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-->-- ''ComicBook/TeenTitans''
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*** Whilst the Titans West were never formerly either Pre- or Post-Crisis, a story in the 2023 anthology one-shot '''DC's Legion of Bloom''' would have a new version of the Titans West form with Flamebird at the leader with Dawn Granger/Dove II, Hawk and Bumblebee as members of the team.

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*** Whilst the Titans West were never formerly either Pre- or Post-Crisis, ''ComicBook/TheBirdsAndTheBees'', a story in the 2023 anthology one-shot '''DC's Legion of Bloom''' would have a new version of the Titans West form with Flamebird at the leader with Dawn Granger/Dove II, Hawk and Bumblebee as members of the team.

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** The original run had the [[Characters/TeenTitansOriginalTeenTitans Teen Titans West]] (pictured) and later the Titans L.A.
** In the UsefulNotes/TurnOfTheMillennium, the main ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' team (comprised mostly of former members of ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'') had relocated to the West Coast (UsefulNotes/SanFrancisco), so when a group of former Titans (mostly members from the 1980's) briefly reassembled in 2008 as another [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Titans#Titans_.28vol._2.2C_2008.E2.80.932011.29 Titans]] team (headquartered in UsefulNotes/{{New York|City}}), they were humorously referred to (by fans) as "Titans East". There was another group actually named "Titans East", just one year before that, but they were a villain team composed of enemies/counterparts to the actual Teen Titans, and a different "Titans East" team that plays the trope straight was in [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitans the animated series]], but was never in the comics.

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** The original run had the [[Characters/TeenTitansOriginalTeenTitans Teen Titans West]] (pictured) (colloquielly known as the '''Titans West''') who are pictured above who are one of the {{Trope Maker}}s alongside the West Coast Avengers who came later on. They consisted of every single teenage hero (except for Aquagirl) who wasn't part of the main team at the time: Lilith Clay (who also led the team), [[Characters/TeenTitansBeastBoy Beast Boy]], Bette Kane/ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} I, Charley Parker/[[ComicBook/{{Hawkman}} Golden Eagle]], and ComicBook/HawkAndDove. This team was meant to be part of a revival of the main book where both Titans East and Titans West would be active at the same with a member rehaul but the title was unfortunately cancelled before it could come to fruition. The Post-Crisis version introduced in the ''ComicBook/SecretOrigins'' Annual #3 and later featured in ''ComicBook/HawkAndDove'' Vol 2 Annual #1 would update the line-up, replacing the mantle Bette held at the time from Bat-Girl to Flamebird, adding in Duela Dent (Joker's Daughter) to the line-up and replacing the costume Charley wore from a feathery bird costume to a more golden armour.
*** Whilst
the Titans West were never formerly either Pre- or Post-Crisis, a story in the 2023 anthology one-shot '''DC's Legion of Bloom''' would have a new version of the Titans West form with Flamebird at the leader with Dawn Granger/Dove II, Hawk and Bumblebee as members of the team.
** ''ComicBook/Titans1999'' also had the short-lilved Titans
L.A.
** In the UsefulNotes/TurnOfTheMillennium, the main ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' ''ComicBook/TeenTitans2003'' team (comprised mostly of former members of ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'') had relocated to the West Coast (UsefulNotes/SanFrancisco), so when a group of former Titans (mostly members from the 1980's) briefly reassembled in 2008 as another [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teen_Titans#Titans_.28vol._2.2C_2008.E2.80.932011.29 Titans]] team in ''ComicBook/Titans2008'' (headquartered in UsefulNotes/{{New York|City}}), they were humorously referred to (by fans) as "Titans East". There was another group actually named "Titans East", just one year before that, but they were a villain team composed of enemies/counterparts to the actual Teen Titans, and a different "Titans East" team that plays the trope straight was in [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitans the animated series]], but was never in the comics.
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** The original run had the Teen Titans West (pictured) and later the Titans L.A.

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** The original run had the [[Characters/TeenTitansOriginalTeenTitans Teen Titans West West]] (pictured) and later the Titans L.A.
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[[caption-width-right:350:They're a lot more than just sidekicks.]]


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[[caption-width-right:350:They're a lot more than just sidekicks.]]

[[caption-width-right:350:The issue that saved many from being lost in ComicBookLimbo.]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:They're a lot more than just sidekicks.]]


->'''Dawn:''' "Flamebird..."
->'''Bette:''' "Just one more case, and then that's it, I promise. No more [[Characters/TeenTitansOriginalTeenTitans Titans West]]. ''Unless...''"
->'''Dawn:''' "'''''Flamebird!'''''"
-->-- ''ComicBook/TeenTitans''
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* Any organization that gets expansive enough will usually split off into easier to manage chunks. One historic example is UsefulNotes/{{the Roman Empire}}, which became so expansive that they briefly experimented with having four Emperors at once, with two (a senior Augustus and a junior Caesar) serving in the Eastern and Western halves of the Empire. While the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrarchy Tetrarchy]] didn't last, the Empire was eventually split into the Western Roman Empire (centered on UsefulNotes/{{Rome}}) and the Eastern Roman Empire, also known as the UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire, centered on [[UsefulNotes/{{Istanbul}} Constantinople]].

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* Any organization that gets expansive enough will usually split off into easier to manage chunks. One historic example is UsefulNotes/{{the Roman Empire}}, which became so expansive that they briefly experimented with having four Emperors at once, with two (a senior Augustus and a junior Caesar) serving in the Eastern and Western halves of the Empire. While the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrarchy Tetrarchy]] didn't last, the Empire was eventually split into the Western Roman Empire (centered on UsefulNotes/{{Rome}}) and the Eastern Roman Empire, also Empire[[note]]retroactively known as the UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire, centered UsefulNotes/ByzantineEmpire[[/note]] (centered on [[UsefulNotes/{{Istanbul}} Constantinople]].Constantinople]]).
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* Creator/RobLiefeld's ''ComicBook/YoungbloodImageComics'' had a "Home" team and an "Away" team. Their premiere issue infamously featured stories concerning both teams, but... how to put this... One story is upside-down relative to the other? The "Away" team's story is read by [[InterfaceScrew flipping the book over and reading from what would normally be the back cover]].

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* Creator/RobLiefeld's ''ComicBook/YoungbloodImageComics'' had originally starred two Youngblood teams: a "Home" team for domestic threats and an "Away" team. Their premiere issue infamously featured stories concerning both teams, but... how to put this... One story is upside-down relative to the other? team for international threats. The "Away" team's story is read by [[InterfaceScrew flipping the book over team were soon rebranded and reading from what would normally be the back cover]].spun off into their own series, titled ''Team Youngblood''.
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* Creator/RobLiefeld's ''ComicBook/{{Youngblood}}'' had a "Home" team and an "Away" team. Their premiere issue infamously featured stories concerning both teams, but... how to put this... One story is upside-down relative to the other? The "Away" team's story is read by [[InterfaceScrew flipping the book over and reading from what would normally be the back cover]].

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* Creator/RobLiefeld's ''ComicBook/{{Youngblood}}'' ''ComicBook/YoungbloodImageComics'' had a "Home" team and an "Away" team. Their premiere issue infamously featured stories concerning both teams, but... how to put this... One story is upside-down relative to the other? The "Away" team's story is read by [[InterfaceScrew flipping the book over and reading from what would normally be the back cover]].
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Don’t need links to same page, and updated some details


** ''Justice League Europe'' was a WestCoastTeam that, rather than the West Coast, relocated to another ''continent''.

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** ''Justice League Europe'' was a WestCoastTeam West Coast Team that, rather than the West Coast, relocated to another ''continent''.



* ''Comicbook/{{Runaways}}'' serves as a WestCoastTeam to the entire Franchise/MarvelUniverse; they're very specifically placed in Los Angeles, where there wasn't much super-anything activity. In ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion'', the Skrull empire actually lampshades this, thinking that conquering the West Coast will be a cake-walk compared to the hero dense East Coast. Unfortunately for them the X-Men had recently relocated to San Francisco. And SpeakOfTheDevil...

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* ''Comicbook/{{Runaways}}'' serves as a WestCoastTeam West Coast Team to the entire Franchise/MarvelUniverse; they're very specifically placed in Los Angeles, where there wasn't much super-anything activity. In ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion'', the Skrull empire actually lampshades this, thinking that conquering the West Coast will be a cake-walk compared to the hero dense East Coast. Unfortunately for them the X-Men had recently relocated to San Francisco. And SpeakOfTheDevil...



** Taking the "Great Lakes Avengers" gag up a level, there was a one-shot ''Justice League Antarctica'' title. The team was mostly supervillains briefly attempting to reform.

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** Taking the "Great Lakes Avengers" gag up a level, there was a one-shot ''Justice League Antarctica'' title.story in ''Justice League America Annual 4'' (Volume 1). The team was mostly supervillains briefly attempting to reform. They were introduced in issue 23 as a new version of "The Injustice League".
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* ''Comicbook/{{Runaways}}'' serves as a WestCoastTeam to the entire MarvelUniverse; they're very specifically placed in Los Angeles, where there wasn't much super-anything activity. In ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion'', the Skrull empire actually lampshades this, thinking that conquering the West Coast will be a cake-walk compared to the hero dense East Coast. Unfortunately for them the X-Men had recently relocated to San Francisco. And SpeakOfTheDevil...

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* ''Comicbook/{{Runaways}}'' serves as a WestCoastTeam to the entire MarvelUniverse; Franchise/MarvelUniverse; they're very specifically placed in Los Angeles, where there wasn't much super-anything activity. In ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion'', the Skrull empire actually lampshades this, thinking that conquering the West Coast will be a cake-walk compared to the hero dense East Coast. Unfortunately for them the X-Men had recently relocated to San Francisco. And SpeakOfTheDevil...
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* ''Fanfic/AdventuresOfTheSilverBullets'': At the end of chapter 3, [[Manga/DeathNote L]] invites [[Manga/RosarioPlusVampire Moka and Tsukune]] to join a division of the Silver Bullets in Los Dracos.
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* Before the National Hockey League, there was the Pacific Coast Hockey Association, and later the Western Canada Hockey League; the two merged in 1924 before folding in 1926, dispersing their players eastward to the [=NHL=]. The [=PCHA=] produced the first American teams to compete for the Stanley Cup, the Portland Rosebuds and the Seattle Metropolitans (the latter won the Cup in 1917). The [=NHL=] would not expand west of Chicago (save for a one-season experiment in St. Louis) until 1967. By then, the Western Hockey League[[note]]a minor pro league not related to the current Canadian major junior circuit [[NamesTheSame of the same name]][[/note]] was considered a threat to become [[TheRival a rival major league]], but it never happened (instead the World Hockey Association sprung up a few years later).

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* Before the National Hockey League, there was the Pacific Coast Hockey Association, and later the Western Canada Hockey League; the two merged in 1924 before folding in 1926, dispersing their players eastward to the [=NHL=]. The [=PCHA=] produced the first American teams to compete for the Stanley Cup, the Portland Rosebuds and the Seattle Metropolitans (the latter won the Cup in 1917). The [=NHL=] would not expand west of Chicago (save for a one-season experiment in St. Louis) until 1967. By then, the Western Hockey League[[note]]a minor pro league not related to the current Canadian major junior circuit [[NamesTheSame of the same name]][[/note]] name[[/note]] was considered a threat to become [[TheRival a rival major league]], but it never happened (instead the World Hockey Association sprung up a few years later).
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* The ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' animated series inverts the situation from the comics (and seen in the page image), with the main team operating in [[NoCommunitiesWereHarmed an expy of San Francisco]] rather than on the East Coast. As such, when a B-Team is formed, those characters relocate to the other side of the country and are known as Titans East.

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* The ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' animated series ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'' inverts the situation from the comics (and seen in the page image), with the main team operating in [[NoCommunitiesWereHarmed an expy of San Francisco]] rather than on the East Coast. As such, when a B-Team is formed, those characters relocate to the other side of the country and are known as Titans East.
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-->'''[[http://h2g2.com/edited_entry/A6671531 h2gh]]''': The continued focus on ''Voyager'' led to some people calling ''[=DS9=]'' the [[RedHeadedStepchild bastard child]] of the franchise. The truth is that this focus on ''Voyager'' may have helped ''[=DS9=]'''s writers do things that they wouldn't have been able to do had the spotlight been on them.

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->''"Think of a shared superhero universe as something that generates inertia. At the core of the universe, very little will ever change or even bother with the illusion of change: Franchise/{{Superman}} will always be Big Blue, Batman will always mourn his parents, Wolverine will always have claws and be gruff. As you get further and further away from that core, though, you get more and more freedom to do whatever you want."''
-->-- '''[[http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2011/11/10/legion-talk-and-whatnot/ MGK]]'''

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->''"Think of a shared superhero universe as something that generates inertia. At the core of the universe, very little will ever change or even bother with the illusion of change: Franchise/{{Superman}} will always be Big Blue, Batman will always mourn his parents, Wolverine will always have claws and be gruff. As you get further and further away from that core, though, you get more and more freedom to do whatever you want."''
-->-- '''[[http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2011/11/10/legion-talk-and-whatnot/ MGK]]'''

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