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* ''WesternAnimation/FinalSpace'': The Titans are ancient, eldritch creatures that wreck havoc the universe once and are worshiped in some planets.

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* ''WesternAnimation/FinalSpace'': The Titans are ancient, eldritch creatures that wreck havoc the universe once and are worshiped in some planets. That is until they were corrupted by the primordial demon Invictus.
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* In ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura'' you can find altars to the old pagan gods, who were worshiped before the rise of [[CrystalDragonJesus Panarii religion]]. Though almost forgotten in most places, it appears they are still powerful, as you can receive blessings from them.
* Played with in ''VideoGame/CookieClicker'': The elder gods are ''literal'' elders, as in old ladies... at first, at least. They start getting Lovecraftian when you piss them off.



* It's been referenced in the ''Franchise/SilentHill'' series.
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* It's been referenced ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series has [[GodOfGods Anu]] and [[TheAntiGod Padomay]], the {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of [[OrderVersusChaos "stasis/order/light" and "change/chaos/darkness"]], respectively. In the primary CreationMyth, their interplay in the ''Franchise/SilentHill'' series.
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great "void" of pre-creation [[TheMaker led to "creation" itself]]. Creation, sometimes anthropomorphized as the female entity "Nir", favored Anu, [[DrivenByEnvy which angered Padomay]]. Padomay killed Nir and [[EarthShatteringKaboom the twelve worlds]] she gave birth to. Anu then wounded Padomay, presuming him dead. Anu salvaged the pieces of the twelve worlds to create one world: Nirn. Padomay returned and wounded Anu, seeking to destroy Nirn. Anu then [[TakingYouWithMe pulled Padomay and himself outside of time]], ending Padomay's threat to creation "forever". From the [[PiecesOfGod intermingling of their spilled blood]] came the "et'Ada", or "original spirits", who would go on to become either [[OurGodsAreDifferent the Aedra or the Daedra]] depending on their actions during the creation of Mundus, the mortal plane. (Some myths state that the Aedra come from the mixed blood of Anu and Padomay, while the Daedra come purely from the blood of Padomay).
* Hydaelyn from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'', also called the Mothercrystal or "all made one", is a being implied to
have created the worldm and is far more ancient and powerful than the modern pantheon of the Twelve; she also acts as TheChooserOfTheOne, giving the [[PlayerCharacter Warrior of Light]] the power of the Echo. Despite this, not left many people know about Her existance, and has no official religion based around Her. Her dark counterpart Zodiark is implied to be as ancient and as powerful as Her. [[spoiler: ''Shadowbringers'' reveals this place..."-]is only an half truth: Hydaelyn and Zodiark are the oldest and most powerful...of Primals, and the civilization that created them was even more ancient. Hydaleyn also didn't ''create'' the world, she ''divided'' it, before replacing Zodiark as the Will of the Planet.]]



* In ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura'' you can find altars to the old pagan gods, who were worshiped before the rise of [[CrystalDragonJesus Panarii religion]]. Though almost forgotten in most places, it appears they are still powerful, as you can receive blessings from them.
* Played with in ''VideoGame/CookieClicker'': The elder gods are ''literal'' elders, as in old ladies... at first, at least. They start getting Lovecraftian when you piss them off.
* Hydaelyn from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'', also called the Mothercrystal or "all made one", is a being implied to have created the worldm and is far more ancient and powerful than the modern pantheon of the Twelve; she also acts as TheChooserOfTheOne, giving the [[PlayerCharacter Warrior of Light]] the power of the Echo. Despite this, not many people know about Her existance, and has no official religion based around Her. Her dark counterpart Zodiark is implied to be as ancient and as powerful as Her. [[spoiler: ''Shadowbringers'' reveals this is only an half truth: Hydaelyn and Zodiark are the oldest and most powerful...of Primals, and the civilization that created them was even more ancient. Hydaleyn also didn't ''create'' the world, she ''divided'' it, before replacing Zodiark as the Will of the Planet.]]
* Since the current ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' setting is [[FantasyKitchenSink littered with various gods and spirits]], there are inevitably some that fill this role.
** Most prominently there are the powerful EldritchAbomination entities referred to in-game as the Old Gods. They once ruled the world, but are now [[SealedEvilInACan imprisoned]] within it. Their [[LeakingCanOfEvil efforts to escape]] and reclaim the world are a recurring plot point throughout the game.
** In a more benevolent example, there are [[OurTitansAreDifferent the Titans]] who imprisoned the Old Gods, filled the world with life, and empowered the Dragonflights to watch over Azeroth in their absence.
** The Old Gods were eventually given their ''own'' old gods in the [[UltimateEvil Void]] [[DarkIsEvil Lords]], who were revealed to have sent the Old Gods into the universe to begin with in order to corrupt unborn titans and take over the universe with them.
** The Jailer, an immensely powerful being imprisoned within the Maw, a rough equivalent to hell, was introduced by explaining that he is more ancient than even the titans, who were formed near the beginning of time.
* In ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'''s first two games, you're told that once, the gods and demons lived in a somewhat turbulent balance with humanity. It changed when a certain somebody [[FromNobodyToNightmare got a few more followers]] and started to crush and [[{{Demonization}} demonize]] his opponents to add their power to his own, one by one. At the end, [[TheMagicGoesAway magic had been sealed]], most gods had been destroyed or imprisoned in the Abyss, and the lone guy was in command of a vast religion, so he retreated to rule in the dark. [[spoiler: If you didn't get it, the guy was [[GodIsEvil The Big Man Upstairs]], the Great Will, ''YHVH''.]]
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', those same gods are back as the Divine Powers. And they are ''pissed''.

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* In ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura'' you can find altars ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'':
** The Elder Gods supersede all other gods, but only show themselves
to the old pagan gods, who were worshiped before the rise champions of [[CrystalDragonJesus Panarii religion]]. Though almost forgotten in most places, it appears they are still powerful, as you can receive blessings from them.
* Played with in ''VideoGame/CookieClicker'': The elder gods are ''literal'' elders, as in old ladies... at first, at least. They start getting Lovecraftian when you piss them off.
* Hydaelyn from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'', also called the Mothercrystal or "all made one", is a being implied to have created the worldm and is far more ancient and powerful than the modern pantheon of the Twelve; she also acts as TheChooserOfTheOne, giving the [[PlayerCharacter Warrior of Light]] the power of the Echo. Despite this, not many people know about Her existance, and has no official religion based around Her. Her dark counterpart Zodiark is implied to be as ancient and as powerful as Her. [[spoiler: ''Shadowbringers'' reveals this is only an half truth: Hydaelyn and Zodiark are the oldest and most powerful...of Primals, and the civilization that created them was even more ancient. Hydaleyn also didn't ''create'' the world, she ''divided'' it, before replacing Zodiark as the Will of the Planet.]]
* Since the current ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' setting is [[FantasyKitchenSink littered with various
Mortal Kombat, typically lesser gods and spirits]], conquerors.
** In turn, said Elder Gods are afraid of a Primordial Titan, "The Old One", who is prophesized to eat the Elder Gods if the balance maintained by Mortal Kombat is not upheld.
** And ''VideoGame/MortalKombat11'' reveals
there are inevitably some that fill this role.
** Most prominently there are
''other'' Titans, such as Kronika, the powerful EldritchAbomination entities referred to in-game as Titan of Time. Whereas the Old Gods. They once ruled the world, but are now [[SealedEvilInACan imprisoned]] within it. Their [[LeakingCanOfEvil efforts to escape]] and reclaim the world are a recurring plot point throughout the game.
** In a more benevolent example, there are [[OurTitansAreDifferent the Titans]] who imprisoned the Old Gods, filled the world with life, and empowered the Dragonflights to watch over Azeroth in their absence.
** The Old
Elder Gods were eventually given their ''own'' old gods in the [[UltimateEvil Void]] [[DarkIsEvil Lords]], who were revealed to have sent control of the Old Gods into the universe to begin with in order to corrupt unborn titans and take cosmos, they have powers over the universe with them.
** The Jailer, an immensely powerful being imprisoned within the Maw, a rough equivalent to hell, was introduced by explaining that he is more ancient than even the titans, who were formed near the beginning
very laws of time.
physics themselves.
* In ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'''s first two games, you're told that once, the gods and demons lived in ''VideoGame/NightInTheWoods'' gives us [[spoiler:the Black Goat, a somewhat turbulent balance with humanity. It changed when a certain somebody [[FromNobodyToNightmare got a few more followers]] and started to crush and [[{{Demonization}} demonize]] his opponents to add their power to his own, one by one. At the end, [[TheMagicGoesAway magic had been sealed]], most gods had been destroyed or imprisoned in the Abyss, and the lone guy was in command of a vast religion, so he retreated to rule in the dark. [[spoiler: If you didn't get it, the guy was [[GodIsEvil The Big Man Upstairs]], the Great Will, ''YHVH''.]]
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', those same gods are back
creature "as black as the Divine Powers. And they are ''pissed''.space between stars" that lives in a hole in a long-abandoned mine. Unless sated with human sacrifices, he will bring destruction upon the town.]]



* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series has [[GodOfGods Anu]] and [[TheAntiGod Padomay]], the {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of [[OrderVersusChaos "stasis/order/light" and "change/chaos/darkness"]], respectively. In the primary CreationMyth, their interplay in the great "void" of pre-creation [[TheMaker led to "creation" itself]]. Creation, sometimes anthropomorphized as the female entity "Nir", favored Anu, [[DrivenByEnvy which angered Padomay]]. Padomay killed Nir and [[EarthShatteringKaboom the twelve worlds]] she gave birth to. Anu then wounded Padomay, presuming him dead. Anu salvaged the pieces of the twelve worlds to create one world: Nirn. Padomay returned and wounded Anu, seeking to destroy Nirn. Anu then [[TakingYouWithMe pulled Padomay and himself outside of time]], ending Padomay's threat to creation "forever". From the [[PiecesOfGod intermingling of their spilled blood]] came the "et'Ada", or "original spirits", who would go on to become either [[OurGodsAreDifferent the Aedra or the Daedra]] depending on their actions during the creation of Mundus, the mortal plane. (Some myths state that the Aedra come from the mixed blood of Anu and Padomay, while the Daedra come purely from the blood of Padomay).
* ''VideoGame/NightInTheWoods'' gives us [[spoiler:the Black Goat, a creature "as black as the space between stars" that lives in a hole in a long-abandoned mine. Unless sated with human sacrifices, he will bring destruction upon the town.]]

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series has [[GodOfGods Anu]] In ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'''s first two games, you're told that once, the gods and [[TheAntiGod Padomay]], the {{Anthropomorphic Personification}}s of [[OrderVersusChaos "stasis/order/light" demons lived in a somewhat turbulent balance with humanity. It changed when a certain somebody [[FromNobodyToNightmare got a few more followers]] and "change/chaos/darkness"]], respectively. In the primary CreationMyth, started to crush and [[{{Demonization}} demonize]] his opponents to add their interplay power to his own, one by one. At the end, [[TheMagicGoesAway magic had been sealed]], most gods had been destroyed or imprisoned in the great "void" Abyss, and the lone guy was in command of pre-creation [[TheMaker led a vast religion, so he retreated to "creation" itself]]. Creation, sometimes anthropomorphized rule in the dark. [[spoiler: If you didn't get it, the guy was [[GodIsEvil The Big Man Upstairs]], the Great Will, ''YHVH''.]]
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', those same gods are back
as the female entity "Nir", favored Anu, [[DrivenByEnvy which angered Padomay]]. Padomay killed Nir Divine Powers. And they are ''pissed''.
* It's been referenced in the ''Franchise/SilentHill'' series.
-->[-"The old gods have not left this place..."-]
* Since the current ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' setting is [[FantasyKitchenSink littered with various gods
and [[EarthShatteringKaboom the twelve worlds]] she gave birth to. Anu then wounded Padomay, presuming him dead. Anu salvaged the pieces of the twelve worlds to create one world: Nirn. Padomay returned and wounded Anu, seeking to destroy Nirn. Anu then [[TakingYouWithMe pulled Padomay and himself outside of time]], ending Padomay's threat to creation "forever". From the [[PiecesOfGod intermingling of their spilled blood]] came the "et'Ada", or "original spirits", who would go on to become either [[OurGodsAreDifferent the Aedra or the Daedra]] depending on their actions during the creation of Mundus, the mortal plane. (Some myths state spirits]], there are inevitably some that fill this role.
** Most prominently there are
the Aedra come from the mixed blood of Anu and Padomay, while the Daedra come purely from the blood of Padomay).
* ''VideoGame/NightInTheWoods'' gives us [[spoiler:the Black Goat, a creature "as black
powerful EldritchAbomination entities referred to in-game as the space between stars" Old Gods. They once ruled the world, but are now [[SealedEvilInACan imprisoned]] within it. Their [[LeakingCanOfEvil efforts to escape]] and reclaim the world are a recurring plot point throughout the game.
** In a more benevolent example, there are [[OurTitansAreDifferent the Titans]] who imprisoned the Old Gods, filled the world with life, and empowered the Dragonflights to watch over Azeroth in their absence.
** The Old Gods were eventually given their ''own'' old gods in the [[UltimateEvil Void]] [[DarkIsEvil Lords]], who were revealed to have sent the Old Gods into the universe to begin with in order to corrupt unborn titans and take over the universe with them.
** The Jailer, an immensely powerful being imprisoned within the Maw, a rough equivalent to hell, was introduced by explaining
that lives in a hole in a long-abandoned mine. Unless sated with human sacrifices, he will bring destruction upon is more ancient than even the town.]]titans, who were formed near the beginning of time.
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** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' goes further. The Ancient Gods (that is, the three goddesses) are still ''remembered'', but not commonly prayed to, and Hylia has become the central intercessor deity. Given her status as a DeityOfHumanOrigin and the very Virgin Mary-like shrines, it's safe to say that she is the new CrystalDragonJesus.
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** The C'tan, ancient gods that feed on the lifeforce of stars and predate all sentient life in the universe, and thus the other main gods in the setting [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly who are born from the dreams and emotions of sentient beings]]. Rather than being defeated by the younger gods as is typical of this trope, most of them were instead wiped out [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters by the army of undead robot soldiers they created to help them get rid of the new gods by killing the lifeforms that sustained them]]. Oops.
** The eldest of the gods born from the Warp, the Eldar Pantheon, were doomed by the hubris and hedonism of their own followers. The murderous depravity and debauchery of the Eldar birthed the Chaos god Slaanesh. Slaanesh then slaughtered most of the Pantheon (Cegorach fled into the Webway, Issa was "rescued" by the Chaos god Nurgle, and Khaine was shattered by Khorne).

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** The C'tan, ancient gods that feed on the lifeforce of stars and predate all sentient life in the universe, and thus older than the other main gods in the setting [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly who are born from the dreams and emotions of sentient beings]]. Rather than being defeated by the younger gods as is typical of this trope, most of them were instead wiped out [[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters by the army of undead robot soldiers they created to help them get rid of the new gods by killing the lifeforms that sustained them]]. Oops.
** The eldest of the gods born from the Warp, the Eldar Pantheon, were doomed by the hubris and hedonism of their own followers. The murderous depravity and debauchery of the Eldar birthed the Chaos god Slaanesh. Slaanesh then slaughtered most of the Pantheon (Cegorach fled into the Webway, Issa Isha was "rescued" by the Chaos god Nurgle, and Khaine was inadvertantly shattered by Khorne).
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** ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'' has the three dragons - [[GoodIsNotNice Siberys the Dragon Above]], [[OmnicidalManiac Khyber the Dragon Below]] and Eberron the Dragon Between - who became the three layers of the world at the beginning of time. While there are a few cults devoted to Khyber, the other two aren't directly worshiped much.

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** ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'' has the three dragons - [[GoodIsNotNice Siberys the Dragon Above]], [[OmnicidalManiac Khyber the Dragon Below]] and Eberron the Dragon Between - who became the three layers of the world at the beginning of time. While there are a few cults devoted to Khyber, the other two aren't directly worshiped worshipped much.
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** In some early ''early'' iterations of the Bible there are a few entities such as the Levithan that seemed to already be on Earth before God created anything without a clear origin, though it's questionable if you can really call those "gods" or...[[PrimordialChaos something else]].

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** In some early ''early'' iterations of the Bible there are a few entities such as the Levithan Leviathan that seemed to already be on Earth before God created anything without a clear origin, though it's questionable if you can really call those "gods" or...[[PrimordialChaos something else]].
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* Hydaelyn from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'', also called the Mothercrystal or "all made one", is a being implied to have created the worldm and is far more ancient and powerful than the modern pantheon of the Twelve; she also acts as TheChooserOfTheOne, giving the [[PlayerCharacter Warrior of Light]] the power of the Echo. Despite this, not many people know about Her existance, and has no official religion based around Her. Her dark counterpart Zodiark is implied to be as ancient and as powerful as Her. [[spoiler: ''Shadowbringers'' reveals this is only an half truth: Hydaelyn and Zodiark are the oldest and most powerful...of Primals, and the civilization that created them was even more ancient. Hydaleyn also didn't ''create'' the world, she ''divided'' it, before replacing Zodiark as the Will of the Planet.]]
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[[caption-width-right:350:On one side we have [[EldritchAbomination Ymir, the first being]]. On the other side, we have [[OurGodsAreGreater the gods]].]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:On one side we have [[EldritchAbomination Ymir, the first being]]. On the other side, we have [[OurGodsAreGreater [[OurGodsAreDifferent the gods]].]]
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* Myth/EgyptianMythology had the Ogdoad, an extremely ancient grouping of eight gods who personified abstract concepts, divided into couples: Nun/Naunet (PrimordialChaos), Kek/Kauket (darkness), Heh/Hauhet (infinity), and Amun/Amunet (invisibility). With the exception of Amun, who became the patron deity of Thebes and gradually merged with Ra as the TopGod of the Egyptian pantheon, their roles were restricted to the Egyptian cosmogony, and they had no history of significant worship like the other deities.
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* In ''Literature/TheSecretsOfTheImmortalNicholasFlamel'', there are several successive generations of godlike beings. Youngest are the Next Generation (born after the fall of [[{{Atlantis}} Danu Talis]]), actually younger than the human race (who were created when the island still existed), then are their parents, the Elders (containing many well-known figures of myth, like Bastet, Odin, Mars, and Quetzalcoatl). Older than the Elders are the Archons, of whom we only see two ([[Myth/CelticMythology Cernunnos]] and [[Myth/AztecMythology Coatlicue]]). The Ancients are older than them, and are implied to be related to the Elders, but are never seen. Oldest of all are the Earthlords, of whom only two ([[spoiler:[[Myth/EgyptianMythology Isis and Osiris]]]]) are still alive by the time of the books.
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* The current ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' setting barely has any gods to predate, but there are nevertheless a few beings that fill a similar role.
** In the game's main world, there are powerful EldritchAbomination entities that are referred to as the Old Gods because they were worshiped as such by some of the mortal factions. They did once rule the world, but have now been [[SealedEvilInACan imprisoned]] within it.
** In a more benevolent example, there are [[OurTitansAreDifferent the Titans]] who imprissoned the Old Gods, filled the world with life, and empowered the Dragonflights to watch over Azeroth in their absence.
** The Old Gods were eventually given their ''own'' old gods in the [[UltimateEvil Void]] [[DarkIsEvil Lords]], who were revealed to have sent the Old Gods into the universe to begin with in order to corrupt unborn titans in which to take over the universe with.

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* The Since the current ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' setting barely has any is [[FantasyKitchenSink littered with various gods to predate, but and spirits]], there are nevertheless a few beings inevitably some that fill a similar role.
this role.
** In the game's main world, Most prominently there are the powerful EldritchAbomination entities that are referred to in-game as the Old Gods because they were worshiped as such by some of the mortal factions. Gods. They did once rule ruled the world, but have are now been [[SealedEvilInACan imprisoned]] within it.
it. Their [[LeakingCanOfEvil efforts to escape]] and reclaim the world are a recurring plot point throughout the game.
** In a more benevolent example, there are [[OurTitansAreDifferent the Titans]] who imprissoned imprisoned the Old Gods, filled the world with life, and empowered the Dragonflights to watch over Azeroth in their absence.
** The Old Gods were eventually given their ''own'' old gods in the [[UltimateEvil Void]] [[DarkIsEvil Lords]], who were revealed to have sent the Old Gods into the universe to begin with in order to corrupt unborn titans in which to and take over the universe with.with them.

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* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' barely considers anything a god in which to have a predecessor ''to'', but there are nevertheless a few beings that fill a similar role.

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* The current ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' setting barely considers anything a god in which has any gods to have a predecessor ''to'', predate, but there are nevertheless a few beings that fill a similar role.


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** In a more benevolent example, there are [[OurTitansAreDifferent the Titans]] who imprissoned the Old Gods, filled the world with life, and empowered the Dragonflights to watch over Azeroth in their absence.
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** The universe at large has the Old High Ones, so far above the gods that they view gods as being roughly the same thing as humans are. There are said to be [[ArcNumber eight]], but the only one mentioned individually is Azrael, the Great Attractor and Death of Universes, whose manifestations individual [[GrimReaper Deaths]] of different worlds are. He is something like galactic in size and has a clock that tells time what it is.

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** The universe at large has the Old High Ones, so far above the gods that they view gods as being roughly the same thing as humans are. There are said to be [[ArcNumber eight]], but the only one mentioned individually is Azrael, the Great Attractor and Death of Universes, whose manifestations who individual [[GrimReaper Deaths]] of different worlds are.are mere manifestations of. He is something like galactic in size and has a clock that tells time what it is.
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* In the ''Wiki/SCPFoundation'' universe, the Old Gods are a loose pantheon of eldritch deities.

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* In the ''Wiki/SCPFoundation'' universe, the Old Gods are a loose pantheon of eldritch deities. Members of this Lovecraftian pantheon include is the Scarlet King, Yaldabaoth, Mekhane, the Hanged King and several other deities.
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** Discord, God of Chaos (who already in the show is one of the most powerful beings but here it is CrankedUpToEleven)

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** Discord, God of Chaos (who already in the show is one of the most powerful beings but here it is CrankedUpToEleven)cranked UpToEleven)
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* Myth/JapaneseMythology: Izanami and Izanagi were the first humans, created by one god, who had them make more gods.

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* Myth/JapaneseMythology: Izanagi and Izanami and Izanagi were the first humans, created by one god, who had Ame-no-minakanushi in order for them make to create the Japanese islands and give birth to more gods.gods (and mortals) to inhabit the world.
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** God himself is both this and a GodOfGods, as he actually created the other gods for his own amusement.

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** Similarly vestiges also fit this mold;
---> ''"Beings that cannot exist inhabit a place that cannot be. Cursed by gods and feared by mortals, these entities fall outside the boundaries of life, death, and undeath. They are untouchable by even the most powerful deities, though they can be summoned and used by even the weakest mortal."'' - '''Tome of Magic'''

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** Similarly vestiges also fit this mold;
---> ''"Beings that cannot exist inhabit a place that cannot be. Cursed by
mold--they aren't necessarily older than gods (quite a few are fairly young), and feared by mortals, these entities fall they do not have the excessive power one would associate with a deity, but due to existing outside the boundaries of life, death, time and undeath. They are untouchable by even the most powerful deities, though space, they can be summoned are essentially beyond the purview of divine beings, and used by even the weakest mortal."'' - '''Tome of Magic'''are treated as untouchable, perhaps having always existed in some form.



** Then you have the dead gods floating about the astral plane, which are implied to be able to be restored to life somehow. Such as if people start worshiping them again, but there may be more to it than that.

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* [[ComicBook/NewGods "There came a time when the old gods died!"]]

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* [[ComicBook/NewGods ''ComicBook/NewGods'' opens with the declaration, "There came a time when the old gods died!"]]died!" The very phrase "Fourth World" is because the New Gods are merely the most recent iteration of pantheons that have risen and fallen multiple times, and will themselves eventually die off to make way for a new pantheon. (Kirby's original intent was that the Old Gods were the Norse pantheon--the series was pitched as a followup to his work on ''ComicBook/{{Thor}}'', and it's fairly easy to read ''New Gods'' as a StealthSequel.)
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** As Discworld is a place where GodsNeedPrayerBadly, it is often the case that "old gods do new jobs." In ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}'', [[spoiler: the first boogieman]] becomes the Tooth Fairy, and [[spoiler: the Hogfather]] has evolved into his current form over many millennia.

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** As Discworld is a place where GodsNeedPrayerBadly, it is often the case that "old gods do new jobs." In ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}'', ''Literature/{{Hogfather}}'', [[spoiler: the first boogieman]] becomes the Tooth Fairy, and [[spoiler: the Hogfather]] has evolved into his current form over many millennia.

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* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'':''Series/{{Supernatural}}'': There are various pagan gods running around, [[JerkassGods most of whom are assholes]]. However, the Primordials are even older, preceding the creation of the universe itself.
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* Tiamat and Apsu were the primal couple of Myth/MesopotamianMythology, ancestors of all the gods. They then turned on the gods and tried to wipe them out. The gods fought back and, under the leadership of Marduk, won. Marduk split Tiamat in two, made heaven and earth out of her body, and became king of the gods. At least in the Babylonian telling, which is the one that survived because [[WrittenByTheWinners Babylon conquered everyone else]]. Did we mention that Marduk was also the particular patron deity of Babylon?

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* Tiamat and Apsu were the primal couple of Myth/MesopotamianMythology, ancestors of all the gods. They then turned on the gods and tried to wipe them out. The gods fought back and, under the leadership of Marduk, won. Marduk split Tiamat in two, made heaven and earth out of her body, and became king of the gods. At least in the Babylonian telling, which is the one that survived gets the most press because [[WrittenByTheWinners Babylon conquered everyone else]]. Did we mention that Marduk was also the particular patron deity of Babylon?
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* Tiamat and Apsu were the primal couple of Myth/MesopotamianMythology, ancestors of all the gods. They then turned on the gods and tried to wipe them out. The gods fought back and, under the leadership of Marduk, won. Marduk split Tiamat in two, made heaven and earth out of her body, and became king of the gods.

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* Tiamat and Apsu were the primal couple of Myth/MesopotamianMythology, ancestors of all the gods. They then turned on the gods and tried to wipe them out. The gods fought back and, under the leadership of Marduk, won. Marduk split Tiamat in two, made heaven and earth out of her body, and became king of the gods. At least in the Babylonian telling, which is the one that survived because [[WrittenByTheWinners Babylon conquered everyone else]]. Did we mention that Marduk was also the particular patron deity of Babylon?
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* The Abrahamic God is this to all other religions according to the Bible, going so far as identifying idols worshipped by man as actually lower devils.

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* The Abrahamic God is this to all other religions according to the Bible, going so far as identifying idols gods worshipped by man as actually lower devils.
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** The Vanir and the Alfar: If any myths of the origin of the Vanir and Alfar ever existed they have since been lost. They ''ought to'' be descendants of either Borr, Búri's son and Odin's father, or of Vili and Ve, his brothers, to keep the origin myth consistent. The Vanir and the Aesir fought a war that ended in a truce. Following this truce the Vanir were relegated to Old Gods (except for a few, notably Freyr and Freyja, who were incorporated into the Aesir). Since most of the sources we have don't mention anything about them other than the war, their practice of seidr, and their home Vanaheim we hardly know anything about them. The Alfar faded into obscurity, only barely more divine than the mortal kindreds of dvergar and humans.

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** The Vanir (nature gods) and the Alfar: If any myths of the origin of the Vanir and Alfar ever existed they have since been lost. They ''ought to'' be descendants of either Borr, Búri's son and Odin's father, or of Vili and Ve, his brothers, to keep the origin myth consistent. The Vanir and the Aesir fought a war that ended in a truce. Following this truce the Vanir were relegated to Old Gods (except for a few, notably Freyr and Freyja, who were incorporated into the Aesir). Since most of the sources we have don't mention anything about them other than the war, their practice of seidr, and their home Vanaheim we hardly know anything about them. The Alfar faded into obscurity, only barely more divine than the mortal kindreds of dvergar (dwarfs) and humans.humans. Though the vanir Frey and Freya remained prominent, as well as their father, the sea god Njord - all three living among the Aesir.
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[[caption-width-right:350:On one side we have [[EldritchAbomination Ymir, the first being]]. On the other side, we have [[OurGodsAreDfferent the gods]].]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:On one side we have [[EldritchAbomination Ymir, the first being]]. On the other side, we have [[OurGodsAreDfferent [[OurGodsAreGreater the gods]].]]
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[[caption-width-right:350:On one side we have [[EldritchAbomination Ymir, the first being]]. On the other side, we have [[OurGodsAreDfferent the gods]].]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:On one side we have [[EldritchAbomination Ymir, the first being]]. On the other side, we have [[OurGodsAreDfferent the gods]].]]]]
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