History MoralEventHorizon / VideoGames

** [[EnfantTerrible Bowser Jr.]] crosses it himself in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosWonder'', where in the fourth world, he steals most of the Sunbaked Desert's water supply, leaving the local residents in danger of wilting from dehydration.

** The Chancellor to King Guardia XXXIII almost crosses the MEH when he accuses [[TheHero Crono]] of kidnapping Marle[[spoiler:/Princess Nadia]], puts him on trial, tricks the prison warden into believing Crono was found guilty even if he is found innocent, and sentences him to death by execution; but you could make the argument that the Chancellor is a WellIntentionedExtremist who is taking his duty to protect Marle way too seriously. That is, until he later takes advantage of the strained relationship between Marle and her father by lying to her about how her mother died, telling her that her father refused to see her in her final moments and that "one could say he killed her". At this moment, it is clear that the Chancellor [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist has no good intentions]]. [[spoiler:[[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]; he's actually Yakra XIII, who has been plotting against Crono and Marle's family ever since they defeated his distant ancestor in 600 A.D.. Yakra XIII captured the real Chancellor and has been impersonating him all along, and the real Chancellor is an honest legal judge.]]

* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'': While Ganondorf has too many agency issues to really cross the line, the same cannot be said for the following:

** ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheOrigamiKing'': If you somehow don’t believe that [[KnightOfCerebus King Olly]] already crossed this when he painfully forced and transformed Princess Peach and all of Bowser’s minions into his Folded Soldiers by literally '''stapling''' them into his soldiers or when he put all of the Toads in the Mushroom Kingom in an AndIMustScream situation OR when he literally CRUSHED his sister, [[spoiler: and also technically his daughter]], with a giant boulder in an attempt to brutally murder her then you’ll definitely believe that he finally crossed it when he morphed Peach into a '''stained glass window''' and basically KILLED her because of it and decided to use the one-thousandth paper origami crane to [[FinalSolution kill all Toads in existence]] just because [[spoiler: his creator [[DisproportionateRetribution drew a mere scribble on him]]. That’s right. Olly wanted to commit GENOCIDE on an entire race just because one of said races’ members ''drew on him''.]] Even during his RedemptionEqualsDeath moment, he himself realizes that he has gone too far and cannot come back from all of this and wishes for Olivia to use his dead body as the one-thousandth crane and use it to undo all of his horrific atrocities.
*** In the same game, there is also [[AnimateInanimateObject Scissors]] who ''definitely'' crossed this when it not only sliced up [[WouldHurtAChild Bowser Jr.]] and the rest of Bowser’s minions into a bunch of pieces, but also put many of the minions’ sliced up '''faces''' onto the [[BodyOfBodies Paper Mistake Buzzy Beetle]].

** [[EnfantTerrible Bowser Jr.]] crosses it himself in ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosWonder'', where in the forth world, he steals most of the Sunbaked Desert's water supply, leaving the local residents in danger of wilting from dehydration.

* An evil PlayerCharacter in ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights2'' usually comes across as a CardCarryingVillain or a [[TheBrute brutish thug]], and doesn't really get an opportunity to do anything truly evil… until the end-game. Then it becomes a question of not "did they cross the line", but "''when'' did they cross the line". [[spoiler:It could be when you quite cheerfully turn on all your former comrades, brutally kill them, and then bring them back to life as twisted undead [[FateWorseThanDeath so they can serve you and the King of Shadows forever]]. It could be when you lead legions of demons and the undead against Neverwinter and turn half the Sword Coast into a CrapsackWorld. Or it could be when you capture your foster father after he sets out to avenge you, torture him to death, then bring him back to life so you can do it all over again for your personal amusement]]. And the worst part is that [[DesignatedHero everyone remembers you as a hero]], because [[spoiler:they didn't recognize you when you conquered them and thought you'd been slain by the "new general" (you) because s/he had your sword and cape]].

** ''VideoGame/AceCombat7SkiesUnknown'' brings us the two Erusean splinter factions, the Radicals and Conservatives, who, when [[spoiler: global communications collapse, immediately begin fighting amongst themselves and targeting anyone who is not on their side, ''including civilians.'' The Radicals specifically target ''their country's own crown princess'' simply because [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness she was no longer of use to them]] as a PR figurehead to drum up support for the war. The Conservatives initially seem to be the good guys, but then turn out to be not so different when Osean forces on Tyler Island discover the bodies of civilians, including '''''children''''' who had been executed by the Conservatives.]]
*** The DLC gives us Mattias Torres, a charismatic but [[InsaneAdmiral few-guns-short-of-a-Stonehenge]] Erusean Captain who initially seems ready to cross the MEH right off the bat [[spoiler: by intending to nuke the Osean capital of Oured, if not for his justification that such a horrible event would [[WellIntentionedExtremist end the war between Osea and Erusea,]] [[TheNeedsOfTheMany saving millions more.]] [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist However,]] as the battle with him drags on and his [[VillainousBreakdown sanity begins to erode,]] it becomes clear his ''real'' motivations for the attack have nothing to do with ending the war but are part of his [[NightmareFetishist fetishistic]] obsession for death and carnage, and really just wants to achieve the act of killing a million people from 5,000 kilometers away [[BloodKnight for his own satisfaction.]]]]

* ''The Player'' can cross this in ''[[VideoGame/ArmoredCore Armored Core: For Answer]]'' with the mission [[Awesome/VideoGameLevels "Destroy Cradle 03"]] -- a mission that has you destroy 5 "Cradles", huge flying cities housing '''20 Million''' people each. Your progress through the mission is kept track of by [[OmnicidalManiac Old King]] saying how many people you have killed, ending with the staggering total of 100 Million. [[ThatOneLevel The next mission]] comes from a case of WhatTheHellHero, and 4 of the game's major characters come after you in a [[ThatOneLevel final, semi-heroic last stand]] (5 on [[NintendoHard Hard Mode]], with the 5th being the female lead of the game), that will, ultimately, because you are the [[InvincibleHero main character after all]], [[KarmaHoudini end with you coming out victorious]]. And then, [[FromBadToWorse the game states that you go on to destroy the rest of the Cradles.]], and go down in history as the greatest monster mankind ever knew. Did we mention that [[KillAllHumans most of what's left of humankind is living in those cities?]]

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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins''
** The Dwarf Paragon Branka doesn't so much cross the horizon as ''fly'' across it, laughing the whole way. We find out just how completely depraved and insane Branka is when it is revealed that in order to reach the Anvil of the Void, [[spoiler:she sacrificed her entire House — three hundred plus dwarves — to the Darkspawn and allowed the women to be taken to become Broodmothers (a process that ''defines'' horror) just so she could have Darkspawn to throw at the traps surrounding the Anvil.]] The sole survivor, Hespith, explains it in simple terms:
--->'''Hespith''': ''But the true abomination... is not that it occurred, but ''that it was '''allowed'''.'' Branka... my love... The Stone has punished me, dream friend. I am dying of something worse than death... Betrayal.''
** The stories of Flemeth indicate she crossed the line into irredeemability when she started [[spoiler:[[BodySurf stealing her daughters' bodies]] [[GrandTheftMe to prolong her own life]]]].
** Arl Rendon Howe crosses it in the Human Noble origin story when he and his men slaughter his best friend's entire household, including his young grandson and helpless daughter-in-law, out of nothing more than ambition and hatred for the Couslands for opposing them when they sided with Orlais.
** Marjolaine crosses it in the [=DLC=] ''Leliana's Song'' where the player gets to see Marjolaine's betrayal of her [=friend/lover=] firsthand. When Leliana discovers Marjolaine has been committing treason against Orlais, she confronts her about it, not because she's angry at what Marjolaine's done, but because she fears for Marjolaine's safety. Marjolaine responds later on by knifing Leliana in the gut, handing her over to Captain Raleigh to be tortured (and as ''strongly'' implied, raped), and altering the document so that Orlais believes Leliana is the traitor.

* This happens in ''VideoGame/MegaManZero3'', when [[CloningBlues Copy]]-[[VideoGame/MegaManX X]] and Weil destroy a human residential area to capture the Dark Elf. Though Weil was ObviouslyEvil upon his introduction, Copy-X's previous actions[[note]]Heavy discrimination against and "retiring" innocent reploids to conserve energy so human society is mostly unaffected by the recent energy crisis[[/note]] were a bit more morally ambiguous up until now. At this point, [[HeroAntagonist Har]][[MyCountryRightOrWrong puia]] can't stand it anymore and defects from Neo Arcadia. A bit later, when Copy X and Weil contact the resistance to cooperate, [[RebelLeader Ciel]] cites this event as why they can't be trusted.

* ''VideoGame/UntilDawn'':
** Some found [[spoiler:Josh's "prank" and plan to get revenge on his friends]] very extreme, especially since Sam and Chris (who were the least involved with the prank on Hannah) bore the brunt of it and were subjected to a series of traumatizing and cruel situations that could have killed them if things went wrong.
** Depending on the player and character's point of view, either Chris or Ashley could cross this line. On one hand, Ashley can [[spoiler:lock Chris out of the lodge to be killed by a Wendigo]], should [[spoiler:Chris decide to shoot her in the second trap]]. On the other hand, Chris can intentionally choose to [[spoiler:execute the girl he likes]] ''twice'' to save someone else's life and his own life, leaving Ashley understandably wary of him.
** In-universe, the act of [[spoiler:eating human flesh]] is so monstrous that the perpetrator will [[spoiler:transform into an inhuman monster]].
** Also, in-universe, should Mike [[spoiler: shoot Emily over her bite wound]], all his relationships with the other survivors — including [[spoiler:Ashley]], the one who started the above situation — will drop to zero.
** Likewise, Ashley can choose to [[spoiler:hide the truth about Emily's bite not being infectious]]. Should she do so, it will cause her relationship stat with Sam to drop to zero.
** Emily can also potentially cross this if she pushes Ashley from behind [[spoiler:during their escape from the Wendigo and the lodge]], leaving Ashley at a higher risk of being killed. All because Ashley had [[spoiler:overreacted about Emily's bite]] and Emily will hold a grudge against her.
*** Another instance with Emily is if her relationship stat with Matt is low and she survives, she will ''lie'' to the police and say that Matt deliberately left her on the tower to die, ignoring even if the player chooses to try to save her as Matt. If Matt doesn't survive, Emily will spitefully tell the police not to bother looking for his body.

** Yuuki Terumi and Relius Clover are both a fine pair of jerks as it is, but they sure crossed this line in the second game. At this point, it seems like they're competing in a "How far over the deep end can you go?" contest. At the moment, Terumi is winning this contest, if only for the fact that he's been around longer. However, what Relius lacks in quantity, he more than makes up for in sheer bastardry. [[spoiler:Just ask [[MindRape Makoto Nanaya]]...]]

** In ''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved'', [[BigBad 343 Guilty Spark]] is a WellIntentionedExtremist (with emphasis on extreme); however, at the end of ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'', Spark [[spoiler:murders Sgt. Johnson]]. This is somewhat understandable if you know Spark's background, however. Even when ignoring that he once [[spoiler:was a human who lived about 100,000 years before the game takes place, had his mind extracted and was turned into a floating lightbulb only to have all memories of his former life locked away in his databanks and made inaccessible to him when he was made the monitor of Installation 04, i.e. "his" Halo ring, there's still the fact that he not only had basically failed in his mission to preserve the functionality of his ring but was also basically told that the replacement for his Halo was to be blown up as well even before it was finished.]] For an AI that's big on sticking to protocols, this was simply too much for him. Considering that — just like human-made [=AIs=] — even monitors can [[AIIsACrapshoot become rampant]] after 100,000 years of solitude and practically nothing to do but routine maintenance work, it's not that surprising that Spark did what he did.

* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', Yuuki Terumi and Relius Clover are both a fine pair of jerks as it is, but they sure crossed this line in the second game. At this point, it seems like they're competing in a "How far over the deep end can you go?" contest. At the moment, Terumi is winning this contest, if only for the fact that he's been around longer. However, what Relius lacks in quantity, he more than makes up for in sheer bastardry. [[spoiler:Just ask [[MindRape Makoto Nanaya]]…]]

* Lord Brevon from ''VideoGame/FreedomPlanet'': if he didn't cross the line with [[spoiler:his ColdBloodedTorture of Lilac]], he flew over it on his CoolStarship when [[spoiler:he turned Milla into a OneWingedAngel, forcing the player to fight and potentially kill her.]]

* ''The Player'' can cross this in ''[[VideoGame/ArmoredCore Armored Core: For Answer]]'' with the mission [[Awesome/VideoGameLevels "Destroy Cradle 03"]] -- a mission that has you destroy 5 "Cradles", huge flying cities housing '''20 Million''' people each. Your progress through the mission is kept track of by [[OmnicidalManiac Old King]] saying how many people you have killed, ending with the staggering total of 100 Million. [[ThatOneLevel The next mission]] comes from a case of WhatTheHellHero, and 4 of the game's major characters come after you in a [[ThatOneLevel final, semi-heroic last stand]] (5 on [[NintendoHard Hard Mode]], with the 5th being the female lead of the game), that will, ultimately, because you are the [[InvincibleHero main character after all]], [[KarmaHoudini end with you coming out victorious]]. And then, [[FromBadToWorse the game states that you go on to destroy the rest of the Cradles.]] Did we mention that [[OmnicidalManiac most of what's left of humankind is living in those cities?]]

* ''The Player'' can cross this in ''[[VideoGame/ArmoredCore Armored Core: For Answer]]'' with the mission [[Awesome/VideoGameLevels "Destroy Cradle 03"]] -- a mission that has you destroy 5 "Cradles", huge flying cities housing '''20 Million''' people each. Your progress through the mission is kept track of by [[MagnificentBastard Old King]] saying how many people you have killed, ending with the staggering total of 100 Million. [[ThatOneLevel The next mission]] comes from a case of WhatTheHellHero, and 4 of the game's major characters come after you in a [[ThatOneLevel final, semi-heroic last stand]] (5 on [[NintendoHard Hard Mode]], with the 5th being the female lead of the game), that will, ultimately, because you are the [[InvincibleHero main character after all]], [[KarmaHoudini end with you coming out victorious]]. And then, [[FromBadToWorse the game states that you go on to destroy the rest of the Cradles.]] Did we mention that [[OmnicidalManiac most of what's left of humankind is living in those cities?]]

** Werner, the main antagonist of Olberic’s route, can claim to have crossed it several times over. Take your pick:

** In ''Overlord'', [[spoiler:Dr. Gavin Archer forced his own autistic brother David to take part in a traumatic experiment. The ''Paragon'' interrupt once Shepard finds out just what the hell Archer is doing is a PistolWhip to his face. Then again, he is shown in ''Mass Effect 3'' to have defected from Cerberus, and also made sure to destroy what was left of Project Overlord in the process. He also out and out told the Illusive Man that, "if he wanted the devil, all he had to do was look in the mirror".]]

** Even [[spoiler:a pure Renegade Shepard]] seems to have definitely crossed this line by ''Mass Effect 3''. Fans of the series will argue over how evil [[spoiler:his/her questionable deeds over the first two games were (the usual list includes killing Wrex, the Rachni Queen, Gianna Parasini, Aresh, and Samara, and leaving civilians to vaporize/burn to death in order to get Balak/Vido Santiago).]] However, all of those things could be seen as at least ''somewhat'' justified, both by in-universe characters and by players. What really seems completely monstrous and unjustifiable in the third game is if [[spoiler:Shepard murders Mordin/Padok Wiks to sabotage the cure for the genophage if Wrex is the clan leader (or, to a lesser extent, if Wreav is the clan leader and Eve survives). To make matters worse, if Wrex is the clan leader, he will confront Shepard about it later. Shepard will attempt to lie to his face and either kill him or have C-Sec gun him down.]] After all of that, [[spoiler:even Shepard seems to think he/she crossed the line]].
*** Special mention should be given to [[spoiler:not only allowing Samara to commit suicide to avoid having to kill her one remaining daughter in her mission in ''3'', but then ''killing said daughter yourself'']]. Not only is it evil, it's completely unnecessary.

** Ron, leader of the Hizoku: [[WhereIWasBornAndRazed razing his own village and murdering a sizable number of his clansmen]] to offer his services to NESTS for reasons unknown. He's labelled as a traitor by the clan, and nearly every survivor of that massacre who didn't jump ship with Ron is now hunting him down for answers and retribution. (Including clansman Lin, clanswoman Luan, son Duo Lon, and illegitimate daughter Xiao Lon.)
** Saiki: [[spoiler:callously killing his most loyal and sympathetic servant, Mukai, right after he had offered to fight in his stead.]] And he follows it by [[spoiler:taking over FakeDefector Ash's body to transform him into Evil Ash and keep fighting the heroes, much to Elisabeth and everyone else's horror]].

* ''VideoGame/DigimonSurvive'':
** If Arukenimon didn't cross it when she [[spoiler:led Ryo into letting himself get killed by the Master's Kenzoku, she definitely did when she purposefully destroys Shuuji's already deteriorating sanity, accumulating to him physically beating Lopmon and triggering his dark evolution to Wendigomon, who eats him alive. It doesn't get more cathartic when her boss Piedmon kills her because she was wasting too much time sadistically toying with the children rather than just grabbing them to him directly.]]
** Piedmon crossed it in [[spoiler:the Wrathful Route when he repaid Aoi's kindness by beating her to a bloody pulp and caused her transformation into the insane Plutomon.]] In the [[spoiler:Harmonious Route as Boltboutamon, he takes ''fifty steps further across the line'' when he kills off [[HeroKiller Kaito, Miyuki and the professor in one fell swoop]], then hijacking the Master's body to take revenge against him by destroying both worlds.]]
** You know this game is ''dark'' when it gives a chance for ''Takuma, the resident google-headed hero'' to cross it. If you choose [[spoiler:to ditch Agumon and Miyuki to go back home at the branching path of Part 8, you'll get a nasty DownerEnding where all of Takuma's friends and the other world are never heard of again, people in the real world treat him as a pariah over his fight against Piedmon, and the world is just moments away from ending as Takuma relocates from home with his mom.]] Unlike [[spoiler:Shuuji's abuse of Lopmon this is also a ''conscious choice'' on Takuma's end instead of him suffering from SanitySlippage, and he deserves to be spat upon by fans as a DirtyCoward who doomed his world and the other world to certain death in this ending.]]

* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft''[=/=]''VideoGame/WarcraftIII'': The first time Arthas Menethil does this can be summed up in a single short sentence. Six little words: "This entire city must be purged." Even if you accept the argument that it was necessary (the city could potentially be infected, anyone that Arthas didn't kill would be killed and reanimated as a Dreadlord's undead slaves anyway, and it's impossible to cure the Plague of Undeath — and Arthas, canonically, knew the first two facts ''at the very least''), the fact it was his first option, and he angrily turned on the [[LawfulGood Knights of the Silver Hand]] for refusing to participate, points out that he was on very, ''very'' shaky moral ground.
** Unfortunately, while the massacre is this from a lore viewpoint, gameplay-wise it is entirely possible to complete the Culling mission without harming a single living/uninfected person. (All villagers become zombies a few seconds after their homes are destroyed. In fact, if one is trying to manage multiple areas, it is arguably easier to wait for them to turn, as the peasants are neutral and require direct orders to attack while the zombies will be automatically engaged by your troops.)
** A straight-up example is when Arthas willingly sacrifices Muradin to acquire Frostmourne. [[spoiler:Muradin does survive somehow, but still.]]
** Grom Hellscream ''appears'' to dive wholeheartedly into damnation when he persuades his entire clan to [[DealWithTheDevil renew their blood pact with Mannoroth, a Pit Lord of the Burning Legion]], but scrambles back to redemption at the last minute, [[HeroicSacrifice giving his life to kill Mannoroth]], thus freeing his clan from demonic servitude.
*** And even then, it's debatable. Cairne Bloodhoof, prior to his death, overtly questions if Hellscream's sacrifice was enough to redeem him after all the atrocities he committed. Part of this potential white-washing might be a result of then-Warchief Thrall, who was generally well-loved by the orcs, being a HeroWorshipper and former close friend of Grom's who was willing to overlook his mistakes on a personal level.
** Neltharion, later known as Deathwing, crosses the Moral Event Horizon when he tricks the other Dragon Aspects into giving much of their power to the Dragon Soul, and then turns on them and kills nearly all the blue dragonflight. The rest of the Black Dragonflight crosses it with him in the eyes of the Red Dragonflight in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft: Cataclysm'', and the player is tasked with eliminating them in the Twilight Highlands. There was also the matter of him causing a massive earthquake that does enormous damage to Azeroth...
** Malygos crosses the Moral Event Horizon when the player, after defeating one of his minions, [[spoiler:finds a letter that reveals that he forced them to work for him under the threat of their family being killed]]. Like Deathwing, when Alexstraza learns of his plans, she sadly decides that he is beyond redemption, and decides to kill him to save Azeroth.
** Garrosh Hellscream has always been controversial, but a lot of people doubt he will have many sympathizers left after the [[spoiler:destruction of Theramore, leading to the deaths of hundreds, including [[AlasPoorScrappy Rhonin]]!]]
*** More recent acts include [[spoiler:trying to assassinate Vol'jin, attempted enslavement of the Darkspear Trolls, deliberately infesting his men with Sha, and trying to kill Anduin Wryyn.]]
*** Garrosh has in fact passed the [[MoralEventHorizon MEH]] in-universe with a growing faction of the Horde (led by Vol'jin) starting a revolution to overthrow him. The act that kicks off the final push to overthrow him is [[spoiler:him unearthing the heart of the Old God Y'Shaarj and putting it into the lifegiving Pools of Power. As a result, the sacred Vale of Eternal Blossoms is destroyed, the defenders are killed and/or sentenced to eternal torment reliving their failure, and Garrosh now has a weaponized Old God at his disposal that he intends to use to conquer the world — you can see a vision of Stormwind destroyed and all his enemies impaled on spikes]].
** Overlord Krom'gar crosses this at the end of the Stonetalon Mountains storyline for the Horde, detonating a bomb that destroys a school for training druids. High Chieftain Cliffwalker makes a reference to this, and even Garrosh, who at this point had not yet crossed his own MoralEventHorizon but was still a questionably violent warchief, believes Krom'gar had gone too far, and punishes him by death.
-->'''High Chieftain Cliffwalker''': "You are about to cross a terrible threshold, Krom'gar. May the Earth Mother have mercy on your soul."
** The Alliance is not without a war criminal or two. Sky Admiral Rogers, near the start of the Jade Forest storyline, has Horde troops gunned down while they try to swim to safety. This disgusts Rell Nightwind, a night elf [=SI:7=] operative, so much that he begins to question the cause, and spawns sha that are manifestations of his doubt.
*** Though it's hardly surprising given her FreudianExcuse. When the player mentions that she seems to have it out for the Horde, she replies that she was born and raised in Southshore (which was recently plagued by the Forsaken).
** Also of note is Admiral Daelin Proudmoore, who pushed the major factions back to the brink of war because he and his didn't get the memo that the Horde was trying to mend its ways. A great deal of blood was spilled because the Admiral found it impossible to believe that the extra-planar invaders had suddenly decided to reform. Though as with most Alliance "villains", it's debatable whether they cross a moral event horizon or had simply [[HeWhoFightsMonsters fought one too many demon-worshipping hell-orcs to see them as anything but mass-murdering monsters]].
*** Interestingly enough, events in ''Mists of Pandaria'' have led to Daelin getting a case of VindicatedByHistory when Garrosh destroys Theramore. Jaina overtly comes to believe her father was right and that she should have never trusted the orcs. Though she sort of calmed down when Kalec and Thrall bluntly tell her that she is literally acting just like Garrosh.
** Speaking of the Proudmoore bloodline, Jaina's been flirting with the MoralEventHorizon since Theramore was destroyed: Thrall and Kalec managed to talk her out of it, but not before she nearly killed Thrall and [[spoiler:almost wiped out every living being in Durotar with a tidal wave.]] To put this into perspective, Kalec reasoned doing this would make her ''worse than Arthas'' because at least he was a WellIntentionedExtremist when he purged Stratholme.
*** And as of patch 5.1, some people have claimed she's finally gone over the edge with the Purge of Dalaran, where she discovers Blood Elf spies working for Garrosh have been using the city's portal system to smuggle supplies for the Horde war effort. Rather than just trying the criminals, she orders ''all'' of the Sunreavers to surrender themselves for imprisonment, and orders Veressa to execute anyone who resists. Opinion is mixed as to whether it was a severe overreaction and blaming people who didn't deserve it, or if it was justified and long-overdue karma for everything the blood elves have done to the Alliance since they left them.
*** She definitively crosses it after [[spoiler:Garrosh's defeat. During the Horde's deliberations on selecting a new Warchief, Jaina encourages Varian to have all of the present Horde leaders killed in order to preemptively defeat them, Thrall included.]]
*** The novel "War Crimes" implies that she has pulled back from it, being temporarily insane post-Theramore. She even [[spoiler:outright states that Garrosh should NOT be used to represent orcs in general since they have tried to amend for their misdeeds]].
** Sylvanas ''burned the world tree while thousands of elven families were praying for their lives inside''. This is partially out of spite for being spurned by her former sisters, and partially out of pride at the Lich Queen she has willingly become.
*** Sylvanas Windrunner has plaguebombed several cities like Southshore and maintains slave pens and human experimentation facilities in Undercity, and public slaves like Therese Mindslave who have been tortured, lobotomized and several organs removed for... science. Her immolation of the night elf settlement at the new World Tree of Teldrassil, however, is where Saurfang felt she crossed the line, and the odds of her coming to blows with the Horde have skyrocketed for that offense.
*** Shadowlands reveals she secretly crossed the MEH a very long time ago, and all her actions up to that point have merely solidified this crossing in service to [[spoiler:The Maw, the soul-devouring psychopaths that rule the darkest corners of the afterlife. Who, with Sylvannas help, have [[ReroutedFromHeaven captured ''every'' soul who has died since the Cataclysm]]]].
** [[GeneralRipper Grand Marshall Garithos]] from ''VideoGame/WarcraftIII'' is a [[FantasticRacism bigoted asshole]], and [[HateSink entirely unsympathetic character]] from the start. But [[TheUriahGambit his repeated attempts to kill the then loyal blood elves off]] in a multitude of ways teeters him over the edge when he finally finds a loaded excuse to kill them when they actually survived. When Kael'thas [[AFatherToHisMen offers his own life in exchange for the lives of his people]], Garithos turns him down as he admits to [[FinalSolution wanting all the Blood elves dead.]] Needless to say, you really don't feel bad for Garithos when his EnemyMine with Sylvanas ultimately [[AssholeVictim results in him being torn apart]].