BEC and Pico, who had worked on [=SonicClone=]'s sprites, approved of a [[https://gamebanana.com/mods/460674 fan mod]] of ''Sonic Forever'' that implemented his non-EXE sprites into the game seamlessly. Pico even gave it some publicity via [=GameJolt=].
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* OldShame: Aside from the CreatorBacklash mentioned in the classic All-Stars folder, Pico does not look back fondly on his earliest attempts with game design, especially with the earliest versions of a planned remake of the ''Phantom Saga'' and refusing to discuss it further if people bring it up.
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** ''Project 16: Sonic.exe Genesis'' is to be made using ''"Genesis Sonic Worlds"'', a modified framework made by ''Sonic's Gaming Hub''. However, after he noticed one too many instances of people stealing things from his framework and implementing it into their own, he had to put his foot down, [[https://gamejolt.com/p/okay-guys-i-need-to-repeat-this-policy-about-the-engine-one-more-t-nednafxb personally addressing the issue on GameJolt]] to warn people against stealing further, lest they get into deep trouble for it.

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** ''Project 16: Sonic.''Sonic.exe Delta Genesis'' is to be made using ''"Genesis Sonic Worlds"'', a modified framework made by ''Sonic's Gaming Hub''. However, after he noticed one too many instances of people stealing things from his framework and implementing it into their own, he had to put his foot down, [[https://gamejolt.com/p/okay-guys-i-need-to-repeat-this-policy-about-the-engine-one-more-t-nednafxb personally addressing the issue on GameJolt]] to warn people against stealing further, lest they get into deep trouble for it.
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* LineToGod: [[https://twitter.com/PicoDigitalStu1/status/1643971430386921473?s=20 An ongoing [=QnA=] on Twitter]] is present to answer any questions related to [=SonicClone=] as ''Refined Edition'' continues development.

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* LineToGod: [[https://twitter.com/PicoDigitalStu1/status/1643971430386921473?s=20 An ongoing [=QnA=] on Twitter]] is present to answer any questions related to [=SonicClone=] as ''Refined Edition'' continues development. This eventually got moved to [[https://www.tumblr.com/pico-digital-studios/723761848682528768/sonicclone-qna-sonicexe-all-stars-refined?source=share Tumblr]] following the website's rebranding to "X".
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** During development of Reclassified, there were plans to include a "[[PlayerVersusPlayer VS. Mode]]" between two players, in the vein of ''VideoGame/SonicTheFighters'' and ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''. This was cut to help save time on the game.
** One fan-submitted letterbox background, based on the infamous "[[https://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_1:_WTF_LAME Sonic 1: WTF LAME]]" ROM hack, originally had a prod at Reclassified being styled after ''Sonic Origins'' instead of ''Sonic Jam'' ("WHY ORIGINS INSTEAD OF JAM?"), a callback to what the game was planned to become at one point. Since these plans have scrapped, the message on the border has since been changed to "[[TakeThat SOME MESS THE SONIC.EXE COMMUNITY TURNED INTO, EH?]]" on request from the original border designer.
** During the development of the upcoming Sin Demo, there were plans to include an alternate soundtrack for the majority of the game's content, pretty much in the vein of alternating soundtracks from the likes of ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehogCD'' and ''VideoGame/Sonic3DFlickiesIsland'', though due to a mix of lacking ideas for the alternate soundtrack and the risk of overloading the file size too much, this was ultimately scrapped, and the best picks between both soundtracks were compiled together.
** The upcoming planned Extra Story for ''Reclassified: Genesis of Terror'' was originally going to go under the name "Project Syn". As ideas changed, it was eventually decided that this would be renamed to "Project 16", referring to the SEGA Genesis's 16-bit hardware.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** On the [[https://gamejolt.com/games/archivedtrilogy/724083 official archive page]] for ''Sonic.EXE All-Stars 2'', a post goes into more detail about what could have been for the game.
** For ''The Lost Game'', the Special Stage for obtaining the Chaos Emeralds would've been all interconnected, using all six of base-game VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog1's Special Stages alongside an original section.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Originally, ''Restarted'' was planned to go under the name ''"Sonic.EXE All-Stars Plus"'', and would've simply been a remake of the original game. However, plans had since changed, with the planned project eventually becoming ''Sonic.EXE All-Stars Restarted'' and being separate to the classic story.
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** ''Project 16: Sonic.exe Genesis'' is to be made using ''"Genesis Sonic Worlds"'', a modified framework made by ''Sonic's Gaming Hub''. However, after he noticed one too many instances of people stealing things from his framework and implementing it into their own, he had to put his foot down, [[https://gamejolt.com/p/okay-guys-i-need-to-repeat-this-policy-about-the-engine-one-more-t-nednafxb personally addressing the issue on GameJolt]] to warn people against stealing further, lest they get into deep trouble for it.
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** Mystic Island, a key setpiece of this game, was originally planned to be a key focus of a cancelled project by Devy, ''Sonic: Dark Abyss''. The island was eventually picked up again for a new focus in Reclassified's story.

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** Mystic Island, a key setpiece of this game, was originally planned to be a key focus of a cancelled project by Devy, ''Sonic: Dark Abyss''. The island was eventually picked up again for a new focus in the story of Reclassified's story.''Genesis of Terror'' half.



** The Debut Demo has Launch Base Zone as Robotnik's first level, being set as a FetchQuest for robot parts. In the next update, this will be removed and replaced with [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog28Bit Crystal Egg Zone]], which will feature more puzzle-based progression between the two acts. The Sin Demo has been confirmed to have it playable via the Gallery, though.
* OfficialFanSubmittedContent: For the upcoming update to ''Reclassified'', letterbox backgrounds for Classic Mode were made by a few fans to be used in the full game.

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** The Debut Demo has Launch Base Zone as Robotnik's first level, being set as a FetchQuest for robot parts. In the next update, update for ''Genesis of Terror'', this will be removed and replaced with [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog28Bit Crystal Egg Zone]], which will feature more puzzle-based progression between the two acts. The Sin Demo has been confirmed to have it playable via the Gallery, though.
* OfficialFanSubmittedContent: For the upcoming update updates to ''Reclassified'', letterbox backgrounds for Classic Mode were made by a few fans to be used in the full game.



** The upcoming planned Extra Story for ''Reclassified'' was originally going to go under the name "Project Syn". As ideas changed, it was eventually decided that this would be renamed to "Project 16", referring to the SEGA Genesis's 16-bit hardware.

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** The upcoming planned Extra Story for ''Reclassified'' ''Reclassified: Genesis of Terror'' was originally going to go under the name "Project Syn". As ideas changed, it was eventually decided that this would be renamed to "Project 16", referring to the SEGA Genesis's 16-bit hardware.
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* ReferencedBy: As part of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo2Vf1sesmQ prologue]] of ''WebAnimation/EXESagaReanimated'', gameplay footage of Reclassified (particularly the Emerald Palace boss fight) was shown off as the narrator lists off particular works leading up to the present. WordOfGod mentioned that it was included to allow more people to acknowledge the game's existence.

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* ReferencedBy: As part of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo2Vf1sesmQ prologue]] of ''WebAnimation/EXESagaReanimated'', ''WebAnimation/TheEXESagaReanimated'', gameplay footage of Reclassified (particularly the Emerald Palace boss fight) was shown off as the narrator lists off particular works leading up to the present. WordOfGod mentioned that it was included to allow more people to acknowledge the game's existence.
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* ReferencedBy: As part of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo2Vf1sesmQ prologue]] of ''WebAnimation/EXESagaReanimated'', gameplay footage of Reclassified (particularly the Emerald Palace boss fight) was shown off as the narrator lists off particular works leading up to the present.

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* ReferencedBy: As part of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo2Vf1sesmQ prologue]] of ''WebAnimation/EXESagaReanimated'', gameplay footage of Reclassified (particularly the Emerald Palace boss fight) was shown off as the narrator lists off particular works leading up to the present. WordOfGod mentioned that it was included to allow more people to acknowledge the game's existence.
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* ReferencedBy: As part of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo2Vf1sesmQ prologue]] of ''WebAnimation/EXESagaReanimated'', gameplay footage of Reclassified (particularly the Emerald Palace boss fight) was shown off as the narrator lists off particular works leading up to the present.
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* CreatorBacklash: During the development stages of Reclassified, Crystal and Gold weren't afraid to voice their distaste for ''Sally.exe: Discovery'' being treated as canon in the Reclassified universe, especially with it being seen as OldShame by Devy himself. Rain did justify this, though, considering it isn't actually mentioned at all in-game.
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* CreatorsFavorite: Between the letterbox backgrounds, [=CrystalChaos=] especially took a liking to the [[VideoGame/PacMan Ms. Pac-Man]] one, taking a liking to her a lot more than her own husband.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: For the Sin Demo onwards, [=CrystalChaos=] removed the realistic fire and fire-crackling ambience to swap it out with the Sonic 3 fire sprites.
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** The Debut Demo has Launch Base Zone as Robotnik's first level, being set as a FetchQuest for robot parts. In the next update, this will be removed and replaced with [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog28Bit Crystal Egg Zone]], which will feature more puzzle-based progression between the two acts.

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** The Debut Demo has Launch Base Zone as Robotnik's first level, being set as a FetchQuest for robot parts. In the next update, this will be removed and replaced with [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog28Bit Crystal Egg Zone]], which will feature more puzzle-based progression between the two acts. The Sin Demo has been confirmed to have it playable via the Gallery, though.
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* CreatorsPest: In terms of levels, [=CrystalChaos=] had found Burned Hill Zone to be the most difficult level to port over from the Debut Demo due to the amount of bugs needed to be patched out.
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** [=CrystalChaos=], the co-director for ''Reclassified'', had also been a part of the ''OTHERTALES'' fan works based on ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'', specifically leading an original take dubbed ''Deltarune: Broken Destiny''.
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** The whole Main Menu was originally going to be directly based off of ''Sonic Origins'', having everything placed in one menu with shots of the islands included. This was eventually replaced with a menu taking cues from the ''Pocket Edition'' fangame and ''Sonic: Brother Trouble''.
*** This Main Menu was also going to have different variations of Angel Island in the four seasons (spring, summer, autumn/fall and winter) based on the time of day on the player's PC, with an option available to configure it to match up with the hemisphere the player lives in.

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