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* TakenDuringTheEnding: Tyrion and Varys hang out at a brothel which coincidentally Jorah is staying at. While Tyrion goes off on his own to relieve himself, Jorah follows him to get a good look at his face, and once he recognizes he's Tyrion Lannister, he kidnaps him to take him to "the queen".
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* DoesNotLikeShoes: The High Sparrow doesn't wear shoes because he gave away his only pair to someone who needed them more.
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* {{Retcon}} A minor one; in the Season 3 History and Lore dvd extras, Tywin narrates about the various houses of the Westerlands and the role they play; when talking about House Payne, he offhandedly mentions, "apparently a younger Payne now serves my son, Tyrion" - giving no suggestion that he personally assigned Pod as Tyrion's squire as Pod claims here. It is possible Tywin simply forgot -- he's a busy man and it's an insignificant matter, after all -- but it's still a notable discrepancy.

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* {{Retcon}} {{Retcon}}: A minor one; in the Season 3 History and Lore dvd DVD extras, Tywin narrates about the various houses of the Westerlands and the role they play; when talking about House Payne, he offhandedly mentions, "apparently a younger Payne now serves my son, Tyrion" - giving no suggestion that he personally assigned Pod as Tyrion's squire as Pod claims here. It is possible Tywin simply forgot -- he's a busy man and it's an insignificant matter, after all -- but it's still a notable discrepancy.
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* TooDumbToLive: Janos Slynt is in a very bad position but his arrogance blinds him to this. Jon has the support of at least half the Night Watch and is clearly favored by Stannis. Slynt's only ally of any significance is Allister Thorne and Jon has just offered Thorne a prestigious position In the Night Watch command structure. Rather than taking revenge on Slynt, Jon instead has him ReassignedToAntarctica to a remote castle where Slynt cannot cause much trouble. The "Antarctica" itself was also really not that bad. It needed to be fixed, but once it was, he would have been in command of one of only four functional forts on the Wall. Slynt could haved accepted this posting and saved some face -- even redeemed himself, had he exceeded the presumably low expectations of him -- but instead he openly defied the Commander's orders and insulted him to boot[[note]]despite the fact that breaking oaths is a pretty big deal for the Night's Watch[[/note]]. Thorne is too savvy and honorable to support Slynt in such a blatant display of insubordination, especially after he just got positively recognized in a demonstration of Jon's character[[note]]which to others could have indicated that Janos ''would'' have had a chance to be rewarded for doing the right thing[[/note]]. Slynt thought Jon wouldn't have the balls to execute him. [[IncrediblyLamePun He was dead wrong]].

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* TooDumbToLive: Janos Slynt is in a very bad position but his arrogance blinds him to this. Jon has the support of at least half the Night Watch and is clearly favored by Stannis. Slynt's only ally of any significance is Allister Thorne and Jon has just offered Thorne a prestigious position In the Night Watch command structure. Rather than taking revenge on Slynt, Jon instead has him ReassignedToAntarctica to a remote castle where Slynt cannot cause much trouble. The "Antarctica" itself was also really not that bad. It needed to be fixed, but once it was, he would have been in command of one of only four functional forts on the Wall. Slynt could haved accepted this posting and saved some face -- even redeemed himself, had he exceeded the presumably low expectations of him -- but instead he openly defied the Commander's orders and insulted him to boot[[note]]despite the fact that breaking oaths is a pretty big deal for the Night's Watch[[/note]]. Thorne is too savvy and honorable to support Slynt in such a blatant display of insubordination, especially after he just got positively recognized in a demonstration of Jon's character[[note]]which to others could have indicated that Janos ''would'' have had a chance to be rewarded for doing the right thing[[/note]]. Slynt thought Jon wouldn't have the balls to execute him. [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} He was dead wrong]].
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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: Invoked by Lord Snow. Rather than mistreat his WorthyOpponent, he decides to make Alliser Thorne the new First Ranger.

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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: AsskickingLeadsToLeadership: Invoked by Lord Snow. Rather than mistreat his WorthyOpponent, he decides to make Alliser Thorne the new First Ranger.

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* GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex: Margaery brags to her Ladies in Waiting that she and Tommen had a go four times in a single night. Naturally, [[PassiveAggressiveCombat she says this within earshot of Cersei]]. (Of course, she may having been lying a tad to piss Cersei off.)



* PassiveAggressiveCombat: Margaery, when speaking with Cersei, discreetly mocks her for being a LadyDrunk while also mentioning [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex what a lion Tommen is in bed]] and that she may become a grandmother soon. All without skipping a beat.

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* PassiveAggressiveCombat: Margaery, when speaking with Cersei, discreetly mocks her for being a LadyDrunk while also mentioning [[GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex what a lion Tommen is in bed]] bed and that she may become a grandmother soon. All without skipping a beat.
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* GirlPosse: Margaery's ladies-in-waiting, right down to being used to taunt TheRival.

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* GirlPosse: Margaery's ladies-in-waiting, right down to being used to taunt TheRival.TheRival (Cersei, in this case).



* HidingBehindTheLanguageBarrier: Tyrion insulting the brothel bouncer.

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-->"Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Like Lord Duckling, or King Turtle. We're often stuck with the names our enemies give to us. The notion that we are all equal in the eyes of the Seven doesn't sit well with some so they belittle me. It's only a name, quite an easy burden to wear."
* KarmicDeath: Janos Slynt, the man whose treachery lead to Ned Stark being decapitated, is beheaded by Jon Snow, his son, and a bastard like the children Slynt slayed on Joffrey's orders. For bonus points, like Ned, Janos is decapitaed by a blade made of Valyrian steel.

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-->"Sounds -->'''High Sparrow:''' Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Like Lord Duckling, or King Turtle. We're often stuck with the names our enemies give to us. The notion that we are all equal in the eyes of the Seven doesn't sit well with some so they belittle me. It's only a name, quite an easy burden to wear."
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* KarmicDeath: Janos Slynt, the man whose treachery lead to Ned Stark being decapitated, is beheaded by Jon Snow, his son, and a bastard like the children Slynt slayed on Joffrey's orders. For bonus points, like Ned, Janos is decapitaed decapitated by a blade made of Valyrian steel.
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* LousyLoversAreLosers: PlayedWith. When the virgin and naive Tommen who's barely a teen consummates his ArrangedMarriage to the experienced Margaery Tyrell who's in her twenties, it's obviously not satisfying for her while he [[SpeedSex gets spent quickly]]. But she's [[PoliticallyActivePrincess too politically savvy]] to let something like that bother her and simply pretends it was an ideal wedding night in order to keep him happy. The next days in court, she acts like they're InsatiableNewlyWeds and spread rumors about how he's "a lion in bed", to create the image that the new boy-king of Westeros is a [[MenAreTough real man]].
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* AbsenteeActor: Unlike Loras and Mace, Lady Olenna (Diana Rigg) is nowhere to be seen during the very brief shots of her granddaughter's wedding. Margaery remarks later that Olenna couldn't wait to go home.
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** Cersei and Qyburn exchange a look that fully indicates their awareness the High Septon is talking rubbish to them.
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** Reek/Theon sees the caged messenger ravens being resupplied to Winterfell, after he had them all killed in "[[GameOfThronesS2E8ThePrinceOfWinterfell The Prince Of Winterfell]]." The same scene also features fully flayed bodies hanging over the entrance to Winterfell much in the same manner Theon had done to the orphans in Season 2.
** Taking it all the way back to the first episode of the series, "[[GameOfThronesS1E1WinterIsComing Winter Is Coming]]": as Jon Snow is the man who passes the sentence, Jon Snow is the man who swings the sword. He even holds Longclaw [[SwordPlant with its tip touching the ground]] in the same iconic manner that Ned held Ice then. He produces a perfect clean cut with a single-handed sword, [[Recap/GameOfThronesS3E5KissedByFire like Robb]] and [[Recap/GameOfThronesS2E6TheOldGodsAndTheNew unlike Theon]].

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** Reek/Theon sees the caged messenger ravens being resupplied to Winterfell, after he had them all killed in "[[GameOfThronesS2E8ThePrinceOfWinterfell ''[[Recap/GameOfThronesS2E8ThePrinceOfWinterfell The Prince Of Winterfell]]." Winterfell]]''. The same scene also features fully flayed bodies hanging over the entrance to Winterfell much in the same manner Theon had done to the orphans in Season 2.
** Taking it all the way back to the first episode of the series, "[[GameOfThronesS1E1WinterIsComing ''[[Recap/GameOfThronesS1E1WinterIsComing Winter Is Coming]]": Coming]]'': as Jon Snow is the man who passes the sentence, Jon Snow is the man who swings the sword. He even holds Longclaw [[SwordPlant with its tip touching the ground]] in the same iconic manner that Ned held Ice then. He produces a perfect clean cut with a single-handed sword, [[Recap/GameOfThronesS3E5KissedByFire like Robb]] and [[Recap/GameOfThronesS2E6TheOldGodsAndTheNew unlike Theon]].
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* BoundAndGagged[=/=]OverTheShoulderCarry: Jorah loops a rope around Tyrion's neck, slips a knotted section between his teeth, and hoists him over his shoulder.

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* BoundAndGagged[=/=]OverTheShoulderCarry: BoundAndGagged: Jorah loops a rope around Tyrion's neck, slips a knotted section between his teeth, and hoists him over his shoulder.



* TheChosenOne[=/=]MessianicArchetype: The red priestess in Volantis preaches that Daenerys Targaryen was born to be a savior for followers of the Lord of Light.

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* TheChosenOne[=/=]MessianicArchetype: TheChosenOne: The red priestess in Volantis preaches that Daenerys Targaryen was born to be a savior for followers of the Lord of Light.



* [[ThatManIsDead That Girl is Dead]]: A non-verbal example. To truly become no one, Arya throws away all her possessions into the canal. Ultimately subverted when she cannot bear to be parted from Needle, the sword her brother Jon gave her. She hides it away instead.

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* [[ThatManIsDead That Girl is Dead]]: ThatManIsDead: A non-verbal example. To truly become no one, Arya throws away all her possessions into the canal. Ultimately subverted when she cannot bear to be parted from Needle, the sword her brother Jon gave her. She hides it away instead.
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** Cersei is much more polite to the High Sparrow than she was in the books, even saying that the Crown and the Faith had to work together to keep the peace.

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** Cersei is much more polite to the High Sparrow than she was in the books, even saying that the Crown and the Faith had to work together to keep the peace. In the books, she dismisses him as another potential underling [[BeliefMakesYouStupid whose faith will make him easy to manipulate]].
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** The High Septon tries to pass off his visit to a brothel as tending to the lowborn, Qyburn retorts in kind and wonders if he was ministering to the needs of these devout prostitutes.

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** The High Septon tries to pass off his visit to a brothel as tending to the lowborn, Qyburn retorts in kind and wonders if [[SarcasmMode he was ministering to the needs of these devout prostitutes.prostitutes]].



* ShamefulStrip / PerpWalk: For the crime of hiring whores for a particularly blasphemous sexual roleplay, the sparrows parade the High Septon naked in front the city while chanting "sinner".

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* ShamefulStrip / PerpWalk: For the crime of hiring whores for a particularly blasphemous sexual roleplay, the sparrows parade the High Septon naked in front of the city while chanting "sinner".
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* AdaptationalWimp: The High Sparrow is quite polite and deferential to Cersei, whereas in the books, his first meeting with her (which takes place after the Sparrows, tired with the corruption amongst the highest echelons of the Faith, storm the Sept of Baelor and forces the Most Devout to name their leader as High Septon, with no help from Cersei) is far more confrontational; the Sparrows refuse to allow the Kingsguard into the Sept, forcing Cersei to meet with the High Sparrow alone, the High Sparrow refuses to speak with her until he has completed his morning prayers, shows Cersei that [[YesMan the cronies]] she had amongst the Faith have effectively been stripped of any form of power, and proceeds to berate her for a number of grievances the Faith has with the Crown, most notably [[Recap/GameOfThronesS1E9Baelor Eddard Stark's execution]], the High Sparrow reiterating the Faith's long held view that having Ned beheaded on holy ground was [[ThisIsUnforgivable an outrageous act of sacrilege]] that profaned the Sept, (particularly after the Faith had been promised Ned's life was to be spared) and [[NoSell dismisses Cersei's attempts to justify Joffrey's actions]].

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* AdaptationalWimp: The High Sparrow is quite polite and deferential to Cersei, whereas in the books, his first meeting with her (which takes place after the Sparrows, tired with the corruption amongst the highest echelons of the Faith, storm the Sept of Baelor and forces the Most Devout to name their leader as High Septon, with no help from Cersei) is far more confrontational; the Sparrows refuse to allow the Kingsguard into the Sept, forcing Cersei to meet with the High Sparrow alone, the High Sparrow refuses dictates the terms of the meeting by refusing to speak with her until he has completed his morning prayers, shows Cersei that [[YesMan the cronies]] she had amongst the Faith have effectively been stripped of any form of power, and proceeds to berate her for a number of grievances the Faith has with the Crown, most notably [[Recap/GameOfThronesS1E9Baelor Eddard Stark's execution]], the High Sparrow reiterating the Faith's long held view that having Ned beheaded on holy ground was [[ThisIsUnforgivable an outrageous act of sacrilege]] that profaned the Sept, (particularly after the Faith had been promised Ned's life was to be spared) and [[NoSell dismisses Cersei's attempts to justify Joffrey's actions]].
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** Margarey comes across as one towards Cersei for once, complete with her syncophatic GirlPosse.

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** Margarey comes across as one towards Cersei for once, complete with her syncophatic a sycophantic GirlPosse.
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* BothSidesHaveAPoint: The High Sparrow evokes this about his Sparrows parading the High Septon naked through the street; while they were quite right to punish a holy man breaking his vows and abusing his position, the Sparrows could have used a bit more discretion in the matter.
-->'''High Sparrow''': I'd assumed you'd only come to arrest me, for that incident with the High Septon.
-->'''Cersei''': An unacceptable way to treat the chosen representative of the gods in this world, wouldn't you say?
-->'''High Sparrow''': Hypocrisy is a boil. Lancing a boil is never pleasant. Although they could have been more careful with the blade.

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* ModestyBedsheet: Margaery, though the audience ([[EatingTheEyeCandy and Tommen]]) do get a look at her SexyBack as she dresses in a robe.

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* ModestyBedsheet: Margaery, Tommen and Margaery after their wedding night, though the audience ([[EatingTheEyeCandy and Tommen]]) do get a look at her SexyBack ToplessnessFromTheBack as she dresses in a robe.



--> '''Servant Woman''': Welcome home Lady Stark. The North remembers.

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--> '''Servant Woman''': Welcome home Lady Stark. The North remembers.Remembers.


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* SexGoddess: Margaery has Tommen panting in exhaustion after sleeping with him. {{Downplayed}} in that he's was an inexperienced virgin. Later she's seen telling her ladies in waiting about how ''he'' is a SexGod just as a disturbed Cercei walks into the room.
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* MaskOfSanity: Ramsay puts his on when Littlefinger and Sansa arrive, its kind of unnerving to see him like this.

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* MaskOfSanity: Ramsay puts his on when Littlefinger and Sansa arrive, its arrive. It's kind of unnerving to see him like this.
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* AdaptationalWimp: The High Sparrow is quite polite and deferential to Cersei, whereas in the books, his first meeting with her (which takes place after the Sparrows, tired with the corruption amongst the highest echelons of the Faith, storm the Sept of Baelor and forces the Most Devout to name their leader as High Septon, with no help from Cersei) is far more confrontational; the Sparrows refuse to allow the Kingsguard into the Sept, forcing Cersei to meet with the High Sparrow alone, the High Sparrow refuses to speak with her until he has completed his morning prayers, shows Cersei that [[YesMan the cronies]] she had amongst the Faith have effectively been stripped of any form of power, and proceeds to berate her for a number of grievances the Faith has with the Crown, most notably [[Recap/GameOfThronesS1E9Baelor Eddard Stark's execution]], the High Sparrow reiterating the Faith's long held view that having Ned beheaded on holy ground was [[ThisIsUnforgivable an outrageous act of sacrilege]] that profaned the Sept, (particularly after the Faith had been promised Ned's life was to be spared) and [[NoSell dismisses Cersei's attempts to justify Joffrey's actions]].
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** Margarey comes across as one towards Cersei for once, complete with her syncophatic GirlPosse.

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** Taking it all the way back to the first episode of the series, "[[GameOfThronesS1E1WinterIsComing Winter Is Coming]]": as Jon Snow is the man who passes the sentence, Jon Snow is the man who swings the sword. He even holds Longclaw with its tip touching the ground in the same iconic manner that Ned held Ice then. He produces a perfect clean cut with a single-handed sword, [[Recap/GameOfThronesS3E5KissedByFire like Robb]] and [[Recap/GameOfThronesS2E6TheOldGodsAndTheNew unlike Theon]].

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** Taking it all the way back to the first episode of the series, "[[GameOfThronesS1E1WinterIsComing Winter Is Coming]]": as Jon Snow is the man who passes the sentence, Jon Snow is the man who swings the sword. He even holds Longclaw [[SwordPlant with its tip touching the ground ground]] in the same iconic manner that Ned held Ice then. He produces a perfect clean cut with a single-handed sword, [[Recap/GameOfThronesS3E5KissedByFire like Robb]] and [[Recap/GameOfThronesS2E6TheOldGodsAndTheNew unlike Theon]].


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** Brienne says her UndyingLoyalty to King Renly was because he was kind to her. In "The Wolf and the Lion", Ser Loras tells Renly that he would make a good king because of this. "People love you. They want to serve you because you're kind to them."
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* UndyingLoyalty: Like Stannis in the last episode, the Boltons run into this with the Northern lords many of whom are refusing to submit to them as the new lords of Winterfell- despite all Ramsay's flaying.

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* UndyingLoyalty: Like Stannis in the last episode, the Boltons run into this with the Northern lords many of whom are refusing to submit to them as the new lords Wardens of Winterfell- the North, despite all Ramsay's flaying.brutality.
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* UndyingLoyalty: Like Stannis in the last episode, the Boltons run into this with the Northern lords many of whom are refusing to submit to them as the new lords of Winterfell- despite all Ramsay's flaying.
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* GirlPosse: Margaery's ladies in waiting, right down to being used to taunt TheRival.

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* GirlPosse: Margaery's ladies in waiting, ladies-in-waiting, right down to being used to taunt TheRival.
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** Stannis gives Jon a nod of approval after his execution of Slynt.

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There's no way she's blind. See Discussion.


Within '''The House of Black and White''', Arya lies on her bed, examining the iron coin that marks her as an initiate. The waif enters her room and, though blind, teaches the noble-born lady that she's not as badass as she thinks she is. And that she is not ready to cast aside her identity. A man uses his uncanny stealth skills to appear abruptly and defuse the situation, as Arya is ready to stick the waif with Needle in repayment for the cane slaps. Jaqen tell her straight and true. If she believes she is ready to learn, then she must prove it. To throw away ''everything'' that physically connects her to her old life. The ragged jerkin she wore since the beginning of Season Two, and the filthy clothes she has worn since ''Season One'', the Hound's stolen sack of silver and of course; Jon's last gift to her.

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Within '''The House of Black and White''', Arya lies on her bed, examining the iron coin that marks her as an initiate. The waif enters her room and, though blind, and teaches the noble-born lady that she's not as badass as she thinks she is. And that she is not ready to cast aside her identity. A man uses his uncanny stealth skills to appear abruptly and defuse the situation, as Arya is ready to stick the waif with Needle in repayment for the cane slaps. Jaqen tell her straight and true. If she believes she is ready to learn, then she must prove it. To throw away ''everything'' that physically connects her to her old life. The ragged jerkin she wore since the beginning of Season Two, and the filthy clothes she has worn since ''Season One'', the Hound's stolen sack of silver and of course; Jon's last gift to her.



* HandicappedBadass: The blind girl who beats Arya up with her cane.



* NoNameGiven: The Waif, the blind girl at The House of Black and White.

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* NoNameGiven: The Waif, the blind blonde girl at The House of Black and White.

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