History TheScrappy / TalesSeries

** Also, a lot of players were quite unimpressed with the BigBad, [[spoiler: because it turns out to be Duke.]] This is because his villainy comes out of nowhere and his motivations are poorly explained, which is ''especially'' bad in a series famed for its sympathetic treatment of villains.

* ''VideoGame/TalesOfLegendia'''s Shirley Fennes. Fans just hate her for her voice, her DistressedDamsel tendencies, and that one scene where fans take it like [[{{Yandere}} "Senel, either you love me, or I'll nuke your world."]] ([[{{Misblamed}} Which isn't entirely accurate...]]) [[BaseBreaker There are quite a few who like her though.]] [[AmericansHateTingle The hate is much stronger in America]], as she's a simple BaseBreaker in Japan.

** Nanaly is also a TierInducedScrappy in her original game, because her arrows are utterly useless and hard to hit with compared to fast melee and hard-hitting magic, and without abusing a glitch in the PS2 version she only has one hi-ougi whereas other characters have four or five each. It's very rare to see her used after Harold, the most powerful spellcaster in the game, joins the party. Odd, as in terms of characterization she's an EnsembleDarkhorse, and if you take account her other appearances like in ''Tales of the World'' or ''Tales of Versus'', she's an absolute beast when the game engine from her home series did not bog her down.

* The most hated character in Symphonia is easily Emil from Dawn of the New World... and he's the ''main character''. He is more of a case of AmericansHateTingle (he still manages to rank very high in Japan [[http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/taleschannel/ch_ranking_4th/result.php popularity]] [[http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/taleschannel/ch_ranking_5th/result/ polls]]) and the fact that his game came out right after Tales of Vesperia which introduced the {{badass}} of all {{badass}} Yuri Lowell. In other words, Emil had a tough act to follow after what Yuri demonstrated in his game and didn't meet the expectations of the American fanbase.
** Marta doesn't fare a whole lot better, due to coming off as overly fangirl-y and a bit whiny.
** Colette was also ''infamously'' bashed back in the day for constantly apologizing, her occasional DamselInDistress tendencies, her "[[DeusExMachina tripping plot power]]" being used constantly to resolve plot problems, and for the game forcing Lloyd/Colette on the player a ''little'' too much (especially for those who ship Lloyd/Sheena). The hate has certainly died down, and more people are voicing a liking to her, but the hate shall never be forgotten.
* In ''VideoGame/TalesOfGraces'', Cheria has been hated for A) showing signs of being a PuritySue B) [[DamselScrappy the only moment she get a spotlight in the game is when she is kidnapped]] C) [[DieForOurShip getting in the way for Asbel/Sophie and Asbel/Richard shippers]] D) her annoying {{tsundere}} tendencies.
** As with Colette, though, Cheria actually ended up as the ''fifteenth'' highest-scoring character in the latest ''Tales'' poll.

** Luke has a fair amount of hate, whether for being an arrogant JerkAss in the first part of the game who ends up [[spoiler:getting manipulated into destroying a town and starting a war]], or for being {{Wangst}}y in the last part of the game, after the TimeSkip.

* Milla and Jude from ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' get this at times for different, albeit related, reasons. Milla gets this for the massive amount of CharacterShilling that happens for her in game, both as a result of her role in the plot and occasionally for no explicable reason whatsoever (Wyverns bend their knees to her, she can tolerate pain explicitly stated to be unbearable, almost every NPC is in awe of her, etc.). This gets dialed UpToEleven when [[spoiler: she temporarily kicks the bucket and the party reacts like it's the death of the Messiah, going beyond even very serious grief and into a full-blown existential crisis.]] Jude gets the Scrappy treatment at times...for shilling as hard as possible for Milla, though less so in the late game, where he starts to figure things out for himself.
** Jude and Leia become [[TierInducedScrappy Tier-Induced Scrappies]] in the second game, due to being heavily nerfed from the first game.

*** [[http://solardata.tumblr.com/post/54678076490/kumagawa-scarletflare-scionoflorelei This]] Tumblr post goes to great length to analyze and defend Luke, however.

* Milla and Jude from ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' get this at times for different, albeit related, reasons. Milla gets this for the massive amount of CharacterShilling that happens for her in game, both as a result of her role in the plot and occasionally for no explicable reason whatsoever (Wyverns bend their knees to her, she can tolerate pain explicitly stated to be unbearable, almost every NPC is in awe of her, etc.). This gets dialled UpToEleven when [[spoiler: she temporarily kicks the bucket and the party reacts like it's the death of the Messiah, going beyond even very serious grief and into a full-blown existential crisis.]] Not helped by her [[AmericansHateTingle English VA's poor performance]], especially when it came to [[DullSurprise supposedly emotional]] [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry moments]]. Jude gets the Scrappy treatment at times...for shilling as hard as possible for Milla.
** Jude less so, as the late game proves that his CharacterShilling was NOT a good thing, and he grows out of it.

* Milla and Jude from ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' get this at times for different, albeit related, reasons. Milla gets this for the massive amount of CharacterShilling that happens for her in game, both as a result of her role in the plot and occasionally for no explicable reason whatsoever. (Wyverns bend knee to her, she can tolerate pain explicitly stated to be unbearable, almost every NPC is in awe of her etc.) This gets dialed UpToEleven when [[spoiler: she temporarily kicks the bucket and the party reacts like it's the death of the Messiah, going beyond even very serious grief and into a full-blown existential crisis.]] Not helped by her [[AmericansHateTingle English VA's poor performance]], especially when it came to [[DullSurprise supposedly emotional]] [[ThatMakesMeFeelAngry moments]]. Jude gets the Scrappy treatment at times...for shilling as hard as possible for Milla.

* The most hated character in Symphonia is easily Emil from Dawn of the New World... and he's the ''main character''. To be fair, Emil's more of a case of AmericansHateTingle (he still manages to rank very high in Japan [[http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/taleschannel/ch_ranking_4th/result.php popularity]] [[http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/taleschannel/ch_ranking_5th/result/ polls]]) and the fact that his game came out right after Tales of Vesperia which introduced the {{badass}} of all {{badass}} Yuri Lowell. In other words, Emil had a tough act to follow after what Yuri demonstrated in his game and didn't meet the expectations of the American fanbase.

* In ''VideoGame/TalesOfGraces'', Cheria has been hated for A) [[{{PuritySue}} showing signs of being a PuritySue]] B) [[DamselScrappy the only moment she get a spotlight in the game is when she is kidnapped]] C) [[DieForOurShip getting in the way for Asbel/Sophie and Asbel/Richard shippers]] D) her annoying {{tsundere}} tendencies.

* The most hated character in Symphonia is easily Emil from Dawn of the New World... and he's the ''main character''. To be fair, Emil's more of a case of AmericansHateTingle (he still manages to rank very high in Japan [[http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/taleschannel/ch_ranking_4th/result.php popularity]] [[http://www.bandainamcogames.co.jp/cs/list/taleschannel/ch_ranking_5th/result/ polls]]) and the fact that his game came out right after Tales of Vesperia which introduced the {{badass}} of all {{badass}} Tales protagonists. In other words, Emil had a tough act to follow after what Yuri demonstrated in his game and didn't meet the expectations of the American fanbase.

** Nanaly is also a TierInducedScrappy in her original game, because her arrows are utterly useless and hard to hit with compared to fast melee and hard-hitting magic, and without abusing a glitch in the PS2 version she only has one hi-ougi whereas other characters have four or five each. It's very rare to see her used after Harold, the most powerful spellcaster in the game, joins the party. Odd, as in terms of characterization she's an EnsembleDarkhorse.

* ''VideoGame/TalesOfLegendia'''s Shirley Fennes. Fans just hate her for her voice, her DistressedDamsel tendencies, and that one scene where fans take it like [[{{Yandere}} "Senel, either you love me, or I'll nuke your world."]] ([[{{Misblamed}} Which isn't entirely accurate...]]) [[BaseBreaker There are quite a few who like her though.]]

** Colette was also ''infamously'' bashed back in the day for constantly apologizing, her occasional DamselInDistress tendencies, and for the game forcing Lloyd/Colette on the player a ''little'' too much (especially for those who ship Lloyd/Sheena). The hate has certainly died down, and more people are voicing a liking to her, but the hate shall never be forgotten.

* Milla and Jude from ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' get this at times for different, albeit related, reasons. Milla gets this for the massive amount of CharacterShilling that happens for her in game, both as a result of her role in the plot and occasionally for no explicable reason whatsoever. (Wyverns bend knee to her, she can tolerate pain explicitly stated to be unbearable, almost every NPC is in awe of her etc.) This gets dialed UpToEleven when [[spoiler: she temporarily kicks the bucket and the party reacts like it's the death of the Messiah, going beyond even very serious grief and into a full-blown existential crisis.]] Not helped by her [[AmericansHateTingle English VA's poor performance]], especially when it came to [[DullSurprise supposedly emotional]] [[ThisMakesMeFeelAngry moments]]. Jude gets the Scrappy treatment at times...for shilling as hard as possible for Milla.

* Milla and Jude from ''VideoGame/TalesOfXillia'' get this at times for different, albeit related, reasons. Milla gets this for the massive amount of CharacterShilling that happens for her in game, both as a result of her role in the plot and occasionally for no explicable reason whatsoever. (Wyverns bend knee to her, she can tolerate pain explicitly stated to be unbearable, almost every NPC is in awe of her etc.) This gets dialed UpToEleven when [[spoiler: she temporarily kicks the bucket and the party reacts like it's the death of the Messiah, going beyond even very serious grief and into a full-blown existential crisis.]] Jude gets the Scrappy treatment at times...for shilling as hard as possible for Milla.

** Nanaly is also a TierInducedScrappy in her original game, because her arrows are utterly useless and hard to hit with compared to fast melee and hard-hitting magic. It's very rare to see her used after Harold, the most powerful spellcaster in the game, joins the party. Odd, as in terms of characterization she's an EnsembleDarkhorse.

* It's very hard to find fans of Reala, from ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2''. Her status as a SpotlightStealingSquad is undeniable (Though like with Shirley's example, there's [[{{Misblamed}} a bit more to it than that]]), and she's also accused of other sins ([[PuritySue Sue]] tendencies, bad AI, [[NoodlePeople creepy]] [[EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette design]] overall blandness). It really says something when the characters chosen to represent the game alongside [[KidHero Kyle]] in ''Tales of VS.'' were [[EnsembleDarkhorse Nanaly and Harold]] instead of her (since she's pretty much the co-protagonist). Although she does make an appearance of a bonus boss in VideoGame/TalesOfGraces.

* It's very hard to find fans of Reala, from ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2''. Her status as a SpotlightStealingSquad is undeniable (Though like with Shirley's example, there's [[{{Misblamed}} a bit more to it than that]]), and she's also accused of other sins ([[PuritySue Sue]] tendencies, bad AI, overall blandness). It really says something when the characters chosen to represent the game alongside [[KidHero Kyle]] in ''Tales of VS.'' were [[EnsembleDarkhorse Nanaly and Harold]] instead of her (since she's pretty much the co-protagonist). Although she does make an appearance of a bonus boss in VideoGame/TalesOfGraces.

* It's very hard to find fans of Reala, from ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2''. Her status as a SpotlightStealingSquad is undeniable (Though like with Shirley's example, there's [[Misblamed a bit more to it than that]] ), and she's also accused of other sins ([[PuritySue Sue]] tendencies, bad AI, overall blandness). It really says something when the characters chosen to represent the game alongside [[KidHero Kyle]] in ''Tales of VS.'' were [[EnsembleDarkhorse Nanaly and Harold]] instead of her (since she's pretty much the co-protagonist). Although she does make an appearance of a bonus boss in VideoGame/TalesOfGraces.

* It's very hard to find fans of Reala, from ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2''. Her status as a SpotlightStealingSquad is undeniable (Though like with Shirley's example, there's [[Misblamed a bit more to it than that]]), and she's also accused of other sins ([[PuritySue Sue]] tendencies, bad AI, overall blandness). It really says something when the characters chosen to represent the game alongside [[KidHero Kyle]] in ''Tales of VS.'' were [[EnsembleDarkhorse Nanaly and Harold]] instead of her (since she's pretty much the co-protagonist). Although she does make an appearance of a bonus boss in VideoGame/TalesOfGraces.

* It's very hard to find fans of Reala, from ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2''. Her status as a SpotlightStealingSquad is undeniable, and she's also accused of other sins ([[PuritySue Sue]] tendencies, bad AI, overall blandness). It really says something when the characters chosen to represent the game alongside [[KidHero Kyle]] in ''Tales of VS.'' were [[EnsembleDarkhorse Nanaly and Harold]] instead of her (since she's pretty much the co-protagonist). Although she does make an appearance of a bonus boss in VideoGame/TalesOfGraces.

** Nanaly is also a ''TierEnducedScrappy'' in her original game, because her arrows are utterly useless and hard to hit with compared to fast melee and hard-hitting magic. It's very rare to see her used after Harold, the most powerful spellcaster in the game, joins the party. Odd, as in terms of characterization she's an EnsembleDarkhorse.

* It's very hard to find fans of Reala, from ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny 2''. Her status as a SpotlightStealingSquad is undeniable, and she's also accused of other sins ([[PuritySue Sue]] tendencies, bad AI, overall blandness). It really says something when the characters chosen to represent the game alongside [[KidHero Kyle]] in ''Tales of VS.'' were [[EnsembleDarkhorse Nanaly and Harold]] instead of her (since she's pretty much the co-protagonist). Although she does make an appearance of a bonus boss in VideoGame/TalesOfGraces.

** Colette was also ''infamously'' bashed back in the day for constantly apologizing, her occasional DamselInDistress tendencies, and for the game forcing Lloyd/Colette on the player a ''little'' too much (especially for those who ship Lloyd/Sheena). The hate has certainly died down recently, and more people are voicing a liking to her, but the hate shall never be forgotten.

** Colette, Reala, Shirley......[[DesignatedProtagonistSyndrome seeing a pattern here?]]