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* '''Justified''': If everyone was actively helpful then no one could function alone.

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* '''Justified''': If everyone was actively helpful helpful, then no one could function alone.



** Bob is incredibly helpful, doing so the people he aids become helpless without him.

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** Bob is incredibly helpful, doing so much so that the people he aids become helpless without him.



* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob appears cruel to be kind, but is really a jerk. Except he actually just wants people to believe that so they know unforgivable people exist. However, he's excessively cruel in doing so...

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob appears cruel to be kind, but is really a jerk. Except he actually just wants people to believe that so they they'll know that unforgivable people exist. However, he's excessively cruel in doing so...showing them that...



* '''Exploited''': Bob's rival tricks Bob's patients to focus more on his cruelty than his helpfulness.

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* '''Exploited''': Bob's rival tricks Bob's patients to focus into focusing more on his cruelty than his helpfulness.



** "I do not ''care'' how "kind" you think it will be for me in the long run, if you ever treat me like that, I'll pay you back with greater "kindness", by which I mean I will make sure you spend a huge chunk of your life in ICU! Do you understand me?"
* '''Discussed''': "Bob is such a jerk, always insulting people." "You didn't notice? The people he insults grow used to it so they aren't bothered by anyone's insults."
* '''Conversed''': "I don't get it, why would anyone think being cruel to be kind works?" "Well, if you're just clearly helpful then people will expect you to do their work for them."

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** "I do not ''care'' how "kind" you think it will be for me in the long run, if run. If you ever treat me like that, I'll pay you back with greater "kindness", by which I mean I will make sure you spend a huge chunk of your life in ICU! Do you understand me?"
* '''Discussed''': "Bob is such a jerk, always insulting people." "You didn't notice? The people he insults grow used to it it, so they aren't bothered by anyone's insults."
* '''Conversed''': "I don't get it, why it. Why would anyone think being cruel to be kind works?" "Well, if you're just clearly helpful helpful, then people will expect you to do their work for them."



** Bob, known for being cruel, is ultimately avoided regardless of how helpful he is because he's still ''cruel'' in doing so.
** The people Bob 'helped' become angry and vengeful toward him and retaliate by [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine making his life just as miserable as he made them]] while telling him to thank them for returning his so-called 'kindness'.
** Bob's "kindness" is nothing of the sort, only him using the pretense of being "cruel to be kind" as an excuse to tear people down and satiating his sadistic desires. When people figure this out, they start to avoid him because it's clear that he's a selfish arrogant tool twisting the truth to justify his actions.
** Bob's attempts to impart a valuable lesson to Alice through an apparent act of cruelty, but it doesn't work because the cruelty is all Alice noticed. Bob's actions ended up [[DontShootTheMessage shooting the message]].
*** Alice may eventually notice the lesson Bob was trying to convey, but chooses to ignore the lesson because Bob was such an asshole about it.
* '''Reconstructed''': Though known for being cruel in his attempts to be helpful, the fact he's actually successful gets people to seek him out.

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** Bob, known for being cruel, is ultimately avoided avoided, regardless of how helpful he is is, because he's still ''cruel'' in doing so.
** The people Bob 'helped' "helped" become angry and vengeful toward him and retaliate by [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine making his life just as miserable as he made them]] while telling him to thank them for returning his so-called 'kindness'.
"kindness".
** Bob's "kindness" is nothing of the sort, only him using the pretense of being "cruel to be kind" as an excuse to tear people down and satiating satiate his sadistic desires. When people figure this out, they start to avoid him because it's clear that he's a selfish selfish, arrogant tool who's twisting the truth to justify his actions.
** Bob's Bob attempts to impart a valuable lesson to Alice through an apparent act of cruelty, but it doesn't work because the cruelty is all Alice noticed. Bob's actions ended up [[DontShootTheMessage shooting the message]].
*** Alice may eventually notice notices the lesson Bob was trying to convey, but chooses to ignore the lesson because Bob was such an asshole about it.
* '''Reconstructed''': Though known for being cruel in his attempts to be helpful, the fact that he's actually successful gets people to seek him out.



* '''Played For Drama''': Bob's attempts to be cruel to be kind work, except he's now clearly hated by the person he helped.

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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob's attempts to be cruel to be kind work, except that he's now clearly hated by the person people he helped.

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** Bob forces Charlie to undergo treatments and surgeries that seem painful but necessary, but actually [[MunchausenSyndrome makes Charlie's condition worse]].



** Alternatively, the people Bob 'helped' become angry and vengeful toward him and retaliate by [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine making his life just as miserable as he made them]] while telling him to thank them for returning his so-called 'kindness'.

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** Alternatively, the The people Bob 'helped' become angry and vengeful toward him and retaliate by [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine making his life just as miserable as he made them]] while telling him to thank them for returning his so-called 'kindness'.

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* '''Subverted''': Bob appears to be cruel to be kind, but he's really just a jerk who doesn’t care about other people.

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* '''Subverted''': Bob '''Subverted''':
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appears to be cruel to be kind, [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk but he's really just a jerk who doesn’t care about other people.people]].
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** Bob’s attempts to impart a valuable lesson to Alice through an apparent act of cruelty, but it doesn’t work because the cruelty is all Alice noticed. Bob’s actions ended up [[DontShootTheMessage shooting the message]].
*** Alice may eventually notice the lesson Bob was trying to convey, but chooses to ignore the lesson because Bob was such an asshole about it.

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* '''Played For Horror''': Bob borrowed his book on how to be cruel to be kind from [[Franchise/{{Saw}} John "Jigsaw" Kramer]].

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* '''Played For Horror''': Horror''':
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Bob borrowed his book on how to be cruel to be kind from [[Franchise/{{Saw}} John "Jigsaw" Kramer]].Kramer]].
** Played for drama, but the ''victim'' is the one who's going to pull all the Kramer style traps on Bob.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob appears to be cruel to be kind, but he's really just a jerk who doesn’t care about what happens to others.

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* '''Subverted''': Bob appears to be cruel to be kind, but he's really just a jerk who doesn’t care about what happens to others.other people.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob appears to be cruel to be kind, but he's really just a jerk.

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* '''Subverted''': Bob appears to be cruel to be kind, but he's really just a jerk.jerk who doesn’t care about what happens to others.
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** Alternatively, The people Bob 'helped' become angry and vengeful toward him and retaliate by [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine making his life just as miserable as he made them]] while telling him to thank them for returning his so-called 'kindness'.

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** Alternatively, The the people Bob 'helped' become angry and vengeful toward him and retaliate by [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine making his life just as miserable as he made them]] while telling him to thank them for returning his so-called 'kindness'.
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* '''Played For Horror''': Bob borrowed his book on how to be cruel to be kind from [[Film/{{Saw}} John "Jigsaw" Kramer]].

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* '''Played For Horror''': Bob borrowed his book on how to be cruel to be kind from [[Film/{{Saw}} [[Franchise/{{Saw}} John "Jigsaw" Kramer]].
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* '''Played For Horror''': Bob borrowed his book on how to be cruel to be kind from [[Film/{{Saw}} John "Jigsaw" Kramer]].

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* '''Defied''': "If I'm going to be kind, then I'll actually ''be'' kind about it."

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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
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"If I'm going to be kind, then I'll actually ''be'' kind about it.""
** "I do not ''care'' how "kind" you think it will be for me in the long run, if you ever treat me like that, I'll pay you back with greater "kindness", by which I mean I will make sure you spend a huge chunk of your life in ICU! Do you understand me?"
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob appears to cruel to be kind, but is really a jerk. Except he actually just wants people believing that so they know unforgivable people exist. Yet he's excessively cruel in doing so, however...

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob appears to cruel to be kind, but is really a jerk. Except he actually just wants people believing to believe that so they know unforgivable people exist. Yet However, he's excessively cruel in doing so, however...so...
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** Bob's "kindness" is nothing of the sort, only him using the pretense of being "cruel to be kind" as an excuse to tear people down and satiating his sadistic desires. When people figure this out, they start to avoid him because it's clear that he's a selfish arrogant tool twisting the truth to justify his actions.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob, known for being cruel, is ultimately avoided regardless of how helpful he is because he's still ''cruel'' in doing so.

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Bob, known for being cruel, is ultimately avoided regardless of how helpful he is because he's still ''cruel'' in doing so.
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** Alternatively, The people Bob 'helped' become angry and vengeful toward him and retaliate by [[ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine making his life just as miserable as he made them]] while telling him to thank them for returning his so-called 'kindness'.
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** CruelMercy

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** CruelMercyCruelMercy.



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* '''Straight''': Bob insults his sensitive friends so they'll learn to ignore insults.

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* '''Straight''': Bob insults his sensitive friends people so they'll learn to ignore insults.
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* '''Parodied''': Bob is Charlie's childhood bully and never misses a day in bullying him. When high school comes around and Bob brings some other (genuine) bullies to torment him, Charlie has finally had enough, telling Bob off then and there and fighting his way to the school entrance-- and Bob immediately stops and congratulates him for standing up to his tormentors. Charlies responds by punching him.

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* '''Parodied''': Bob is Charlie's childhood bully and never misses a day in bullying him. When high school comes around and Bob brings some other (genuine) bullies to torment him, Charlie has finally had enough, telling Bob off then and there and fighting his way to the school entrance-- and Bob immediately stops and congratulates him for standing up to his tormentors. Charlies Charlie responds by [[ShutUpKirk punching him.him]].
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* '''Parodied''': ???

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* '''Parodied''': ???Bob is Charlie's childhood bully and never misses a day in bullying him. When high school comes around and Bob brings some other (genuine) bullies to torment him, Charlie has finally had enough, telling Bob off then and there and fighting his way to the school entrance-- and Bob immediately stops and congratulates him for standing up to his tormentors. Charlies responds by punching him.
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* '''Discussed''': "Bob is such a jerk, always insulting people." "You didn't noticed? The people he insults grow used to it so they aren't bothered by anyone's insults."

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* '''Discussed''': "Bob is such a jerk, always insulting people." "You didn't noticed? notice? The people he insults grow used to it so they aren't bothered by anyone's insults."



* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob acts under the idea of highly unlikely situations, such as volcanic eruption and robotic uprisings, in his attempts to be cruelly kind.

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* '''Played For Laughs''': Bob acts under the idea of highly unlikely situations, such as volcanic eruption eruptions and robotic uprisings, in his attempts to be cruelly kind.

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* '''Inverted''': Bob is incredibly helpful, doing so the people he aids become helpless without him.

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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
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Bob is incredibly helpful, doing so the people he aids become helpless without him.him.
** CruelMercy

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'''Basic Trope''': Being cruel to someone to ultimately help them in the long term.
* '''Straight''': Bob insults his sensitive friends so they'll learn to ignore insults.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob straight up ruins Charlie's life so he'll stop using emotions to judge his actions.

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'''Basic Trope''': Being Trope''': Being cruel to someone to ultimately help them in the long term.
* '''Straight''': Bob '''Straight''': Bob insults his sensitive friends so they'll learn to ignore insults.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob '''Exaggerated''': Bob straight up ruins Charlie's life so he'll stop using emotions to judge his actions.



* '''Justified''': If everyone was actively helpful then no one could function alone.
* '''Inverted''': Bob is incredibly helpful, doing so the people he aids become helpless without him.
* '''Subverted''': Bob appears to be cruel to be kind, but he's really just a jerk.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...Which is what he wants people believing, so they understand there are truly horrible people in this world.

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* '''Justified''': If '''Justified''': If everyone was actively helpful then no one could function alone.
* '''Inverted''': Bob '''Inverted''': Bob is incredibly helpful, doing so the people he aids become helpless without him.
* '''Subverted''': Bob '''Subverted''': Bob appears to be cruel to be kind, but he's really just a jerk.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...Subverted''': ...Which is what he wants people believing, so they understand there are truly horrible people in this world.



* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob appears to cruel to be kind, but is really a jerk. Except he actually just wants people believing that so they know unforgivable people exist. Yet he's excessively cruel in doing so, however...
* '''Averted''': People either don't know how to be cruel or they don't care about helping.
* '''Enforced''': "We need the kiddies to know there are bad people in this world. How about we have Bob be cruel in his attempts to help?"
* '''Lampshaded''': "Yep, because people ''love'' being insulted, they'll ''totally'' forgive you upon realizing how helpful it was."

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob Zagged''': Bob appears to cruel to be kind, but is really a jerk. Except he actually just wants people believing that so they know unforgivable people exist. Yet he's excessively cruel in doing so, however...
* '''Averted''': People '''Averted''': People either don't know how to be cruel or they don't care about helping.
* '''Enforced''': "We '''Enforced''': "We need the kiddies to know there are bad people in this world. How about we have Bob be cruel in his attempts to help?"
* '''Lampshaded''': "Yep, '''Lampshaded''': "Yep, because people ''love'' being insulted, they'll ''totally'' forgive you upon realizing how helpful it was."



* '''Exploited''': Bob's rival tricks Bob's patients to focus more on his cruelty than his helpfulness.
* '''Defied''': "If I'm going to be kind, then I'll actually ''be'' kind about it."

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* '''Exploited''': Bob's '''Exploited''': Bob's rival tricks Bob's patients to focus more on his cruelty than his helpfulness.
* '''Defied''': "If '''Defied''': "If I'm going to be kind, then I'll actually ''be'' kind about it."



* '''Conversed''': "I don't get it, why would anyone think being cruel to be kind works?" "Well, if you're just clearly helpful then people will expect you to do their work for them."

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* '''Conversed''': "I '''Conversed''': "I don't get it, why would anyone think being cruel to be kind works?" "Well, if you're just clearly helpful then people will expect you to do their work for them."



* '''Deconstructed''': Bob, known for being cruel, is ultimately avoided regardless of how helpful he is because he's still ''cruel'' in doing so.
* '''Reconstructed''': Though known for being cruel in his attempts to be helpful, the fact he's actually successful gets people to seek him out.



* '''Deconstructed''': Bob, known for being cruel, is ultimately avoided regardless of how helpful he is because he's still ''cruel'' in doing so.
* '''Reconstructed''': Though known for being cruel in his attempts to be helpful, the fact he's actually successful gets people to seek him out.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Bob, known for being cruel, is ultimately avoided regardless of how helpful he is because he's still ''cruel'' in doing so.
* '''Reconstructed''': Though known for being cruel in his attempts
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* '''Zig Zagged''': 

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Zagged''': Bob appears to cruel to be kind, but is really a jerk. Except he actually just wants people believing that so they know unforgivable people exist. Yet he's excessively cruel in doing so, however...



* '''Invoked''': ???

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* '''Invoked''': ???Bob, deciding being straight up nice isn't working, starts being cruel to people.



* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': 

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* '''Discussed''': ???
"Bob is such a jerk, always insulting people." "You didn't noticed? The people he insults grow used to it so they aren't bothered by anyone's insults."
* '''Conversed''': '''Conversed''': "I don't get it, why would anyone think being cruel to be kind works?" "Well, if you're just clearly helpful then people will expect you to do their work for them."



* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
* '''Played For Drama''': ???

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* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
Bob acts under the idea of highly unlikely situations, such as volcanic eruption and robotic uprisings, in his attempts to be cruelly kind.
* '''Played For Drama''': ???Bob's attempts to be cruel to be kind work, except he's now clearly hated by the person he helped.
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'''Basic Trope''': Being cruel to someone to ultimately help them in the long term.
* '''Straight''': Bob insults his sensitive friends so they'll learn to ignore insults.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob straight up ruins Charlie's life so he'll stop using emotions to judge his actions.
* '''Downplayed''': Bob refuses to help someone with something minor, instead letting them figure it out.
* '''Justified''': If everyone was actively helpful then no one could function alone.
* '''Inverted''': Bob is incredibly helpful, doing so the people he aids become helpless without him.
* '''Subverted''': Bob appears to be cruel to be kind, but he's really just a jerk.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...Which is what he wants people believing, so they understand there are truly horrible people in this world.
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': 
* '''Averted''': People either don't know how to be cruel or they don't care about helping.
* '''Enforced''': "We need the kiddies to know there are bad people in this world. How about we have Bob be cruel in his attempts to help?"
* '''Lampshaded''': "Yep, because people ''love'' being insulted, they'll ''totally'' forgive you upon realizing how helpful it was."
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': Bob's rival tricks Bob's patients to focus more on his cruelty than his helpfulness.
* '''Defied''': "If I'm going to be kind, then I'll actually ''be'' kind about it."
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': 
* '''Implied''': Bob tends to act ruder when Alice is around, though not enough that people are surprised.
* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
* '''Played For Drama''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob, known for being cruel, is ultimately avoided regardless of how helpful he is because he's still ''cruel'' in doing so.
* '''Reconstructed''': Though known for being cruel in his attempts to be helpful, the fact he's actually successful gets people to seek him out.

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