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* In the variant dungeon underneath Ul'dah, one of the possible bosses you can fight is the Silke, a giant mouse like familiar with a ball at the tip of its tail. The mount version of the familiar indicates that the actual living being is the ball itself, ''not'' the mouse, which means the creature you fought is more like a puppet.
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** Barbariccia was an elezen noblewoman whose father was [[GildedCage incredibly abusive and controlling, keeping her trapped in their house]]. One night, she snuck out of her home to visit friends, only to have her father show up and admit to her that he ''killed her friends and dumped their corpses into a river''. Enraged, she picked up a hatchet and spent the rest of the night beating him to death with it. The last we see of her father, he has the axe ''embedded in his skull''.

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** Barbariccia was an elezen noblewoman whose father was [[GildedCage incredibly abusive and controlling, keeping her trapped in their house]]. One night, she snuck out of her home to visit friends, only to have her father show up and admit to her that he ''killed her friends and dumped their corpses into a river''. Enraged, she picked up a hatchet and spent the rest of the night beating hacking him to death with it. The last we see of her father, he has the axe ''embedded in his skull''.
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* As Zero goes on to describe and remind, the Thirteenth was a normal world like any other Shard. It even had its own parallel races and structure like the First did, and the Ascians messing with it via their usual whispers of power and spreading their creation magicks as summonings. Except unlike the First, apparently they had managed to ward off the Ascians on their own terms. [[HumansAreBastards Then humanity used their new darkness-influenced powers]] and the Eidolon summons left in the Ascian's wake, and as far as Zero is aware, ''caused the Flood of Darkness themselves'' through a global conflict of mass destruction. As far as the story's concerned so far, it was not the heroes or the villains doing too good, but the reverse of what happened in the Source: the world's denizens unable to come together and ultimately tearing itself apart, making it a literal ShadowArchetype of the other reflections so far.
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*** In addition, a Voidsent can ''still starve to death'' if they do not consume, they just respawn after some time, assuming their soul isn't consumed by another while "free floating". True pacifism is effectively suicide.
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* Then there's Hephaistos' OneWingedAngel form in the Savage version. He breaks the chains restraining him, mutating his body even further with his right arm growing [[EyesDoNotBelongThere way more eyes than it should have]] and becoming larger than his body, sprouting mismatched wings, his body turning into a double-helix, and nothing but a red mask for his face, with veins flowing out like bloody tears. What you get is a ''horrifyingly grotesque'' Ascian Prime.

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* Then there's Hephaistos' OneWingedAngel form in the Savage version. He breaks the chains restraining him, mutating his body even further with his right arm growing [[EyesDoNotBelongThere way more eyes than it should have]] and becoming larger than his body, his left one becoming just as long but in a creepy, spindly way, sprouting mismatched wings, his body turning into tearing itself apart to reveal a double-helix, and nothing but a red mask for his face, with veins flowing out like bloody tears. What you get is a ''horrifyingly grotesque'' Ascian Prime. All of this BodyHorror happens in ''real-time'' by the way.
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* The [=NieR Re[in]carnation=] crossover event goes into further detail on what Emet-Selch experienced after the sundering. When the world was sundered by Venat, all of the inhabitants were reduced to mere shapeless blobs of aether that could do nothing but [[AndIMustScream moan in pain]]. Not only did Emet-Selch saw his people get reduced to husks of their former selves, this also included his dear friend Azem (who would become the [[PlayerCharacter Warrior of Light]] in the present time). While the sundered eventually managed to reform and take on the shape of the people seen today, Emet-Selch sees them as completely unrecognizable from the people and friends he used to know. Another terrible part is that the main reason for it is not only modern mankind's ignorance, but first and foremost its penchant for wars and causing each others endless misery due to their conflicts, and in the end it's even what gives the Ascians the idea to cause Chaos to hasten the rejoining. It's little wonder that the Ascian became the dour man the Scions see him as.

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* The [=NieR Re[in]carnation=] ''VideoGame/NierReincarnation'' crossover event goes into further detail on what Emet-Selch experienced after the sundering. When the world was sundered by Venat, all of the inhabitants were reduced to mere shapeless blobs of aether that could do nothing but [[AndIMustScream moan in pain]]. Not only did Emet-Selch saw his people get reduced to husks of their former selves, this also included his dear friend Azem (who would become the [[PlayerCharacter Warrior of Light]] in the present time). While the sundered eventually managed to reform and take on the shape of the people seen today, Emet-Selch sees them as completely unrecognizable from the people and friends he used to know. Another terrible part is that the main reason for it is not only modern mankind's ignorance, but first and foremost its penchant for wars and causing each others endless misery due to their conflicts, and in the end it's even what gives the Ascians the idea to cause Chaos to hasten the rejoining. It's little wonder that the Ascian became the dour man the Scions see him as.
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* Then there's Hephaistos' OneWingedAngel form in the Savage version. He breaks the chains restraining him, mutating his body even further with his right arm growing [[EyesDoNotBelongThere way more eyes than it should have]] and becoming larger than his body, sprouting mismatched wings, his body turning into a double-helix, and nothing but a red mask for his face, with veins flowing out like bloody tears. What you get is a ''horrifyingly grotesque'' Ascian Prime.
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* With the Scions now being able to visit the Thirteenth, home of the Voidsent, it has its own share of nightmares:
** Because of the chaotic energies that flow through the world, normal beings that wander in there can have their aether horribly twisted and corrupted, which can transform them into Voidsent.
** Due to the Voidsent being perpetually starved of aether, they'll attack anyone for their aether, including their own kind. Even the somewhat less violent Voidsent won't bother helping anyone unless they are paid in aether, meaning you're sacrificing some of your life force to them and that's assuming they don't just outright take ''all'' of your aether.
** Death doesn't exist on the Thirteenth. Unlike the First whose flood of Light made the world sterile, the Thirteenth's flood of Darkness caused instability, meaning that the world's energy is overactive and souls can't pass onto the next life when they are killed. Due to this, the souls that are eaten by a Voidsent are, in a way, [[AndIMustScream still conscious]] and there's no way for the Voidsent to filter this out if they are not strong enough. Since Voidsent are made up of many souls, they may not always take on the same form they had previously after dying unless they are very strong.
** Because everyone's out for blood, the Thirteenth is a DeathWorld where there's no sense of unity and it's either kill or be killed. Weaker Voidsent either serve the strong or live in constant hiding so that they aren't eaten by stronger Voidsent, which is their biggest fear.
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* The first tier of Pandæmonium had already floated the idea that some other forces was messing with the minds of the warders within the facility, as seen when discussing Hesperos' turn from a kindly mentor to an obsessive and twisted evil. The continuation in Abyssos furthers this while adding on doses of BodyHorror unseen in Hesperos with the introduction of his female coworkers, Hegemone and Agdistis. Hegemone still retains most of her form, though she is crawling with vines and slime, including a large toothy mouthed vine protuding from her shoulder and a large spike from the other, however Agdistis was not as fortunate, being fused with a large tree covered in eyes and mouths along its trunk, and what remains of the poor woman is her upper body embedded into the trunk with her face frozen in an expression of horror.

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* The first tier of Pandæmonium had already floated the idea that some other forces was messing with the minds of the warders within the facility, as seen when discussing Hesperos' turn from a kindly mentor to an obsessive and twisted evil. The continuation in Abyssos furthers this while adding on doses of BodyHorror unseen in Hesperos with the introduction of his female coworkers, Hegemone and Agdistis. Hegemone still retains most of her form, though she is crawling with vines parasites and slime, including a large toothy mouthed vine protuding parasitic organism protruding from her shoulder and a large spike spiked wing from the other, however Agdistis other. Agdistis, meanwhile, was not as fortunate, being fused with a large tree covered in eyes and mouths along its trunk, and what to the point where all that remains of the poor woman is her upper body torso embedded into the trunk trunk, with her face frozen in an expression of horror.
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* The [=NieR Re[in]carnation=] crossover event goes into further detail on what Emet-Selch experienced after the sundering. When the world was sundered by Venat, all of the inhabitants were reduced to mere shapeless blobs of aether that could do nothing but [[AndIMustScream moan in pain]]. Not only did Emet-Selch saw his people get reduced to husks of their former selves, this also included his dear friend Azem (who would become the [[PlayerCharacter Warrior of Light]] in the present time). While the sundered eventually managed to reform and take on the shape of the people seen today, Emet-Selch sees them as completely unrecognizable from the people and friends he used to know. It's little wonder that the Ascian became the dour man the Scions see him as.

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* The [=NieR Re[in]carnation=] crossover event goes into further detail on what Emet-Selch experienced after the sundering. When the world was sundered by Venat, all of the inhabitants were reduced to mere shapeless blobs of aether that could do nothing but [[AndIMustScream moan in pain]]. Not only did Emet-Selch saw his people get reduced to husks of their former selves, this also included his dear friend Azem (who would become the [[PlayerCharacter Warrior of Light]] in the present time). While the sundered eventually managed to reform and take on the shape of the people seen today, Emet-Selch sees them as completely unrecognizable from the people and friends he used to know. Another terrible part is that the main reason for it is not only modern mankind's ignorance, but first and foremost its penchant for wars and causing each others endless misery due to their conflicts, and in the end it's even what gives the Ascians the idea to cause Chaos to hasten the rejoining. It's little wonder that the Ascian became the dour man the Scions see him as.
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* The first tier of Pandæmonium had already floated the idea that some other forces was messing with the minds of the warders within the facility, as seen when discussing Hesperos' turn from a kindly mentor to an obsessive and twisted evil. The continuation in Abyssos furthers this while adding on doses of BodyHorror unseen in Hesperos with the introduction of his female coworkers, Hegemone and Agdistis. Hegemone still retains most of her form, though she is crawling with vines and slime, including a large toothy mouthed vine protuding from her shoulder and a large spike from the other, however Agdistis was not as fortunate, being fused with a large tree covered in eyes and mouths along its trunk, and what remains of the poor woman is her upper body embedded into the trunk with her face frozen in an expression of horror.
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* After completing 6.2's main scenario quests, a sidequest opens in which a friendly Hecteyes goes into details on the [[StartOfDarkness pasts of Scarmiglione and Barbariccia before they became voidsent, and how they were recruited as Golbez's archfiends]].
** Scarmiglione was once a miqo'te base commander who was BuriedAlive as punishment for [[DirtyCoward hiding]] when all of the soldiers under his command died defending a fortress from an eidolon. Though he survives and manages to claw his way out of his would-be grave, he ended up terrifying everyone who saw him dig himself up, not helped by the fact that he didn't acknowledge anyone else and walked off muttering like a madman.
** Barbariccia was an elezen noblewoman whose father was [[GildedCage incredibly abusive and controlling, keeping her trapped in their house]]. One night, she snuck out of her home to visit friends, only to have her father show up and admit to her that he ''killed her friends and dumped their corpses into a river''. Enraged, she picked up a hatchet and spent the rest of the night beating him to death with it. The last we see of her father, he has the axe ''embedded in his skull''.

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->''"And lo, vile beasts did rise.\\
Leaving naught in their wake but blood and ash.\\
Sun scorches earth and boils seas...\\
And our sins ascend unto the heavens--\\
Three dooms to unmake all we were."''
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->''"And lo, vile beasts did rise.\\
Leaving naught in their wake but blood and ash.\\
Sun scorches earth and boils seas...\\
And our sins ascend unto the heavens--\\
Three dooms to unmake all we were."''
-->'''-- Emet-Selch'''
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This is obviously more complicated than just "eliminating" creations, and is discussed about in-game as well.


* The Unsundered Ascian themselves are shown to be displaying a certain disturbing BlueAndOrangeMorality despite the utopian facade. They eliminate their creations if they are "unfit" for their star. But instead of, say, inanimate broken furniture or some fictional writing that need to be scrapped, they are destroying ''fully sentient living beings'' that ''they created themselves''. While culling overly-carnivorous species might be understandable, killing a creature just because "it was born wrong" is much harder to justify. It is this irresponsible mindset that gnaws away at Hermes long before Meteion's report finally sends him over the edge.

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* The Unsundered Ascian Ancients themselves are shown to be displaying a certain disturbing BlueAndOrangeMorality despite the utopian facade.aspect of their society. They eliminate their creations if they are "unfit" for their star. But instead of, say, inanimate broken furniture or some fictional writing that need to be scrapped, they are destroying ''fully sentient living beings'' that ''they created themselves''. While culling overly-carnivorous species might be understandable, killing a creature just because "it was born wrong" is much harder to justify. it can still come across as cold-hearted and disturbing. It is this irresponsible mindset that gnaws away at Hermes long before Meteion's report finally sends him over the edge.edge. On the other hand, the researchers are very careful over this decision, and also put a point on making sure if a creation is an arcane entity, or has become a living being by being inhabited by a soul. While they're more ignorant over their creations' feelings, they're still not doing this blindly, and are shown to mourn and pray for the souls of the creations that have become living beings and have to be returned to the star (Hythlodaeus is an example of this, praying for a creature that the party had to kill in Ktisis Hyperboreia).
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* The [=NieR Re[in]carnation=] crossover event goes into further detail on what Emet-Selch experienced after the sundering. When the world was sundered by Venat, all of the inhabitants were reduced to mere shapeless blobs of aether that could do nothing but [[AndIMustScream moan in pain]]. Not only did Emet-Selch saw his people get reduced to husks of their former selves, this also included his dear friend Azem (who would become the [[PlayerCharacter Warrior of Light]] in the present time). While the sundered eventually managed to reform and take on the shape of the people seen today, Emet-Selch sees them as completely unrecognizable from the people and friends he used to know. It's little wonder that the Ascian became the dour man the Scions see him as.
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** One particularly horrid scene during the attack on Radz-at-Han has a Blasphemy corner a terrified mother and her equally terrified infant daughter. The Blasphemy proceeds to grab the mother by the head, [[NeckSnap snap her neck]], and then throw her corpse ''[[AdultFear which is still holding the baby]]'' into a nearby pool of water. Only the quick intervention of the Warrior of Light and Vrtra saves the child's life. When you examine the mother's body, the narration [[SarcasmMode helpfully]] exposits that her final moments were spent in unimaginable agony, and that the only solace is that it was a quick death.

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** One particularly horrid scene during the attack on Radz-at-Han has a Blasphemy corner a terrified mother and her equally terrified infant daughter. The Blasphemy proceeds to grab the mother by the head, [[NeckSnap snap her neck]], and then throw her corpse ''[[AdultFear which ''which is still holding the baby]]'' baby'' into a nearby pool of water. Only the quick intervention of the Warrior of Light and Vrtra saves the child's life. When you examine the mother's body, the narration [[SarcasmMode helpfully]] exposits that her final moments were spent in unimaginable agony, and that the only solace is that it was a quick death.

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* While framed as a fairly goofy event during and after the duty, All Saint's Wake 2022 sees the Warrior of Light saving the souls of at least 50 unwitting people from being sacrificed to wraiths by [[MonsterClown Papa Gruff]]. While the man himself isn't terribly capable of harming the Warrior of Light thanks to a few provisions provided beforehand, the sheer number of victims he's almost able to wrack up despite being presented as a gag villain is rather surprising. Worse yet, he, his wife, and child manage to escape, with the implication that they will manage to entrap even more people as the event goes on, though the Adventurer's Guild is at least making pains to pre-empt his attempts at building up more victims.
* It's thankfully a WhatIf scenario, but in The Dragonsong's Reprise, had you been able to save Haurchefant from his fate, things would have taken a worse turn. Without that motive for revenge, the Warrior of Light could have been complacent in pursuing Thordan and the Heavens' Ward to Azys Lla. As a result, they get them ample time to figure out the Allagan technology housed up there, then use it to ''subjugate'' the Dragons instead of slay them, siccing them on you on top of having to deal with him and his knights. Had things play out that way instead, it would have been a far bloodier end to the Dragonsong War.
** In addition to this more bleak turn to the war, Hraesvelgr is made to fight alongside Nidhogg, and ''is fully aware of their actions as they attack the party.'' It's made clear that in this state, they do not wish to harm anyone, because of the vow made to Shiva to never harm mortals. This is exemplified with the fact that, if anyone dies because of Hraesvelgr's actions during this portion of the fight, Hraesvelgr flies into a rage, wiping the party because they failed to uphold the vow.

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* While framed as a fairly goofy event during and after the duty, All Saint's Wake 2022 sees the Warrior of Light saving the souls of at least 50 unwitting people from being sacrificed to wraiths by [[MonsterClown Papa Gruff]]. While the man himself isn't terribly capable of harming the Warrior of Light thanks to a few provisions provided beforehand, the sheer number of victims he's almost able to wrack rack up despite being presented as a gag villain is rather surprising. Worse yet, he, his wife, and child manage to escape, with the implication that they will manage to entrap even more people as the event goes on, though the Adventurer's Guild is at least making pains to pre-empt his attempts at building up more victims.
* It's thankfully only a WhatIf scenario, but in The Dragonsong's Reprise, had it is suggested that ''had'' you been able to save Haurchefant from his fate, HeroicSacrifice, things would have taken a turned out much, much worse turn. for just about everybody ''else''.
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Without that motive for revenge, Haurchefant's death as a motivator, the Warrior of Light could may have been complacent in pursuing taken longer to pursue Thordan and the Heavens' Ward to Azys Lla. As a result, they get them ample time to figure out acquire the Allagan technology housed up there, there and potentially also the power of the Warring Triad, which Thordan then use it uses to ''subjugate'' ''temper'' the Dragons dragons instead of slay outright slaying them, siccing them on you on top of having to deal with him and his knights. Had things play out that way instead, it would have been a far bloodier end adding to the Dragonsong War.
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** In addition to this more bleak turn to the war, this, when Nidhogg attacks Ishgard, he brings ''Hraesvelgr'' with him, enslaved by Allagan neurolinks. And Hraesvelgr is made to fight alongside Nidhogg, and ''is fully aware of their actions as they attack his own actions, and powerless to stop himself from attacking. He outright begs the party.'' It's made clear that in this state, they do party not wish to harm anyone, because of let him break the vow he made to Shiva to never harm mortals. This is exemplified with the fact that, - and if anyone dies because of Hraesvelgr's actions during this portion of to his attacks, breaking that vow, he ''loses his mind'' with rage and grief and wipes the fight, Hraesvelgr flies into a rage, wiping the party because they failed party. All while unable to uphold the vow.control himself.
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** In addition to this more bleak turn to the war, Hraesvelgr is made to fight alongside Nidhogg, and ''is fully aware of their actions as they attack the party.'' It's made clear that in this state, they do not wish to harm anyone, because of the vow made to Shiva to never harm mortals. This is exemplified with the fact that, if anyone dies because of Hraesvelgr's actions during this portion of the fight, Hraesvelgr flies into a rage, wiping the party because they failed to uphold the vow.
-->'''Hraesvelgr:''' I swore to Shiva--swore that I would not take the lives of men... Stop me, I prithee!
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* It's thankfully a WhatIf scenario, but in The Dragonsong's Reprise, had you been able to save Haurchefant from his fate, things would have taken a worse turn. Without that motive for revenge, the Warrior of Light could have been complacent in pursuing Thordan and the Heavens' Ward to Azys Lla. As a result, they get them ample time to figure out the Allagan technology housed up there, then use it to ''subjugate'' the Dragons instead of slay them, siccing them on you on top of having to deal with him and his knights. Had things play out that way instead, it would have been a far bloodier end to the Dragonsong War.
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** The whole scenario is just ''extremely'' uncomfortable at the very least. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Zenos basically forces himself onto your body without your consent, and makes it do horrible things against your will.]] For several players, this scene carries some horrible ''rape'' undertones.

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** The whole scenario is just ''extremely'' uncomfortable at the very least. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Zenos basically forces himself onto your body without your consent, and makes it do horrible things against your will.]] For several players, this scene carries carried some horrible ''rape'' undertones. undertones, and made them go from annoyance towards Zenos, to utterly '''''[[ItsPersonal murderous]]''''' '''''[[ThisIsUnforgivable hatred]]''''' of him.

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** Regardless of how much time is left on the clock, by the time you finally make it back to the camp, Zenos is mere nanoseconds from attacking Alisae and G'raha. Had the Warrior of Light been but a second longer, two of their closest friends would be dead by ''their own hand''.
* "Remember when I told you I wanted to die, and take everyone with me? I meant it."

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** Regardless of how much time is left on the clock, by the time you finally make it back to the camp, Zenos is mere nanoseconds from attacking Alisae Alisaie and G'raha. Had the Warrior of Light been but a second longer, two of their closest friends would be dead by ''their own hand''.
** As your soul starts leaving the imperial soldier's body, Zenos looks straight at you with the ''most evil smile on your body,'' gleefully declaring that he will slaughter all of your friends for the hell of it before coming for you. The way he looks at the screen also makes it look like he's ''[[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou taunting YOU, the player.]]''
** The whole scenario is just ''extremely'' uncomfortable at the very least. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Zenos basically forces himself onto your body without your consent, and makes it do horrible things against your will.]] For several players, this scene carries some horrible ''rape'' undertones.
* "Remember when I told you I wanted to die, and take everyone with me? I '''''I meant it.""'''''
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* The Unsundered Ascian themselves is shown be displaying a certain disturbing BlueAndOrangeMorality despite the utopian facade. They eliminate the creations if it is "unfit" for their star. But instead of, say, inanimate broken furniture or some fictional writing that need to be scrapped, they are destroying ''fully sentient living beings'' that ''they created themselves''. While culling overly-carnivorous species might be understandable, killing a creature just because "it was born wrong" is much harder to justify. It is this irresponsible mindset that gnaws away at Hermes long before Meteion's report finally sends him over the edge.

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* The Unsundered Ascian themselves is are shown to be displaying a certain disturbing BlueAndOrangeMorality despite the utopian facade. They eliminate the their creations if it is they are "unfit" for their star. But instead of, say, inanimate broken furniture or some fictional writing that need to be scrapped, they are destroying ''fully sentient living beings'' that ''they created themselves''. While culling overly-carnivorous species might be understandable, killing a creature just because "it was born wrong" is much harder to justify. It is this irresponsible mindset that gnaws away at Hermes long before Meteion's report finally sends him over the edge.
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** When you kill a blasphemy, what happens to the person that turns? Nothing. Rather, they turn to nothing. They don't get the repose of going to the aetherial sea, they just ''disintegrate'' to nonexistence. Y'shtola, who can only see through aether, ''can't'' see them because they're empty husks whose aether, in her words, crumbled away like dry mud.

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** When you kill a blasphemy, what happens to the person that turns? Nothing. Rather, they turn to nothing. They don't get the repose of going to the aetherial sea, they just ''disintegrate'' to nonexistence. Y'shtola, who can only see through aether, ''can't'' see them because they're empty husks whose aether, in her words, crumbled away like dry mud. The dire straits of the situation is underlined by the fact that [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness she's deathly silent when taken into Vanaspati]], unable to express her unflappable snark.

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->''"The sky burns."''

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->''"The sky burns."''->''"And lo, vile beasts did rise.\\
Leaving naught in their wake but blood and ash.\\
Sun scorches earth and boils seas...\\
And our sins ascend unto the heavens--\\
Three dooms to unmake all we were."''
-->'''-- Emet-Selch'''
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* [[spoiler:"Remember when I told you I wanted to die, and take everyone with me? I meant it.]]

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* [[spoiler:"Remember "Remember when I told you I wanted to die, and take everyone with me? I meant it.]]"
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* On the topic of elimination, Hermes having AdultFear moment when Emet-Selch demands Meteion to be contained and evaluated, with failure to meet Ascians' qualification possibly ending in a girl who is practically Hermes' ''daughter'' killed.
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* The Unsundered Ascian themselves is shown be displaying a certain disturbing BlueAndOrangeMorality despite the utopian facade. They eliminate the creations if it is "unfit" for their star. But instead of, say, inanimate broken furniture or some fictional writing that need to be scrapped, they are destroying ''fully sentient living beings'' that ''they created themselves''. While culling overly-carnivorous species might be understandable, killing a creature just because "it was born wrong" is much harder to justify. It is this irresponsible mindset that gnaws away at Hermes long before Meteion's report finally sends him over the edge.
* On the topic of elimination, Hermes having AdultFear moment when Emet-Selch demands Meteion to be contained and evaluated, with failure to meet Ascians' qualification possibly ending in a girl who is practically Hermes' ''daughter'' killed.

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