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it's not played for humor; it's about Kagami realizing that Felix is like her in that respect


* HypocriticalHumor: Kagami calls Félix "utterly incompetent at social relations", which she was guilty of not too long ago.

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* DeathGlare: Nathalie gives one to Gabriel as he fumes over their failure to heal his Cataclysm burns, knowing full-well that Gabriel brought his looming death upon himself.

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* DeathGlare: Nathalie gives one to Gabriel as he fumes over their failure to heal his Cataclysm burns, knowing full-well that Gabriel brought his looming death upon himself. She gives him another one when he wants to send Adrien to London to keep him away from Marinette.



* Facepalm: Kagami for a brief second after Félix admits to stalking her.



* SmugSmiler: Gabriel with Adrien's reaction after announcing he's sending him to London at the end of the school year, knowing Adrien can't disobey him.

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* SmugSmiler: Gabriel with Adrien's reaction after announcing he's sending him to London at the end of the school year, knowing Adrien can't disobey him.him and one to Nathalie when he tells her that he can't stop her from doing so.

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* EnemyMine: Cat Noir actually suggests this to Ladybug to just let Matagi Gozen take out Argos and save Kagami like she wants, meanwhile they'll have Argos at their mercy to punish him for screwing them over last season and take the Peacock Miraculous back. However Ladybug rejects the idea since working with someone under Monarch's influence in any way is a bad idea. And unknown to either, Tomoe is in league with Monarch and wants to take all three of their Miraculous anyway.
* EvilCannotComprehendGood: Gabriel thinks Marinette doesn’t really love Adrien and is just “under the spell of the world Gabriel’s created”, being starstruck by Adrien’s fame and good looks. The truth is that Marinette just loves Adrien for who he is.

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* EnemyMine: Cat Noir actually suggests this to Ladybug to just that they let Matagi Gozen take out Argos and save Kagami like she wants, meanwhile so they'll have Argos at their mercy to punish him for screwing them over last season and take the Peacock Miraculous back. However However, Ladybug rejects the idea since working with someone under Monarch's influence in any way is a bad idea. And unknown to either, Tomoe is in league with Monarch and wants to take all three of their Miraculous anyway.
* EvilCannotComprehendGood: Gabriel thinks Marinette doesn’t really love Adrien and is just “under "under the spell of the world Gabriel’s created”, Gabriel's created", being starstruck by Adrien’s Adrien's fame and good looks. The truth is that Marinette just loves Adrien for who he is.



* HypocriticalHumor: Kagami calls Félix "utterly incompetent at social relations", which she was guilty of not too long ago.



-->'''Kagami:''' You are utterly incompetent at social relations.

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-->'''Kagami:''' [[HypocriticalHumor You are utterly incompetent at social relations.]]



* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: Gabriel and Marinette's discussion takes a brief detour into their ideas on what fashion is; Marinette (the idealist) sees Fashion as a way to help others express themselves while Gabriel (the Cynic) sees the fashion industry as a machine that manufactures fads while giving "the illusion of choice", with him having a [[AGodAmI Godlike]] power to shape and mold everyone through his industry.

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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: Gabriel and Marinette's discussion takes a brief detour into their ideas on what fashion is; Marinette (the idealist) Idealist) sees Fashion fashion as a way to help others express themselves while Gabriel (the Cynic) sees the fashion industry as a machine that manufactures fads while giving "the illusion of choice", with him having a [[AGodAmI Godlike]] power to shape and mold everyone through his industry.



* VillainHasAPoint: Gabriel points out to Tomoe that it was her daughter who cost them a chance to acquire Ladybu and Cat Noir's Miraculouses.

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* VillainHasAPoint: Gabriel points out to Tomoe that it was her daughter who cost them a chance to acquire Ladybu Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculouses.
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* HalfwayPlotSwitch: The first half of the episode is about Marinette confronting Gabriel over her relationship with Adrien. The remainder of the episode shifts focus to Kagami and Félix.
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* BodyHorror: Gabriel's Cataclysm wound has spread from his arm to all the way to his neck, chest, and half his stomach. At this rate, it won't be long until it reaches his kneecaps...
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* {{Death Glare}}: Nathalie gives one to Gabriel as he fumes over their failure to heal his Cataclysm burns, knowing full-well that Gabriel brought his looming death upon himself.

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* {{Death Glare}}: DeathGlare: Nathalie gives one to Gabriel as he fumes over their failure to heal his Cataclysm burns, knowing full-well that Gabriel brought his looming death upon himself.
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* GoToYourRoom: Gabriel orders Adrien to go to his room while he talks to Marinette alone in the kitchen.
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* {{Death Glare}}: Nathalie gives one to Gabriel as he fumes over their failure to heal his Cataclysm burns, knowing full-well that Gabriel brought his looming death upon himself.

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* EvilCannotComprehendGood: Gabriel thinks Marinette doesn’t really love Adrien and is just “under the spell of the world Gabriel’s created”, being starstruck by Adrien’s fame and good looks. The truth is that Marinette just loves Adrien for who he is.



* EvilCannotComprehendGood: Gabriel thinks Marinette doesn’t really love Adrien and is just starstruck by his fame and good looks, while the truth is that Marinette just loves Adrien for who he is.



* SadisticChoice: Gabriel offers to help Marinette achieve her dreams as long as she gives up on being with Adrien, but warns that she won't have either if she rejects his offer. Marinette refuses to accept that as the only choice.

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* SadisticChoice: Gabriel offers to help Marinette achieve her dreams as long as dream of becoming a famous fashion designer if she gives up on being with Adrien, but warns her that she won't have either if she rejects his offer. Marinette refuses to accept that as the only choice.his offer and resolves to fight for her relationship with Adrien.



* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids: Gabriel rebuts Marinette's claim that fashion is about making people happy, explaining how he sells products by making people chase an unattainable ideal.

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* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids: Gabriel rebuts Marinette's claim that fashion is about making people happy, explaining how he sells products by making people chase an unattainable ideal.ideal of perfection.
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* EvilCannotComprehendGood: Gabriel thinks Marinette doesn’t really love Adrien and is just starstruck by his fame and good looks, while the truth is that Marinette just loves Adrien for who he is.
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Gabriel gives a brutal breakdown to Marinette by criticizing her lackluster aspirations as a fashion designer while declaring that she's unfit to be with someone as significant as his son. Marinette, after declaring her love to Adrien, leaves wile returning the favor by telling Gabriel that his pancakes suck for being made from an obsolete recipe and claiming that no one accepts his outdated beliefs anymore.

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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Gabriel gives a brutal breakdown to Marinette by criticizing her lackluster aspirations as a fashion designer while declaring that she's unfit to be with someone as significant as his son. Marinette, after declaring her love to Adrien, leaves wile while returning the favor by telling Gabriel that his pancakes suck for being made from an obsolete recipe and claiming that no one accepts his outdated beliefs anymore.
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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: Gabriel and Marinette's discussion takes a brief detour into their ideas on what fashion is; Marinette (the idealist) sees Fashion as a way to help others express themselves while Gabriel (the Cynic) sees the fashion industry as a machine that manufactures fads while giving "the illusion of choice", with him having a [[AGodAmI Godlike]] power to shape and mold everyone through his industry.


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* TwoRoadsBeforeYou: Gabriel boils down his offer to Marinette using pancakes as an analogy; eat the "pancake" he gives her with any of the toppings he provides for her (him using his connections to make her a fashion-designer without Adrien in her life), or "refuse the pancake" and have nothing left but "childish dreams" in its place (lose Adrien anyway and [[ICouldaBeenAContender give up a bright future]] served to her on a plate). Marinette sees it for the hollow offer that it is and refuses to be intimidated.
--> '''Marinette:''' You know what the problem is with your pancakes? Way too much flour, not enough butter. You're using an old, completely outdated recipe. No one likes them like that anymore. That's the good thing about being a baker's daughter. I don't even need to try them to know that they're tasteless.
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Marinette's reaction after leaving the Argeste estate after giving Gabriel a [[ReasonYouSuckSpeech]] about his pancakes.

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Marinette's reaction after leaving the Argeste estate after giving Gabriel a [[ReasonYouSuckSpeech]] [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech "Reason You Suck" Speech]] about his pancakes.
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* TheStinger: Félix meets Kagami in private and gives her her family's ring, telling her that can decide her own fate as the two begin a relationship together.

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* TheStinger: Félix meets Kagami in private and gives her back her family's ring, ring after replacing it with a replica, telling her that can decide her own fate as the two begin a relationship together.
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* NiceJobBreakingItVillian: Intentional or not, Matagi Gozen nearly hitting Kagami with an attack makes her question her mother.

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* NiceJobBreakingItVillian: NiceJobFixingItVillain: Intentional or not, Matagi Gozen nearly hitting Kagami with an attack makes her question her mother.

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Marinette's reaction after leaving the Argeste estate after giving Gabriel a [[ReasonYouSuckSpeech]] about his pancakes.



* NiceJobBreakingItVillian: Intentional or not, Matagi Gozen nearly hitting Kagami with an attack makes her question her mother.



* OneNoteCook: It’s revealed that the only thing Gabriel can actually cook are the pancakes he’s been serving.
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Gabriel gives a brutal breakdown to Marinette by criticizing her lackluster aspirations as a fashion designer while declaring that she's unfit to be with someone as significant as his son. Marinette returns the favor by saying his pancakes suck and claiming that no one accepts his outdated beliefs anymore.

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* OneNoteCook: It’s revealed that the only thing Gabriel can actually cook are the pancakes he’s been serving.
serving, Marinette even telling him that the recipe he is using is outdated.
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Gabriel gives a brutal breakdown to Marinette by criticizing her lackluster aspirations as a fashion designer while declaring that she's unfit to be with someone as significant as his son. Marinette returns Marinette, after declaring her love to Adrien, leaves wile returning the favor by saying telling Gabriel that his pancakes suck for being made from an obsolete recipe and claiming that no one accepts his outdated beliefs anymore.


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* TheStinger: Félix meets Kagami in private and gives her her family's ring, telling her that can decide her own fate as the two begin a relationship together.
* VillainHasAPoint: Gabriel points out to Tomoe that it was her daughter who cost them a chance to acquire Ladybu and Cat Noir's Miraculouses.

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** Similar to "Adoration", Gabriel compels Adrien to go to his room, and despite desperately wanting to disobey, Adrien is physically incapable of leaving his room until Marinette barges in a few minutes later.



* JerkassHasAPoint: Gabriel does describe the fashion industry at least somewhat accurately during his rant to Marinette. It still doesn't work as a metaphor for human relations as he intended, but he's not a famous fashion designer for no reason.
* NeedleInAStackOfNeedles: Argos snaps his fan into several pieces and sticks a feather to a passing pigeon so his scent trail will be all over the place and impossible to track.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Gabriel does describe the fashion industry at least somewhat accurately during his rant to Marinette. It still doesn't work as a metaphor for human relations as he intended, but he's not a famous fashion designer for no reason.
* NeedleInAStackOfNeedles: Argos snaps his fan into several pieces and sticks a feather to a passing pigeon so his scent trail will be all over the place and impossible to track. He similarly leaves behind personal items when not transformed to achieve the same effect.



* SmugSmiler: Gabriel with Adrien's reaction after announcing he's sending him to London at the end of the school year.

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* SmugSmiler: Gabriel with Adrien's reaction after announcing he's sending him to London at the end of the school year.year, knowing Adrien can't disobey him.
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* SmugSmiler: Gabriel with Adrien's reaction after announcing he's sending him to London at the end of the school year.
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* IronicEcho: Gabriel prefaces his speech to Marinette by calling her merely “a baker’s daughter”. At the end of the rant, she points out that he doesn’t prepare his pancakes properly, something she would know as “a baker’s daughter”.


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* OneNoteCook: It’s revealed that the only thing Gabriel can actually cook are the pancakes he’s been serving.

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* BaitTheDog: Gabriel praises Marinette while having dinner with Adrien at the end of the episode, seemingly having changed his mind about their relationship, only to reveal he'll be sending Adrien to London to keep them apart.



* ScarilyCompetentTracker: Matagi's War Dorses[[labelnote:note]]Dog Horses[[/labelnote]] are able to find any person of interest. They even create a colored scent trail that leads them to their target(s). However, she ultimately falls victim to the same loophole that Ladybug and Cat Noir exploited against Safari; she can't track the civilian identities of her targets. Argos also takes advantage of the fact that she is specifically tracking his fan by breaking it and spreading the pieces to create false trails.

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* ScarilyCompetentTracker: Matagi's War Dorses[[labelnote:note]]Dog Horses[[/labelnote]] are able to find any person of interest. They even create a colored scent trail that leads them to their target(s). However, she ultimately falls victim to the same loophole that Ladybug and Cat Noir exploited against Safari; the trail goes cold if they detransform. While she can't does have Félix's spyglass to track the him in civilian identities of her targets. form, he gets around that by creating false trails, both as Argos also takes advantage of the fact that she is specifically tracking his fan by breaking it his fan apart and spreading the pieces to create false trails.scattering it, and as Félix by dropping small personal items (cufflinks, a pocket watch).


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* WhamLine: At the end of the episode, Gabriel seemingly approves of Adrien's relationship with Marinette, with a twist:
-->'''Gabriel:''' She really is an incredible young lady. Such passion, such determination. Enjoy your time with her, my son. These are precious moments, creating memories you will cherish deeply... ''when you're in London next year.''

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--> '''Marinette:''' I love you, Adrien! I won't abandon you ''ever!'' I'll always be there for you.

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--> '''Marinette:''' -->'''Marinette:''' I love you, Adrien! I won't abandon you ''ever!'' I'll always be there for you.



--> '''Kagami:''' You are utterly incompetent at social relations.

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--> '''Kagami:''' -->'''Kagami:''' You are utterly incompetent at social relations.



--> '''Félix:''' I feel like you and I… we're the same! We have so much in common and yet we're so different. I've never met someone like you.
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--> '''Kagami:''' I'm nobody's prisoner. Félix is not your enemy, He's like me! He doesn't know how to express himself...Everyone is wrong about him! Including me.
--> ''(Kagami smiles at Félix as he returns the smile, touched that she came to his defense. This turn of events surprises and confuses Ladybug and Cat Noir.)''

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--> '''Félix:''' -->'''Félix:''' I feel like you and I… we're the same! We have so much in common and yet we're so different. I've never met someone like you.
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'''Kagami:''' I'm nobody's prisoner. Félix is not your enemy, He's like me! He doesn't know how to express himself...Everyone is wrong about him! Including me.
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me.\\
''(Kagami smiles at Félix as he returns the smile, touched that she came to his defense. This turn of events surprises and confuses Ladybug and Cat Noir.)''


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* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids: Gabriel rebuts Marinette's claim that fashion is about making people happy, explaining how he sells products by making people chase an unattainable ideal.

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* CallBack: Gabriel brings up his nephew's [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS04E25RiskShadowMothsFinalAttackPart1 spy monocle]] from when he was snooping as usual. And Matagi Gozen uses it to track Félix in his civilian form.

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* CallBack: CallBack:
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Gabriel brings up his nephew's [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS04E25RiskShadowMothsFinalAttackPart1 spy monocle]] from when he was snooping as usual. And Matagi Gozen uses it to track Félix in his civilian form.form.
** Gabriel also brings up Marinette's [[Recap/MiraculousLadybugS01E05MrPigeon contest winning hat design]] from back in Season 1.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Gabriel does describe the fashion industry at least somewhat accurately during his rant to Marinette. It still doesn't work as a metaphor for human relations as he intended, but he's not a famous fashion designer for no reason.
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* DramaticIrony: Ladybug and Monarch finally have a face-to-face solo showdown, and it's in their civilian identities, completely unaware they're talking to their arch-enemy, arguing over Adrian and the fashion industry.

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* AnguishedDeclarationOfLove: Before being kicked out of the Agreste Mansion by a disapproving Gabriel, Marinette runs up to Adrien's room and proudly declares that she'll always love him no matter what.

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* AnguishedDeclarationOfLove: Before being kicked out of the Agreste Mansion by a disapproving Gabriel, Marinette runs up to Adrien's room and proudly declares that she'll always love him no matter what.what; how she'll never abandon him and will always be there for him.
--> '''Marinette:''' I love you, Adrien! I won't abandon you ''ever!'' I'll always be there for you.
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* RightForTheWrongReasons: Cat Noir suggests just cooperating with Matagi Gozen to let her save Kagami since all of them see Argos as an enemy, but Ladybug rejects the idea thinking that cooperating with someone under Monarch's influence in any way could be dangerous. Unknown to Ladybug Matagi Gozen is working with Monarch willingly and is mostly using this an attempt to capture all three of their Miraculouses under the pretense of wanting to "save her daughter" meaning she almost certainly would have betrayed them afterwards.

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* RightForTheWrongReasons: Cat Noir suggests just cooperating with Matagi Gozen to let her save Kagami since all of them see Argos as an enemy, but Ladybug rejects the idea idea, thinking that cooperating with someone under Monarch's influence in any way could be dangerous. Unknown to Ladybug Ladybug, Matagi Gozen is working with Monarch willingly and is mostly using this an attempt to capture all three of their Miraculouses under the pretense of wanting to "save save her daughter" daughter, meaning she almost certainly would have betrayed them afterwards.
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* AndIMustScream: [[ImpliedTrope Implied]]. When Gabriel wants to talk to Marinette, he orders Adrien to go to his room. When Adrien is in his room, he is seen wanting to go back down but can't, as if some force is stopping him from doing so. Given the heavy implication that Adrien is in fact a sentimonster, it appears that Gabriel is abusing this power to keep Adrien in his room and not disobey him against his will, while Adrien is trying his hardest to resist. This is supported by the fact there is a shot of Gabriel's hand with his wedding ring on while giving the order to Adrien, said ring being where Adrien's amok is heavily implied to be in.
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* AndIMustScream: [[ImpliedTrope Implied]]. When Gabriel wants to talk to Marinette, he orders Adrien to go to his room. When Adrien is in his room, he is seen wanting to go back down but can't, as if some force is stopping him from doing so. Given the heavy implication that Adrien is in fact a sentimonster, it appears that Gabriel is abusing this fact to keep Adrien in his room and not disobey him against his will, while Adrien is trying his hardest to resist.

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* AndIMustScream: [[ImpliedTrope Implied]]. When Gabriel wants to talk to Marinette, he orders Adrien to go to his room. When Adrien is in his room, he is seen wanting to go back down but can't, as if some force is stopping him from doing so. Given the heavy implication that Adrien is in fact a sentimonster, it appears that Gabriel is abusing this fact power to keep Adrien in his room and not disobey him against his will, while Adrien is trying his hardest to resist.resist. This is supported by the fact there is a shot of Gabriel's hand with his wedding ring on while giving the order to Adrien, said ring being where Adrien's amok is heavily implied to be in.
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* AndIMustScream: [[ImpliedTrope Implied]]. When Gabriel wants to talk to Marinette, he orders Adrien to go to his room. When Adrien is in his room, he is seen wanting to go back down but can't, as if some force is stopping him from doing so. Given the heavy implication that Adrien is in fact a sentimonster, it appears that Gabriel is abusing this fact to keep Adrien in his room and not disobey him against his will, while Adrien is trying his hardest to resist.
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Someone who does not speak onscreen because they cannot speak at all."


* TheSpeechless: After Kagami defends Félix, Ladybug and Cat Noir became speechless for a few seconds as they both don't know how to react with what just happened.

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