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* [[spoiler: Noah's]] death. Particularly how anticlimactic, unsatisfying and irreverent it was. It was like [[spoiler: Kreuger]] was putting down a stray dog. No remorse, no WorthyOpponent style acknowledgement... nothing. Perhaps even worse is the fact that Faith never got to say goodbye to him, either. He was already gone before she got in the room, and indeed, he probably didn't even know she was there to save him before he died. All she could do once she got there was beg him to wake up and then cry next to his corpse. In most media, the dying character at least has time to say a few encouraging words to their loved ones and maybe get a few in return before they move on. [[PlayerPunch No such luck here...]] You didn't deserve to go out like that, [[spoiler: Noah]].
** It really felt like the writers just needed to fulfil the [[spoiler: MentorOccupationalHazard]] trope to have a complete story.
*** More like a case of SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome. You don't get any final words, flashback, or drama scene. A pull of the trigger and you're snuffed out. Keeping this in mind helps the scene really, really work better and goes to highlight how harsh the setting is.
* Faith's breakdown after [[spoiler: Noah's death and finding out stopping Reflection means ascending the Shard]].
* [[spoiler: Isabel/Caitlyn angrily chewing out Faith for apparently abandoning her during the November Riots.]] Despite the overall attitude most likely arising from Kruger's brainwashing, it's hard to listen to [[spoiler: her]] on the verge of tears.

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* [[spoiler: Noah's]] Noah's death. Particularly how anticlimactic, unsatisfying and irreverent it was. It was like [[spoiler: Kreuger]] Kreuger was putting down a stray dog. No remorse, no WorthyOpponent style acknowledgement... nothing. Perhaps even worse is the fact that Faith never got to say goodbye to him, either. He was already gone before she got in the room, and indeed, he probably didn't even know she was there to save him before he died. All she could do once she got there was beg him to wake up and then cry next to his corpse. In most media, the dying character at least has time to say a few encouraging words to their loved ones and maybe get a few in return before they move on. [[PlayerPunch No such luck here...]] You didn't deserve to go out like that, [[spoiler: Noah]].
Noah.
** It really felt like the writers just needed to fulfil the [[spoiler: MentorOccupationalHazard]] MentorOccupationalHazard trope to have a complete story.
*** More like a case of SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome. You also don't get any final words, flashback, or drama scene. A pull of the trigger and you're snuffed out. Keeping this in mind helps the scene really, really work better and goes to highlight how harsh the setting is.
* Faith's breakdown after [[spoiler: Noah's death and finding out stopping Reflection means ascending the Shard]].
Shard.
* [[spoiler: Isabel/Caitlyn angrily chewing out Faith for apparently abandoning her during the November Riots.]] Riots. Despite the overall attitude most likely arising from Kruger's brainwashing, it's hard to listen to [[spoiler: her]] on the verge of tears.



*** Oh, but the November Riots weren't done with her yet. Faith shot a friendly [=KrugerSec=] out of fear during the Riots. Even worse if this was Gabriel Kruger's son, which is entirely possible, since it would mean '''she''' was the reason for his FreudianExcuse and indirectly responsible for the whole plot of the game.

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*** Oh, but the November Riots weren't done with her yet. Faith shot a friendly [=KrugerSec=] out of fear during the Riots. Even worse if this was Gabriel Kruger's son, which is entirely possible, since it would mean '''she''' was the reason for his FreudianExcuse and indirectly responsible for the whole plot of the game.game.
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*** More like a case of RealityEnsues. You don't get any final words, flashback, or drama scene. A pull of the trigger and you're snuffed out. Keeping this in mind helps the scene really, really work better and goes to highlight how harsh the setting is.

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*** More like a case of RealityEnsues.SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome. You don't get any final words, flashback, or drama scene. A pull of the trigger and you're snuffed out. Keeping this in mind helps the scene really, really work better and goes to highlight how harsh the setting is.
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*** More like a case of RealityEnsues. You don't get any final words, flashback, or drama scene. A pull of the trigger and you're snuffed out. Keeping this in mind helps the scene really, really work better and goes to highlight how harsh the setting is.
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*** Oh, but the November Riots aren't done with her yet. Faith shot a friendly [=KrugerSec=] out of fear during the Riots. Even worse if this was Gabriel Kruger's son, which is entirely possible, since it would mean '''she's''' the reason for his FreudianExcuse and indirectly responsible for the whole plot of the game.

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*** Oh, but the November Riots aren't weren't done with her yet. Faith shot a friendly [=KrugerSec=] out of fear during the Riots. Even worse if this was Gabriel Kruger's son, which is entirely possible, since it would mean '''she's''' '''she''' was the reason for his FreudianExcuse and indirectly responsible for the whole plot of the game.
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* The fact that Faith had to watch her parents get beaten up and shot right in front of her. This would be bad enough if it happened to an adult, [[HarmfulToMinors but she was ''a child'' when this happened.]] What kind of effect must that have had on her psyche?

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* The fact that Faith had to watch her parents get beaten up and shot right in front of her. This would be bad enough if it happened to an adult, [[HarmfulToMinors but she was ''a child'' was]] ''[[HarmfulToMinors a child]]'' [[HarmfulToMinors when this happened.]] What kind of effect must that have had on her psyche?
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* [[spoiler: Isabel/Caitlyn angrily chewing out Faith for apparently abandoning her during the November Riots.]] Despite the overall attitude most likely arising from Kruger's brainwashing, it's hard to listen to [[spoiler: her]] on the verge of tears.

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* [[spoiler: Isabel/Caitlyn angrily chewing out Faith for apparently abandoning her during the November Riots.]] Despite the overall attitude most likely arising from Kruger's brainwashing, it's hard to listen to [[spoiler: her]] on the verge of tears.tears.
* The fact that Faith had to watch her parents get beaten up and shot right in front of her. This would be bad enough if it happened to an adult, [[HarmfulToMinors but she was ''a child'' when this happened.]] What kind of effect must that have had on her psyche?
** Add in having to abandon her sister, due to said sister collapsing from exposure to Tear Gas. What's trauma without a steaming pile of guilt on top?
*** Oh, but the November Riots aren't done with her yet. Faith shot a friendly [=KrugerSec=] out of fear during the Riots. Even worse if this was Gabriel Kruger's son, which is entirely possible, since it would mean '''she's''' the reason for his FreudianExcuse and indirectly responsible for the whole plot of the game.
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** It really felt like the writers just needed to fulfil the [[spoiler: MentorOccupationalHazard]] trope to have a complete story.
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* [[spoiler: Noah's]] death. Particularly how unclimactic, unsatisfying and irreverent it was. It was like [[spoiler: Kreuger]] was putting down a stray dog. No remorse, no WorthyOpponent style acknowledgement... nothing. Perhaps even worse is the fact that Faith never got to say goodbye to him, either. He was already before she got in the room, and indeed, he probably didn't even know she was even there to save him before he died. All she could do once she got there was beg him to wake up and then cry next to his corpse afterwards. In most media, the dieing character at least has time to say a few encouraging words to their loved ones and maybe get a few in return before they move on. No such luck here... You didn't deserve to go out like that, [[spoiler: Noah]].
* Faith's breakdown Dogen after [[spoiler: Noah's death and finding out stopping Reflection means ascending the Shard]].

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* [[spoiler: Noah's]] death. Particularly how unclimactic, anticlimactic, unsatisfying and irreverent it was. It was like [[spoiler: Kreuger]] was putting down a stray dog. No remorse, no WorthyOpponent style acknowledgement... nothing. Perhaps even worse is the fact that Faith never got to say goodbye to him, either. He was already gone before she got in the room, and indeed, he probably didn't even know she was even there to save him before he died. All she could do once she got there was beg him to wake up and then cry next to his corpse afterwards. corpse. In most media, the dieing dying character at least has time to say a few encouraging words to their loved ones and maybe get a few in return before they move on. [[PlayerPunch No such luck here... here...]] You didn't deserve to go out like that, [[spoiler: Noah]].
* Faith's breakdown Dogen after [[spoiler: Noah's death and finding out stopping Reflection means ascending the Shard]].
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* [[spoiler: Noah's]] death. Particularly how unclimactic, unsatisfying and irreverent it was. It was like [[spoiler: Kreuger]] was putting down a stray dog. No remorse, no WorthyOpponent style acknowledgement... nothing. Perhaps even worse is the fact that Faith never got to say goodbye to him, either. He was already before she got in the room, and indeed, he probably didn't even know she was even there to save him before he died. All she could do once she got there was beg him to wake up and then cry next to his corpse afterwards. In most media, the dieing character at least has time to say a few encouraging words to their loved ones and maybe get a few in return before they move on. No such luck here... You didn't deserve to go out like that, [[spoiler: Noah]].

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* [[spoiler: Noah's]] death. Particularly how unclimactic, unsatisfying and irreverent it was. It was like [[spoiler: Kreuger]] was putting down a stray dog. No remorse, no WorthyOpponent style acknowledgement... nothing. Perhaps even worse is the fact that Faith never got to say goodbye to him, either. He was already before she got in the room, and indeed, he probably didn't even know she was even there to save him before he died. All she could do once she got there was beg him to wake up and then cry next to his corpse afterwards. In most media, the dieing character at least has time to say a few encouraging words to their loved ones and maybe get a few in return before they move on. No such luck here... You didn't deserve to go out like that, [[spoiler: Noah]].Noah]].
* Faith's breakdown Dogen after [[spoiler: Noah's death and finding out stopping Reflection means ascending the Shard]].
* [[spoiler: Isabel/Caitlyn angrily chewing out Faith for apparently abandoning her during the November Riots.]] Despite the overall attitude most likely arising from Kruger's brainwashing, it's hard to listen to [[spoiler: her]] on the verge of tears.
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* [[Spoiler: Noah's]] death. Particularly how unclimactic, unsatisfying and irreverent it was. It was like [[Spoiler: Kreuger]] was putting down a stray dog. No remorse, no WorthyOpponent style acknowledgement... nothing. Perhaps even worse is the fact that Faith never got to say goodbye to him, either. He was already before she got in the room, and indeed, he probably didn't even know she was even there to save him before he died. All she could do once she got there was beg him to wake up and then cry next to his corpse afterwards. In most media, the dieing character at least has time to say a few encouraging words to their loved ones and maybe get a few in return before they move on. No such luck here... You didn't deserve to go out like that, [[spoiler: Noah]].

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* [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: Noah's]] death. Particularly how unclimactic, unsatisfying and irreverent it was. It was like [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: Kreuger]] was putting down a stray dog. No remorse, no WorthyOpponent style acknowledgement... nothing. Perhaps even worse is the fact that Faith never got to say goodbye to him, either. He was already before she got in the room, and indeed, he probably didn't even know she was even there to save him before he died. All she could do once she got there was beg him to wake up and then cry next to his corpse afterwards. In most media, the dieing character at least has time to say a few encouraging words to their loved ones and maybe get a few in return before they move on. No such luck here... You didn't deserve to go out like that, [[spoiler: Noah]].
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* [[Spoiler:Noah's]] death. Particularly how unclimactic, unsatisfying and irreverent it was. It was like [[Spoiler:Kreuger]] was putting down a stray dog. No remorse, no WorthyOpponent style acknowledgement... nothing. Perhaps even worse is the fact that Faith never got to say goodbye to him, either. He was already before she got in the room, and indeed, he probably didn't even know she was even there to save him before he died. All she could do once she got there was beg him to wake up and then cry next to his corpse afterwards. In most media, the dieing character at least has time to say a few encouraging words to their loved ones and maybe get a few in return before they move on. No such luck here... You didn't deserve to go out like that, [[spoiler:Noah]].

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* [[Spoiler:Noah's]] [[Spoiler: Noah's]] death. Particularly how unclimactic, unsatisfying and irreverent it was. It was like [[Spoiler:Kreuger]] [[Spoiler: Kreuger]] was putting down a stray dog. No remorse, no WorthyOpponent style acknowledgement... nothing. Perhaps even worse is the fact that Faith never got to say goodbye to him, either. He was already before she got in the room, and indeed, he probably didn't even know she was even there to save him before he died. All she could do once she got there was beg him to wake up and then cry next to his corpse afterwards. In most media, the dieing character at least has time to say a few encouraging words to their loved ones and maybe get a few in return before they move on. No such luck here... You didn't deserve to go out like that, [[spoiler:Noah]].[[spoiler: Noah]].
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* [[Spoiler:Noah's]] death. Particularly how unclimactic, unsatisfying and irreverent it was. It was like [[Spoiler:Kreuger]] was putting down a stray dog. No remorse, no WorthyOpponent style acknowledgement... nothing. Perhaps even worse is the fact that Faith never got to say goodbye to him, either. He was already before she got in the room, and indeed, he probably didn't even know she was even there to save him before he died. All she could do once she got there was beg him to wake up and then cry next to his corpse afterwards. In most media, the dieing character at least has time to say a few encouraging words to their loved ones and maybe get a few in return before they move on. No such luck here... You didn't deserve to go out like that, [[spoiler:Noah]].

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