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** The whole scenario is just ''extremely'' uncomfortable at the very least. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Zenos basically forces himself onto your body without your consent, and makes it do horrible things against your will.]] For several players, the scene carries utterly horrific undertones of '''''[[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rape]]''''', and changes their perspective of Zenos from an annoying pest, to a completely and utterly ''disgusting and depraved stalker.''

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** The whole scenario is just ''extremely'' uncomfortable at the very least. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Zenos basically forces himself onto your body without your consent, and makes it do horrible things against your will.]] For several players, the scene carries utterly horrific undertones of '''''[[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rape]]''''', and changes their perspective of Zenos from an annoying pest, to a completely and utterly ''disgusting and depraved stalker.stalker,'' which also paints the above scene as a ''rapist taunting his victim.''
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** The whole scenario is just ''extremely'' uncomfortable at the very least. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Zenos basically forces himself onto your body without your consent, and makes it do horrible things against your will.]] For several players, this scene carried some horrible ''rape'' undertones, and made them go from annoyance towards Zenos, to utterly '''''[[ItsPersonal murderous]]''''' '''''[[ThisIsUnforgivable hatred]]''''' of him.
* "Remember when I told you I wanted to die, and take everyone with me? '''''I meant it."'''''

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** The whole scenario is just ''extremely'' uncomfortable at the very least. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Zenos basically forces himself onto your body without your consent, and makes it do horrible things against your will.]] For several players, this the scene carried some horrible ''rape'' undertones, and made them go from annoyance towards Zenos, to carries utterly '''''[[ItsPersonal murderous]]''''' '''''[[ThisIsUnforgivable hatred]]''''' horrific undertones of him.
'''''[[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rape]]''''', and changes their perspective of Zenos from an annoying pest, to a completely and utterly ''disgusting and depraved stalker.''
* "Remember when I told you I wanted to die, and take everyone with me? '''''I meant it."'''''"''''' Once Zodiark's seals are undone, Fandaniel proceeds to take control of him and immediately goes on the offensive.
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** This whole scenario puts TheStinger of ''Shadowbringers'' in a new light. Not too long ago, Zenos was in the exact same situation the Warrior of Light is in, and yet even in the body of a lowly soldier, he was ''still'' able to defeat Elidibus and force him to flee for his life. While Zenos did have the benefit of possessing an Eorzean and thus could manipulate aether, giving him a bit more of an advantage than the Warrior of Light, it really shows just how monstrously powerful Zenos has become since ''Stormblood''.

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** This whole scenario puts TheStinger of ''Shadowbringers'' in a new light. Not too long ago, Zenos was in the exact same situation the Warrior of Light is in, and yet even in the body of a lowly soldier, he was ''still'' able to defeat Elidibus and force him to flee for his life. While Zenos did have the benefit of possessing an Eorzean and thus could manipulate aether, giving him a bit more of an advantage than the Warrior of Light, it really shows just how monstrously powerful Zenos has become since ''Stormblood''. What makes this doubly frightening is what Zenos could have been capable of doing had he not been stopped in time; Zenos on his own is already powerful enough, but him having the absurd power that the Warrior of Light has in addition? No one would be able to stop him.
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** During the boss fight with her Sepharim-inspired divine form, Theos, the highly melodic and upbeat boss music turns malicious and insidious if you actually pay attention to the lyrics. In a stark contrast to the boss music of the "Myths of the Realm" raid which consists of the Twelve's worshipers singing in joy, this is clearly Athena singing her own song with lyrics that define her obsession for knowledge of all things and power over all, that the sun is setting on creation and all its people, to be replaced and perfected under her hand. She even goes on to refute the existence of all mortals, stating they were "never once truly alive" and as such they are alone with no gods to hear their prayers and hopes, its time to say goodnight as she'll use them as fodder for her perfect existence and new chosen people. All while the song continues to be appealing rhythmic.

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** During the boss fight with her Sepharim-inspired divine form, Theos, the highly melodic and upbeat boss music turns malicious and insidious if you actually pay attention to the lyrics. In a stark contrast to the boss music of the "Myths of the Realm" raid which consists of the Twelve's worshipers singing in joy, this is clearly Athena singing her own song with lyrics that define her obsession for knowledge of all things and power over all, that the sun is setting on creation and all its people, to be replaced and perfected under her hand. She even goes on to refute the existence of all mortals, stating they were "never once truly alive" and as such they are alone with no gods to hear their prayers and hopes, its time to say goodnight as she'll use them as fodder for her perfect existence and new chosen people. [[LyricalDissonance All while the song continues to be appealing rhythmic.]]
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** Then there's the final phase, Dragon-king Thordan. The power of an elder primal is one thing. The power of one tyrannical madman powered by a millennia of prayer, the power of an (unsundered!) Ascian, and ''both'' the eyes of Nidhogg and Hraesvelgr, is one whole other doomsday scenario. Consider this actually happening in ''Heavensward'' proper, where the Warrior of Light only had just reawakened their Blessing of Light, and didn't have all the experiences until ''Endwalker''. Ishgard was this close to winning the Dragonsong War with catastrophic consequences, with the Warrior of Light probably being a mere footnote in history.
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* Even with the Endsinger's defeat, it doesn't [[NoOntologicalInertia kill all the remaining blasphemies]], which gets acknowledged if you do the role quests post MSQ. Even with the world saved from destruction, there can still be some blasphemies wandering around and potentially still causing damage or killing people that no one else knows about.

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* Athena's psychopathic words are matched by her expressions, there's just nothing behind her eyes and her body language is very off-putting which is perfectly inline as she talks about people like tools and their value based solely on their utility to her, even when it comes to family. Ofcourse special note is the scene where she is leaning over, her head tilted staring with wide empty eyes and a blank smile at the screen.
** During the boss fight with her Sepharim-inspired divine form, Theos, the highly melodic and upbeat boss music turns malicious and insidious if you pay attention to the lyrics. In a stark contrast to the boss music of the "Myths of the Realm" raid which consists of the Twelve's worshipers singing in joy, this is clearly Athena singing her own song with lyrics that define her obsession for knowledge of all things and power over all, that the sun is setting on creation and all people, to be replaced and perfected under her hand. She even goes on to refute all people, stating they were "never once truly alive" and as such they are alone with no gods to hear their prayers and hopes, its time to say goodnight. All while continuing to be rhythmic and appealing.

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* Athena's psychopathic words dialogue are matched by her expressions, there's just nothing behind her eyes and her eyes. Her body language is very off-putting which is and perfectly inline with her words as she talks speaks about people like tools and implies their value is based solely on their utility to her, even when it comes to family. Ofcourse Of special note is the scene where she is leaning over, her head tilted staring with wide empty eyes and a blank smile at the screen.
** During the boss fight with her Sepharim-inspired divine form, Theos, the highly melodic and upbeat boss music turns malicious and insidious if you actually pay attention to the lyrics. In a stark contrast to the boss music of the "Myths of the Realm" raid which consists of the Twelve's worshipers singing in joy, this is clearly Athena singing her own song with lyrics that define her obsession for knowledge of all things and power over all, that the sun is setting on creation and all its people, to be replaced and perfected under her hand. She even goes on to refute the existence of all people, mortals, stating they were "never once truly alive" and as such they are alone with no gods to hear their prayers and hopes, its time to say goodnight. goodnight as she'll use them as fodder for her perfect existence and new chosen people. All while continuing the song continues to be rhythmic and appealing.appealing rhythmic.
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* Athena's psychopathic words are matched by her expressions, there's just nothing behind her eyes and her body language is very off-putting which is perfectly inline as she talks about people like tools and their value based solely on their utility to her, even when it comes to family. Ofcourse special note is the scene where she is leaning over, her head tilted staring with wide empty eyes and a blank smile at the screen.
** During the boss fight with her Sepharim-inspired divine form, Theos, the highly melodic and upbeat boss music turns malicious and insidious if you pay attention to the lyrics. In a stark contrast to the boss music of the "Myths of the Realm" raid which consists of the Twelve's worshipers singing in joy, this is clearly Athena singing her own song with lyrics that define her obsession for knowledge of all things and power over all, that the sun is setting on creation and all people, to be replaced and perfected under her hand. She even goes on to refute all people, stating they were "never once truly alive" and as such they are alone with no gods to hear their prayers and hopes, its time to say goodnight. All while continuing to be rhythmic and appealing.
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** If anything, the [[TheDreaded Warrior of Light's reputation]] becomes liability in the later expansions: before the events of A Realm Reborn, the Garleans regarded Eorzeans as primitive savages destined to be sooner or later subjugated like the rest of the conquered nations. By the time the Ilsabard contingent reaches Garlemald, thanks to the [[OneManArmy WoL]] and their Scions companions decimating the Garlean legions everywhere they set foot, the Eorzeans are now seen as [[TheHorde a murderous barbaric horde]] about to plunder the weakened Garlean nation, to the point that civilians start -to the shock and horror of [[TheIdealist the Leveilleur twins]]- regarding suicidal flights into the frozen wilderness as preferable than staying in the vincinity of Eorzeans. Being the Empire's bogeyman doesn't feel that satisfying when one's mere ''presence'' suffices to cause the senseless death of innocents.
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** And this isn't even getting into the revelations of their origins at the end of ''Stormblood'', that mean their overarching goals for domination and their sense of self and pride is all one gigantic Ascian machination to control the world and cause further calamities. ''All of this horrible suffering is intentional and deliberate, and only a couple people ever knew.'' Varis himself ends up being the LesserOfTwoEvils, and that isn't saying much considering he's the one behind a chemical weapon that can, and in a BadFuture ''does'', end the world, and prefaces his independent motives from Elidibus' by proclaiming he'll make a world of only [[ANaziByAnyOtherName one true super race]] by any means necessary.

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** And this isn't even getting into the revelations of their origins at the end of ''Stormblood'', that mean their overarching goals for domination and their sense of self and pride is all one gigantic Ascian machination to control the world and cause further calamities. ''All of this horrible suffering is intentional and deliberate, and only a couple people ever knew.'' Varis himself ends up being the LesserOfTwoEvils, and that isn't saying much considering he's the one behind a chemical weapon that can, and in a BadFuture ''does'', end the world, and prefaces his independent motives from Elidibus' by proclaiming he'll make a world of only [[ANaziByAnyOtherName one true super master race]] by any means necessary.
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** Golbez also remarks that Zeromus requires time to fully awaken before it can attempt to shatter the boundary between the Source and Thirteenth. Zeromus was [[NoSell deflecting powerful blows that would fell most voidsent]] and [[TheCorruption easily overpowering the protective wards that made entering the Thirteenth even remotely possible]], and this is Zeromus supposedly ''at a fraction of its full power.'' This entire situation is becoming an uphill battle in the attempt to rescue Azdaja.
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* 6.4 ends with the worst case scenario: After strongarming your way back to the Void, the one you came for, Azdaja, was corrupted into becoming the Shadow Dragon by Golbez. Not even beating him was enough to stop him, as he sacrifices Azdaja into the chasm to awaken ''Zeromus''. As Golbez puts it succinctly, we may have won the battle, but right now, he's winning in this war. And right now, there's nothing to be done but retreat. There is the glimmer of hope that she can yet be saved due to the Void preventing true death, but that glimmer is incredibly dim.

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* 6.4 ends with the worst case scenario: After strongarming your way back to the Void, the one you came for, Azdaja, was corrupted into becoming the Shadow Dragon by Golbez. Not even beating him was enough to stop him, as he sacrifices Azdaja into the chasm to awaken ''Zeromus''.''Zeromus'' the final boss of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' and a powerful voidsent. As Golbez puts it succinctly, we may have won the battle, but right now, he's winning in this war. And right now, there's nothing to be done but retreat. There is the glimmer of hope that she can yet be saved due to the Void preventing true death, but that glimmer is incredibly dim.
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* 6.4 ends with the worst case scenario: After strongarming your way back to the Void, the one you came for, Azdaja, was corrupted into becoming the Shadow Dragon by Golbez. Not even beating him was enough to stop him, as he sacrifices Azdaja into the chasm to awaken ''Zeromus''. As Golbez puts it succinctly, we may have won the battle, but right now, he's winning in this war. And right now, there's nothing to be done until then.

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* 6.4 ends with the worst case scenario: After strongarming your way back to the Void, the one you came for, Azdaja, was corrupted into becoming the Shadow Dragon by Golbez. Not even beating him was enough to stop him, as he sacrifices Azdaja into the chasm to awaken ''Zeromus''. As Golbez puts it succinctly, we may have won the battle, but right now, he's winning in this war. And right now, there's nothing to be done until then.but retreat. There is the glimmer of hope that she can yet be saved due to the Void preventing true death, but that glimmer is incredibly dim.
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\n* 6.4 ends with the worst case scenario: After strongarming your way back to the Void, the one you came for, Azdaja, was corrupted into becoming the Shadow Dragon by Golbez. Not even beating him was enough to stop him, as he sacrifices Azdaja into the chasm to awaken ''Zeromus''. As Golbez puts it succinctly, we may have won the battle, but right now, he's winning in this war. And right now, there's nothing to be done until then.
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** And this isn't even getting into the revelations of their origins at the end of ''Stormblood'', that mean their overarching goals for domination and their sense of self and pride is all one gigantic Ascian machination to control the world and cause further calamities. ''All of this horrible suffering is intentional and deliberate, and only a couple people ever knew.'' Varis himself ends up being the LesserOfTwoEvils, and that isn't saying much considering he's the one behind a chemical weapon that can, and in a BadFuture ''does'', end the world.

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** And this isn't even getting into the revelations of their origins at the end of ''Stormblood'', that mean their overarching goals for domination and their sense of self and pride is all one gigantic Ascian machination to control the world and cause further calamities. ''All of this horrible suffering is intentional and deliberate, and only a couple people ever knew.'' Varis himself ends up being the LesserOfTwoEvils, and that isn't saying much considering he's the one behind a chemical weapon that can, and in a BadFuture ''does'', end the world.world, and prefaces his independent motives from Elidibus' by proclaiming he'll make a world of only [[ANaziByAnyOtherName one true super race]] by any means necessary.
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* During the echo flashback when Fandaniel's true origins are revealed, the player is given a glimpse at the DeadlyDecadentCourt that the Allagan Empire was, as you hear about experiment where an unsuspecting man was [[BodyHorror given the head of a bull]] for ENTERTAINMENT. The noble even gleefully recalls the [[AndIMustScream man attempting to scream in terror and only managing guttural growling.]] The entire affair is so brief, and overshadowed by the other horrors in the expansion yet its horror so much more horrific because of the sheer cruelty. This was the man chosen to become Fandaniel.

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* During the echo flashback when Fandaniel's true origins are revealed, the player is given a glimpse at the DeadlyDecadentCourt that the Allagan Empire was, as you was. You get to hear about an experiment where an unsuspecting man was [[BodyHorror given the head of a bull]] for ENTERTAINMENT. The noble even gleefully recalls the [[AndIMustScream man attempting to scream in terror and only managing guttural growling.]] The entire affair is so brief, and overshadowed by the other horrors in the expansion yet its horror so much more horrific because of the sheer cruelty. This was the man chosen by Emet-Selch to become Fandaniel.
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* During the echo flashback when Fandaniel's true origins are revealed, the player is given a glimpse at the DeadlyDecadentCourt that the Allagan Empire was, as you hear about experiment where an unsuspecting man was [[BodyHorror given the head of a bull]] for ENTERTAINMENT. The noble even gleefully recalls the [[AndIMustScream man attempting to scream in terror and only managing guttural growling.]] The entire affair is so brief, and overshadowed by the other horrors in the expansion yet its horror so much more horrific because of the sheer cruelty. This was the man chosen to become Fandaniel.

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\n* TheReveal of Golbez's plans, which isn't simply conquering a planet or anything like what seems to be a GreaterScopeVillain controlling his actions so far: to invade and conquer the Source, which would be tantamount to a calamity of a war between its denizens and the Thirteenth's Voidsent, all so that [[DeathSeeker they can finally die and be properly returned to the Lifestream.]] This is the first villain who isn't just banking on interference and expecting a battle; he ''wants'' the heroes to do what they do best, albeit [[VillainsActHeroesReact to the beck and call of his machinations]], so that he can finally end his people's eternal suffering once and for all, and to hell with all the possible lost lives in the process.
** If it isn't bad enough, the end of 6.3's story has a WhamShot of the throne area Golbez sits within: the equivalent hole in the moon to the Source that presumably holds a sundered remnant of Zodiark. Golbez effectively sits on a fragment of a dead god and ''might just have what he needs to use it.''

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\n** The darkness of the thirteenth is Darkness aspected aether, but it is highly unstable and unsuited for consumption. It is like with how the Sin Eaters couldn't feed of the Aether in the empty, and had to hunt living things for Aether instead. It isn't that the Aether of the void is gone; It is that is in a form that makes it unsuitable for life.

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* The Darkness itself in the Void. It clearly isn't Aether, because if it WAS, why would the Voidsent be starving? However, it can corrupt, and easily at that. The Light was produced by Eden in the 1st... What monstrosity is producing the Darkness? Or is it just its own being entirely?

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*** Not only that, but it was hinted that at least in the last world of prosperity and peace, Meteion asking her question lead to the inhabitants [[GoMadFromTheRevelation second guessing]] everything they knew on what made them happy and gave life purpose,deciding death was preferable.
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--> '''Meteion:''' True salvation lies in not in dying. It lies in not being born.

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--> '''Meteion:''' True salvation lies in not in dying. It lies in not being born.



* The song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRQN2VxZH_k "Answers - Reprise"]] is a short version of "Answers", but with a strong echo and reverb added to the lyrics. The song itself is already pretty intense with the lyrics alone, but having the song play with the added effects just adds to the creepy factor as if you know something terrible is going to happen. The song usually just plays during The Rising event as a tribute to everything that happened before the fall of Dalamud in 1.0, however, it also plays after Illberd begins the summoning of Shinryu, whom he explicitly states to be even stronger than Bahamut. The developers intentionally made the scene similar to events of the Calamity that led to the chaos that was Bahamut, song and all.

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* The song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRQN2VxZH_k com/watch?v=DX7Doyjkrag "Answers - Reprise"]] is a short version of "Answers", but with a strong echo and reverb added to the lyrics. The song itself is already pretty intense with the lyrics alone, but having the song play with the added effects just adds to the creepy factor as if you know something terrible is going to happen. The song usually just plays during The Rising event as a tribute to everything that happened before the fall of Dalamud in 1.0, however, it also plays after Illberd begins the summoning of Shinryu, whom he explicitly states to be even stronger than Bahamut. The developers intentionally made the scene similar to events of the Calamity that led to the chaos that was Bahamut, song and all.

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