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** The [[{{Precursors}} Forerunners]] notably did not have this problem. While they did fight multiple civil wars over their history, by the time the Flood destroyed them, their Ecumene still dominated the galaxy as a single political body, stable at three million worlds.

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** The [[{{Precursors}} Forerunners]] notably did not have this problem. While they did fight multiple civil wars over their history, by they seemed to be over which of their FantasticCasteSystem would be in charge of government, rather than wars of secession, extirpation, or revolution. By the time the Flood destroyed them, their Ecumene still dominated the galaxy as a single political body, stable at three million worlds.
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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its sequel ''Fanfic/{{Origins}}'', the galaxy surrounding Pandora fits this trope, being that the "government" is a sham and the strongest actors are [[NGOSuperpower corporations]]. Downplayed with the Trans-Galactic Republic, though it may be a bureaucratic nightmare, it still functions as a legitimate-if-incompetent state unlike the Economic Development Group.

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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', ''Fanfic/FracturedSovereignGFC'', a ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its sequel ''Fanfic/{{Origins}}'', the galaxy surrounding Pandora fits this trope, being that the "government" is a sham and the strongest actors are [[NGOSuperpower corporations]]. Downplayed with the Trans-Galactic Republic, though it may be a bureaucratic nightmare, it still functions as a legitimate-if-incompetent state unlike the Economic Development Group.
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* ''Literature/BannerOfTheStars'': this is one of the reasons the Abh Empire has a largely "hands-off" policy towards governing the planets under their dominion. They figure it's impossible to truly unite thousands of disparate worlds under one culture, so landworlders can govern themselves and do what they wish with the planetary surface, while the Abh themselves control interstellar space (the Abh's name for themselves is "Kin of the Stars"... they consider the void of space to be their homeland, not any planet). This is mentioned to be in contrast to the Four Nations' Alliance, the members of which are trying to homogenize their respective cultures across the worlds each controls, and it isn't really working.

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* ''Literature/BannerOfTheStars'': this ''Literature/CrestOfTheStars'': This is one of the reasons why the Abh Empire has a largely "hands-off" policy towards governing the planets under their dominion. They figure it's impossible to truly unite thousands of disparate worlds under one culture, so landworlders can govern themselves and do what they wish with the planetary surface, while the Abh themselves control interstellar space (the Abh's name for themselves is "Kin of the Stars"... they consider the void of space to be their homeland, not any planet). This is mentioned to be in contrast to the Four Nations' Alliance, the members of which are trying to homogenize their respective cultures across the worlds each controls, and it isn't really working.



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** the Centauri Republic once controlled more than half of local space, but after the PyrrhicVictory in the Centauri-Orieni War they started hemorrhaging worlds, [[VestigialEmpire and now are reduced to twelve systems]], with many worlds of their former empire being now half of the [[TheAlliance League of Non-Aligned Worlds]] or belonging to the Narn Regime (itself former Centauri subjects);
** the League of Non-Aligned Worlds is in theory a strict alliance bent on becoming TheFederation. In actual practice, however, they are only unified by the common threat of the Centauri (even if they are ultimately overwhelmed by them. Turns out that as they shrunk, the Centauri advanced their technology enough that they can fight the whole League and win) and common commercial bonds with Earth Alliance;
** the Earth Alliance is apparently unified, but the ExpandedUniverse makes clear that there still are independent nations ''on Earth itself'' (the Vatican for the same reasons they are still independent from Italy, and Israel with their own colony world and the Republic of Korea because they never joined the Alliance for their own reasons), even if they strongly feel Alliance pressure (Israel's independence is mostly nominal), and as Earth Alliance expanded in space two different sets of separatists slipped out and formed their own states, the Sh'lassen Triumvirate (two worlds, they join Earth Alliance during the series when the government starts losing a civil war and calls Earth for help, with joining the Alliance as condition) and the Free Human Union (three worlds, still independent).

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** the The Centauri Republic once controlled more than half of local space, but after the PyrrhicVictory in the Centauri-Orieni War they started hemorrhaging worlds, [[VestigialEmpire and now are reduced to twelve systems]], with many worlds of their former empire being now half of the [[TheAlliance League of Non-Aligned Worlds]] or belonging to the Narn Regime (itself former Centauri subjects);
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** the The League of Non-Aligned Worlds is in theory a strict alliance bent on becoming TheFederation. In actual practice, however, they are only unified by the common threat of the Centauri (even if they are ultimately overwhelmed by them. Turns out that as they shrunk, the Centauri advanced their technology enough that they can fight the whole League and win) and common commercial bonds with Earth Alliance;
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** the The Earth Alliance is apparently unified, but the ExpandedUniverse makes clear that there still are independent nations ''on Earth itself'' (the Vatican for the same reasons they are still independent from Italy, and Israel with their own colony world and the Republic of Korea because they never joined the Alliance for their own reasons), even if they strongly feel Alliance pressure (Israel's independence is mostly nominal), and as Earth Alliance expanded in space two different sets of separatists slipped out and formed their own states, the Sh'lassen Triumvirate (two worlds, they join Earth Alliance during the series when the government starts losing a civil war and calls Earth for help, with joining the Alliance as condition) and the Free Human Union (three worlds, still independent).
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* ''Literature/BannerOfTheStars'': this is one of the reasons the Abh Empire has a largely "hands-off" policy towards governing the planets under their dominion. They figure it's impossible to truly unite thousands of disparate worlds under one culture, so landworlders can govern themselves and do what they wish with the planetary surface, while the Abh themselves control interstellar space (the Abh's name for themselves is "Kin of the Stars"... they consider the void of space to be their homeland, not any planet). This is mentioned to be in contrast to the Four Nations' Alliance, the members of which are trying to homogenize their respective cultures across the worlds each controls, and it isn't really working.
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* ''Literature/RemembranceOfEarthsPast'': The Dark Forest doesn’t just mean every alien species is at war with every other alien species, it also means [[spoiler:every spacefaring species will likely be at war with itself too. This is first demonstrated when the handful of surviving ships from the destruction of humanity’s space fleet end up fighting each other for fuel and supplies, and again later when the alien species that destroys the solar system is shown to be fighting a civil war between its homeworld and a colony world]].

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* ''Literature/RemembranceOfEarthsPast'': The Dark Forest theory doesn’t just mean every alien species is at war with every other alien species, it also means [[spoiler:every spacefaring species in the ''universe'' will likely be at war with itself too. This is first demonstrated when the handful of surviving ships from the destruction of humanity’s space fleet end up fighting each other for fuel and supplies, and again later when the alien species that destroys destroyed the solar system is shown to be fighting a civil war between its homeworld and a colony world]].
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* ''Literature/RemembranceOfEarthsPast'': The Dark Forest doesn’t just mean every alien species is at war with every other alien species, it also means [[spoiler:every spacefaring species will likely be at war with itself too. This is first demonstrated when the handful of surviving ships from the destruction of humanity’s space fleet end up fighting each other for fuel and supplies, and again later when the alien species that destroys the solar system is shown to be fighting a civil war between its homeworld and a colony world]].
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* The Anglo-Sino Alliance in ''Series/{{Firefly}}'' either can't or won't do much more than collect taxes and suppress dissent in the poorer and less populated planets on the outer edges of its territory in the star cluster where the series takes place. Various wealthy industrialists and landowners are effectively a law unto themselves, and attacks by homicidally-insane cannibal Reavers are hushed up and officially denied. [[spoiler: Though the last one is justified by the fact the Alliance ''created'' the Reavers with a botched GovernmentDrugEnforcement trial, and is going to enormous lengths to keep this fact on the down-low.]]

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* The Anglo-Sino Alliance in ''Series/{{Firefly}}'' either can't or won't do much more than collect taxes and suppress dissent in the poorer and less populated planets on the outer edges of its territory in the star cluster system where the series takes place. Various wealthy industrialists and landowners are effectively a law unto themselves, and attacks by homicidally-insane cannibal Reavers are hushed up and officially denied. [[spoiler: Though the last one is justified by the fact the Alliance ''created'' the Reavers with a botched GovernmentDrugEnforcement trial, and is going to enormous lengths to keep this fact on the down-low.]]
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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'': Even at its peak, the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Earth Federation]] is barely able to keep things under control within the Earth Sphere. Zeon remnants are able to flee into deep space aboard the mobile fortress Axis (in addition to remnants hiding out on Earth itself), several dissident groups are spread out amongst the colonies, repeated wars weaken both its military and its ability to govern... by the time of [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory]], the Federation's power is so non-existent that the war with the Zanscare Empire is fought by the ragtag League Militaire. Note that in these series, humanity is still confined to the Solar System.

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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'': Even at its peak, the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Earth Federation]] is barely able to keep things under control within the Earth Sphere. Zeon remnants are able to flee into deep space aboard the mobile fortress Axis (in addition to remnants hiding out on Earth itself), several dissident groups are spread out amongst the colonies, repeated wars weaken both its military and its ability to govern... by the time of [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory]], the Federation's power is so non-existent that the war with the Zanscare Empire is fought by the ragtag League Militaire. Note that in these series, humanity is still confined to the Solar System.a single solar system.
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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'': Even at its peak, the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Earth Federation]] is barely able to keep things under control within the Earth Sphere. Zeon remnants are able to flee into deep space aboard the mobile fortress Axis (in addition to remnants hiding out on Earth itself), several dissident groups are spread out amongst the colonies, repeated wars weaken both its military and its ability to govern... by the time of [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory]], the Federation's power is so non-existent that the war with the Zanscare Empire is fought by the ragtag League Militaire.

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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'': Even at its peak, the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Earth Federation]] is barely able to keep things under control within the Earth Sphere. Zeon remnants are able to flee into deep space aboard the mobile fortress Axis (in addition to remnants hiding out on Earth itself), several dissident groups are spread out amongst the colonies, repeated wars weaken both its military and its ability to govern... by the time of [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory]], the Federation's power is so non-existent that the war with the Zanscare Empire is fought by the ragtag League Militaire. Note that in these series, humanity is still confined to the Solar System.
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** Further Patches developed this to a greater degree, especially the Overlord expansion: given time, it becomes more efficient for large Empires to delegate authority and autonomy to loyal and semi-loyal vassal states with a range of levels of autonomy, albeit at the risk of your vassals pledging fealty to other states and turning rogue and starting wars.
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** The [[{{Precursors}} Forerunners]] notably did not have this problem. While they did see periods of internal strife, by the time the Flood destroyed them, their Ecumene was stable at three million worlds and only didn't expand further due to diminishing returns.

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*** The Romulan Star Empire lost its home systems to a supernova and its government collapsed. At the same time, the destruction of Mars and its shipyards, severely crippled the Federation and Starfleet. The new Romulan government lost control of many of its systems to anarchy and the Federation is too week politically and militarily to step in and take advantage of the situation. Many of the systems of the old Romulan Neutral Zone are lawless and run by warlords and crime syndicates.

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*** The Romulan Star Empire lost its home systems to a supernova and its government collapsed. At the same time, the destruction of Mars and its shipyards, shipyards severely crippled the Federation and Starfleet. The new Romulan government lost control of many of its systems to anarchy and the Federation is too week weak politically and militarily to step in and take advantage of the situation. Many of the systems of the old Romulan Neutral Zone are lawless and run by warlords and crime syndicates.


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** ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' reveals that in the 32nd century, governing the galaxy has gotten worse in the wake of the Burn, which destroyed almost all warp-capable starships and nearly ended interstellar civilization. The Federation collapsed to 1/10 of its peak while crime syndicates like the Emerald Chain filled in the power vacuum.
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** The [[{{Precursors}} Forerunners]] notably did not have this problem. While they did see periods of internal strife, by the time the Flood destroyed them, their Ecumene was stable at three million worlds and only didn't expand further due to diminishing returns.
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** One of the few things known about the ancient Necrontyr empire, which dominated the galaxy millions of years ago, was that it was engaged in an enormous hairball of a civil war as its various dynasties fought for independence from the Silent King and each other. They only reunited after the Silent King pulled a GenghisGambit against their contemporaries the Old Ones, then fell apart again when they failed to beat the Old Ones, then reunited again after they became the Necrons (thanks to the Silent King having them all slaved to his will via his command protocols), then fell right back apart after the Silent King destroyed his command protocols and exiled himself out of the galaxy.

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** One of the few things known about the ancient Necrontyr empire, which dominated the galaxy millions of years ago, was that it was engaged in an enormous hairball of a civil war as its various dynasties fought for independence from the Silent King and each other. They only reunited after the Silent King pulled a GenghisGambit against their contemporaries the Old Ones, then fell apart again when they failed to beat the Old Ones, then reunited again after they became the Necrons (thanks to the Silent King having them all slaved to his will via his command protocols), then fell right back apart after the Silent King destroyed his command protocols and exiled himself out of the galaxy. Some Necron characters speak fondly of the glory days of the Infinite Empire, but none show particular interest in being governed by it again.
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** One of the few things known about the ancient Necrontyr empire, which dominated the galaxy millions of years ago, was that it was engaged in an enormous hairball of a civil war as its various dynasties fought for independence from the Silent King and each other. They only reunited after the Silent King pulled a GenghisGambit against their contemporaries the Old Ones, then fell apart again when they failed to beat the Old Ones, then reunited again after they became the Necrons (thanks to the Silent King having them all slaved to his will via his command protocols), then fell right back apart after the Silent King destroyed his command protocols and exiled himself out of the galaxy.
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* The [=DoOon=] empire in Creator/PiersAnthony's ''Literature/{{Mode}}'' series is either an aversion or a [[DownplayedTrope downplaying]]. It appears to have very good policies in terms of BreadAndCircuses, and of course the elite does even better in terms of living a comfortable and stable lifestyle. It helps to have bioengineered servants who are [[HappinessInSlavery extremely content to serve the ruling class]]. But they're far from perfect: in particular, they harvested a sentient species of snail for several years simply because they didn't know they were sentient. The Emperor put a stop to this once he found out, but this is exactly the kind of problem that is going to come up in any galactic-scale empire.

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* A game mechanic in ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'', empires have a limit to the number of "Core Systems" they can directly govern (usually 5), to have more without taking severe penalties to resource production they need to assign excess systems to semi-autonomous "sectors", which are somewhat prone to forming secessionist factions. When the sector limit is reached an empire may need to create almost completely autonomous vassals which are even more prone to rebellion.

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* In the ''{{Literature/Foundation}}'' series, it is stated that Trantor's[[note]]a CityPlanet at the center of the galaxy[[/note]] entire population was dedicated to bureaucracy, and that it collapsed due to the impossibility of efficient governing. Seldon's Plan is intended to create a Second Empire, but it's stated that, in addition to being psionically governed, it will be more of TheFederation. There are also a couple of alternatives offered, although the option of an actual Empire tends to be viewed rather skeptically.

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* In the ''{{Literature/Foundation}}'' series, it is stated that Trantor's[[note]]a CityPlanet at the center of the galaxy[[/note]] entire population was dedicated to bureaucracy, and that it collapsed due to the impossibility of efficient governing. Seldon's Plan is intended to create a Second Empire, but it's stated that, in addition to being psionically governed, it will be more of TheFederation. There are also a couple of alternatives offered, although the option of an actual Empire tends to be viewed rather skeptically. In the greater context of the setting, and even within Foundation if one pays attention to the dating, it is strongly downplayed: one of the major factors that brought down the Galactic Empire was lack of efficient governing... but the Galactic Empire lasted for thousands of years as a genuine, functional Galactic Empire (Year 1 of the Galactic Era was the coronation of the first Galactic Emperor, and ''Foundation'' starts in the 13th millennium of the Galactic Era) before that, and that's not counting the period where the Trantorian Empire had taken control of much of the Galaxy and was obviously heading towards, slowly, taking control of the rest.

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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}''
** Even at its peak, the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Earth Federation]] is barely able to keep things under control within the Earth Sphere. Zeon remnants are able to flee into deep space aboard the mobile fortress Axis (in addition to remnants hiding out on Earth itself), several dissident groups are spread out amongst the colonies, repeated wars weaken both its military and its ability to govern... by the time of [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory]], the Federation's power is so non-existent that the war with the Zanscare Empire is fought by the ragtag League Militaire.

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** In the Imperium of Man, individual planets are normally self-governing, with taxes and men for Imperial regiments being gathered by an administration stiff and bureaucratic, operating on its own and not controlled from the top. Whether your planet is a democracy or a neo-feudal dictatorship, the Imperium doesn't really give a toss as to how you run your planet as long as you pay the tithes the bureaucracy sets, hand over the pyskers when the Black Ships come by every few decades, and ensure the Imperial Cult is followed (and even the smarter Ecclesiarchs realize the Creed is going to be slightly different from one planet to another and tolerate this, the more common ones declare everyone else heretics).

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* This is part of the background of ''VideoGame/{{Rimworld}}'' owing to the fact that there is ''no'' FTL travel. Despite the fact that humanity has spent over three thousand years exploring the cosmos and colonizing countless planets, no interstellar polity is able to maintain a grasp over more than a few, and the vast majority of planets are totally independent with little or no contact elsewhere, having slowly ([[ApocalypseHow or sometimes very QUICKLY]]) regressed back to pre-Space or even pre-Industrial levels of technology. The game takes place on one such planet and your colonists must survive amidst dozens of other sparse colonies with barely any overarching government between them.
* In ''VideoGame/{{Starsector}}'' it's been two hundred years since the collapse of [[TheEmpire The Domain's]] vast PortalNetwork cut off the Persean Sector from the rest of humanity. Owing to the general instability of the situation as well as a loss of technology thanks in part to InUniverse CopyProtection, the sector has split into five major factions, along with a collection of minor factions or independent planets all squabbling amongst one another. Out of several dozen inhabited "core worlds" and countless hundreds of (variously habitable) planets further into hyperspace, the two largest factions claim only twelve planets each and their holds are shaky.
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** Even at its peak, the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Earth Federation]] is barely able to keep things under control within the Earth Sphere. Zeon remnants are able to flee into deep space aboard the mobile fortress Axis (in addition to remnants hiding out on Earth itself), several dissident groups are spread out amongst the colonies, repeated wars weaken both its military and its ability to govern... by the time of [[Anime/MobileSuitVGundam V Gundam]] the Federation's power is so non-existent that the war with the Zanscare Empire is fought by the ragtag League Militaire.

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** Even at its peak, the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Earth Federation]] is barely able to keep things under control within the Earth Sphere. Zeon remnants are able to flee into deep space aboard the mobile fortress Axis (in addition to remnants hiding out on Earth itself), several dissident groups are spread out amongst the colonies, repeated wars weaken both its military and its ability to govern... by the time of [[Anime/MobileSuitVGundam V Gundam]] the Federation's power is so non-existent that the war with the Zanscare Empire is fought by the ragtag League Militaire.
* The Pan-Galactic Peace Alliance from ''Anime/TransformersVictory'' is a seemingly successful attempt to avert this. Formed in order to better defend against the Decepticons, the Galactic Defense Force led by Star Saber help ensure that there's peace on ''most'' worlds. However, the anime shows that there are ferocious battles fought in Sector 2 of the Alliance's space, where God Ginrai's Autobots and Overlord's Decepticons [[GreatOffscreenWar engage in battle throughout the series]], but overall most worlds and locations (like Iron Town from the first episode) seem like pretty nice places to live barring the occasional Decepticon attack.

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* In the backstory to ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'', [[TheWarJustBefore the Great War]] was fought between the Decepticon Empire and the Autobot Commonwealth. While the Autobots won the war and the Decepticons accepted amnesty and exile, the war outright ''[[EarthShatteringKaboom destroyed]]'' several colony worlds on both sides. Descriptions in the [[AllThereInTheManual Allspark Almanac]] suggests that the "New Decepticon Empire" functions like a real empire i.e. each world is ruled by its own governor, but they all answer to Megatron. Even Megatron's reach has its limits, though. Straxus rules the planet Lucifer with an iron grip, turning it into a hellhole. He's still a Decepticon and led an attack on the Autobot space bridges as requested, but otherwise he pretty much does whatever he wants.
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* In ''Literature/HouseOfSuns'', no society has persisted for more than a few hundred thousand years courtesy of there being no FasterThanLightTravel or SubspaceAnsible technology; empires have formed then slowly started to unravel and break apart from internal or external pressures and [[EternalRecurrence have done so for the past six million years]]. Hell, it’s stated that going interstellar actually ''shortens'' the lifespan of a civilization. The only constant in the galaxy are the Lines such as Gentian Line: one thousand clones of a woman that lived in the 31st century at the start of humanity's interstellar colonization who live exclusively aboard spaceships that jet around at near-lightspeed, and so due to TimeDilation pass millions of years despite experiencing only thousands.

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* In ''Literature/HouseOfSuns'', no interstellar society has persisted for more than a few hundred thousand years courtesy of there being no FasterThanLightTravel or SubspaceAnsible technology; empires have formed then slowly started to unravel and break apart from internal or external pressures and [[EternalRecurrence have done so for the past six million years]]. Hell, it’s stated that going interstellar actually ''shortens'' the lifespan of a civilization. The only constant in the galaxy are the Lines such as Gentian Line: one thousand clones of a woman that lived in the 31st century at the start of humanity's interstellar colonization who live exclusively aboard spaceships that jet around at near-lightspeed, and so due to TimeDilation pass millions of years despite experiencing only thousands.

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* In ''Literature/HouseOfSuns'', no interstellar society has persisted for more than a few hundred thousand years courtesy of there being no FasterThanLightTravel or SubspaceAnsible technology; empires have formed then slowly started to unravel and break apart from internal or external pressures and [[EternalRecurrence have done so for the past six million years]]. Hell, it’s stated that going interstellar actually ''shortens'' the lifespan of a civilization. The only constant in the galaxy are the Lines such as Gentian Line: one thousand clones of a woman that lived in the 31st century at the start of humanity's interstellar colonization who live exclusively aboard spaceships that jet around at near-lightspeed, and so due to TimeDilation pass millions of years despite experiencing only thousands.
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* In ''Literature/HouseOfSuns'', no interstellar society has persisted for more than a few hundred thousand years courtesy of there being no FasterThanLightTravel or SubspaceAnsible technology; empires have formed then slowly started to unravel and break apart from internal pressure and [[EternalRecurrence have done so for the past six million years]]. The only constant in the galaxy are the Lines such as Gentian Line: one thousand clones of a woman that lived in the 31st century at the start of humanity's interstellar colonization via SleeperStarship, who gather every 250,000 years.

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* In ''Literature/HouseOfSuns'', no interstellar society has persisted for more than a few hundred thousand years courtesy of there being no FasterThanLightTravel or SubspaceAnsible technology; empires have formed then slowly started to unravel and break apart from internal pressure or external pressures and [[EternalRecurrence have done so for the past six million years]]. Hell, it’s stated that going interstellar actually ''shortens'' the lifespan of a civilization. The only constant in the galaxy are the Lines such as Gentian Line: one thousand clones of a woman that lived in the 31st century at the start of humanity's interstellar colonization via SleeperStarship, who gather every 250,000 years.live exclusively aboard spaceships that jet around at near-lightspeed, and so due to TimeDilation pass millions of years despite experiencing only thousands.

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