History Main / ThoseTwoBadGuys

* EvilDuo: A pair of villains, one of whom is bossy and controlling, the other is simple-minded, corresponding to the Superego and the Id of the FreudianTrio.

* BumblingHenchmenDuo: A pair of comically incompetent villains, typically working for a major villain.

* BanteringBaddieBuddies: A duo of FauxAffablyEvil villains who engage in humorous banter while committing crimes.

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->''"But, Mister Croup, we hurt people. We don't get hurt."\\
Mr. Croup turned out the lights. "Oh, Mister Vandemar," he said, enjoying the sound of the words, as he enjoyed the sound of all words, "if you cut us, do we not bleed?"\\
Mr. Vandemar pondered this for a moment, in the dark. Then he said, with perfect accuracy, "No."''
-->-- ''Literature/{{Neverwhere}}''

"[[MisterXAndMisterY Mister Rope]], I believe someone's [[NoFourthWall reading our entry]]."

"Why, [[OneLinerNameOneLiner so it appears, Mister Liche, so it appears.]]"

"Do you think we should [[SelfDemonstratingArticle explicate ourselves,]] Mister Rope?"

"I do, indeed, Mister Liche. Salutations, reader. I am Mister [[PunnyName Thaddeus Rope]], a man of the [[AxCrazy hatchet]], as you might say, and this is my companion, Mister [[StevenUlyssesPerhero Clive Liche]], a personal [[HighPressureBlood exsanguinator]]."

"May I continue with the [[MrExposition expositionizing]], Mister Rope?"

"You certainly may, Mister Liche."

"Alright then, reader, you may notice something familiar about us. We may [[DelusionsOfEloquence talk funnywise]], yes, and one of us may have a bit [[BrainsAndBrawn more smarts than the other]]. We're independent [[{{Malaproper}} constrictors]], y'see?"

"I believe you mean [[PsychoForHire contractors]], Mister Liche."

"That I did, Mister Rope, thank you. Now, because of our potential, many writers use us in various forms. Don't they, Mister Rope?"

"They do indeed, Mister Liche, they do indeed. In fact, that's why we're here, because so many writers like to use us and our penchant for exposition and [[MurderInc execution]]."

"And because of our [[ShapedLikeItself killing people]], right, Mister Rope?"

"That's right, Mister Liche. I believe that's all, reader. Anything you want to add, Mister Liche?"

"No, Mister Rope, I never did like maths. Sleep tight, reader."

"Yes, reader, sleep tight."
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Those Two Bad Guys are a pair of bad guys who not only provide bloodshed, but also exposition in the form of conversation between them; [[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant not to be confused with]] ThoseTwoGuys, though the two aren't mutually exclusive. They are usually {{foil}}s for each other; commonly BrainsAndBrawn, and sometimes RedOniBlueOni. They probably also look different, in such ways as FatAndSkinny or SaltAndPepper. When they show up in a video game, you can usually count on the player facing them as a DualBoss at some point. Can also be a BigBadDuumvirate.

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!!Example Subpages:

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* ThoseTwoBadGuys/AnimeAndManga
* ThoseTwoBadGuys/ComicBooks
* [[ThoseTwoBadGuys/AnimatedFilms Films — Animation]]
* [[ThoseTwoBadGuys/LiveActionFilms Films — Live-Action]]
* ThoseTwoBadGuys/{{Literature}}
* ThoseTwoBadGuys/LiveActionTV
* ThoseTwoBadGuys/VideoGames
* ThoseTwoBadGuys/WesternAnimation
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!!Other Examples:

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[[folder:Fan Works]]
* ''Fanfic/DungeonKeeperAmi'' gives us the indominable [[CrazyAwesome Mukrezar]], and his ever-attentive [[WickedCultured Imp Butler]]. Their subplot mostly involves Mukrezar comeing up with [[ZanyScheme zany schemes]] that are as improbable as a pretty elf with long, luscious, lovely pink locks trying to brutally murder everyone and everything in sight (in an awesome manner). Oh, wait...
* [[spoiler:Bachiko and Meiko]] in ''Fanfic/PerfectionIsOverrated'', although their status as "bad guys" is not initially apparent. They're also the only two [[ParodySue SUEs]] who [[VillainousFriendship can actually work together]], [[spoiler:and because they are each other's most important people, they die when their Childs are destroyed]].
* ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsMagicalGirls'' has Snips and Snails serving in this capacity to Sunset Shimmer for the first half of the Magic Arc. [[spoiler: Then Snips is killed by Spike in an UnstoppableRage for shooting Twilight, and Sunset sacrifices Snails to Chrysalis to appease her. This leads to [[FromNobodyToNightmare Snails becoming Eskarrg]], Chrysalis' [[TheDragon Dragon]], in the Loyalty Arc.]]
* In ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Crabbe and Goyle are faithfully following minions clichés and call each other "Mr. Crabbe" and "Mr. Goyle".
* When [[WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail Cat R. Waul]] and [[WesternAnimation/TheGreatMouseDetective Professor Ratigan]] [[VillainTeamUp ally with each other]] in ''Fanfic/OliviaGoesWest'', their respective [[CoDragons sidekicks]], [[SpidersAreScary Chula]] and [[BatOutOfHell Fidget]], often work together in carrying out their bosses' orders.
* ''Fanfic/OutOfTheCornerOfTheEye'' has [[EvilSorcerer Francis White]] and [[BrainInAJar Ephraim Waite]] serve as this among the Mythos cultists.
* In ''Fanfic/EquestriaDivided'' Trixie is TheInquisitorGeneral and Snips and Snails are her lackies.
* ''Fanfic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness'': Akua and Kahlua serve as such during Acts II and III, being Kiria's CoDragons in Fairy Tale. When Moka realizes in chapter 42 that Akua has been working for Fairy Tale all along, Kokoa instantly deduces that Kahlua is part of the organization as well because "that damned brat never leaves [Akua's] side for anything."
* ''Fanfic/PersonaTheSougawaFiles'' has Nobuyuki Itou and Yuudai Honda, who even get little segments at the end of chapters where they provide exposition on the Shadow Syndicate. They never actually work together in combat due to Yuudai being more of an EvilGenius, but they still share the core dynamic.
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[[folder:Pinballs]]
* Bud and Buzz from ''Pinball/NoGoodGofers''.
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[[folder:Pro Wrestling]]
* Wrestling/{{Edge}} and Wrestling/{{Christian}} used to do this routine back in their days as a {{tag team}}. Most notably, during their time in the [=Team RECK=] stable, where they'd discuss Wrestling/{{Kurt Angle}}'s current scheme and provide exposition on what was bothering Angle that day.
* The "Chicago Girls", Nikki St. John and Taylor Made, served as such for Melanie Cruise. One liners and banter among themselves they did well; trying to have the latter cut lone promos turned out to be [[DullSurprise a disaster]].
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[[folder:Roleplay]]
* As of V4, ''Roleplay/SurvivalOfTheFittest'' has Richards and Baines. Although the terrorists are often used as vehicles for exposition, it tends to be this pairing more than any others, particularly given their penchant for not keeping secrets too well.
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[[folder:Tabletop Games]]
* In the prologue to the ''TabletopGame/{{Scion}}'' sourcebook ''Hero'', Hugin and Munin, Odin's two talking ravens, behave this way. Although they're not so much "bad" as they are not very nice at all.
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[[folder:Theatre]]
* The Fox and the Cat in the opera ''Theatre/TheAdventuresOfPinocchio'' definitely qualify. Although a bit bumbling, and definitely comedic, their scenes can be ''intensely'' creepy. [[HoYay And also a bit something else.]] They might not ''kill'' anyone outright, as they're rather poor at their jobs and more tricksters than assassins, but they certainly make a good try at it. (Such as ''trying to lynch Pinocchio for the five gold coins he got out of sympathy from the puppet show owner''.)
* Rosencrantz and Guildenstern of ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'' and ''Theatre/RosencrantzAndGuildensternAreDead'' fame counted -- they might not be straight up villains in ''Hamlet'' but they definitely qualify.
* A few Creator/WilliamShakespeare cases, especially the two killers sent after Clarence in ''Theatre/RichardIII'', and Chiron and Demetrius in ''Theatre/TitusAndronicus''.
* ''The Dumb Waiter'' is all about ThoseTwoBadGuys.
* The First Man and Second Man from ''Theatre/KissMeKate'' don't kill anyone on stage, but they are mobsters and they talk an awful lot.
* Music/KurtWeill's opera ''Die Bürgschaft'' has a recurring trio of nameless villains who adopt NewJobsAsThePlotDemands, ranging from conspiring against Mattes and Orth to doing dirty work for them.
* Goldberg and [=McCann=] in ''Theatre/TheBirthdayParty''.
* Jessie and James in ''Theatre/PokemonLive''.
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[[folder:Visual Novels]]
* The two {{Yakuza}} thugs in ''VisualNovel/PrincessEvangile'', who constantly pursue Masaya after his father entrusts his 10 million yen debt to his son. While the boss is AffablyEvil and is mainly focused on business, his underling is [[AxCrazy much more unhinged]] and resorts to violence and intimidation as a first resort.
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[[folder:Web Animation]]
* ''WebAnimation/BrokenSaints'' has two pairs: {{Sociopathic Soldier}}s Lt. Charles and Lt. Bravado, and strip club bouncers Phobos and Deimos. Also, all four of them could qualify as {{Giant Mook}}s.
* ''WebAnimation/BowsersKingdom'' has Hal and Jeff.
* ''WebAnimation/DSBTInsaniT'': [[PoisonousPerson Michael and Ashley.]] Both of them are out to destroy technology, but they both are each others weakness.
* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': Emerald and Mercury are VitriolicBestBuds who work under Cinder and complete missions as partners, with Mercury being the muscle and Emerald being the manipulator. They are introduced light-heartedly teasing each other before murdering a man in cold blood, and later joking about him.
* ''WebAnimation/TheWaltenFiles'': Bon the Rabbit and Sha the Sheep. If one is present, the other usually is as well. [[spoiler: Considering that the people possessing them are husband and wife, respectively, it makes sense that the two would appear together quite often.]]
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[[folder:Web Comics]]
* Dom and Ed from ''Webcomic/MegaTokyo'', though they are enemies.
* The Caterers of Calumny, Texto Porfiria and Zuzux Uzbochs, in ''Webcomic/UnicornJelly''. Their favorite modus operandi is rather unusual -- they pose as caterers and serve poisoned food.
* Hunter and Arcturus from ''Webcomic/SuicideForHire'' are a VillainProtagonist variation.
* The [[LizardFolk reptilian]] {{bounty hunter}}s Gannji and Enor from ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' when they count as {{Punch Clock Villain}}s.
* The two robbers in one of the earlier ''Webcomic/{{Girly}}'' arcs. Arguably, the two-headed turtle may fit in this category as well.
* ''Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob'':
** The recurring [[TheMenInBlack Men in Black,]] Agent Ben and Agent Jerry. They're LawfulStupid rather than evil, but they still always function as antagonists. Ben's the tall, thin, laid back one. Jerry's the short, fat, grouchy one. They tend to get mistaken for Film/TheBluesBrothers.
** They haven't shown up as often, but there's also the [[MadScientist Rogue Canadian Scientists,]] ''and'' the [[SpacePirate Pirates of Ipecac]]. Both pairs have been seen most recently working for [[GreaterScopeVillain Bigger Bads]].
* Up until the latter's HeelFaceTurn, Stunt and Bumper were very much this for Webcomic/DominicDeegan.
* ''Webcomic/BouletCorp'': In [[http://english.bouletcorp.com/2008/12/20/pizza-mafia/ "Pizza Mafia"]], Boulet recounts a sighting of what he suspects was a [[TruthInTelevision real-life example]] of such a pair.
* ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'': Lord English's dimwit minions Eggs and Biscuits are hardly seen without each other. Probably because they can combine their abilities to make infinite copies of themselves.
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[[folder:Web Videos]]
* WebVideo/DiamandaHagan furfills this role together with the Omega, who's a PunchClockVillain ''at best'', in a crossover movie not related to [[Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses Channel Awesome]].
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[[folder:Professional Wrestling]]

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[[folder:Pro Wrestling]]

* When [[WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail Cat R. Waul]] and [[Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective Professor Ratigan]] [[VillainTeamUp ally with each other]] in ''Fanfic/OliviaGoesWest'', their respective [[CoDragons sidekicks]], [[SpidersAreScary Chula]] and [[BatOutOfHell Fidget]], often work together in carrying out their bosses' orders.

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* The "Chicago Girls", Nikki St. John and Taylor Made, served as such for Melanie Cruise.

!!Example subpages

* ThoseTwoBadGuys/{{Theater}}

!!Other examples:

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* ThoseTwoBadGuys/AnimatedFilms
* ThoseTwoBadGuys/LiveActionFilms

!!Examples:

* In ''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Crabbe and Goyle are faithfully following minions clichés and call each other "Mr. Crabbe" and "Mr. Goyle".

* ''FanFic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness'': Akua and Kahlua serve as such during Acts II and III, being Kiria's CoDragons in Fairy Tale. When Moka realizes in chapter 42 that Akua has been working for Fairy Tale all along, Kokoa instantly deduces that Kahlua is part of the organization as well because "that damned brat never leaves [Akua's] side for anything."

[[folder:Web Original]]
* As of V4, ''Roleplay/SurvivalOfTheFittest'' has Richards and Baines. Although the terrorists are often used as vehicles for exposition, it tends to be this pairing more than any others, particularly given their penchant for not keeping secrets too well.

* From the point of view of the MarySue victims, most ''WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'' agent pairs are this. The agents' opinions may vary.

Those Two Bad Guys are a pair of bad guys who not only provide bloodshed, but also exposition in the form of conversation between them; [[IThoughtItMeant not to be confused with]] ThoseTwoGuys, though the two aren't mutually exclusive. They are usually {{foil}}s for each other; commonly BrainsAndBrawn, and sometimes RedOniBlueOni. They probably also look different, in such ways as FatAndSkinny or SaltAndPepper. When they show up in a video game, you can usually count on the player facing them as a DualBoss at some point. Can also be a BigBadDuumvirate.

Those Two Bad Guys are a pair of bad guys who not only provide bloodshed, but also exposition in the form of conversation between them; [[IThoughtItMeant not to be confused with]] ThoseTwoGuys. They are usually {{foil}}s for each other; commonly BrainsAndBrawn, and sometimes RedOniBlueOni. They probably also look different, in such ways as FatAndSkinny or SaltAndPepper. When they show up in a video game, you can usually count on the player facing them as a DualBoss at some point. Can also be a BigBadDuumvirate.