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* AnAesop:
** Sharing is hard, but it's important to learn.
** Treat your teachers with respect.
** The Carly-Spencer subplot has one. Spencer claims that to be an artist, you have to be spontaneous and creative, rather than just following instructions from a class on how to draw in a rigid manner, such as drawing merely straight lines and shapes.
** Sharing is hard, but it's important to learn.
** Treat your teachers with respect.
** The Carly-Spencer subplot has one. Spencer claims that to be an artist, you have to be spontaneous and creative, rather than just following instructions from a class on how to draw in a rigid manner, such as drawing merely straight lines and shapes.
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Sam and Freddie are forced to share the same locker after they both win a contest, and they clash over each other's ideas over it.
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Sam and Freddie are forced to share the same locker after they both win a contest, and they clash over each other's ideas over for it.
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** The Carly-Spencer subplot has one. Spencer claims that to be an artist, you have to be spontaneous and creative, rather than following instructions from class on how to draw in a rigid manner such as drawing merely straight lines and shapes.
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** The Carly-Spencer subplot has one. Spencer claims that to be an artist, you have to be spontaneous and creative, rather than just following instructions from a class on how to draw in a rigid manner manner, such as drawing merely straight lines and shapes.
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* EasilyForgiven: Carly is quick to forgive Spencer for embarrassing her at the community center and he only wanted what was best done.
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* EasilyForgiven: Carly is quick to forgive Spencer for embarrassing her at the community center and because he only wanted what was best done.
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** Carly really TookALevelInJerkass in this episode by both denouncing Spencer's artistic tutoring and also screaming that he's not a good artist at all in front of her former art teacher. This causes the two to be banned from the community center.
** In addition, Carly's approach to art is very machine-like and robotic since she is only interested in drawing a rabbit to outshine Sam and Freddie's ridicule of her poor drawing, unlike Spencer's whose art is more exaggerated and wild. She dismisses Spencer's tutoring that she must first develop a passion for art, and even gets hostile at Spencer for trying to make her draw something other than a rabbit.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Despite her treatment of Spencer, Carly was right to call him out for teaching her more than what she requested, given that she only wanted to learn to draw a bunny properly to get back at Sam and Freddie for making fun of her art.
* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly still remains an untalented artist at the end with nobody to teach her how to draw. To make this even more karmic, Carly only wanted to learn how to draw to get back at Sam and Freddie.
** In addition, Carly's approach to art is very machine-like and robotic since she is only interested in drawing a rabbit to outshine Sam and Freddie's ridicule of her poor drawing, unlike Spencer's whose art is more exaggerated and wild. She dismisses Spencer's tutoring that she must first develop a passion for art, and even gets hostile at Spencer for trying to make her draw something other than a rabbit.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Despite her treatment of Spencer, Carly was right to call him out for teaching her more than what she requested, given that she only wanted to learn to draw a bunny properly to get back at Sam and Freddie for making fun of her art.
* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly still remains an untalented artist at the end with nobody to teach her how to draw. To make this even more karmic, Carly only wanted to learn how to draw to get back at Sam and Freddie.
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** Carly really TookALevelInJerkass in this episode by both denouncing Spencer's artistic tutoring and also screaming in front of her former art teacher that he's not a good artist at all in front of her former art teacher.all. This causes the two to be banned from the community center.
** In addition, Carly's approach to art isvery machine-like and practically robotic since she is only interested in drawing a rabbit to outshine prove Sam and Freddie's ridicule of her poor drawing, art wrong, unlike Spencer's whose art is more exaggerated and wild. She dismisses Spencer's tutoring that she must first develop a passion for art, and even gets hostile at Spencer her brother for trying to make her draw something other than a rabbit.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Despite her treatment of Spencer, Carly was right to call him out for teaching her more than what she requested, given that she only wanted to learn to draw a bunnyproperly to get back at Sam and Freddie for making fun of her art.
properly.
* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carlystill remains an untalented artist at the end with nobody to teach her how to draw. To make this even more karmic, Carly only wanted to learn how to draw to get back at Sam and Freddie.
** In addition, Carly's approach to art is
* JerkassHasAPoint: Despite her treatment of Spencer, Carly was right to call him out for teaching her more than what she requested, given that she only wanted to learn to draw a bunny
* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly
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* PersonaNonGrata: Spencer messing with Carly's art class causes them both to be banned from the community center. They even took their pictures and thumbprints.
* ShouldntWeBeInSchoolRightNow: Carly is never seen in school for the rest of the episode after Sam and Freddie win the locker. Lampshaded when Freddie says "She overslept this morning" before Principal Franklin announces the winner. Justified in that Spencer kept Carly up all night trying to make her draw spontaneous and random things at random times.
* ShouldntWeBeInSchoolRightNow: Carly is never seen in school for the rest of the episode after Sam and Freddie win the locker. Lampshaded when Freddie says "She overslept this morning" before Principal Franklin announces the winner. Justified in that Spencer kept Carly up all night trying to make her draw spontaneous and random things at random times.
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* PersonaNonGrata: Spencer messing with Carly's art class causes them both to be banned from the community center. They The center even took their pictures and thumbprints.
* ShouldntWeBeInSchoolRightNow: Carly is never seen in school for the rest of the episode after Sam and Freddie win the locker. Lampshaded when Freddiesays says, "She overslept this morning" before Principal Franklin announces the winner. Justified in that Spencer kept Carly up all night trying to make her draw spontaneous and random things at random times.
* ShouldntWeBeInSchoolRightNow: Carly is never seen in school for the rest of the episode after Sam and Freddie win the locker. Lampshaded when Freddie
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* TakeOurWordForIt: We never see the first bunny Carly drew, but we do get a few points on it.
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* TakeOurWordForIt: We never see the first bunny Carly drew, but we do get a few points words on it.
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* YankTheDogsChain: Freddie wins a competition for the giant locker. He proceeds to do a victory dance of sorts, insults Sam... and then it's revealed that Sam won the competition as well. [[FromBadToWorse To add insult to injury]], at the very end of the episode Sam's mom (who just had laser eye surgery) crashes her car into the school and demolishes the locker in one fell swoop.
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* YankTheDogsChain: Freddie wins a competition for the giant locker. He proceeds to do a victory dance of sorts, insults Sam... and then it's revealed that Sam won the competition as well. [[FromBadToWorse To add insult to injury]], at the very end of the episode episode, Sam's mom (who just had laser eye surgery) crashes her car into the school and demolishes the locker in one fell swoop.
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* TerribleArtist: Carly draws a bunny very poorly and crudely, and is mocked by Sam and Freddie for it. The first bunny she drew before that was even worse -- having slipper feet, bullet hole eyes, and was carrying a hose.
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* LoopholeAbuse: Gibby performs this to Mr. Howard as he points out the rules in the student handbook, stating that no rule says he has to wear a shirt.
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* LoopholeAbuse: Gibby performs this to Mr. Howard as Howard. As he points out the rules in the student handbook, stating the dress code says what ''kind'' of shirts he can't wear, but there isn't actually a rule that no rule says he has to wear a shirt.
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* EasilyForgiven: Carly is quick to forgive Spencer for embarrassing her at the community center and he only wanted what was best done.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Despite her treatment of Spencer, Carly was right to call him out for teaching her more than what she requested, given that she only wanted to learn to draw a bunny properly to get back at Sam and Freddie for making fun of her art.
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* LoopholeAbuse: Gibby performs this to Mr. Howard as he points out the rules in the student handbook, stating that he doesn’t have to wear a shirt.
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* LoopholeAbuse: Gibby performs this to Mr. Howard as he points out the rules in the student handbook, stating that no rule says he doesn’t have has to wear a shirt.
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** The Carly-Spencer subplot has one. The art teacher claims that to be an artist, you have to be spontaneous and creative, rather than following instructions from class on how to draw in a rigid manner such as drawing merely straight lines and shapes.
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** The Carly-Spencer subplot has one. The art teacher Spencer claims that to be an artist, you have to be spontaneous and creative, rather than following instructions from class on how to draw in a rigid manner such as drawing merely straight lines and shapes.
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** Carly really TookALevelInJerkass in this episode by both denouncing Spencer's artistic tutoring and also screaming that he's not a good artist at all in front of her former art teacher.
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** Carly really TookALevelInJerkass in this episode by both denouncing Spencer's artistic tutoring and also screaming that he's not a good artist at all in front of her former art teacher. This causes the two to be banned from the community center.
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* DelayedReaction: Freddie negotiates with Sam about getting her half of the locker as Sam mentions that her mom is driving a car to fetch her just ''after having an eye surgery''. Freddie still goes on his negotiation until Sam's statement sinks in.
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* DelayedReaction: Freddie negotiates with Sam about getting her half of the locker as Sam mentions that her mom is driving a car to fetch her just ''after having an eye surgery''. Freddie still goes on his negotiation until Sam's statement sinks in.
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* DelayedReaction: Freddie negotiates with Sam about getting her half of the locker as Sam mentions that her mom is driving a car to fetch her just ''after having an eye surgery''. Freddie still goes on his negotiation until Sam's statement sinks in.
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* NoEnding: Carly still doesn't learn how to draw well at the end, as she hostilely turned away Spencer and the community art teacher gave up trying to simply give bland and minimal instructions in doing art, which is what Carly wanted. But as stated above, it's karma for Carly given how badly she mistreated Spencer.
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* RelationshipSabotage: Attempted only. Carly tries to prevent Spencer and the art teacher from making up and kissing but doesn't succeed.
* ShouldntWeBeInSchoolRightNow: Carly is never seen in school for the rest of the episode after Sam and Freddie win the locker. Lampshaded when Sam says "She overslept this morning" before Principal Franklin announces the winner. Justified in that Spencer kept Carly up all night trying to make her draw spontaneous and random things at random times.
* ShouldntWeBeInSchoolRightNow: Carly is never seen in school for the rest of the episode after Sam and Freddie win the locker. Lampshaded when Sam says "She overslept this morning" before Principal Franklin announces the winner. Justified in that Spencer kept Carly up all night trying to make her draw spontaneous and random things at random times.
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* TakeOurWordForIt: We never see the first bunny Carly drew, but we do get a few points on it.
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* TakeOurWordForIt: We never see the first bunny Carly drew, but we do get a few points on it.it.
* YankTheDogsChain: Freddie wins a competition for the giant locker. He proceeds to do a victory dance of sorts, insults Sam... and then it's revealed that Sam won the competition as well. [[FromBadToWorse To add insult to injury]], at the very end of the episode Sam's mom (who just had laser eye surgery) crashes her car into the school and demolishes the locker in one fell swoop.
* YankTheDogsChain: Freddie wins a competition for the giant locker. He proceeds to do a victory dance of sorts, insults Sam... and then it's revealed that Sam won the competition as well. [[FromBadToWorse To add insult to injury]], at the very end of the episode Sam's mom (who just had laser eye surgery) crashes her car into the school and demolishes the locker in one fell swoop.
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** In addition, Carly's approach to art is very machine-like and robotic since she is only interested in drawing a rabbit to outshine Sam and Freddie's ridicule of her poor drawing. She dismisses Spencer's tutoring that she must first develop a passion for art, and even gets hostile at Spencer for trying to make her draw something other than a rabbit.
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** In addition, Carly's approach to art is very machine-like and robotic since she is only interested in drawing a rabbit to outshine Sam and Freddie's ridicule of her poor drawing.drawing, unlike Spencer's whose art is more exaggerated and wild. She dismisses Spencer's tutoring that she must first develop a passion for art, and even gets hostile at Spencer for trying to make her draw something other than a rabbit.
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* PersonaNonGrata: Spencer messing with Carly's art class causes them both to be banned from the community center. They even took their pictures and thumbprints.
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* EpicFail: The humongous jar of fat cakes contains 2,718 Fat Cakes, a lot of which are visible. Gibby guesses 5. [[LampshadeHanging Principal Franklin says he's calling Gibby's parents to have him tested]].
* JarOfJellybeansContest: The titular locker is won with a contest featuring a giant jar of Fat Cakes. Freddie guesses accurately using math, while Sam guesses accurately because she knows her Fat Cakes.
* JarOfJellybeansContest: The titular locker is won with a contest featuring a giant jar of Fat Cakes. Freddie guesses accurately using math, while Sam guesses accurately because she knows her Fat Cakes.
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* JerkassBall: Carly really TookALevelInJerkass in this episode by both denouncing Spencer's artistic tutoring and also screaming that he's not a good artist at all in front of her former art teacher.
* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly still remains an untalented artist at the end with nobody to teach her how to draw.
* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly still remains an untalented artist at the end with nobody to teach her how to draw.
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* JerkassBall: JerkassBall:
** Carly really TookALevelInJerkass in this episode by both denouncing Spencer's artistic tutoring and also screaming that he's not a good artist at all in front of her former artteacher.teacher.
** In addition, Carly's approach to art is very machine-like and robotic since she is only interested in drawing a rabbit to outshine Sam and Freddie's ridicule of her poor drawing. She dismisses Spencer's tutoring that she must first develop a passion for art, and even gets hostile at Spencer for trying to make her draw something other than a rabbit.
* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly still remains an untalented artist at the end with nobody to teach her how to draw. To make this even more karmic, Carly only wanted to learn how to draw to get back at Sam and Freddie.
** Carly really TookALevelInJerkass in this episode by both denouncing Spencer's artistic tutoring and also screaming that he's not a good artist at all in front of her former art
** In addition, Carly's approach to art is very machine-like and robotic since she is only interested in drawing a rabbit to outshine Sam and Freddie's ridicule of her poor drawing. She dismisses Spencer's tutoring that she must first develop a passion for art, and even gets hostile at Spencer for trying to make her draw something other than a rabbit.
* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly still remains an untalented artist at the end with nobody to teach her how to draw. To make this even more karmic, Carly only wanted to learn how to draw to get back at Sam and Freddie.
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* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly still remains an untalented drawer at the end with nobody to teach her how to draw.
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* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly still remains an untalented drawer artist at the end with nobody to teach her how to draw.
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* LoopholeAbuse: Gibby performs this to Mr. Howard as he points out the rules in the studen handbook, stating that he doesn’t have to wear a
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* LoopholeAbuse: Gibby performs this to Mr. Howard as he points out the rules in the studen student handbook, stating that he doesn’t have to wear aa shirt.
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* LoopholeAbuse: Gibby performs this to Mr. Howard as he points out the rules in the studen handbook, stating that he doesn’t have to wear a shirt.
** Mr. Howard: You know the rules. You are required to wear a shirt during school hours.
** Gibby: Uh-uh. Check the Student Handbook. [Hands the book to Mr. Howard.]
** Mr. Howard: Handbook…?
** Gibby: Page 74.
** Mr. Howard: I know where it is!…A-ha. "No tube tops, no jolly pants, no turtlenecks."
** Gibby: Doesn't say I gotta wear a shirt, does it?
** Mr. Howard: [Growls] Carry on.
** Mr. Howard: You know the rules. You are required to wear a shirt during school hours.
** Gibby: Uh-uh. Check the Student Handbook. [Hands the book to Mr. Howard.]
** Mr. Howard: Handbook…?
** Gibby: Page 74.
** Mr. Howard: I know where it is!…A-ha. "No tube tops, no jolly pants, no turtlenecks."
** Gibby: Doesn't say I gotta wear a shirt, does it?
** Mr. Howard: [Growls] Carry on.
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* LoopholeAbuse: Gibby performs this to Mr. Howard as he points out the rules in the studen handbook, stating that he doesn’t have to wear a shirt.
** Mr. Howard: You know the rules. You are required to wear a shirt during school hours.
** Gibby: Uh-uh. Check the Student Handbook. [Hands the book to Mr. Howard.]
** Mr. Howard: Handbook…?
** Gibby: Page 74.
** Mr. Howard: I know where it is!…A-ha. "No tube tops, no jolly pants, no turtlenecks."
** Gibby: Doesn't say I gotta wear a shirt, does it?
** Mr. Howard: [Growls] Carry on.a
** Mr. Howard: You know the rules. You are required to wear a shirt during school hours.
** Gibby: Uh-uh. Check the Student Handbook. [Hands the book to Mr. Howard.]
** Mr. Howard: Handbook…?
** Gibby: Page 74.
** Mr. Howard: I know where it is!…A-ha. "No tube tops, no jolly pants, no turtlenecks."
** Gibby: Doesn't say I gotta wear a shirt, does it?
** Mr. Howard: [Growls] Carry on.
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** Mr. Howard: You know the rules. You are required to wear a shirt during school hours.
** Gibby: Uh-uh. Check the Student Handbook. [Hands the book to Mr. Howard.]
** Mr. Howard: Handbook…?
** Gibby: Page 74.
** Mr. Howard: I know where it is!…A-ha. "No tube tops, no jolly pants, no turtlenecks."
** Gibby: Doesn't say I gotta wear a shirt, does it?
** Mr. Howard: [Growls] Carry on.
** Gibby: Uh-uh. Check the Student Handbook. [Hands the book to Mr. Howard.]
** Mr. Howard: Handbook…?
** Gibby: Page 74.
** Mr. Howard: I know where it is!…A-ha. "No tube tops, no jolly pants, no turtlenecks."
** Gibby: Doesn't say I gotta wear a shirt, does it?
** Mr. Howard: [Growls] Carry on.
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* LoopholeAbuse: Gibby performs this to Mr. Howard as he points out the rules in the studen handbook, stating that he doesn’t have to wear a shirt.
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Meanwhile, Carly asks Spencer to give her art lessons so she can draw a bunny properly, but (in Carly's opinion) he causes more harm than good.
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Meanwhile, Carly asks Spencer to give her art lessons so she can draw a bunny properly, but she mistreats him, since (in Carly's opinion) he causes more harm than good.
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* RelationshipSabotage: Attempted only. Carly tries to prevent Spencer and the art teacher from making up and kissing but doesn't succeed.
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* BerserkButton: Spencer (obviously) does not take denigration of his artistic skills well. Carly taking a community school's art class drives him mad and leads to him [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge sabotaging the class]].
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* ShouldntWeBeInSchoolRightNow: Carly is never seen in school for the rest of the episode after Sam and Freddie win the locker. Lampshaded when Sam says "She overslept this morning" before Principal Franklin announces the winner.
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* ShouldntWeBeInSchoolRightNow: Carly is never seen in school for the rest of the episode after Sam and Freddie win the locker. Lampshaded when Sam says "She overslept this morning" before Principal Franklin announces the winner. Justified in that Spencer kept Carly up all night trying to make her draw spontaneous and random things at random times.
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* AnAesop: The Carly-Spencer subplot has one. The art teacher claims that to be an artist, you have to be spontaneous and creative, rather than following instructions from class on how to draw in a rigid manner such as drawing merely straight lines and shapes.
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* AnAesop: AnAesop:
** Sharing is hard, but it's important to learn.
** Treat your teachers with respect.
** The Carly-Spencer subplot has one. The art teacher claims that to be an artist, you have to be spontaneous and creative, rather than following instructions from class on how to draw in a rigid manner such as drawing merely straight lines and shapes.
** Sharing is hard, but it's important to learn.
** Treat your teachers with respect.
** The Carly-Spencer subplot has one. The art teacher claims that to be an artist, you have to be spontaneous and creative, rather than following instructions from class on how to draw in a rigid manner such as drawing merely straight lines and shapes.
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* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly still remains an untalented drawer at the end with nobody to teach her how tot draw.
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* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly still remains an untalented drawer at the end with nobody to teach her how tot to draw.
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* JerkassBall: Carly really TookALevelInJerkass in this episode by both denouncing Spencer's artistic tutoring and also screaming that he's not a good artist at all in front of her former art teacher.
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* NoEnding: Carly still doesn't learn how to draw well at the end, as she hostilely turned away Spencer and the community art teacher gave up trying to simply give bland and minimal instructions in doing art, which is what Carly wanted. But as stated above, it's karma for Carly given how badly she mistreated Spencer.
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* LaserGuidedKarma: As rightly-served karma for hostilely refusing any of Spencer's advice, Carly still remains an untalented drawer at the end with nobody to teach her how tot draw.
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* SlapSlapKiss: Spencer and the community art teacher fight over just what makes an artist by painting each other repeatedly until they're both covered thickly in paint. But then the teacher admits that she now believes Spencer had a point and they make up by kissing.
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Meanwhile, Carly asks Spencer to give her art lessons so she can draw a bunny properly, but he causes more harm than good.
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Meanwhile, Carly asks Spencer to give her art lessons so she can draw a bunny properly, but (in Carly's opinion) he causes more harm than good.
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* AnAesop: The Carly-Spencer subplot has one. The art teacher claims that to be an artist, you have to be spontaneous and creative, rather than following instructions from class on how to draw in a rigid manner such as drawing merely straight lines and shapes.
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'''iMust Have Locker 239''' is the 19th episode in the 2nd season of ''iCarly''.
Sam and Freddie are forced to share the same locker after they both win a contest, and they clash over each other's ideas over it.
Meanwhile, Carly asks Spencer to give her art lessons so she can draw a bunny properly, but he causes more harm than good.
!!Tropes:
* ShouldntWeBeInSchoolRightNow: Carly is never seen in school for the rest of the episode after Sam and Freddie win the locker. Lampshaded when Sam says "She overslept this morning" before Principal Franklin announces the winner.
* TakeOurWordForIt: We never see the first bunny Carly drew, but we do get a few points on it.
Sam and Freddie are forced to share the same locker after they both win a contest, and they clash over each other's ideas over it.
Meanwhile, Carly asks Spencer to give her art lessons so she can draw a bunny properly, but he causes more harm than good.
!!Tropes:
* ShouldntWeBeInSchoolRightNow: Carly is never seen in school for the rest of the episode after Sam and Freddie win the locker. Lampshaded when Sam says "She overslept this morning" before Principal Franklin announces the winner.
* TakeOurWordForIt: We never see the first bunny Carly drew, but we do get a few points on it.