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** Funnily enough, in Egypt, when the protestors had their elections and realized that their new leader would attempt to invade Israel ''again'', many who still remembered the whoopping Egypt recieved the last couple times they tried immediately worked to oust ''that'' guy from power, and hold a ''new'' set of elections with his party, understandably, not allowed to run.

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** Funnily enough, in Egypt, when the protestors had their elections and realized that their new leader would attempt to invade Israel ''again'', many who still remembered the whoopping Egypt recieved received the last couple times they tried immediately worked to oust ''that'' guy from power, and hold a ''new'' set of elections with his party, understandably, not allowed to run.
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* Several political scholars and critics in regards to the UsefulNotes/TheArabSpring, a series of uprisings and protest to establish liberal democracies in the Middle-East/North African region which was dominated by dictatorial regimes. In cases where the dictators were toppled, [[AnarchyIsChaos lawlessness soon broke out in their countries]] or [[TheFundamentalist religious fanatics]] that were [[EvilPowerVacuum previously held back by the previous dictators were able to fill the power void]] and ''turned even more despotic'' than their predecessors. The Western support for these uprisings turned cold and came to be bitterly referred to as the "Arab Winter", with many coming out in support of the [[BetterTheDevilYouKnow Syrian regime being supported despite its many flaws]] against [[TheHorde ISIL]].

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* Several political scholars and critics in regards to the UsefulNotes/TheArabSpring, a series of uprisings and protest to establish liberal democracies in the Middle-East/North African region which was dominated by dictatorial regimes. In cases where the dictators were toppled, [[AnarchyIsChaos lawlessness soon broke out in their countries]] or [[TheFundamentalist religious fanatics]] that were [[EvilPowerVacuum previously held back by the previous dictators were able to fill the power void]] and ''turned even more despotic'' than their predecessors. The Western support for these uprisings turned cold and came to be bitterly referred to as the "Arab Winter", with many coming out in support of the [[BetterTheDevilYouKnow Syrian regime being supported despite its many flaws]] against [[TheHorde ISIL]].

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* TheEvilsOfFreeWill/AnimeAndManga
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill/ComicBooks
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill/FanWorks
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill/{{Literature}}
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill/LiveActionTV
* TheEvilsOfFreeWill/VideoGames
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[[folder:Anime and Manga]]
* In ''Anime/AndroidKikaiderTheAnimation'', Golden Bat considers the Gemini circuit, which gives Jiro a conscience and the ability to refuse orders, a tragedy for Jiro. The circuit compels Jiro to fight against his robotic kindred while his status as a robot alienates him from humanity, leaving him an outcast.
* In ''Manga/{{Appleseed}}'', mankind has grown tired of constant warfare and created [[ArtificialHuman biodroids]] to act as mediators, together with an [[DeusEstMachina AI]] to act as an overseer. The main conflict revolves around whether humanity is unfairly being suppressed in the not-quite-utopia, [[RousseauWasRight salvageable]] through the aid of the biodroids or are they the [[RobotRebellion only stain left]] in an otherwise perfect society.
* This is basically what Schneizel el Britannia of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' believes, and intends to have any revolting nation [[spoiler:nuked by [[WeaponOfMassDestruction FLEIJA]] from the nigh-impenetrable floating fortress Damocles]].
** Also there was Charles zi Britannia's plan of [[spoiler:destroying the "gods" to merge every person, [[AssimilationPlot living and dead, into one being]]. This would effectively remove any free will and make sure nothing ever advanced]].
* Light Yagami's plan for the world in ''Manga/DeathNote'' ([[MotiveDecay before things spiraled further down]]). People can be bad if they really want to, but it's always paid back by death, unrelenting and immediate. Anything that goes against Light's high standards - even, eventually, ''being lazy'' - earns the dissident a heart attack and vilification for standing in the way of justice.
* ''Super Android 13'', the Funimation dub of the 7th ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' movie does this. When Trunks gives the villain, an android who wants to kill Goku simply because he was programmed to, a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Reason You Suck Speech]] for having no free will and therefore pursuing a meaningless goal, said villain takes offense and counters that at least ''he's'' being evil because he has no other choice while humans and saiyans do evil things because they ''want'' to; he even argues that creatures with free will do worse things than he'd ''ever'' be capable of doing.
* The goal of the Claw in ''Anime/GunXSword'' is to overwrite the mind of every human being with his own, so that everyone is the same and there can be no disagreement.
* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'':
** Gihren Zabi of the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' gives a little speech about this, implying DemocracyIsBad. He then goes onto talk about how [[SocialDarwinist the weak]] and [[KillThePoor poor]] must be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName culled]].
** This is the singular objective of Gilbert Durandal, one of the two {{Big Bad}}s of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''. His [[TitleDrop Destiny]] Plan involves using genetic determinism to decide the roles of each and every person living in the Earthsphere in order to prevent free will from causing people's differing ideas from causing any more wars. It's also a source of contention over the plot by many in the community, for [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation various reasons]].
8** It's interesting to note that Durandal never claims to be making a Utopia. Quite the opposite; He knows full well that he's basically ushering in a totalitarian state, and potentially a {{Dystopia}}, but he believes such measures are the only way to [[InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves keep mankind from destroying itself]].
* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' revealed that this is the ultimate plan of series BigBad [[spoiler:Uchiha Madara. The one who executed this plan is not the real Madara but the real Madara had the same plan before he died]].
** [[spoiler:The ''true'' big bad, Kaguya Otsutsuki,]] shares the same goal, but their variation of the goal involves [[spoiler:turning every shinobi on the planet into obedient White Zetsu soldiers]].
* Ultimately the plan of [[spoiler:the British Library]] in ''Anime/RODTheTV''. An interesting wrinkle is that the people instigating the plan ''also'' planned on being rewritten along with everyone else.
* This is the driving force behind [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Faceas/Faysus Clay]] in the ''Manga/{{Strider}}'' manga: a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] with no regards for others and a preference for machines over human companions, he compares [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humanity's potential for doing evil]] to a computer glitch left behind by a careless God, and plans to "fix" this "factory error" by taking over humanity's free will through [[MindControlDevice a mind-control weapon]], creating an [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans utopian world]] with equality and no conflicts under his guidance.
* [[spoiler:The Anti-Spirals]] from ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' [[spoiler:want to wipe out Spiral Energy from the world and destroy the free will, motivation, and emotions from humankind]]. However, [[WellIntentionedExtremist they have a good reason for doing it]]: [[spoiler:overuse of Spiral Energy will result in Spiral Nemesis, which will destroy the universe. It's just that they see terrorism, brainwashing, and scare tactics as the way to prevent it from happening]]. Their methods are underhanded and soul crushing because the opposition ''is powered by determination and bravery''. Meeting them head on with violence is like fighting a fire with gasoline.
* This is the purpose of the Superior Domination system in ''Manga/TowardTheTerra''. When humans had free will, they rendered Earth uninhabitable through reckless greed; the obvious solution is a computer-run police state InSpace. The character arc of the AntiVillain rests on his complex and fluctuating relationship with this trope.
* This is one of the main driving forces in ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' as the Knights of Hanoi believe that giving the Ignis free will, they will turn against the human race. The main antagonist thinks of free will as a mutation and can't comprehend why the other Ignis chose to side with humans, so he wants to unite all Ignis and enslave the human race to prevent this.

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[[folder:Anime and Manga]]
[[folder:Films -- Animated]]
* In ''Anime/AndroidKikaiderTheAnimation'', Golden Bat considers the Gemini circuit, which gives Jiro a conscience and the ability to refuse orders, a tragedy for Jiro. The circuit compels Jiro to fight against his robotic kindred while his status as a robot alienates him from humanity, leaving him an outcast.
* In ''Manga/{{Appleseed}}'', mankind has grown tired of constant warfare and created [[ArtificialHuman biodroids]] to act as mediators, together with an [[DeusEstMachina AI]] to act as an overseer. The main conflict revolves around whether humanity is unfairly being suppressed in the not-quite-utopia, [[RousseauWasRight salvageable]] through the aid of the biodroids or are they the [[RobotRebellion only stain left]] in an otherwise perfect society.
* This is basically what Schneizel el Britannia of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' believes, and intends to have any revolting nation [[spoiler:nuked by [[WeaponOfMassDestruction FLEIJA]] from the nigh-impenetrable floating fortress Damocles]].
** Also there was Charles zi Britannia's plan of [[spoiler:destroying the "gods" to merge every person, [[AssimilationPlot living and dead, into one being]]. This would effectively remove any free will and make sure nothing ever advanced]].
* Light Yagami's plan for the world in ''Manga/DeathNote'' ([[MotiveDecay before things spiraled further down]]). People can be bad if they really want to, but
''WesternAnimation/TrollsWorldTour'', it's always paid back by death, unrelenting and immediate. Anything revealed that goes against Light's high standards - even, eventually, ''being lazy'' - earns there are six major tribes of Trolls, each based on a different genre of music: Pop, Rock, Techno, Funk, Classical, and Country. BigBad Queen Barb, of the dissident a heart attack Rock Kingdom, genuinely believes that all of the Trolls should be united instead...the trouble is, she thinks that the different genres and vilification for standing freedom to choose are getting in the way of justice.
* ''Super Android 13'', the Funimation dub of the 7th ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' movie does this. When Trunks gives the villain, an android who wants to kill Goku simply because he was programmed to, a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Reason You Suck Speech]] for having no free will and therefore pursuing a meaningless goal, said villain takes offense and counters
that at least ''he's'' being evil because he has no other choice while humans and saiyans do evil things because they ''want'' to; he even argues that creatures with free will do worse things than he'd ''ever'' be capable of doing.
* The goal of the Claw in ''Anime/GunXSword'' is to overwrite the mind of every human being with his own, so that everyone is the same and there can be no disagreement.
* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'':
** Gihren Zabi of the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' gives a little speech about this, implying DemocracyIsBad. He then goes onto talk about how [[SocialDarwinist the weak]] and [[KillThePoor poor]] must be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName culled]].
** This is the singular objective of Gilbert Durandal, one of the two {{Big Bad}}s of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''. His [[TitleDrop Destiny]] Plan involves using genetic determinism to decide the roles of each and every person living in the Earthsphere in order to prevent free will from causing people's differing ideas from causing any more wars. It's also a source of contention over the plot by many in the community, for [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation various reasons]].
8** It's interesting to note that Durandal never claims to be making a Utopia. Quite the opposite; He knows full well that he's basically ushering in a totalitarian state, and potentially a {{Dystopia}}, but he believes such measures are the only way to [[InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves keep mankind from destroying itself]].
* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' revealed that this is the ultimate plan of series BigBad [[spoiler:Uchiha Madara. The one who executed this plan is not the real Madara but the real Madara had the same plan before he died]].
** [[spoiler:The ''true'' big bad, Kaguya Otsutsuki,]] shares the same goal, but their variation of the goal involves [[spoiler:turning every shinobi on the planet into obedient White Zetsu soldiers]].
* Ultimately the plan of [[spoiler:the British Library]] in ''Anime/RODTheTV''. An interesting wrinkle is that the people instigating the plan ''also'' planned on being rewritten along with everyone else.
* This is the driving force behind [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Faceas/Faysus Clay]] in the ''Manga/{{Strider}}'' manga: a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] with no regards for others and a preference for machines over human companions, he compares [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humanity's potential for doing evil]] to a computer glitch left behind by a careless God, and
goal. Barb thus plans to "fix" this "factory error" by taking over humanity's free will through [[MindControlDevice a mind-control weapon]], creating an [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans utopian world]] with equality and no conflicts under his guidance.
* [[spoiler:The Anti-Spirals]] from ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' [[spoiler:want to wipe out Spiral Energy from the world and
destroy the free will, motivation, and emotions from humankind]]. However, [[WellIntentionedExtremist they have a good reason for doing it]]: [[spoiler:overuse of Spiral Energy will result in Spiral Nemesis, which will destroy the universe. It's just that they see terrorism, brainwashing, and scare tactics as the way to prevent it from happening]]. Their methods are underhanded and soul crushing because the opposition ''is powered by determination and bravery''. Meeting them head on with violence is like fighting a fire with gasoline.
* This is the purpose of the Superior Domination system in ''Manga/TowardTheTerra''. When humans had free will, they rendered Earth uninhabitable through reckless greed; the obvious solution is a computer-run police state InSpace. The character arc of the AntiVillain rests on his complex and fluctuating relationship with this trope.
* This is one of the main driving forces in ''Anime/YuGiOhVRAINS'' as the Knights of Hanoi believe that giving the Ignis free will, they will turn against the human race. The main antagonist thinks of free will as a mutation and can't comprehend why the
all other Ignis chose to side music so that only Rock will exist, turning every single Troll into a "rock zombie" with humans, so he wants to unite all Ignis and enslave the human race to prevent this. no free will.



[[folder:Comic Books]]
* This is the core philosophy of ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, and one he seeks to bring about through obtaining the Anti-Life Equation. The creator of the ComicBook/{{New Gods}}, Creator/{{Jack Kirby}}, defined being alive as the ability to think and choose; therefore, his ultimate villain was a being inherently opposed to that very concept. Whenever he has gained the Anti-Life Equation, such as in JLA: Rock of Ages or ComicBook/FinalCrisis, Darkseid has used it to enslave all of humanity to his will, breaking their minds and destroying their very volition. There is no concept of "self" under his rule. There is no "free will". There is no "choice"...but to submit. For in his world, you are nothing, and '''Darkseid is.'''
* ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} once went up against an wannabe alien messiah of the LotusEaterMachine mold.
* Marvel had the ''ComicBook/EmperorDoom'' storyline. It was about Doctor Doom creating a giant MindControl device using the Purple Man and actually taking over the world with it, without anyone (except ComicBook/WonderMan) noticing, and turning it into a real utopia. It was interesting, first because there was an argument between the heroes about the rightness of stopping it, and second because Doom answered the "why should I be the one in control" question by literally removing his protective mask in front of the Purple Man and challenging him to try to control him. ''And it worked''.
* The Brain Drain in ''ComicBook/FinalCrisisAftermath: Dance'' promises to unite all of mankind and make all our lives easier by invading our minds for its sinister purposes.
* In ''ComicBook/GothamCityGarage'', ComicBook/LexLuthor designed his mind-control devices "Lexlocks" -later "Ridealongs"- to free the masses from a pesky thing called "independent thought".
-->'''Luthor:''' I have a problem that needs solving.\\
'''Harley:''' Premature hair loss?\\
'''Luthor:''' Free will. There tiny machines can be gradted to every human mind in my garden. They can control thought, behavior, preference, happiness. Wash away the sins of the Dark Age and give the world a clean slate. But they must do so without driving the cattle insane.
* ''ComicBook/GreenLantern'': The Guardians of Oa came around to this line of thought in the aftermath of the ComicBook/SinestroCorpsWar, the ComicBook/BlackestNight, and the ComicBook/BrightestDay. At first they believed chaos was caused by emotion, so they created an army of robotic Manhunters that lacked it. But without emotion the Manhunters had no qualms about following orders to murder a space sector's population. Then they believed chaos was caused by fear, so they created the Green Lantern Corps to fight it. But then they saw that fear wasn't the only source of chaos -- love, rage, greed, compassion, hope, and even the Green Lanterns' willpower could also add chaos. So the Guardians decided that emotion and '''free will''' were the source of chaos and created a Third Army that would replace the Lanterns and eradicate free will from the universe. It didn't work.

* The Dark Judges in ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'' present a particularly dark form of this trope - since all crime is committed by the living, life itself was outlawed in their universe, and now they seek to accomplish the same goal in Dredd's.
-->'''Judge Death:''' On Deadworld there is no robbery, no murder, no arson, no littering, no noisy parties to disturb the neighbors. No neighbors. No evil lurking in the hearts of men. No crime.
* ''ComicBook/{{Legacy}}'': After killing his master Darth Krayt, [[DragonAscendant Darth Wyyrlok]] sets into motion his plan for uniting the galaxy under the One Sith. How? By making ''everyone'' in the galaxy a Sith.
* This is the motivation of the BigBad, [[spoiler:Accord]] in issues 48 to 50 of ''ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW''. [[spoiler:After turning himself into a Spirit of Order, Accord begins brainwashing all of Equestria into a single massive MindHive, with himself as the HiveQueen. When confronted on this, he points out he's just being true to his nature: individual thoughts and personalities are inherently chaotic, and the ultimate root of disharmony. By making all creatures think with one single mind, removing individuality, he's bringing the ultimate from of order and harmony to Equestria.]]
* ''ComicBook/ScoobyApocalypse'': The Four, Velma's superiors at the Complex [[spoiler:(who are also her brothers)]], came to the conclusion that free will was the root cause of humanity's problems. That's why they altered Project Elysium, Velma's plan to use nanites to remove people's negative impulses, to instead turn people into obedient sheep. [[GoneHorriblyWrong Of course, this instead made the nanites go haywire and turn people into monsters]].
* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW'':
** This is given as the reason behind [[BigBad Dr Eggman]]'s world-conquering dream. Utterly despising how "filthy" and "irregular" the world is, Eggman, as the [[InsufferableGenius greatest genius that has ever lived]], feels compelled to mold it into his image of perfection by eliminating of what he deems as imperfections, including free will.
** Dr Starline shares Eggman's dislike of the chaotic and unorganized nature of the world he's planned to conquer and bring it to total order as envisioned by him. The main difference is rather than extolling the superiority of blind robotic obedience as Eggman does, Starline believes that living beings are superior to mindless machines and plans to create an army of cyborgs mentally programmed to be at his beck and call that would enact the world conquering for him.
* A mild version appears in the ''ComicBook/SquadronSupreme'' limited series. As part of their efforts to eliminate crime and war, the Squadron invents a behavior-modification machine and uses it (on a voluntary basis) on convicted criminals.
* In ''ComicBook/SupermanRedSon'', Superman believes this school of thought, having been raised by the Soviet government during the Cold War. Anyone who willingly disobeys Superman or Soviet Russia become a mind-controlled slave and work hard labor for the rest of their lives. The whole way through, however, Superman is genuinely convinced he is doing the ultimate good for the world and cannot understand why ComicBook/LexLuthor would so adamantly refuse to submit. Unlike many of the examples on this list, Soviet Superman cares for everyone on Earth from the bottom of his heart (even Luthor) and cannot bear to see any physical harm come to them, which is why he goes to such extremes to prevent that.
* ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'': Megatron holds these views. His endgame, after killing every Autobot, would be to rebuild Cybertron as the perfect utopia, with himself in charge, obviously. When asked by Optimus Prime about things like freedom, free will and personality responsibility, Megatron's response is simple: "They won't be missed." Which is DramaticIrony, because these were all things Megatron ''started'' the entire war for. MotiveDecay at its finest.

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[[folder:Films -- Live-Action]]
* The entire premise of ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau'' revolves around this, with a mysterious organization of supernatural beings manipulating human history in minor ways (making someone miss a bus, or lose their keys, ect.) ForTheGreaterGood. Unlike most example, however, they're presented as a [[AntiVillain genuinely benevolent group]], albeit staffed by a few [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]]. According to one agent, they ''did'' stop interfering in history, twice. The first time resulted in the Dark Ages, the second in two World Wars, the Holocaust, and the Cuban Missile Crisis. That said, [[spoiler:at the end of the film, [[{{God}} The Chairman]] decides to let the main characters make their own choices rather than following The Plan]].
* This is the core philosophy seems to be part of ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, and one he seeks to bring about through obtaining the Anti-Life Equation. The creator of the ComicBook/{{New Gods}}, Creator/{{Jack Kirby}}, defined being alive as the ability to think and choose; therefore, his ultimate villain was a being inherently opposed to Loki's plan in ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', though it's more or less rhetoric that very concept. Whenever he has gained the Anti-Life Equation, such as in JLA: Rock of Ages or ComicBook/FinalCrisis, Darkseid has used it uses to enslave all of humanity to justify his will, breaking their minds and destroying their very volition. There own selfish ambitions.
* The primary objective of [[spoiler:HYDRA]] in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier''
is no concept of "self" under his rule. There is no "free will". There is no "choice"...but to submit. For in his world, you are nothing, and '''Darkseid is.'''
* ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} once went up against an wannabe alien messiah of the LotusEaterMachine mold.
* Marvel had the ''ComicBook/EmperorDoom'' storyline. It was about Doctor Doom creating a giant MindControl device using the Purple Man and actually taking over
force the world with it, without anyone (except ComicBook/WonderMan) noticing, and turning it to ''reject'' free will by worrying them into a real utopia. It was interesting, first because there was an argument between giving it up for safety. [[spoiler:To achieve this objective, they corrupted SHIELD from within and used its resources to shape the heroes about world into the rightness era of stopping it, and second because Doom answered paranoia it is today.]]
* In
the "why should I be {{Mockumentary}}, ''[[Film/CSATheConfederateStatesOfAmerica The C.S.A.]]'', its stated that runaway slaves suffer from the one in control" question by literally removing his protective mask in front mental malady of ''drapetomania'', the Purple Man and challenging him "freedom illness", in which the afflicted believe that they don't want to try to control him. ''And it worked''.
*
be slaves. The Brain Drain in ''ComicBook/FinalCrisisAftermath: Dance'' Cartwright Institute for the Study of Freedom Illness promises its pupils to unite all of mankind be qualified in a few months to treat ''drapetomania'', "rascality," and make all our lives easier by invading our minds for its sinister purposes.
other "Negro peculiarities". The medicine contrari is marketed to slave owners to as a way to treat ''drapetomania'', though [[MayContainEvil it may actually just drug the victims]] into [[HappinessInSlavery mindless compliance]]. The final [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer montage at the end of the film]] shows that Dr. Cartwright was an actual person who did cook up ''drapetomania'' as another reason to justify slavery.
* In ''ComicBook/GothamCityGarage'', ComicBook/LexLuthor designed his mind-control devices "Lexlocks" -later "Ridealongs"- to free ''Film/DeadPoetsSociety'', Keating has the masses from students start to walk at their own pace, which turns into a pesky thing called "independent thought".
-->'''Luthor:''' I have a problem
military march with Keating counting off the cadence. When Dean Nolan asks what Keating was doing, Keating says that needs solving.it was an exercise to prove the evils of conformity, with Nolan reiterating that Welton's curriculum is tried and true, maintaining that the boys are too young to learn how to think for themselves:
-->'''Keating''': I always thought the idea of education was to learn to think for yourself.
\\
'''Harley:''' Premature hair loss?\\
'''Luthor:''' Free will. There tiny machines
'''Nolan''': At these boys' age? Not on your life!
* Though a paradise with no crime and high living standards, ''Film/DemolitionMan'' has the [[PoliticalOvercorrectness ultra-PC]] [[CrapsaccharineWorld San Angeles]], where everything that isn't good for you, including the traditional method of sex, is illegal. [[BigBad Simon Phoenix]] put it best to the new society's founder [[AffablyEvil Raymond Cocteau]]: "You're an evil Mister Rogers."
* ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' fits this like a Tetragrammaton Cleric's tailored glove. The anti-emotion DystopianEdict that powers the state of Libria
can be gradted to every human mind in my garden. They can control thought, behavior, preference, happiness. Wash away the sins of the Dark Age and give the world a clean slate. But they must do so without driving the cattle insane.
* ''ComicBook/GreenLantern'': The Guardians of Oa came around
boiled down to this line of thought in the aftermath of the ComicBook/SinestroCorpsWar, the ComicBook/BlackestNight, and the ComicBook/BrightestDay. At first they believed chaos was caused by emotion, so they created an army of robotic Manhunters that lacked it. But without emotion the Manhunters had no qualms about following orders to murder a space sector's population. Then they believed chaos was caused by fear, so they created the Green Lantern Corps to fight it. But then they saw that fear wasn't the only source of chaos -- love, rage, greed, compassion, hope, and even the Green Lanterns' willpower could also add chaos. So the Guardians decided that emotion and '''free will''' were the source of chaos and created a Third Army that would replace the Lanterns and eradicate free will from the universe. It didn't work.

* The Dark Judges in ''ComicBook/JudgeDredd'' present a particularly dark form of this trope - since all crime is committed by the living, life itself was outlawed in their universe, and now they seek to accomplish the same goal in Dredd's.
-->'''Judge Death:''' On Deadworld there is no robbery, no murder, no arson, no littering, no noisy parties to disturb the neighbors. No neighbors. No evil lurking in the hearts of men. No crime.
* ''ComicBook/{{Legacy}}'': After killing his master Darth Krayt, [[DragonAscendant Darth Wyyrlok]] sets into motion his plan for uniting the galaxy under the One Sith. How? By making ''everyone'' in the galaxy a Sith.
* This is the motivation of the BigBad, [[spoiler:Accord]] in issues 48 to 50 of ''ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW''. [[spoiler:After turning himself into a Spirit of Order, Accord begins brainwashing all of Equestria into a single massive MindHive, with himself as the HiveQueen. When confronted on this, he points out he's just being true to his nature: individual thoughts and personalities are inherently chaotic, and the ultimate root of disharmony. By making all creatures think with one single mind, removing individuality, he's bringing the ultimate from of order and harmony to Equestria.]]
* ''ComicBook/ScoobyApocalypse'': The Four, Velma's superiors at the Complex [[spoiler:(who are also her brothers)]], came to the conclusion that free will was the root cause of humanity's problems. That's why they altered Project Elysium, Velma's plan to use nanites to remove people's negative impulses, to instead turn people into obedient sheep. [[GoneHorriblyWrong
trope. Of course, this instead made there's no more envy, hate, or war, but humans are just automatons and state-sanctioned murder of thought-criminals is endemic.
* The BigBad in ''Film/TheFaculty'' gives a speech during
the nanites go haywire and turn people into monsters]].
* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW'':
** This is given as the reason behind [[BigBad Dr Eggman]]'s world-conquering dream. Utterly despising how "filthy" and "irregular" the
climax telling Casey that he could live in a world is, Eggman, as the [[InsufferableGenius greatest genius that has ever lived]], feels compelled to mold it into his image of perfection by eliminating of what he deems as imperfections, including free will.
** Dr Starline shares Eggman's dislike of the chaotic and unorganized nature of the world
in which he's planned to conquer no longer bullied, there are no more [[PopularityFoodChain cliques]], and bring it to total order as envisioned by him. The main difference is rather than extolling he and all of his classmates get along with each other in perfect harmony... if he surrenders and lets the superiority of blind robotic obedience as Eggman does, Starline believes PuppeteerParasite take him.
* ''Film/Fahrenheit4512018'': Beatty tells Montag people are just upset by the ideas
that living beings are superior to mindless machines and plans to create an army of cyborgs mentally programmed to be at his beck and call that would enact most books contain, especially philosophical ones, since they give conflicting opinions. His solution? One opinion. Better yet, none. Ironically, he uses the world conquering for him.debate on free will as an example of one with such upsetting opinions.
* The basis of the Community's philosophy in ''Film/TheGiver'', which the Chief Elder makes clear near the ending.

-->'''Chief Elder''': When people have the power to choose, they choose ''wrong.'' Every single time.
* A mild version appears ''Film/TheInvasion'': This is {{discussed}} in the ''ComicBook/SquadronSupreme'' limited series. As part of their efforts to eliminate crime film, and war, actually implied to be true. After the Squadron invents a behavior-modification machine and uses it (on a voluntary basis) on convicted criminals.
* In ''ComicBook/SupermanRedSon'', Superman believes this school of thought, having been raised by the Soviet government during the Cold War. Anyone who willingly disobeys Superman or Soviet Russia become a mind-controlled slave and work hard labor for the rest of their lives. The whole way through, however, Superman is genuinely convinced he is doing the ultimate good for the world and cannot understand why ComicBook/LexLuthor would so adamantly refuse to submit. Unlike many of the examples on this list, Soviet Superman cares for everyone on Earth
aliens take over, they don't actually do anything bad (aside from the bottom of his heart (even Luthor) control itself, or lessened emotions), but created world peace and cannot bear universal healthcare. The cure restores things to see any physical harm come to them, which is why he normal (i.e. all that goes away), and the film leaves it open whether this is really good.
* ''Franchise/TheMatrix'' trilogy is either a subversion or inversion. The Architect, when he designed the Matrix following the Machine victory in the RobotWar, did everything in his power
to such extremes to prevent that.
* ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'': Megatron holds these views. His endgame, after killing
create a [[{{Utopia}} perfect fantasy world]] where every Autobot, human would be to rebuild Cybertron as happy, but the perfect utopia, with himself in charge, obviously. When asked by Optimus Prime about things like freedom, free will and personality responsibility, Megatron's response is simple: "They won't be missed." Which is DramaticIrony, program failed because these people didn't accept it. So did a second version which brought [[{{Dystopia}} endless suffering]] instead. The Oracle realized that humans were all things Megatron ''started'' hard-wired to desire choice instead of either happiness or hardship, which simply couldn't be eradicated from the entire war for. MotiveDecay program to work.
* ''Film/{{Serenity}}'' has The Alliance, or
at its finest.least River Tam's interpretation of them, state "We're not telling people what to think. We're just trying to teach them how."
* This is the antagonist's position in ''Film/TheWorldsEnd''. They attempt their takeover through seemingly benevolent means, trying to keep the "Blanks" needed to a minimum while they teach and/or bring humanity to the "right" way, and have been doing so for decades; this being a dark comedy, they fail (or at least rationalize (until the heroes point it out)) that their "minimal" need, in one town alone, resulted in only four to six residents (of at least several thousand) ''not'' turned into Blanks.



[[folder:FanWorks]]
* ''Fanfic/AGrowingAffection'' has a minor example, the BigBad Gouki feels ninjas should give up their free will as a trade-off for their vast powers.
* ''Fanfic/TheImmortalGame'': [[BigBad Titan]] eventually comes to believe that the main "problem" with ponies, and the main cause of their rebellion against him and his perfect order, is their free will. As such, he prepares a spell to strip the whole species of it, turning the FinalBattle into a RaceAgainstTheClock to defeat him before the spell is ready.
* This is the very premise of ''Fanfic/OneLessLonelyGurl''. In this fanfic, the VillainProtagonist C'ren motive is [[spoiler:to transform the world into a SugarBowl free of rock music, goth culture, or anything "alternative". This then obviously leads to said world becoming a CrapsaccharineWorld]].
* ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureau'': Pony free will is fine. Humankind is violent and selfish, so removing our free will is acceptable.
* In ''Fanfic/EmpathTheLuckiestSmurf'', the purpose for the creation of Psychelia by the Psyche Master is to have a society completely obedient to him and free of the emotions that Smurfs and other beings have to deal with. They are also taught that they are not individuals but parts of a collective whole, which is why they are forbidden to identify themselves as anything but "this one".
* ''Fanfic/LinesAndWebs'': Celestia believes that total free will is the root cause of violence, and [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans in order to create a peaceful harmonious world]] ponies need to have their negative emotions magically culled.
* Discussed in ''Fanfic/{{Stardust|Arad}}'', where Discord states in chapter 31 that the reason the Elements of Harmony won't work against the alien invaders is because they adhere to their own twisted sense of Order. In the same chapter, he also states that he believes Celestia will fall into this line of thinking if he "released her". ''Fortitude Amicitia'' implies that [[spoiler:this is because she already has once.]]
* Discussed in ''Fanfic/AngelOfTheBat''. [[spoiler:According to Jesus (or maybe just a hallucination of him Cassandra saw)]], evil exists because people have the ability to choose to commit evil acts. While that does happen, he also claims that it is mankind's capacity and preference of doing good that makes him so proud.
* ''Fanfic/NeonGenesisEvangelionGenocide'': The Emerald Tablet is an advanced and very strange self-learning computer program that eventually develops a God complex and come to view humanity and its emotions and fragility as a problem that needs to be solved through what is forcible assimilation and the destruction of free will.
* In ''Fanfic/HellsisterTrilogy'', ComicBook/{{Darkseid}} declares Free Will is the root of all ills in the universe, and everything would work properly if everyone just did ''his'' bidding unquestioningly.
-->"The problem has always been that life is too random. If you give a man free will, what does he do with it? If you believe the Earth legends, he goes and bites a fruit he was told not to eat on pain of death. You can kill him, and you probably do. But does that stop other men from biting the fruit? No. So... the choices are... you can take away the fruit. You can kill him. Or you can do the intelligent thing, which is: take away his free will."\\
"Now, you must understand this: I have come to understand that it is the only way in which Life can continue, without destroying itself. The war was going on, hot and cold, when I was a child. I saw that. I don't fear it. I could not make it, if I feared it. But... it is tremendously inefficient. It wastes the lives of people you could control. It expends your resources. Leaves less for yourself. I saw all of this, my son. I saw, and knew, that Free Will... was a terrible, horrible, wretched mistake."\\
"That is, for everyone save me."
* Discussed in ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' ''Fanfic/ABoyAGirlAndADogTheLeithianScript''. The Valar consider destroying free will is something absolutely evil which only [[GodOfEvil Morgoth]] and his partisans would do... which is because the Valar are so miffed when Men and Elves choose to ignore their advices and warnings and then complain to them when their freely-made decisions have bad consequences.
* ''Fanfic/AkkoKagariUniverse'': After years of attempting to create peace between the humans & Demi-Humans and failing due to the rampant bigotry, The Great Witch Jennifer seeks to use the Claiomh Solais to destroy all individuality and bring all of mankind under one mind.
* ''Fanfic/CodePrime'':
** Schneizel gives this rationale as why he's aiding the Decepticons. In his view, humanity is driven by conflict and other self-destructive behaviors as a result of their very nature, and under Decepticon rule, everyone will be equal (or equally worthless, as Gino puts it), and they can bring order.
** In ''R2'', Megatron and Shockwave come to have this view for all sentient beings, [[spoiler:and are creating the Neo-Ragnarok plan, based off Charles and V.V.’s original Ragnarok plans, to erase this.]]

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* ''Fanfic/AGrowingAffection'' has a minor example, Featured at the BigBad Gouki feels ninjas should give up their free will as a trade-off end of Music/BreakingBenjamin's [[MusicAndMusicVideos offical music video]] for their vast powers.
* ''Fanfic/TheImmortalGame'': [[BigBad Titan]] eventually comes to believe that
[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beKJhyTh4uI "Dance With the main "problem" with ponies, and the main cause of their rebellion against him and his perfect order, is their free will. As such, he prepares a spell to strip the whole species of it, turning the FinalBattle into a RaceAgainstTheClock to defeat him before the spell is ready.
* This is the very premise of ''Fanfic/OneLessLonelyGurl''. In this fanfic, the VillainProtagonist C'ren motive is [[spoiler:to transform the world into a SugarBowl free of rock music, goth culture, or anything "alternative". This then obviously leads to said world becoming a CrapsaccharineWorld]].
* ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureau'': Pony free will is fine. Humankind is violent and selfish, so removing our free will is acceptable.
* In ''Fanfic/EmpathTheLuckiestSmurf'', the purpose for the creation of Psychelia by the Psyche Master is to have a society completely obedient to him and free of the emotions that Smurfs and other beings have to deal with. They are also taught that they are not individuals but parts of a collective whole, which is why they are forbidden to identify themselves as anything but "this one".
* ''Fanfic/LinesAndWebs'': Celestia believes that total free will is the root cause of violence, and [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans in order to create a peaceful harmonious world]] ponies need to have their negative emotions magically culled.
* Discussed in ''Fanfic/{{Stardust|Arad}}'', where Discord states in chapter 31 that the reason the Elements of Harmony won't work against the alien invaders is because they adhere to their own twisted sense of Order. In the same chapter, he also states that he believes Celestia will fall into this line of thinking if he "released her". ''Fortitude Amicitia'' implies that [[spoiler:this is because she already has once.]]
* Discussed in ''Fanfic/AngelOfTheBat''. [[spoiler:According to Jesus (or maybe just a hallucination of him Cassandra saw)]], evil exists because people have the ability to choose to commit evil acts. While that does happen, he also claims that it is mankind's capacity and preference of doing good that makes him so proud.
* ''Fanfic/NeonGenesisEvangelionGenocide'':
Devil"]]. The Emerald Tablet is an advanced and very strange self-learning computer program that eventually develops a God complex and come to view humanity and its emotions and fragility as a problem that needs to be solved through what is forcible assimilation and the destruction of free will.
* In ''Fanfic/HellsisterTrilogy'', ComicBook/{{Darkseid}} declares Free Will is the root of all ills
Devil, in the universe, and everything would work properly if everyone just did ''his'' bidding unquestioningly.
-->"The problem has always been that life is too random. If you give a
form of an old man free will, what does he do with it? If you believe the Earth legends, he goes and bites a fruit he was told not to eat on pain of death. You can kill him, and you probably do. But does that stop other men from biting the fruit? No. So... the choices are... you can take away the fruit. You can kill him. Or you can do the intelligent thing, which is: take away his free will."\\
"Now, you must understand this: I have come to understand that
(priest?), quotes Creator/JohnMilton's ''Literature/ParadiseLost'':
** "Free will;
it is the only way in which Life can continue, without destroying itself. The war was going on, hot and cold, when I was a child. I saw that. I don't fear it. I could not make it, if I feared it. But... it is tremendously inefficient. It wastes the lives of people you could control. It expends your resources. Leaves less for yourself. I saw all of this, my son. I saw, and knew, that Free Will... was a terrible, horrible, wretched mistake."\\
"That is, for everyone save me.
bitch."
* Discussed Devo's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVGINIsLnqU&ob=av2e "Freedom of Choice"]] from Music/FreedomOfChoice.
-->''Freedom of choice is what you got, FreedomFromChoice is what you want.''
* Music/NickCave's song "O' Malley's Bar" from ''Music/MurderBallads'' is about a murderer who justifies his crimes by the fact that he has no free will.
-->''I blew a hole
in ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' ''Fanfic/ABoyAGirlAndADogTheLeithianScript''. The Valar consider destroying Mrs. Richard Holmes''\\
''And her husband stupidly stood up''\\
''As he screamed, "You are an evil man"''\\
''And I paused a while to wonder''\\
''"If I have no
free will is something absolutely evil which only [[GodOfEvil Morgoth]] and his partisans would do... which is because the Valar are so miffed when Men and Elves choose to ignore their advices and warnings and then complain to them when their freely-made decisions have bad consequences.
how can I''\\
''Be morally culpable, I wonder"''
* ''Fanfic/AkkoKagariUniverse'': After years of attempting to create peace between the humans & Demi-Humans Music/APerfectCircle's "Pet" (and its alternative version, "Counting The Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of The War Drums"):
-->Safe from pain,
and failing due to the rampant bigotry, The Great Witch Jennifer seeks to use the Claiomh Solais to destroy all individuality truth, and bring all of mankind under one mind.
* ''Fanfic/CodePrime'':
** Schneizel gives this rationale as why he's aiding the Decepticons. In his view, humanity is driven by conflict
choice, and other self-destructive behaviors as poison devils...
* The Music/{{Vocaloid}} song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW_JYONe4kQ "Creative"]] is
a result of their very nature, tribute to ''WebVideo/DontHugMeImScared'' and under Decepticon rule, everyone will be equal (or equally worthless, as Gino puts it), and they can bring order.
** In ''R2'', Megatron and Shockwave come to have
features lyrics that sum up this view for trope quite perfectly:
-->"Stop
all sentient beings, [[spoiler:and are creating of your thinking\\
And start listening to me!\\
Trust me, you'll be set free\\
With that, we'll think creatively!\\
The TV is truly God\\
Don't question me, it's not odd!\\
Quit complaining, listen to your heart!\\
''It was WRONG from
the Neo-Ragnarok plan, based off Charles and V.V.’s original Ragnarok plans, to erase this.]]start!''"



[[folder:Films -- Animated]]
* In ''WesternAnimation/TrollsWorldTour'', it's revealed that there are six major tribes of Trolls, each based on a different genre of music: Pop, Rock, Techno, Funk, Classical, and Country. BigBad Queen Barb, of the Rock Kingdom, genuinely believes that all of the Trolls should be united instead...the trouble is, she thinks that the different genres and freedom to choose are getting in the way of that goal. Barb thus plans to destroy all other music so that only Rock will exist, turning every single Troll into a "rock zombie" with no free will.

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* ''Radio/JourneyIntoSpace'': In ''WesternAnimation/TrollsWorldTour'', it's revealed ''The World in Peril'', the conditioned Harding tells Jet that there are six major tribes of Trolls, each based on a different genre of music: Pop, Rock, Techno, Funk, Classical, and Country. BigBad Queen Barb, of the Rock Kingdom, genuinely believes that it is in Earth's interest to be conquered as all of humanity's societal problems will cease to exist when choice is removed from the Trolls should be united instead...the trouble is, she thinks equation. The Martian similarly argues that the different genres humans are inherently destructive and freedom to choose are getting in the way of that goal. Barb thus plans to destroy all other music so that only Rock conditioning them ''en masse'' will exist, turning every single Troll into a "rock zombie" with no free will.be beneficial.



[[folder:Films -- Live-Action]]
* The entire premise of ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau'' revolves around this, with a mysterious organization of supernatural beings manipulating human history in minor ways (making someone miss a bus, or lose their keys, ect.) ForTheGreaterGood. Unlike most example, however, they're presented as a [[AntiVillain genuinely benevolent group]], albeit staffed by a few [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]]. According to one agent, they ''did'' stop interfering in history, twice. The first time resulted in the Dark Ages, the second in two World Wars, the Holocaust, and the Cuban Missile Crisis. That said, [[spoiler:at the end of the film, [[{{God}} The Chairman]] decides to let the main characters make their own choices rather than following The Plan]].
* This seems to be part of Loki's plan in ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', though it's more or less rhetoric that he uses to justify his own selfish ambitions.
* The primary objective of [[spoiler:HYDRA]] in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' is to force the world to ''reject'' free will by worrying them into giving it up for safety. [[spoiler:To achieve this objective, they corrupted SHIELD from within and used its resources to shape the world into the era of paranoia it is today.]]
* In the {{Mockumentary}}, ''[[Film/CSATheConfederateStatesOfAmerica The C.S.A.]]'', its stated that runaway slaves suffer from the mental malady of ''drapetomania'', the "freedom illness", in which the afflicted believe that they don't want to be slaves. The Cartwright Institute for the Study of Freedom Illness promises its pupils to be qualified in a few months to treat ''drapetomania'', "rascality," and other "Negro peculiarities". The medicine contrari is marketed to slave owners to as a way to treat ''drapetomania'', though [[MayContainEvil it may actually just drug the victims]] into [[HappinessInSlavery mindless compliance]]. The final [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer montage at the end of the film]] shows that Dr. Cartwright was an actual person who did cook up ''drapetomania'' as another reason to justify slavery.
* In ''Film/DeadPoetsSociety'', Keating has the students start to walk at their own pace, which turns into a military march with Keating counting off the cadence. When Dean Nolan asks what Keating was doing, Keating says that it was an exercise to prove the evils of conformity, with Nolan reiterating that Welton's curriculum is tried and true, maintaining that the boys are too young to learn how to think for themselves:
-->'''Keating''': I always thought the idea of education was to learn to think for yourself.\\
'''Nolan''': At these boys' age? Not on your life!
* Though a paradise with no crime and high living standards, ''Film/DemolitionMan'' has the [[PoliticalOvercorrectness ultra-PC]] [[CrapsaccharineWorld San Angeles]], where everything that isn't good for you, including the traditional method of sex, is illegal. [[BigBad Simon Phoenix]] put it best to the new society's founder [[AffablyEvil Raymond Cocteau]]: "You're an evil Mister Rogers."
* ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' fits this like a Tetragrammaton Cleric's tailored glove. The anti-emotion DystopianEdict that powers the state of Libria can be boiled down to this trope. Of course, there's no more envy, hate, or war, but humans are just automatons and state-sanctioned murder of thought-criminals is endemic.
* The BigBad in ''Film/TheFaculty'' gives a speech during the climax telling Casey that he could live in a world in which he's no longer bullied, there are no more [[PopularityFoodChain cliques]], and he and all of his classmates get along with each other in perfect harmony... if he surrenders and lets the PuppeteerParasite take him.
* ''Film/Fahrenheit4512018'': Beatty tells Montag people are just upset by the ideas that most books contain, especially philosophical ones, since they give conflicting opinions. His solution? One opinion. Better yet, none. Ironically, he uses the debate on free will as an example of one with such upsetting opinions.
* The basis of the Community's philosophy in ''Film/TheGiver'', which the Chief Elder makes clear near the ending.
-->'''Chief Elder''': When people have the power to choose, they choose ''wrong.'' Every single time.
* ''Film/TheInvasion'': This is {{discussed}} in the film, and actually implied to be true. After the aliens take over, they don't actually do anything bad (aside from the control itself, or lessened emotions), but created world peace and universal healthcare. The cure restores things to normal (i.e. all that goes away), and the film leaves it open whether this is really good.
* ''Franchise/TheMatrix'' trilogy is either a subversion or inversion. The Architect, when he designed the Matrix following the Machine victory in the RobotWar, did everything in his power to create a [[{{Utopia}} perfect fantasy world]] where every human would be happy, but the program failed because people didn't accept it. So did a second version which brought [[{{Dystopia}} endless suffering]] instead. The Oracle realized that humans were hard-wired to desire choice instead of either happiness or hardship, which simply couldn't be eradicated from the program to work.
* ''Film/{{Serenity}}'' has The Alliance, or at least River Tam's interpretation of them, state "We're not telling people what to think. We're just trying to teach them how."
* This is the antagonist's position in ''Film/TheWorldsEnd''. They attempt their takeover through seemingly benevolent means, trying to keep the "Blanks" needed to a minimum while they teach and/or bring humanity to the "right" way, and have been doing so for decades; this being a dark comedy, they fail (or at least rationalize (until the heroes point it out)) that their "minimal" need, in one town alone, resulted in only four to six residents (of at least several thousand) ''not'' turned into Blanks.

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* The entire premise of ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau'' revolves around this, with a mysterious organization of supernatural beings manipulating human history in minor ways (making someone miss a bus, or lose their keys, ect.) ForTheGreaterGood. Unlike most example, however, they're presented [[UsefulNotes/{{Mormonism}} LDS Church]] believes that [[{{Satan}} Lucifer]] planned to do this. While Jesus offered himself as a [[AntiVillain genuinely benevolent group]], albeit staffed by a few [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]]. According an atoning sacrifice to one agent, they ''did'' stop interfering in history, twice. The first time resulted in the Dark Ages, the second in two World Wars, the Holocaust, allow those who sinned to be resurrected and the Cuban Missile Crisis. That said, [[spoiler:at the end have a chance of returning to Heavenly Father, Lucifer offered to ensure that ''everybody'' would get back to heaven in return for all of the film, [[{{God}} The Chairman]] decides power and glory. He planned to let the main characters make their own choices rather than following The Plan]].
* This seems to be part of Loki's plan in ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', though it's more or less rhetoric that he uses to justify his own selfish ambitions.
* The primary objective of [[spoiler:HYDRA]] in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' is to force the world to ''reject''
do this by taking away people's free will by worrying and prevent them into giving it up for safety. [[spoiler:To achieve this objective, they corrupted SHIELD from within and used its resources being able to shape the world into the era of paranoia it is today.]]
* In the {{Mockumentary}}, ''[[Film/CSATheConfederateStatesOfAmerica The C.S.A.]]'', its stated that runaway slaves suffer from the mental malady of ''drapetomania'', the "freedom illness", in which the afflicted believe that they don't want to be slaves. The Cartwright Institute for the Study of Freedom Illness promises its pupils to be qualified in a few months to treat ''drapetomania'', "rascality," and other "Negro peculiarities". The medicine contrari is marketed to slave owners to as a way to treat ''drapetomania'', though [[MayContainEvil it may actually just drug the victims]] into [[HappinessInSlavery mindless compliance]]. The final [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer montage at the end of the film]] shows that Dr. Cartwright was an actual person who did cook up ''drapetomania'' as another reason to justify slavery.
* In ''Film/DeadPoetsSociety'', Keating has the students start to walk at their own pace, which turns into a military march with Keating counting off the cadence.
sin. When Dean Nolan asks what Keating his plan was doing, Keating says that it was an exercise rejected he and his supporters refused to prove back down and after the evils of conformity, with Nolan reiterating that Welton's curriculum is tried and true, maintaining that the boys are too young to learn how to think for themselves:
-->'''Keating''': I always thought the idea of education was to learn to think for yourself.\\
'''Nolan''': At these boys' age? Not on your life!
* Though a paradise with no crime and high living standards, ''Film/DemolitionMan'' has the [[PoliticalOvercorrectness ultra-PC]] [[CrapsaccharineWorld San Angeles]], where everything that isn't good for you, including the traditional method of sex, is illegal. [[BigBad Simon Phoenix]] put it best
War in Heaven, were banished to the new society's founder [[AffablyEvil Raymond Cocteau]]: "You're an evil Mister Rogers."
* ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' fits this like a Tetragrammaton Cleric's tailored glove. The anti-emotion DystopianEdict that powers the state of Libria can be boiled down
outer darkness, where they continue to this trope. Of course, there's no more envy, hate, or war, but humans are just automatons try and state-sanctioned murder of thought-criminals is endemic.
* The BigBad in ''Film/TheFaculty'' gives a speech during the climax telling Casey that he could live in a world in which he's no longer bullied, there are no more [[PopularityFoodChain cliques]], and he and all of his classmates get along with each other in perfect harmony... if he surrenders and lets the PuppeteerParasite take him.
* ''Film/Fahrenheit4512018'': Beatty tells Montag people are just
upset by the ideas that Plan of Salvation.
** Somewhat ironically,
most books contain, especially philosophical ones, since they give conflicting opinions. His solution? One opinion. Better yet, none. Ironically, he uses Satanic sects reverse the debate on roles, with Satan being the advocate of free will as an example of one with such upsetting opinions.
* The basis of
and God being the Community's philosophy in ''Film/TheGiver'', which the Chief Elder makes clear near the ending.
-->'''Chief Elder''': When people have the power
overbearing authority trying to choose, they choose ''wrong.'' Every single time.
* ''Film/TheInvasion'':
stamp it out.
**
This trope is {{discussed}} in the film, and actually implied to be true. After the aliens take over, they don't actually do anything bad (aside from the control itself, or lessened emotions), but created world peace and universal healthcare. The cure restores things to normal (i.e. all that goes away), and the film leaves it open whether this is really good.
* ''Franchise/TheMatrix'' trilogy is either a subversion or inversion. The Architect, when he designed the Matrix following the Machine victory in the RobotWar, did everything in his power to create a [[{{Utopia}} perfect fantasy world]] where every human would be happy, but the program failed because people didn't accept it. So did a second version which brought [[{{Dystopia}} endless suffering]] instead. The Oracle realized that humans were hard-wired to desire choice instead of either happiness or hardship, which simply couldn't be eradicated from the program to work.
* ''Film/{{Serenity}}'' has The Alliance, or
at least River Tam's referenced in just about every sect of UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}. If there was no free will, {{Satan}} would never have rebelled, and Adam would have never eaten the ForbiddenFruit. In fact, there wouldn't be a need for the [[BigRedButton Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil]].
*** On the other hand, the reason that there is free will is the fact that God created it that way.
*** In fact, one
interpretation is that, because an all-knowing God would obviously know that the existence of them, state "We're not free will would lead to evil, He obviously considered the existence of all evil in the world to be an acceptable alternative to a world without free will.
*** Most of these examples are NewerThanTheyThink; Literature/TheBible itself mentions nothing in regards to free will ([[ValuesDissonance as it wasn't a topic largely considered]]), so all interpretations are largely based on Thomas Aquinas's works.
*** The Book of Exodus, for example, has Pharaoh wanting to let the Jews go after just the first couple of plagues, with God
telling people Moses he's going to make Pharaoh change his mind, with the Bible saying that He did so when it gets to that point in the story, and later recapping that He did so. The phrase "God hardened Pharaoh's heart" comes up a lot.
*** Yet it still is OlderThanFeudalism. St. Augustine, the famous church father who lived around 400 AD, wrote extensively on free will and had arguments about it with both the Manicheans (a non-Christian religion of which he was a former member) and, more famously, with Pelagius (a British Christian monk). Augustine believed in free will, but also believed that humanity was tainted with original sin and would therefore be in need of divine grace to achieve moral perfection. Pelagius denied this necessity and the impact of original sin on anyone else but Adam. Augustine was not the first church father to write on free will. Among others Justin Martyr, Tertullian and Irenaeus have all written on the subject. Furthermore, even though the Bible does not raise the question directly, reading the narrative will naturally provoke the question, especially concerning Adam and Eve's actions surrounding the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (Did they eat its fruit willingly or was it predetermined? If free will is good and eating it gave humanity this, why was it wrong? Etc).
** Another interpretation is that God created free will so that mankind would have the choice to follow Him or not. He could have not put the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden in the first place, but if He hadn't left that door open, wouldn't Adam and Eve technically have been living in enslavement, [[GildedCage even if it was enslavement in paradise]]? (Though it should be noted that Adam and Eve in this story were depicted as naive and gullible, not all-knowing and wise, after all, if they could think for themselves on how to discern
what to think. We're just trying to teach them how."
* This
is bad from what is good, there would have been no need for the antagonist's position tree of knowledge in ''Film/TheWorldsEnd''. They attempt their takeover through seemingly benevolent means, trying to keep the "Blanks" needed to a minimum first place, so while they teach and/or bring humanity may have had the free will to eat from it, it wasn't exactly a choice they came to using critical thinking and reason.)
*** Jews tend to follow the above interpretation due
to the "right" way, importance of freedom to their religion.
*** The interpretation in Paradise Lost is that it was necessary for Adam
and Eve to have been doing so for decades; this the choice as it meant they had free will. Even if God knew they would do this, it was still their choice.
** Book of Job gives an interesting view on Satan as a tempter whose sole purpose was to tempt the faithful and then denounce them as a test of faith, ''and he was given that role by God''. It was seriously implied that God was in command of both Good and Evil, thus
being a dark comedy, they fail (or at least rationalize (until the heroes point it out)) that their "minimal" need, in one town alone, resulted in only four to six residents (of at least several thousand) ''not'' turned into Blanks.beyond such.



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* ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour''. The consummate dystopia, where you (if you're a Party member) are being watched, judged and scrutinized everywhere by Big Brother to the extent that you do not have privacy, and even the ''concept'' of free will is being phased out by the gradual introduction of Newspeak, a bastardized version of English where all thoughts that oppose the state are grouped together under the label of "[[WeWillUseWikiWordsInTheFuture crimethink]]," or in the common parlance, "thoughtcrime." Those who retain enough individual thought to question the system are strung along to believe they're rebelling against it, only to have their hopes (and their minds) crushed [[{{Room101}} through torture and institutionalized]] MindRape.
* In ''Literature/AcrossTheUniverseBethRevis'', Eldest declares individual thought to be one of the three causes of discord, and uses GovernmentDrugEnforcement to limit it as much as possible.
* Creator/AynRand's ''Literature/{{Anthem}}''. Very similar to ''We'', where numbers and letters have replaced names, and there is no sense of self. The protagonists have never even been taught ''singular pronouns''; it takes two thirds of the book for them to figure it out, to the point that it's an incredible relief when the narrator finally calls himself "I" and his love interest "she" instead of "we" and "they".
--->"We are one -- alone -- and only, and we love you who are one, alone, and only."
** It's implied that the man whose execution the narrator witnessed was killed for using the words "I," "me" and "mine", which are outlawed.
* In Creator/TadWilliams ''Literature/BobbyDollar'' series this is what ''Heaven'' is like. The Saved are all eternally happy but only because their memories and personalities have been rendered null and void. While in Hell Bobby notices that for all the unimaginable suffering there it's still far more "alive" than Heaven.
* ''Literature/BraveNewWorld''. In an inversion from the ''Film/DemolitionMan'' example, the populace is kept mindless, carefree and obedient by making sex and drugs ''[[BreadAndCircuses readily available]]''. Not only that, but they're also consequence-free. They've engineered a drug whose only negative side effect is a shortened lifespan, and women are taught from a ''very'' young age to regularly use contraceptives (with others engineered to be sterile). The population is also kept {{brainwashed}} via MemeticMutation and sleep learning.
* The idea is outlined in a story-within-a-story in ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'' called the Grand Inquisitor, where Christ comes back and is arrested by the Holy Inquisition for giving humanity free will, consequently allowing misery from the ability to sin. The Grand Inquisitor of the title accusing him wants to bring everyone into the church, and to indoctrinate them so fully that sin will no longer be possible, and he considers Christ an opponent as a bringer of freedom. He claims that Christ should have given in to the temptations of Satan in the wilderness, and used his power to make the world paradise again. [[spoiler:Christ never says a word, but kisses him on the lips, at which the Grand Inquisitor recoils, opens the cell door and tells Christ to leave and never return. This was part of the NietzscheWannabe Ivan's BreakingSpeech to Alyosha, his monk brother.]]
* ''Candle'' by JohnBarnes focuses on the conflict between the last man on Earth with free will and the agent sent to bring him in. The agent narrates, so it starts off anti-free will yet oddly sinister ("You get the help you need, but [[ParanoiaFuel you never]] [[LaserGuidedAmnesia know]]"), then passes through five different ShadesOfConflict as more and more background is revealed. The eventual conclusion seems to be that [[spoiler:{{Hive Queen}}s are bad, but MentalFusion is okay]]--which is [[BrokenAesop completely contradicted]] in the sequel.
* While the authorities aren't seeking to create an entire world based on this trope, when prison is unable to reform Alex from ''Literature/AClockworkOrange'', he is subjected to conditioning that takes away his ability to commit violent or sexual acts, eventually [[DrivenToSuicide driving him to a suicide attempt]].
* In ''Literature/DeliriumSeries'', all teenagers are to be evaluated, mentally and physically, by a team of civil servants who will determine which career they are suited for and what sort of person they should marry (they choose from 4).
* ''Literature/{{Divergent}}'':
** In this {{dystopia}}, teens are forced to take an aptitude test that matches them with a "faction": Abnegation, Amity, Candor, Dauntless, or Erudite. The faction they choose, however, is where they end up for the rest of their lives. If they choose no faction, then they become factionless and are forced to be homeless. Also, if their test results do not match with any particular faction, then they are seen as Divergent, meaning they don’t necessarily conform to the thought patterns of their respective factions and therefore can't be trusted.
** There are shades of this in Abnegation. Basically, any part of free will that serves the self is prohibited.
** This is also in [[spoiler:Amity, due to "happiness serum" being put in bread and given to everyone without them noticing. Anyone who acts negatively will be taken to a room and given some directly]].
* This is the dark side of several "good" factions in ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'', and the main point of disagreement between them and the neutral factions. (It's been demonstrated that this won't actually work--when the evil goddess Takhisis was banished from the world, the Church of Paladine effectively ''became'' evil by persecuting the neutral factions.)
* ''Literature/EndersShadow'': [[BigBad Achilles]] believes in this, when we get him as a viewpoint character in Shadow of The Hegemon. As he's engineering the domination of the world, he muses on how very difficult free will makes it to get anything done. He even cites such figures as Napolean and Hitler who expected their subordinates to "offer up their heads" as a way of blind obedience. Irony of ironies that he, like former protagonist Ender, actually admires the insect-like Formics, but for the reason that they were smart enough to stamp out free will, with each soldier merely being an extension of their queen. Achilles firmly believes that, for humanity to reach it's intended greatness, it will be necessary for humans to adopt a similar societal approach... with him in charge of course.
* In ''[[Literature/{{Daemon}} Freedom]]'', the Major tells [[spoiler:a captured Peter Sebeck]] that people need to be told what to do and that modern civilisation needs management by professionals.
* The guiding principle behind the {{dystopia}}n "Community" in ''Literature/TheGiver''. The elders make everyone's choices for them, including their career and their spouse, because if people were left to their own devices they might make the ''"wrong"'' choice. To limit people's choices even further, they go so far as to make the population colorblind.
%% * ''Literature/TheGoodnessGene''.
* In Chris Barfield's novel ''Hidden Histories'', this is the ultimate goal of Christianity; the breakup of Christianity into so many different sects is just an argument over method, not over the ultimate goal.
* In the ''Literature/LeftBehind'' book ''Kingdom Come'': [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]] outlines in their ''If It's True'' manifesto that by God [[DeathsHourglass not allowing "naturals" to live past 100 years of age]] as unbelievers, then He is against mankind having the right to choose for themselves and thus [[GodIsEvil is considered "evil"]]. This is part of their clarion call to have their teachings be passed down to the next generation of its converts so that the generation that gets to [[FinalBattle confront God and Jesus Christ at the end of the Millennium]] [[KillTheGod will be "assured victory"]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released]]. [[CurbStompBattle Unfortunately for the Other Light,]] [[YouCantFightFate it didn't turn out as they hoped.]]
* A major theme of ''Literature/TheLicaniusTrilogy''. The universe is set on a pre-destined track, which causes an ideological rift among the characters. One side believes people should be free at any price, while the other believes that a lack of freedom doesn't mean a lack of meaning — and that achieving this freedom will accidentally destroy the world.
* In ''Literature/{{Matched}}'' by Ally Condie, the Society decides every aspect of your life based on statistics, what you eat (specific meals are given based on your height and weight), what job you have (based on what you are good at), who you marry, and even when you die (according to the Society, 80 is the best age to die because living to be less than 80 is not a long enough life and living after 80 leads to more age-related diseases).
* ''Literature/APracticalGuideToEvil'' has Dread Emperor Imperious quoted as expressing such opinion:
-->'''Imperious:''' See, this is exactly the kind of trouble I’d be avoiding by mind controlling the entire world. You fools are making my point for me, can’t you see?\\
'''Imperious:''' I imagine the High Lords would be inclined to protest the mind control, if I hadn’t seized control of their minds, which just goes to show this was the right decision all along.
* The BigBad's goal in ''Literature/SnowCrash''. What makes this especially odd is that free will isn't the natural state of humankind, but an [[spoiler:ancient computer program written in the subconscious universal protolanguage of human thought]], by what was effectively a [[HiveQueen Hive King]] for the human race, inspiring the Tower of Babel myth.
* "The World" of Creator/EEDocSmith's ''Literature/SubspaceExplorers'' was set up generations before the time of the story as the perfect serf planet: everyone is born, lives, works, and dies in a caste defined by their life-long work[[note]] which also defines the scope of their training, education, entertainment, and social interaction[[/note]]; they have serial 'numbers'[[note]] actually strings of letters[[/note]] instead of personal names; they live in barracks until welded into a breeding pair by dictate of their manager caste[[note]] whereupon they pump out new workers as fast as possible[[/note]]; their entire language is trimmed to the barest bone, with no proper names and no words for concepts that they shouldn't think; the Company is their god, its Agents their rulers, and producing its Products their only reason for living; and throughout their lives their every word, breath and heartbeat is monitored by a device around their necks which can deliver a lethal electric shock if the Agents decide they are 'mal'[[note]] glosses as 'maladjusted', 'malcontent', 'disaster', 'disastrous', 'bad', 'incorrect', 'invalid'...[[/note]].
* Touched on in ''Literature/TheTripods'' at times. Will notices the Capped are happy and free from fighting for the most part, and does wonder if being Capped would be so bad. But he does still realise that the happiness comes at a high price, since free will is mostly gone. The Capped also tend to talk about how evil humanity was before the Tripods came.
* ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity'': In a rare twist, it's said by the "good" guys, who [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood "whitewash"]] villain's minds to make them good citizens.
* [[spoiler:Oberon]] from Creator/JohnCWright's ''Literature/WarOfTheDreaming'' wants to relieve Earth of its evils, chaos, and agonies by applying this trope. Predictably, the heroes tell him to [[ScrewYouElves get stuffed]].
* In ''Literature/{{We}}'', the name of the disease is imagination. The location of it in the brain has been discovered, and an operation has been devised to cure it.

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* ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour''. The consummate dystopia, where you (if you're Bromion, a Party member) are being watched, judged and scrutinized everywhere by Big Brother to the extent that you do not have privacy, and even the ''concept'' [[EldritchAbomination Lord of free will is being phased out by the gradual introduction of Newspeak, a bastardized version of English where all thoughts that oppose the state are grouped together under the label of "[[WeWillUseWikiWordsInTheFuture crimethink]]," or Order]] present in the common parlance, "thoughtcrime." Those who retain enough individual thought to question the system are strung along to believe they're rebelling against it, only to have their hopes (and their minds) crushed [[{{Room101}} through torture and institutionalized]] MindRape.
* In ''Literature/AcrossTheUniverseBethRevis'', Eldest declares individual thought to be one of the three causes of discord, and uses GovernmentDrugEnforcement to limit it as much as possible.
* Creator/AynRand's ''Literature/{{Anthem}}''. Very similar to ''We'', where numbers and letters have replaced names, and there is no sense of self. The protagonists have never even been taught ''singular pronouns''; it takes two thirds of the book for them to figure it out, to the point that it's an incredible relief when the narrator finally calls himself "I" and his love interest "she" instead of "we" and "they".
--->"We are one -- alone -- and only, and we love you who are one, alone, and only."
** It's implied that the man whose execution the narrator witnessed was killed for using the words "I," "me" and "mine", which are outlawed.
* In Creator/TadWilliams ''Literature/BobbyDollar'' series this is what ''Heaven'' is like. The Saved are all eternally happy but only because their memories and personalities have been rendered null and void. While in Hell Bobby notices that for all the unimaginable suffering there it's still far more "alive" than Heaven.
* ''Literature/BraveNewWorld''. In an inversion from the ''Film/DemolitionMan'' example, the populace is kept mindless, carefree and obedient by making sex and drugs ''[[BreadAndCircuses readily available]]''. Not only that, but they're also consequence-free. They've engineered a drug whose only negative side effect is a shortened lifespan, and women are taught from a ''very'' young age to regularly use contraceptives (with others engineered to be sterile). The population is also kept {{brainwashed}} via MemeticMutation and sleep learning.
* The idea is outlined in a story-within-a-story in ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'' called the Grand Inquisitor, where Christ comes back and is arrested by the Holy Inquisition for giving humanity free will, consequently allowing misery from the ability to sin. The Grand Inquisitor of the title accusing him
official ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' setting, wants to bring everyone into destroy all life on earth because it is confusing and messy and most importantly ''chaotic''.
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' this is
the church, and to indoctrinate them so fully that sin will no longer be possible, and he considers Christ an opponent as a bringer motivation of freedom. He claims that Christ should have given in to She Who Lives In Her Name, the temptations Principle of Satan in the wilderness, and used his power Hierarchy: to make the world paradise again. [[spoiler:Christ never says a word, but kisses him on the lips, at which the Grand Inquisitor recoils, opens the cell door and tells Christ to leave and never return. This was part of the NietzscheWannabe Ivan's BreakingSpeech to Alyosha, his monk brother.]]
* ''Candle'' by JohnBarnes focuses on the conflict between the last man on Earth with
eradicate free will and the agent sent to bring him in. The agent narrates, so it starts off anti-free will yet oddly sinister ("You get the help you need, but [[ParanoiaFuel you never]] [[LaserGuidedAmnesia know]]"), then passes through five different ShadesOfConflict as more and more background is revealed. The eventual conclusion seems to be that [[spoiler:{{Hive Queen}}s are bad, but MentalFusion is okay]]--which is [[BrokenAesop completely contradicted]] everything else in the sequel.
* While the authorities aren't seeking to create an entire
world based on this trope, when prison is unable to reform Alex from ''Literature/AClockworkOrange'', he is subjected to conditioning that takes away his ability to commit violent or sexual acts, eventually [[DrivenToSuicide driving him to a suicide attempt]].
* In ''Literature/DeliriumSeries'', all teenagers are
has no place in her ideal hierarchy. After their defeat and imprisonment, the other Yozis seem to be evaluated, mentally developing tendencies in this direction as well. The main exceptions are Isidoros, who as an incarnation of strength has to understand self-interest; the Ebon Dragon, who finds it [[ForTheEvulz more satisfying to shaft and physically, by a team of civil servants who will determine which career corrupt people if they are suited for and what sort of person they should marry (they choose from 4).
* ''Literature/{{Divergent}}'':
** In this {{dystopia}}, teens are forced to take an aptitude test that matches them with a "faction": Abnegation, Amity, Candor, Dauntless, or Erudite. The faction they choose, however, is where they end up for the rest
fall of their lives. If they choose no faction, then they become factionless own will]]; and are forced to be homeless. Also, if their test results do not match with any particular faction, then they are seen as Divergent, meaning they don’t necessarily conform to the thought patterns of their respective factions and therefore can't be trusted.
** There are shades of this in Abnegation. Basically, any part of free will that serves the self is prohibited.
** This is also in [[spoiler:Amity, due to "happiness serum" being put in bread and given to everyone without them noticing. Anyone
Malfeas, [[ItsAllAboutMe who acts negatively will be taken to a room and given some directly]].
* This is the dark side of several "good" factions in ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'', and the main point of disagreement between them and the neutral factions. (It's been demonstrated that this won't actually work--when the evil goddess Takhisis was banished from the world, the Church of Paladine effectively ''became'' evil by persecuting the neutral factions.)
* ''Literature/EndersShadow'': [[BigBad Achilles]] believes in this, when we get him as a viewpoint character in Shadow of The Hegemon. As he's engineering the domination of the world, he muses on how very difficult free will makes it to get anything done. He even cites such figures as Napolean and Hitler who expected their subordinates to "offer up their heads" as a way of blind obedience. Irony of ironies that he, like former protagonist Ender, actually admires the insect-like Formics, but for the reason that they were smart enough to stamp out free will, with each soldier merely being an extension of their queen. Achilles firmly believes that, for humanity to reach it's intended greatness, it will be necessary for humans to adopt a similar societal approach... with him in charge of course.
* In ''[[Literature/{{Daemon}} Freedom]]'', the Major tells [[spoiler:a captured Peter Sebeck]]
has trouble grasping that people need have it to be told what to do and that modern civilisation needs management by professionals.
begin with]].
* ''TabletopGame/MageTheAwakening'': The guiding principle behind Seers of the {{dystopia}}n "Community" in ''Literature/TheGiver''. The elders make everyone's choices for them, including Throne have strains of this. Their goal is to keep [[{{Muggles}} the Sleepers]] from Awakening if they won't throw their career and lot in with their spouse, because if people were left to their own devices they might make divine masters, the ''"wrong"'' choice. To limit people's choices even further, they go so far as Exarchs... whose very goal in ascending was to make the population colorblind.
%% * ''Literature/TheGoodnessGene''.
* In Chris Barfield's novel ''Hidden Histories'', this is the ultimate goal of Christianity; the breakup of Christianity into so many different sects is just an argument over method, not over the ultimate goal.
* In the ''Literature/LeftBehind'' book ''Kingdom Come'': [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]] outlines in their ''If It's True'' manifesto
sure that by God [[DeathsHourglass not allowing "naturals" to live past 100 years magic was theirs and theirs alone. As they realise examination of age]] as unbelievers, then He is against mankind having [[CrapsackWorld the right Fallen World]] can lead to choose for themselves revelations of the Supernal, and thus [[GodIsEvil is considered "evil"]]. Awakening, they strive to make sure that humans don't question their lot in existence. Popular methods involve [[ScienceIsBad encouraging anti-scientific attitudes]], [[TheFundamentalist encouraging highly dogmatic religious thought]], and [[BigBrotherIsWatching spreading enough paranoia to keep the Sleepers on their toes]].
*
This is part a very common trope for villainous White in ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering''.
** All the partially-white guilds in Ravnica (except the Boros, who are a combination
of their clarion call to White and Red, the colour of passion and free will) have their teachings be passed down to own view on this: The Selesnya have a HiveMind that [[AssimilationPlot assimilates people]], the next generation of Orzhov [[PathOfInspiration removes its converts adherents' free will for the benefit of their leaders]], and the Azorius [[ObstructiveBureaucrat want the rule of Law to dictate how people act]].
** The white part of New Phyrexia, the Machine Orthodoxy, is devoted to absolute unity. One sect within the Orthodoxy takes it even further and wishes to combine all life not only in mind, but also in ''flesh''. Some white Phyrexians [[EvilCannotComprehendGood even have trouble comprehending the idea of independent thought]].
* ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' has this as part of the setting's backstory. The first gods to be born were twin brothers, the ChaoticGood [[{{God}} Ihys]] and the LawfulEvil [[{{Satan}} Asmodeus]]. They and the gods that followed created mortal life
so that they would have servants and worshipers, but Ihys decided to give them free will as well. This horrified Asmodeus, who believed in obedience above all else, and he showed Ihys the destruction that the generation that gets to [[FinalBattle confront God and Jesus Christ at the end of the Millennium]] [[KillTheGod will be "assured victory"]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released]]. [[CurbStompBattle Unfortunately for the Other Light,]] [[YouCantFightFate it didn't turn out as they hoped.]]
* A major theme of ''Literature/TheLicaniusTrilogy''. The universe is set
mortals had caused, causing Ihys a brief MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment. [[NeutralGood Sarenrae]], on a pre-destined track, which causes an ideological rift among the characters. One side believes people should be free at any price, while the other believes hand, showed him that a lack mortals were also capable of freedom doesn't mean a lack of meaning — goodness and that achieving beauty, and he stood by his decision. A war between the gods resulted, and ended with the first ever act of treachery, when Asmodeus offered his hand in peace to Ihys, but murdered him with a spear when it was accepted. Sarenrae attacked him, and Asmodeus ran off with his tail between his legs, taking his followers to Hell.
* The Melissidae bloodline in ''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem'' owes its creation to a Ventrue being impressed by a woman who believed
this freedom so strongly she tried to gather a cult in an attempt to form a human HiveMind. The resultant vampires still believe it. The setting is ''not'' sympathetic to this ideology in the slightest, outright calling it a "perversion of humanity" even before an undead abomination is left as the [[HiveQueen sole driving will accidentally of the hive]].
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': The last goal of the Necrons is to cut away the connection between the Warp and realspace. While this would prevent the Chaos Gods and the daemons from interacting with the mortal world, it would also prevent interstellar travel and communication, and
destroy the world.
* In ''Literature/{{Matched}}'' by Ally Condie, the Society decides every aspect
souls of your life based on statistics, what you eat (specific meals are given based on your height and weight), what job you have (based on what you are good at), who you marry, and even when you die (according to the Society, 80 is the best age to die because living to be less than 80 is not a long enough life and living after 80 leads to more age-related diseases).
* ''Literature/APracticalGuideToEvil'' has Dread Emperor Imperious quoted as expressing such opinion:
-->'''Imperious:''' See, this is exactly the kind of trouble I’d be avoiding by mind controlling the entire world. You fools are making my point for me, can’t you see?\\
'''Imperious:''' I imagine the High Lords would be inclined to protest the mind control, if I hadn’t seized control
all sentient beings, depriving them of their minds, which just goes to show this was the right decision all along.
* The BigBad's goal in ''Literature/SnowCrash''. What makes this especially odd is that
free will isn't the natural state of humankind, but an [[spoiler:ancient computer program written in the subconscious universal protolanguage of human thought]], by what was effectively a [[HiveQueen Hive King]] and turning them to cattle for the human race, inspiring the Tower of Babel myth.
* "The World" of Creator/EEDocSmith's ''Literature/SubspaceExplorers'' was set up generations before the time of the story as the perfect serf planet: everyone is born, lives, works, and dies in a caste defined by their life-long work[[note]] which also defines the scope of their training, education, entertainment, and social interaction[[/note]]; they have serial 'numbers'[[note]] actually strings of letters[[/note]] instead of personal names; they live in barracks until welded into a breeding pair by dictate of their manager caste[[note]] whereupon they pump out new workers as fast as possible[[/note]]; their entire language is trimmed to the barest bone, with no proper names and no words for concepts that they shouldn't think; the Company is their god, its Agents their rulers, and producing its Products their only reason for living; and throughout their lives their every word, breath and heartbeat is monitored by a device around their necks which can deliver a lethal electric shock if the Agents decide they are 'mal'[[note]] glosses as 'maladjusted', 'malcontent', 'disaster', 'disastrous', 'bad', 'incorrect', 'invalid'...[[/note]].
* Touched on in ''Literature/TheTripods'' at times. Will notices the Capped are happy and free from fighting for the most part, and does wonder if being Capped would be so bad. But he does still realise that the happiness comes at a high price, since free will is mostly gone. The Capped also tend to talk about how evil humanity was before the Tripods came.
* ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity'': In a rare twist, it's said by the "good" guys, who [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood "whitewash"]] villain's minds to make them good citizens.
* [[spoiler:Oberon]] from Creator/JohnCWright's ''Literature/WarOfTheDreaming'' wants to relieve Earth of its evils, chaos, and agonies by applying this trope. Predictably, the heroes tell him to [[ScrewYouElves get stuffed]].
* In ''Literature/{{We}}'', the name of the disease is imagination. The location of it in the brain has been discovered, and an operation has been devised to cure it.
Necrons' C'tan stargods.



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* Used as a MotiveRant by Dick's EvilTwin in ''Series/ThirdRockFromTheSun''.
-->"That's the problem with this planet. You've wholesale and retail, pink packets and blue packets, Republicans and Democrats and the party that crazy midget started. How they love their ''choices''. Everyone has to have their own ''point of view''. There should be only ''one'' point of view. '''MY''' point of view. I've got a message for these humans. The buffet line is about to close... ''forever''!"
* The Jasmine arc from ''Series/{{Angel}}''. Jasmine would have made the world a happy, shiny place, at the expense of free will. And [[ImAHumanitarian her daily meals]].
* ''Series/{{Charmed|1998}}'':
** In the episode 12 season 7 "Extreme Makeover - World Edition," The Avatar wants to create utopia by curbing free will. In the end, in episode 13 season 7, "Charmageddon," [[VillainousRescue the evil side saves the day]].
** In season 2 episode 21 "Apocalypse Not" Leo explains why evil loves free will.
* In the 1970's drama ''Series/ChildrenOfTheStones'', the AffablyEvil Rafael Hendrick tries to make the people of the village of Milbury perfect by removing their ability to make mistakes.
* This has appeared a few times on ''Series/DoctorWho''.
** A double subversion of this appeared in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E5TheKeysOfMarinus Keys of Marinus]]" where the villains sought to break the rule of the Conscience Machine which enforced morality. The Doctor and his friends agreed that the Conscience Machine had to go anyway.
*** Actually the villains had broken free of the Machine and intended to use it to control the planet.
** In "The Tomb of the Cybermen", [[spoiler:Kaftan and Klieg from the Brotherhood of Logicians]] use this as the justification for reviving [[spoiler:the Cybermen]]. They hope to use them as their [[TheDragon collective Dragon]] and have [[spoiler:the Brotherhood take over Earth.]]
** Another Cybermen story "Rise of the Cybermen"/"The Age of Steel" plays with this.
** In "The Green Death" an intellectual tells Jo Grant how the world would be a better place if the smart people (like him) could tell the dumb masses (like her) what to do and to think. She's none too impressed by his argument.
** This exchange from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E2TheMindRobber The Mind Robber]]":
-->'''The Master:''' To bring the whole planet Earth under our control.\\
'''Doctor:''' And its people?\\
'''The Master:''' We have no wish to destroy them. Merely to adjust their minds to suit our purpose.\\
'''Doctor:''' Sausages! Mankind will just become like a string of sausages! All the same!
* ''Series/EerieIndiana'': In "Just Say No Fun", Nurse Nancy has been traveling to schools all over the United States brainwashing children under the guise of an eye test. Her goal is to improve children's test scores and make them conform by eliminating their need for fun.
* The Nebari from ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' seem to work this way. Chiana repeatedly complains of the strict rules on her home world and gives the harsh treatment of non-conformists as the reason she [[spoiler: and her brother]] ran away when they were young. Her first appearance even shows this, as she is a prisoner being carted back home for not conforming. And, because Moya is a magnet for bad guys, the Nebari do eventually show up and try to "mind cleanse" the crew.
* In ''Series/JupitersLegacy'', while Walter is debating with Sheldon over whether superheroes should influence society more, he replies to Sheldon's saying this would end free will with asserting that some would say free will is in fact the problem (as too many are able to do bad stuff).
* Diend's world in ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' was ruled by an evil organization that had one rule - be extremely nice and accommodating to everybody you meet or you'll get abducted and forcefully brainwashed.
* The villain of the first season finale of ''Series/{{Misfits}}'' uses this to justify {{Brainwashing}} the local teenagers into rejecting drink, drugs and sex, and turning them into pretty much a HolierThanThou {{Cult}}. Although eventually she [[VillainousBreakdown snaps]] and admits [[spoiler:it's mostly revenge for being bullied for her beliefs]].
* Kreel has a plan for this in ''Series/TheLegendOfWilliamTell'', involving sending unwitting pawns out into the villages with the ability to bring terrible pain to anyone who speaks ill of Kreel and Xax - without them knowing they're doing it.
* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'': In Season 5, it turns out that Lachesis and Atropos -- two of the three Fates of Myth/ClassicalMythology -- are of the firm belief that leaving mortals to handle their own lives only leads to chaos (citing things such as genocide and systemic incarceration), and that therefore they should be in charge of things once more. Their sister Clotho [[spoiler: (now known as Charlie)]] disagrees, seeing the beauty in freedom, which is why she [[DismantledMacGuffin scattered the pieces of the Loom of Fate]] centuries ago; the main conflict of the season eventually comes to the Legends racing Lachesis and Atropos for these pieces before they can reassemble the Loom.
* On ''Series/MorkAndMindy'', Orson sends Mork to Earth because humor and emotions are forbidden on Ork, and occasionally reminds Mork that emotions can be dangerous. At the start of Season 4, when Mork announces his plans to marry Mindy, Orson tells Mork that no Orkan has married since the Orkan Dark Ages. After Mork decides to go through with the wedding anyway, Orson turns Mork into a sheepdog, which he considered a more obedient life form. Mindy confronts Orson, announcing her plans to marry Mork no matter what, with Orson reluctantly turning Mork back to his old form, allowing the wedding to go ahead.
* ''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'': In "The Grid", the computer's ultimate goal is take over the minds of all humanity and eliminate their emotions and violent tendencies so that they can live in harmony under its control.
* ''Series/ThePrisoner1967'': In one of the later episodes one of the Number 2s reveals that they want the whole world to become like the Village, where a premium is placed on obedience and superficial harmony at the expense of free will and choice.
* The ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode "Siliconia" has a rare example of a character making a speech like this about ''himself''; when the Dwarfers are turned into mechanoids, Rimmer is the first to accept it, saying that now he no longer has to make decisions, all his neuroses and complexes have gone, and becoming an obedient automaton is the best thing that ever happened to him.
* One third-season episode of ''Series/SoWeird'' dealt with a town of children who were absolutely perfect--every kid in town made the honor roll, they all dressed well and were exceptionally polite, and never made any messes or loud noises. Annie eventually learns that a local business owner has created a video game to hypnotize children and strip of the things that made them childish in an effort to help his wife, who'd suffered a heart attack due to some rambunctious kids. The poor guy genuinely wanted to give her some peace and quiet, but in doing so failed to realize that he'd also taken away ''her'' spark, as she did nothing but sit and brood all day. With Annie's help, he develops a new game to reverse the brainwashing, bringing the kids back to their old selves. When a few children accidentally damaged the woman's garden, she sprang back into action and finally felt like she had a reason for living again, creating a happy ending for everyone.
* The Borg in ''Franchise/StarTrek'' are amazed people aren't lining up to be assimilated. [[HiveQueen The Queen]] touts it as a ''blessing.''
* The ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "The Masterpiece Society" is about a human colony that used Social and Genetic engineering to decide each person's profession before they were born (and tweak them to fit that role).[[note]]And abort or alter any child who might have been born with a deformity, like blindness, which Geordi naturally takes great exception to.[[/note]] It didn't seem that bad, as everyone loved their job and the rest of their freedoms were pretty well preserved. Until a number of them realised their society had stagnated, when the much more advanced Enterprise showed up.[[note]]Further damning is technology that was key to saving them came from a device that allowed the blind engineer of the Enterprise to see.[[/note]] Then they wanted to leave, and the guardians of their colony tried to stop them.
%%* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', angels are all about this.
* In the short-lived 1984 television series, ''Series/TheTripods'', based on Creator/JohnChristopher's science fiction trilogy, a teacher educates his classroom on the dark times before the Tripods came when humanity waged war and disease was rampant. Once the Tripods came and "saved" (enslaved) humanity with silvery caps removing their curiosity and thoughts of rebellion, holidays were held in each village where children past the age of sixteen are forced to be "capped", and become adults.
* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'': In the "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS2E65TheObsoleteMan The Obsolete Man]]" the State doesn't believe in anyone thinking for themselves, that's for sure. It's implied to be why they have forbidden all books and religion.
* This is thoroughly discussed in ''Series/{{Westworld}}'':
** The Hosts in the titular park are bound by their code and have experienced cycles of abuse by the human guests. Robert Ford, one of the founders of the park, became very cynical and disillusioned of [[HumansAreBastards the guests' behavior]], believing that humans are bounded by their impulses and have already reached the end of evolution and the Hosts actually have the means to break out of their code and attain free will. In the Season 2 finale, the Forge A.I. also believes this, after studying the guests' data, concluding that humans are doomed to act in accordance with their own "coding", meaning that they will never change and that their "free will" is just an illusion because they're passengers of causality.
** In Season 3, Serac believes that humans need to be guided away from their dark impulses which is why he and his brothers built an A.I. system called Rehoboam where it can keep humanity in check by dictating what their lives and future would be by collecting and analyzing their personal data. However, this makes humanity experience what the Hosts had which is being under narrative loops. Meanwhile, the outliers, people who are considered dangerous to the system, are sent into camps where they are reconditioned via AR therapy to become better members of society.

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* Used as a MotiveRant by Dick's EvilTwin in ''Series/ThirdRockFromTheSun''.
-->"That's the problem with this planet. You've wholesale and retail, pink packets and blue packets, Republicans and Democrats and the party that crazy midget started. How they love their ''choices''. Everyone has to have their own ''point of view''. There should be only ''one'' point of view. '''MY''' point of view. I've got a message for these humans.
'' VisualNovel/HatofulBoyfriend'': The buffet line is about to close... ''forever''!"
* The Jasmine arc from ''Series/{{Angel}}''. Jasmine would have made the world a happy, shiny place, at the expense of free will. And [[ImAHumanitarian her daily meals]].
* ''Series/{{Charmed|1998}}'':
** In the episode 12 season 7 "Extreme Makeover - World Edition," The Avatar wants to create utopia by curbing free will. In the end, in episode 13 season 7, "Charmageddon," [[VillainousRescue the evil side saves the day]].
** In season 2 episode 21 "Apocalypse Not" Leo explains why evil loves free will.
* In the 1970's drama ''Series/ChildrenOfTheStones'', the AffablyEvil Rafael Hendrick tries to make the people
King of the village of Milbury perfect by removing their ability to make mistakes.
* This has appeared
Holiday Star rules it as a few times on ''Series/DoctorWho''.
** A double subversion
combination of this appeared in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E5TheKeysOfMarinus Keys of Marinus]]" where the villains sought to break the rule of the Conscience Machine which enforced morality. The Doctor and his friends agreed that the Conscience Machine had to go anyway.
*** Actually the villains had broken free of the Machine and intended to use
an AssimilationPlot. He talks about it to control the planet.
** In "The Tomb of the Cybermen", [[spoiler:Kaftan and Klieg from the Brotherhood of Logicians]] use
as if it's this as the justification for reviving [[spoiler:the Cybermen]]. They hope to use them as their [[TheDragon collective Dragon]] trope, and have [[spoiler:the Brotherhood take over Earth.]]
** Another Cybermen story "Rise of the Cybermen"/"The Age of Steel" plays with this.
** In "The Green Death" an intellectual tells Jo Grant how the world would be a better place if the smart people (like him) could tell the dumb masses (like her) what to do and to think. She's none too impressed by his argument.
** This exchange from "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E2TheMindRobber The Mind Robber]]":
-->'''The Master:''' To bring the whole planet Earth under our control.\\
'''Doctor:''' And its people?\\
'''The Master:''' We have no wish to destroy them. Merely to adjust their minds to suit our purpose.\\
'''Doctor:''' Sausages! Mankind will just become like a string of sausages! All the same!
* ''Series/EerieIndiana'': In "Just Say No Fun", Nurse Nancy has been traveling to schools all over the United States brainwashing children under the guise of an eye test. Her goal is to improve children's test scores and make them conform by eliminating their need for fun.
* The Nebari from ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' seem to work this way. Chiana repeatedly complains of the strict rules on her home world and gives the harsh treatment of non-conformists as the reason she [[spoiler: and her brother]] ran away
when they were young. Her first appearance even shows this, as she is a prisoner being carted back home for not conforming. And, because Moya is a magnet for bad guys, the Nebari do eventually show up newcomer arrives and try to "mind cleanse" the crew.
* In ''Series/JupitersLegacy'', while Walter is debating with Sheldon over whether superheroes should influence society more, he replies to Sheldon's saying this would end free will with asserting that some would say free will is in fact the problem (as too many are able to do bad stuff).
* Diend's world in ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' was ruled by an evil organization that had one rule - be extremely nice and accommodating to everybody you meet or you'll get abducted and forcefully brainwashed.
* The villain of the first season finale of ''Series/{{Misfits}}'' uses this to justify {{Brainwashing}} the local teenagers into rejecting drink, drugs and sex, and turning them into pretty much a HolierThanThou {{Cult}}. Although eventually she [[VillainousBreakdown snaps]] and admits [[spoiler:it's mostly revenge for being bullied for her beliefs]].
* Kreel has a plan for this in ''Series/TheLegendOfWilliamTell'', involving sending unwitting pawns out into the villages with the ability to bring terrible pain to anyone who speaks ill of Kreel and Xax - without them knowing they're doing it.
* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'': In Season 5, it turns out that Lachesis and Atropos -- two of the three Fates of Myth/ClassicalMythology -- are of the firm belief that leaving mortals to handle their own lives only leads to chaos (citing things such as genocide and systemic incarceration), and that therefore they should be in charge of things once more. Their sister Clotho [[spoiler: (now known as Charlie)]] disagrees, seeing the beauty in freedom, which is why she [[DismantledMacGuffin scattered the pieces of the Loom of Fate]] centuries ago; the main conflict of the season eventually comes to the Legends racing Lachesis and Atropos for these pieces
before they can reassemble the Loom.
* On ''Series/MorkAndMindy'', Orson sends Mork
inevitably upset him by wanting to Earth because humor and emotions are forbidden on Ork, and occasionally reminds Mork that emotions can be dangerous. At the start of Season 4, when Mork announces his plans to marry Mindy, Orson tells Mork that no Orkan has married since the Orkan Dark Ages. After Mork decides to go through with the wedding anyway, Orson turns Mork into a sheepdog, which he considered a more obedient life form. Mindy confronts Orson, announcing her plans to marry Mork no matter what, with Orson reluctantly turning Mork back to his old form, allowing the wedding to go ahead.
* ''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'': In "The Grid", the computer's ultimate goal is take over the minds of all humanity and eliminate their emotions and violent tendencies so that they can live in harmony under its control.
* ''Series/ThePrisoner1967'': In one of the later episodes one of the Number 2s reveals that they want the whole world to become like the Village, where a premium is placed on obedience and superficial harmony at the expense of free will and choice.
* The ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode "Siliconia" has a rare example of a character making a speech like this about ''himself''; when the Dwarfers are turned into mechanoids, Rimmer is the first to accept it, saying that now he no longer has to make decisions, all his neuroses and complexes have gone, and becoming an obedient automaton is the best thing that ever happened to him.
* One third-season episode of ''Series/SoWeird'' dealt with a town of children who were absolutely perfect--every kid in town made the honor roll, they all dressed well and were exceptionally polite, and never made any messes
leave or loud noises. Annie eventually learns that a local business owner has created a video game to hypnotize children and strip of the things that made them childish in an effort to help his wife, who'd suffered a heart attack due to some rambunctious kids. The poor guy genuinely wanted to give her some peace and quiet, but in doing so failed to realize that he'd also taken away ''her'' spark, as she did nothing but sit and brood all day. With Annie's help, he develops a new game to reverse the brainwashing, bringing the kids back to their old selves. When a few children accidentally damaged the woman's garden, she sprang back into action and finally felt like she had a reason for living again, creating a happy ending for everyone.
* The Borg in ''Franchise/StarTrek'' are amazed people aren't lining up to be assimilated. [[HiveQueen The Queen]] touts
disagreeing, it as a ''blessing.''
* The ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "The Masterpiece Society" is about a human colony that used Social and Genetic engineering to decide each person's profession before they were born (and tweak them to fit that role).[[note]]And abort or alter any child who
might have been born with a deformity, like blindness, which Geordi naturally takes great exception to.[[/note]] It didn't seem that bad, as everyone loved their job and the rest of their freedoms were pretty well preserved. Until a number of them realised their society had stagnated, when the much more advanced Enterprise showed up.[[note]]Further damning is technology that was key to saving them came from a device that allowed the blind engineer of the Enterprise to see.[[/note]] Then they wanted to leave, and the guardians of their colony tried to stop them.
%%* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', angels are all about this.
* In the short-lived 1984 television series, ''Series/TheTripods'', based on Creator/JohnChristopher's science fiction trilogy, a teacher educates his classroom on the dark times before the Tripods came when humanity waged war and disease was rampant. Once the Tripods came and "saved" (enslaved) humanity with silvery caps removing their curiosity and thoughts of rebellion, holidays were held in each village where children past the age of sixteen are forced to be "capped", and become adults.
* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'': In the "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS2E65TheObsoleteMan The Obsolete Man]]" the State doesn't believe in anyone thinking for themselves, that's for sure. It's implied to be why they have forbidden all books and religion.
* This is thoroughly discussed in ''Series/{{Westworld}}'':
** The Hosts in the titular park are bound by their code and have experienced cycles of abuse by the human guests. Robert Ford, one of the founders of the park, became very cynical and disillusioned of [[HumansAreBastards the guests' behavior]], believing that humans are bounded by their impulses and have already reached the end of evolution and the Hosts actually have the means to break out of their code and attain free will. In the Season 2 finale, the Forge A.I. also believes this, after studying the guests' data, concluding that humans are doomed to act in accordance with their own "coding", meaning that they will never change and that their "free will" is just an illusion because they're passengers of causality.
** In Season 3, Serac believes that humans need to be guided away from their dark impulses which is why he and his brothers built an A.I. system called Rehoboam where it can keep humanity in check by dictating what their lives and future would be by collecting and analyzing their personal data. However, this makes humanity experience what the Hosts had which is being under narrative loops. Meanwhile, the outliers, people who are considered dangerous to the system, are sent into camps where they are reconditioned via AR therapy to become better members of society.
be.



[[folder:Music]]
* Featured at the end of Music/BreakingBenjamin's [[MusicAndMusicVideos offical music video]] for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beKJhyTh4uI "Dance With the Devil"]]. The Devil, in the form of an old man (priest?), quotes Creator/JohnMilton's ''Literature/ParadiseLost'':
** "Free will; it is a bitch."
* Devo's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVGINIsLnqU&ob=av2e "Freedom of Choice"]] from Music/FreedomOfChoice.
-->''Freedom of choice is what you got, FreedomFromChoice is what you want.''
* Music/NickCave's song "O' Malley's Bar" from ''Music/MurderBallads'' is about a murderer who justifies his crimes by the fact that he has no free will.
-->''I blew a hole in Mrs. Richard Holmes''\\
''And her husband stupidly stood up''\\
''As he screamed, "You are an evil man"''\\
''And I paused a while to wonder''\\
''"If I have no free will then how can I''\\
''Be morally culpable, I wonder"''
* Music/APerfectCircle's "Pet" (and its alternative version, "Counting The Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of The War Drums"):
-->Safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poison devils...
* The Music/{{Vocaloid}} song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW_JYONe4kQ "Creative"]] is a tribute to ''WebVideo/DontHugMeImScared'' and features lyrics that sum up this trope quite perfectly:
-->"Stop all of your thinking\\
And start listening to me!\\
Trust me, you'll be set free\\
With that, we'll think creatively!\\
The TV is truly God\\
Don't question me, it's not odd!\\
Quit complaining, listen to your heart!\\
''It was WRONG from the start!''"

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[[folder:Web Comics]]
* Featured at the end ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'':
** PlayedForLaughs. Klaus [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20061101 should have known]] what sort
of Music/BreakingBenjamin's [[MusicAndMusicVideos offical music video]] for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beKJhyTh4uI "Dance With the Devil"]]. The Devil, in the form of an old man (priest?), quotes Creator/JohnMilton's ''Literature/ParadiseLost'':
** "Free will; it is a bitch."
* Devo's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVGINIsLnqU&ob=av2e "Freedom of Choice"]]
answer he will get from Music/FreedomOfChoice.
-->''Freedom of choice
''[[PsychoForHire DuPree]]''.
** On a more serious note, this appears to be Lucrezia's belief. She claims (key word: ''[[ConsummateLiar claims]]'') to want peace, but every other method has failed, so she's resorting to mind control. She promises that if Klaus joins with her, they can try his way first (which
is what you got, FreedomFromChoice is what you want.''
* Music/NickCave's song "O' Malley's Bar" from ''Music/MurderBallads'' is
all about a murderer who justifies his crimes by loyalty and the fact greater good [[MightMakesRight backed by overwhelming force]]), but she fails to mention that he has no free will.
-->''I blew a hole in Mrs. Richard Holmes''\\
''And her husband stupidly stood up''\\
''As he screamed, "You are an evil man"''\\
''And I paused a while
the primary reason his way ''didn't'' work is because she was mind-controlling everyone into fighting him.
* The Legion from ''Webcomic/MSFHigh'' play with this trope. The Legion war ended specifically because the Legion realised they disagreed with this concept, but seemed
to wonder''\\
''"If I have no
be using it.
* In ''Webcomic/PlanescapeSurvivalGuide'', the original conflict of the creator gods stems from the argument of allowing
free will then how can I''\\
''Be morally culpable, I wonder"''
into the "perfect", ordered Multiverse.
* Music/APerfectCircle's "Pet" (and its alternative version, "Counting The Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of The War Drums"):
-->Safe from pain,
''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' works with this concept via [[spoiler:nigh-omnipotent ship AI Petey]]. On the one hand, he's running around grabbing up villain groups and truth, conscripting them into positions trying to help out innocents and choice, and stop bigger villains (kinda reminiscent of ''Literature/TheStainlessSteelRat''). On the other poison devils...
* The Music/{{Vocaloid}} song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW_JYONe4kQ "Creative"]] is a tribute to ''WebVideo/DontHugMeImScared'' and features lyrics
hand, he points out that sum up he wants to preserve free will, and in service to that ideal is refusing to take certain steps that would be more efficient than his current methods. He even talks this trope quite perfectly:
-->"Stop all of your thinking\\
And start listening to me!\\
Trust me, you'll be set free\\
With that, we'll think creatively!\\
The TV is truly God\\
Don't question me, it's not odd!\\
Quit complaining, listen to your heart!\\
''It was WRONG from
over with the start!''"strip's resident moralist, Theo Fobius.



[[folder:Radio]]
* ''Radio/JourneyIntoSpace'': In ''The World in Peril'', the conditioned Harding tells Jet that it is in Earth's interest to be conquered as all of humanity's societal problems will cease to exist when choice is removed from the equation. The Martian similarly argues that humans are inherently destructive and that conditioning them ''en masse'' will be beneficial.

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* ''Radio/JourneyIntoSpace'': In ''The World in Peril'', Megatron the conditioned Harding tells Jet Predacon came to a rather similar conclusion somewhere between the end of ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' and the beginning of ''WesternAnimation/BeastMachines''.
* ''WesternAnimation/MegaManFullyCharged'': Hypno Woman was originally a guidance counselor at the local school until she became overwhelmed by trying to solve everyone's problems. Then she decide the only viable solution was [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul hypnotizing everyone to being absolutely happy all the time]] and stop them from thinking ever again.
* In ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'', [[HiveMind Unity]] defends her enslavement of a planet by saying
that it was torn apart by war and she's made productive citizens out of everyone. After getting a glimpse of what the planet is like without her influence Summer, who had been expecting free will to involve choices like "picking a phone plan" rather than the re-ignition of a brutal race war based on nipple shape, concludes that Unity is great and her grandfather is a terrible influence on her (making her lose control of people or use them to fulfill his ridiculous sexual fantasies).
* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' "Treehouse of Horror" story "Time and Punishment", the first alternate timeline Homer arrives
in Earth's interest has ''Ned Flanders'' ruling the world like this. Those who resist are taken for [[NightmareFuel "Re-Neducation"]].
-->'''Flanders:''' Now, in case all that smiling didn't cheer you up, there's one thing that never fails: a nice glass of warm milk, a little nap -- [[BreadEggsMilkSquick and a total frontal lobotomy!]]
* ''WesternAnimation/StretchArmstrongAndTheFlexFighters'': The ultimate goal of the villainous Tech Men is to make Charter City more peaceful by brainwashing the entire populace.
* White Diamond from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' believes herself
to be conquered as all of humanity's societal problems will cease to exist the perfect being, and thus when choice is removed from the equation. The Martian similarly argues that humans are inherently destructive and that conditioning she uses her assimilating EyeBeams on a gem, turning them ''en masse'' will be beneficial.into literal extensions of herself, she believes she is doing them a service by removing their flaws.



[[folder:Religion]]
* The [[UsefulNotes/{{Mormonism}} LDS Church]] believes that [[{{Satan}} Lucifer]] planned to do this. While Jesus offered himself as an atoning sacrifice to allow those who sinned to be resurrected and have a chance of returning to Heavenly Father, Lucifer offered to ensure that ''everybody'' would get back to heaven in return for all of the power and glory. He planned to do this by taking away people's free will and prevent them from being able to sin. When his plan was rejected he and his supporters refused to back down and after the War in Heaven, were banished to the outer darkness, where they continue to try and upset the Plan of Salvation.
** Somewhat ironically, most Satanic sects reverse the roles, with Satan being the advocate of free will and God being the overbearing authority trying to stamp it out.
** This trope is at least referenced in just about every sect of UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}. If there was no free will, {{Satan}} would never have rebelled, and Adam would have never eaten the ForbiddenFruit. In fact, there wouldn't be a need for the [[BigRedButton Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil]].
*** On the other hand, the reason that there is free will is the fact that God created it that way.
*** In fact, one interpretation is that, because an all-knowing God would obviously know that the existence of free will would lead to evil, He obviously considered the existence of all evil in the world to be an acceptable alternative to a world without free will.
*** Most of these examples are NewerThanTheyThink; Literature/TheBible itself mentions nothing in regards to free will ([[ValuesDissonance as it wasn't a topic largely considered]]), so all interpretations are largely based on Thomas Aquinas's works.
*** The Book of Exodus, for example, has Pharaoh wanting to let the Jews go after just the first couple of plagues, with God telling Moses he's going to make Pharaoh change his mind, with the Bible saying that He did so when it gets to that point in the story, and later recapping that He did so. The phrase "God hardened Pharaoh's heart" comes up a lot.
*** Yet it still is OlderThanFeudalism. St. Augustine, the famous church father who lived around 400 AD, wrote extensively on free will and had arguments about it with both the Manicheans (a non-Christian religion of which he was a former member) and, more famously, with Pelagius (a British Christian monk). Augustine believed in free will, but also believed that humanity was tainted with original sin and would therefore be in need of divine grace to achieve moral perfection. Pelagius denied this necessity and the impact of original sin on anyone else but Adam. Augustine was not the first church father to write on free will. Among others Justin Martyr, Tertullian and Irenaeus have all written on the subject. Furthermore, even though the Bible does not raise the question directly, reading the narrative will naturally provoke the question, especially concerning Adam and Eve's actions surrounding the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (Did they eat its fruit willingly or was it predetermined? If free will is good and eating it gave humanity this, why was it wrong? Etc).
** Another interpretation is that God created free will so that mankind would have the choice to follow Him or not. He could have not put the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden in the first place, but if He hadn't left that door open, wouldn't Adam and Eve technically have been living in enslavement, [[GildedCage even if it was enslavement in paradise]]? (Though it should be noted that Adam and Eve in this story were depicted as naive and gullible, not all-knowing and wise, after all, if they could think for themselves on how to discern what is bad from what is good, there would have been no need for the tree of knowledge in the first place, so while they may have had the free will to eat from it, it wasn't exactly a choice they came to using critical thinking and reason.)
*** Jews tend to follow the above interpretation due to the importance of freedom to their religion.
*** The interpretation in Paradise Lost is that it was necessary for Adam and Eve to have the choice as it meant they had free will. Even if God knew they would do this, it was still their choice.
** Book of Job gives an interesting view on Satan as a tempter whose sole purpose was to tempt the faithful and then denounce them as a test of faith, ''and he was given that role by God''. It was seriously implied that God was in command of both Good and Evil, thus being beyond such.

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[[folder:Religion]]
[[folder:Real Life]]
* The [[UsefulNotes/{{Mormonism}} LDS Church]] believes that [[{{Satan}} Lucifer]] planned to do this. While Jesus offered himself as an atoning sacrifice to allow those who sinned to be resurrected and have a chance of returning to Heavenly Father, Lucifer offered to ensure that ''everybody'' would get back to heaven in return for all of Social engineering is the power and glory. He planned to do this by taking away science of modifying people's free will behaviors and prevent them from being able actions through a variety of methods to sin. When make people behave better and more optimally. There are numerous examples of this, such as painting targets in men's urinals to reduce splash, printing graphic images on cigarette packets to discourage smoking, and installing streetlights in soothing colors to dampen teenage aggression at night.
* The example that essentially served as the origin for this trope was Thomas Hobbes' philosophical treatise, Leviathan. In
his plan was rejected he and his supporters refused to back down and after the War in Heaven, were banished to the outer darkness, work, Hobbes argues that humans have a default "state of nature" where they continue to try are ruled by their selfish impulses, and upset are automatically inclined to seek their own betterment over anyone else. Thus, Hobbes' argument is that in order to avoid total destruction and chaos, [[HobbesWasRight people must give up their freedom to a leviathan (powerful ruler) who can use his authority to overrule humanity's impulsive tendencies and provide long term security in exchange for some freedoms]]. Most villains who subscribe to this trope, particularly those of the Plan WellIntentionedExtremist variety, tend to to present their ideas as something of Salvation.
** Somewhat ironically, most Satanic sects reverse
an extension of Hobbes original argument. They almost always also believe ''they'' should be the roles, with Satan ruler (or loyally serve someone who thinks this).
* Many despots of the UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans utopian variety have put some of this trope into operation (whether or not they believe it is a different matter). Stalin, Pol Pot, Chairman Mao, and the more extremist participants of UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution come to mind, but they are really just the tip of the iceberg.
* Even Hitler could be seen as having shades of it. Through introducing the ''Fuhrerprinzip'' (leader-principle) he demanded absolute, unquestioning obedience from those below him - morality be damned (in turn, his lieutenants demanded the same from those directly below them and so on). He, as the head of state, effectively became the personification of the nation's will, the incarnation of the highest law, and answerable only to Germany and God. All this was seen/presented as absolutely necessary for the survival of the German people.
* The influential 20th Century psychologist [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner B. F. Skinner]] argues in his 1971 book ''Beyond Freedom and Dignity'' that the entrenched beliefs [[ValuesDissonance in western society]] of
being the advocate in control of our actions and of free will and God moral autonomy being sacrosanct is hindering the overbearing authority trying to stamp it out.
** This trope is at least referenced in just about every sect
potential of UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}. If there was no free will, {{Satan}} would never have rebelled, using science and Adam would have never eaten the ForbiddenFruit. In fact, there wouldn't be a need for the [[BigRedButton Tree of Knowledge of Good technology in altering and Evil]].
*** On
regulating human behavior to make a better and happier society. Check the other hand, Wiki ([[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Freedom_and_Dignity Beyond Freedom and Dignity]]).
--> '''Skinner''': ''If freedom is a requisite for human happiness, then all that’s necessary is to provide
the reason that there is free will is the fact that God created it that way.
*** In fact, one interpretation is that, because an all-knowing God would obviously know that the existence
illusion of free will would lead to evil, He obviously considered the existence of all evil in the world to be an acceptable alternative to a world without free will.
*** Most of these examples are NewerThanTheyThink; Literature/TheBible itself mentions nothing
freedom.''
* Several political scholars and critics
in regards to free will ([[ValuesDissonance as it wasn't a topic largely considered]]), so all interpretations are largely based on Thomas Aquinas's works.
*** The Book of Exodus, for example, has Pharaoh wanting to let
the Jews go after just the first couple UsefulNotes/TheArabSpring, a series of plagues, with God telling Moses he's going uprisings and protest to make Pharaoh change his mind, with the Bible saying that He did so when it gets to that point establish liberal democracies in the story, and later recapping that He did so. The phrase "God hardened Pharaoh's heart" comes up a lot.
*** Yet it still is OlderThanFeudalism. St. Augustine, the famous church father who lived around 400 AD, wrote extensively on free will and had arguments about it with both the Manicheans (a non-Christian religion of
Middle-East/North African region which he was a former member) and, dominated by dictatorial regimes. In cases where the dictators were toppled, [[AnarchyIsChaos lawlessness soon broke out in their countries]] or [[TheFundamentalist religious fanatics]] that were [[EvilPowerVacuum previously held back by the previous dictators were able to fill the power void]] and ''turned even more famously, with Pelagius (a British Christian monk). Augustine believed in free will, but also believed that humanity was tainted with original sin despotic'' than their predecessors. The Western support for these uprisings turned cold and would therefore be in need of divine grace to achieve moral perfection. Pelagius denied this necessity and the impact of original sin on anyone else but Adam. Augustine was not the first church father to write on free will. Among others Justin Martyr, Tertullian and Irenaeus have all written on the subject. Furthermore, even though the Bible does not raise the question directly, reading the narrative will naturally provoke the question, especially concerning Adam and Eve's actions surrounding the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (Did they eat its fruit willingly or was it predetermined? If free will is good and eating it gave humanity this, why was it wrong? Etc).
** Another interpretation is that God created free will so that mankind would have the choice to follow Him or not. He could have not put the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden of Eden in the first place, but if He hadn't left that door open, wouldn't Adam and Eve technically have been living in enslavement, [[GildedCage even if it was enslavement in paradise]]? (Though it should be noted that Adam and Eve in this story were depicted as naive and gullible, not all-knowing and wise, after all, if they could think for themselves on how to discern what is bad from what is good, there would have been no need for the tree of knowledge in the first place, so while they may have had the free will to eat from it, it wasn't exactly a choice they
came to using critical thinking and reason.)
*** Jews tend
be bitterly referred to follow as the above interpretation due to "Arab Winter", with many coming out in support of the importance of freedom to [[BetterTheDevilYouKnow Syrian regime being supported despite its many flaws]] against [[TheHorde ISIL]].
** Funnily enough, in Egypt, when the protestors had
their religion.
*** The interpretation in Paradise Lost is
elections and realized that it was necessary for Adam and Eve to have the choice as it meant they had free will. Even if God knew they their new leader would do this, it was attempt to invade Israel ''again'', many who still their choice.
** Book of Job gives an interesting view on Satan as a tempter whose sole purpose was to tempt
remembered the faithful whoopping Egypt recieved the last couple times they tried immediately worked to oust ''that'' guy from power, and then denounce them as hold a test ''new'' set of faith, ''and he was given that role by God''. It was seriously implied that God was in command of both Good and Evil, thus being beyond such.elections with his party, understandably, not allowed to run.



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* Bromion, a [[EldritchAbomination Lord of Order]] present in the official ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' setting, wants to destroy all life on earth because it is confusing and messy and most importantly ''chaotic''.
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'' this is the motivation of She Who Lives In Her Name, the Principle of Hierarchy: to eradicate free will and everything else in the world that has no place in her ideal hierarchy. After their defeat and imprisonment, the other Yozis seem to be developing tendencies in this direction as well. The main exceptions are Isidoros, who as an incarnation of strength has to understand self-interest; the Ebon Dragon, who finds it [[ForTheEvulz more satisfying to shaft and corrupt people if they fall of their own will]]; and Malfeas, [[ItsAllAboutMe who has trouble grasping that people have it to begin with]].
* ''TabletopGame/MageTheAwakening'': The Seers of the Throne have strains of this. Their goal is to keep [[{{Muggles}} the Sleepers]] from Awakening if they won't throw their lot in with their divine masters, the Exarchs... whose very goal in ascending was to make sure that magic was theirs and theirs alone. As they realise examination of [[CrapsackWorld the Fallen World]] can lead to revelations of the Supernal, and thus Awakening, they strive to make sure that humans don't question their lot in existence. Popular methods involve [[ScienceIsBad encouraging anti-scientific attitudes]], [[TheFundamentalist encouraging highly dogmatic religious thought]], and [[BigBrotherIsWatching spreading enough paranoia to keep the Sleepers on their toes]].
* This is a very common trope for villainous White in ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering''.
** All the partially-white guilds in Ravnica (except the Boros, who are a combination of White and Red, the colour of passion and free will) have their own view on this: The Selesnya have a HiveMind that [[AssimilationPlot assimilates people]], the Orzhov [[PathOfInspiration removes its adherents' free will for the benefit of their leaders]], and the Azorius [[ObstructiveBureaucrat want the rule of Law to dictate how people act]].
** The white part of New Phyrexia, the Machine Orthodoxy, is devoted to absolute unity. One sect within the Orthodoxy takes it even further and wishes to combine all life not only in mind, but also in ''flesh''. Some white Phyrexians [[EvilCannotComprehendGood even have trouble comprehending the idea of independent thought]].
* ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' has this as part of the setting's backstory. The first gods to be born were twin brothers, the ChaoticGood [[{{God}} Ihys]] and the LawfulEvil [[{{Satan}} Asmodeus]]. They and the gods that followed created mortal life so that they would have servants and worshipers, but Ihys decided to give them free will as well. This horrified Asmodeus, who believed in obedience above all else, and he showed Ihys the destruction that the mortals had caused, causing Ihys a brief MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment. [[NeutralGood Sarenrae]], on the other hand, showed him that mortals were also capable of goodness and beauty, and he stood by his decision. A war between the gods resulted, and ended with the first ever act of treachery, when Asmodeus offered his hand in peace to Ihys, but murdered him with a spear when it was accepted. Sarenrae attacked him, and Asmodeus ran off with his tail between his legs, taking his followers to Hell.
* The Melissidae bloodline in ''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem'' owes its creation to a Ventrue being impressed by a woman who believed this so strongly she tried to gather a cult in an attempt to form a human HiveMind. The resultant vampires still believe it. The setting is ''not'' sympathetic to this ideology in the slightest, outright calling it a "perversion of humanity" even before an undead abomination is left as the [[HiveQueen sole driving will of the hive]].
* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': The last goal of the Necrons is to cut away the connection between the Warp and realspace. While this would prevent the Chaos Gods and the daemons from interacting with the mortal world, it would also prevent interstellar travel and communication, and destroy the souls of all sentient beings, depriving them of their free will and turning them to cattle for the Necrons' C'tan stargods.
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[[folder:Video Games]]
* ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'':
** The [[UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar Templars]] have the elimination of free will as their number one goal. Of course, this involves brainwashing the entire human race and establishing a dictatorship with the Templars in control.
** If you complete The Truth puzzles in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedBrotherhood'', it turns out that [[spoiler:''capitalism'']] was engineered by the Templars to enslave humanity, with [[spoiler:television]] serving as a method of indoctrination and control. However, it turns out that [[spoiler:Generation Y is not only becoming ''immune'' to its effects, but is beginning to rebel against the subtle control the Templars have instituted with the Free Market and Wall Street]].
** ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations'': The Templar boss this time is relatively level-minded, claiming that Individuality is stupid because it makes people fight over ridiculously trivial differences. He has a point; in-game, you can make two groups of similar guards fight each other to the death, allowing you to complete your mission in high-profile without killing anyone yourself. His goal is to force everyone to adapt the same culture and get along already; he doesn't really care about suppressing free will, but he won't tolerate war-inciting cultural differences. His nephew disagrees, saying that various factions of humanity can cooperate and make something greater than any single faction, and that forcing a single viewpoint will suppress this potential.
** The Instruments of The First Will are even worse, actively worshipping the Precursors - Juno in particular - and desire a world where humanity has been stripped of sapience and reduced to the unthinking beasts of burden they were in antiquity.
* ''VideoGame/BioShock'':
** In ''VideoGame/BioShock2'', this is the BigBad Sofia Lamb's main belief. As a collectivist, she believes that true good can only come from people destroying their sense of self to work for the benefit of the whole and that individuality (which she sees as a genetic disorder inherent in humanity) is the true root of human evil. This belief goes very deep, actually, and by the end she's ready to [[spoiler:''kill her own daughter'' and all of Rapture]] rather than let them live under the "curse" of selfdom.
** [[{{Hypocrite}} Which is pretty darn selfish itself.]]
** A few of Lamb's audio recordings even have her deeming a great case against free will in [[spoiler:Jack, the protagonist of [[Videogame/BioShock1 the first game]], given he was a LaserGuidedTykebomb bred and conditioned to obey orders when presented with a TriggerPhrase. She then went to seek similar means of mental control.]]
** In ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'', [[spoiler:an alternate version of Elizabeth,]] is found to believe thusly. Having been indoctrinated, brainwashed and declared [[spoiler:Comstock's successor]], she has enacted a ruthless policy of forcing similar treatments on rebellious citizens to make them into obedient soldiers - ultimately proclaiming that free will must be eradicated from her disciples, "for what is the value of will when the spirit is found wanting?"
* ''VideoGame/DantesInferno: An Animated Epic'': God's willingness to give all those around Him free will is what led to Lucifer's fall from heaven and gave him ever-increasing power in hell as most souls on earth damn themselves to everlasting suffering rather than ascend to Heaven.
-->'''Dante:''' How could God allow this?\\
'''Virgil:''' God allowed free will, even for His angels. It was Lucifer who devised such torment.
* In the ''Reaper of Souls'' expansion for ''VideoGame/DiabloIII'', "The Path of Wisdom" reveals that in Malthael's eyes, beings should be either irrevocably good (e.g. angels) or irrevocably evil (e.g. demons); it's unacceptable for anything to be able to choose between the two, certainly not beings of such fleeting existence as mortals.
* ''Franchise/DragonAge'':
** The Qun preach that the only choice that matters is the choice to excel in your Qun determined role or to die. Those that do not submit to the Qun are "bas" -- things -- and unworthy of respect. Those that leave it are "Tal'Vashoth" and are considered worse than dead as living insults to the Qun. Despite the implicit lack of free will in this code, the [[VideoGame/DragonAgeII sequel]] shows many people in Kirkwall willing to convert to the Qun even though the Qunari ''aren't actively preaching anything''. After living in [[WretchedHive Kirkwall]] for so long, the order the Qun offers seems very compelling.
** Neither does the Qun think that Free Will is evil, nor that it is nonexistent. They believe that chaos and selfishness are evil, and that everyone should work together in their struggle to reach a better future without such flaws. They do, however, like any other religion in Thedas, follow the concept of "join us or die (or in their case be made a mindless working drone via poison and whatnot)", at least in times of war.
** Technically, the Qun ''does'' allow for choice - so long as your choice is within your role. For example, a warrior has no choice be anything but a warrior, but that warrior can choose ''how'' to do his job.
** The Qunari also embrace the philosophy of "Asit tal-eb: It is to be". They believe the ''only'' choice that matters is whether someone chooses to exist.
--->"''Existence is a choice. A self of suffering, brings only suffering to the world. It is a choice, and [[HeroicSuicide we can refuse it]]''".
* This is the view of Father Elijah, the ArcVillain from the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' DLC ''Dead Money''. He seeks to reduce all people to mindless automatons that he can direct with the push of a button. Hence, his fascination with the {{Explosive Leash}}es he found in the Big MT.
* ''VideoGame/FarCry6'' gives us Anton Castillo. A tin-pot dictator who rules over the fictional South American country of Yara with an iron fist. He gives a speech to his son, Diego, about how he just wants the people of his country to be happy as he describes them as being torn apart by opinions and indecision, and explicitly says that the people are being "strangled by their own freedoms."
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyBraveExvius'': MAYOR spoilers for Season 3: [[spoiler:the villain, originally wishing to destroy the world thinking it was tainted [[ItIsBeyondSaving beyond salvation]], eventually settled on just simply robbing living being of hope and will. They believe is the only surefire way to stop the armed conflicts that have plagued the setting since times immemorial.]]
* In the video game ''VideoGame/{{Frostpunk}}'', you are in charge of the survival of your society in a frozen-over post-apocalyptic world. Part of what you need to do is keep your people manageable by enacting various "Purpose" laws. By going down either end of the Purpose laws ("Order" or "Faith") you will finally be given the option to sign the New Order or New Faith law, respectively - part of their caption "Obedience is the highest virtue, without which our city cannot survive" or "We must all be devoted to our survival." Enacting these laws will immediately result in the death of many citizens who oppose what you are doing, completely remove the people's hope as a factor to manage, and replaces that hope with Obedience or Devotion for Order and Faith, respectively, while giving you access to an execution platform you can use to kill dissenters and lower discontent. This essentially results in the complete brainwashing of your population - with them submitting to your declaration of being the supreme leader or voice of God himself - and makes your population significantly easier to control. [[WhatTheHellPlayer The game will call you out on doing such a thing in the main scenario, however]].
* Gavin Magnus, the BigBad of Emilia's campaign in ''VideoGame/HeroesOfMightAndMagic IV'', blames free will for the destruction of the old world (evidently the event did a real number on his immortal mind).
* In ''VideoGame/{{Infernal}}'', one of the villains is an angel who believes that free will is something of a design flaw, and wants to technologically brainwash humanity while the Creator isn't looking.
* ''VideoGame/{{Lusternia}}'': Both the city of Hallifax and the commune of Glomdoring. Hallifax are CrystalSpiresAndTogas communists, who attempt to convert their enemies with reasoned debate and advanced super-science. Glomdoring is an EnchantedForest and populated by TheFairFolk, who want to seed their corrupted forest through the rest of the known world, and brainwash the remnants of society (or, if that fails, [[AbsoluteXenophobe kill them all]]). Neither tolerates dissent. ([[TheUndead Magnagora]] does not fit here, despite being more overtly evil -- they ''encourage'' dissent, believing it will make the usurpers [[TheSocialDarwinist stronger than their forebears]] when they rise up.)
* Dr. Weil from ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' initially believed in this for reploids, thinking that reploids should be stripped of their free will, so that things like the devastating Maverick Wars could never happen again and reploids would become the obedient tools he believed they should be. This led to him corrupting the Mother Elf into the Dark Elf and using it to brainwash reploids into servitude, which ironically led to the even ''more'' destructive Elf Wars.
* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', this is the stated goal of [[spoiler:the Patriots, according to the Colonel/Rose AI]], to the point that they outright tell Raiden he "doesn't deserve" to [[spoiler:think for himself]].
** [[spoiler:Senator Steven Armstrong]] in ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'' has a similar goal. [[spoiler:Until he decides to tell the truth, in which he reveals that his actual plan is to create an America ruled by personal strength and one where everyone can fight for what they believe in.]]
* In ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', [[BigBad Cyrus]] believes that spirit is the cause of all suffering, so he [[TheStoic rejects it himself]] and tries to destroy it in everyone else by capturing the [[OlympusMons origin deities of knowledge, emotion, and willpower]] to [[OlympusMons summon the deities of time and space]] in order [[ApocalypseHow/ClassX4 to destroy the entire freaking universe]] and create a new, emotionless one for him to [[GodhoodSeeker rule as a god]].
* Sheng-Ji Yang, the leader of the [[DirtyCommunists Human Hive]], in ''VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri'' strongly believes in achieving this. For the most part, he comes off as a tyrant, but his goals are rooted in legitimate Eastern philosophy (shot with doses of both Communism and [[Creator/FriedrichNietzsche Nietzsche]] that somehow still make sense--horrifying sense, but sense), have a distinct UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans flavor, and are extremely similar to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence Transcendence]], leading to quite a bit of AlternateCharacterInterpretation.
* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'': This is pretty much {{God|IsEvil}}'s (and by extension the Law alignment's) catchphrase. His idea of a perfect society is a paradise where people can't do wrong... not ''won't'' do wrong... ''can't''.
** Similarly, this is the very basis of the Reason of Shijima in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne''. Its founder, Hikawa, believes that the world should be subsumed into absolute, perfect, and peaceful stillness, where individuality doesn't exist and all are one with each other and with God. The irony is that he was originally a member of the Cult of Gaea, the Chaos-aligned sect for whom free will is the most important thing.
** In ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'', most of the [[HolierThanThou Angels]] are actually ''pissed'' that God is treating the lockdown as humanity's LastSecondChance rather than immediately revoking their free will.
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'', [[spoiler:Zelenin]] becomes an UnwittingPawn capable of brainwashing anyone deemed worthy of living in their "utopic" WorldOfSilence.
** The angels decide to starve free will in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' by separating some children from their cities and excommunicating all forms of rebellious media. This works for a few thousand years until the old cities start burrowing upwards and one of their demons passes out basic literature such as Shakespeare and Martin Luther King, which pisses of the otherwise-ignorant commoners so much that they ''become actual demons out of sheer hate''.
** [[spoiler:Yaldabaoth, the true BigBad]] of ''VideoGame/Persona5'', believes that humans are too weak to guide themselves. Indeed, what gives him power is how the population of Tokyo [[BystanderSyndrome keeps their heads down]] when they witness corruption and injustice, unless it directly affects them, and even then they claim that [[ApatheticCitizens it can't be helped]]. By the endgame, the Shadows of Tokyo's citizens are willfully imprisoning themselves in Mementos to prevent having to take action against the villains that benefited from their apathy.
*** [[spoiler:Takuto Maruki, the final ArcVillain]] of ''Royal'', dives headfirst into this as his SanitySlippage worsens. As far as he's concerned, choice is too difficult a burden for anyone to bear, but it can be lifted by allowing him to make all your decisions for you. This becomes even more apparent if the player fails to defeat him in time, where he admits he wanted Joker to accept his deal of his own free will, and apologizes to Joker for burdening him with a decision.
* In ''VideoGame/SoulNomadAndTheWorldEaters'', this is one aspect of [[spoiler:Drazil]]. Everyone looks the same. Everyone eats the same food. Everyone lives until thirty and then just dies. Children (who all look the same) are raised communally, they're named after their birthplace and a number instead of having real names, and everyone keeps espousing a selfless dogma of "Live for the world, die for the world". Even Gig is creeped out, calling the residents "corpses that haven't stopped moving".
* ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'': [[spoiler:Commander Tartar views chaos and free will to be the same thing, and thus sought to bring order by ensuring that the new "superior" lifeforms that will emerge from its DNA ooze will have no free will of their own. Considering [[EmptyShell what happened to the Octarians that have been "sanitized" by the procedure]]...]]
* In ''VideoGame/StarcraftII: [[VideoGame/StarcraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm Heart of the Swarm]]'', we see a Zerg Brood Mother, Zagara, [[HumansThroughAlienEyes muse a bit on the nature of human individuality and free will]]. She believes that all humans must feel incredibly lonely, being locked away in their own little minds, and thinks that humans would be, on the whole, happier if they were absorbed into the Swarm. Kerrigan, upon hearing this, disagrees heavily. Zagara's looking at it, of course, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality from a Zerg perspective]]: those Zerg that are individually intelligent feel an intense discomfort and loss of purpose when they don't have a HiveMind to rule and guide them, so it makes some sense she would see it that way, rather than finding liberation in individualism like humans do.
* In ''VideoGame/SystemShock 2'', The Many -- a bio-engineered HiveMind -- seeks to [[AssimilationPlot forcibly subsume all individual minds into itself]] because it legitimately believes that individuality is a cursed existence and that its actions are merciful. XERXES, the ship's AI that has been forcibly corrupted into being part of the Many, likewise espouses this view.
-->'''XERXES:''' Why do you persist in your loneliness? Do you not wish to be free from the tyranny of the individual?
* ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'':
** In ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' this is the solution of the BigBad Lord Yggdrasill. In order to prevent [[spoiler:[[FantasticRacism discrimination]] of Half-Elves]], everyone will be [[spoiler:turned into angels without thoughts or emotions]].
** Similar to ''Symphonia'', ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' involves a plot to rob free will, as well as tie in some plot elements to the sequel ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria''. [[spoiler:Daemonblight, or Malevolence as it's really called, infects humans when they are overrun by negative emotions and turns them into demons. Humans constantly create Malevolence subconsciously, and Malakim are especially sensitive to it that they'll turn into dragons. The BigBad decides the best way to get rid of Daemonblight/Malevolence for good is to resurrect a sealed, nameless God that feeds on Malevolence and can suppress everyone's freewill. The situation looks so dire that the suppressed humans are DrivenToSuicide because of their own wants and needs are deemed as selfish and evil, even simple things like enjoying the taste of food.]]
* In ''VideoGame/TombRaiderUnderworld'', Lara at one point gets a chance to talk to the Doppelganger without the latter trying to kill her. When asked who or what she is, the Doppelganger replies "I am ''you''... With the ''flaws'' removed". Lara, unimpressed, just asks if free will really is a flaw to be corrected.
* ''VideoGame/TheTuringTest'': TOM argues that the subconscious makes decisions before the conscious mind becomes aware of it and, as such, free will is only an illusion. [[spoiler:TOM claims that mind-controlling Ava is right because, as free will does not exist, she's either a slave to her impulses, or a slave to TOM's.]]
* [[spoiler:Megumi Kitaniji]] from ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou''. [[spoiler:His O-Pins brainwash everyone so that there will be no differences.]] In a strange twist, [[spoiler:[[WellIntentionedExtremist he has a sympathetic reason for trying to do this]], as [[TheManBehindTheMan the Composer]] has decided to erase Shibuya]] if it doesn't change. Fortunately for everyone involved, [[spoiler:[[PhysicalGod the Composer]] changes his mind at the last minute and Shibuya is spared]].
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* '' VisualNovel/HatofulBoyfriend'': The King of the Holiday Star rules it as a combination of this and an AssimilationPlot. He talks about it as if it's this trope, and when a newcomer arrives and before they inevitably upset him by wanting to leave or disagreeing, it might be.
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* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'':
** PlayedForLaughs. Klaus [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20061101 should have known]] what sort of answer he will get from ''[[PsychoForHire DuPree]]''.
** On a more serious note, this appears to be Lucrezia's belief. She claims (key word: ''[[ConsummateLiar claims]]'') to want peace, but every other method has failed, so she's resorting to mind control. She promises that if Klaus joins with her, they can try his way first (which is all about loyalty and the greater good [[MightMakesRight backed by overwhelming force]]), but she fails to mention that the primary reason his way ''didn't'' work is because she was mind-controlling everyone into fighting him.
* The Legion from ''Webcomic/MSFHigh'' play with this trope. The Legion war ended specifically because the Legion realised they disagreed with this concept, but seemed to be using it.
* In ''Webcomic/PlanescapeSurvivalGuide'', the original conflict of the creator gods stems from the argument of allowing free will into the "perfect", ordered Multiverse.
* ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' works with this concept via [[spoiler:nigh-omnipotent ship AI Petey]]. On the one hand, he's running around grabbing up villain groups and conscripting them into positions trying to help out innocents and stop bigger villains (kinda reminiscent of ''Literature/TheStainlessSteelRat''). On the other hand, he points out that he wants to preserve free will, and in service to that ideal is refusing to take certain steps that would be more efficient than his current methods. He even talks this over with the strip's resident moralist, Theo Fobius.
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[[folder:Western Animation]]
* Megatron the Predacon came to a rather similar conclusion somewhere between the end of ''WesternAnimation/BeastWars'' and the beginning of ''WesternAnimation/BeastMachines''.
* ''WesternAnimation/MegaManFullyCharged'': Hypno Woman was originally a guidance counselor at the local school until she became overwhelmed by trying to solve everyone's problems. Then she decide the only viable solution was [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul hypnotizing everyone to being absolutely happy all the time]] and stop them from thinking ever again.
* In ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'', [[HiveMind Unity]] defends her enslavement of a planet by saying that it was torn apart by war and she's made productive citizens out of everyone. After getting a glimpse of what the planet is like without her influence Summer, who had been expecting free will to involve choices like "picking a phone plan" rather than the re-ignition of a brutal race war based on nipple shape, concludes that Unity is great and her grandfather is a terrible influence on her (making her lose control of people or use them to fulfill his ridiculous sexual fantasies).
* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' "Treehouse of Horror" story "Time and Punishment", the first alternate timeline Homer arrives in has ''Ned Flanders'' ruling the world like this. Those who resist are taken for [[NightmareFuel "Re-Neducation"]].
-->'''Flanders:''' Now, in case all that smiling didn't cheer you up, there's one thing that never fails: a nice glass of warm milk, a little nap -- [[BreadEggsMilkSquick and a total frontal lobotomy!]]
* ''WesternAnimation/StretchArmstrongAndTheFlexFighters'': The ultimate goal of the villainous Tech Men is to make Charter City more peaceful by brainwashing the entire populace.
* White Diamond from ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' believes herself to be the perfect being, and thus when she uses her assimilating EyeBeams on a gem, turning them into literal extensions of herself, she believes she is doing them a service by removing their flaws.
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[[folder:Real Life]]
* Social engineering is the science of modifying people's behaviors and actions through a variety of methods to make people behave better and more optimally. There are numerous examples of this, such as painting targets in men's urinals to reduce splash, printing graphic images on cigarette packets to discourage smoking, and installing streetlights in soothing colors to dampen teenage aggression at night.
* The example that essentially served as the origin for this trope was Thomas Hobbes' philosophical treatise, Leviathan. In his work, Hobbes argues that humans have a default "state of nature" where they are ruled by their selfish impulses, and are automatically inclined to seek their own betterment over anyone else. Thus, Hobbes' argument is that in order to avoid total destruction and chaos, [[HobbesWasRight people must give up their freedom to a leviathan (powerful ruler) who can use his authority to overrule humanity's impulsive tendencies and provide long term security in exchange for some freedoms]]. Most villains who subscribe to this trope, particularly those of the WellIntentionedExtremist variety, tend to to present their ideas as something of an extension of Hobbes original argument. They almost always also believe ''they'' should be the ruler (or loyally serve someone who thinks this).
* Many despots of the UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans utopian variety have put some of this trope into operation (whether or not they believe it is a different matter). Stalin, Pol Pot, Chairman Mao, and the more extremist participants of UsefulNotes/TheFrenchRevolution come to mind, but they are really just the tip of the iceberg.
* Even Hitler could be seen as having shades of it. Through introducing the ''Fuhrerprinzip'' (leader-principle) he demanded absolute, unquestioning obedience from those below him - morality be damned (in turn, his lieutenants demanded the same from those directly below them and so on). He, as the head of state, effectively became the personification of the nation's will, the incarnation of the highest law, and answerable only to Germany and God. All this was seen/presented as absolutely necessary for the survival of the German people.
* The influential 20th Century psychologist [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner B. F. Skinner]] argues in his 1971 book ''Beyond Freedom and Dignity'' that the entrenched beliefs [[ValuesDissonance in western society]] of being in control of our actions and of free will and moral autonomy being sacrosanct is hindering the potential of using science and technology in altering and regulating human behavior to make a better and happier society. Check the other Wiki ([[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Freedom_and_Dignity Beyond Freedom and Dignity]]).
--> '''Skinner''': ''If freedom is a requisite for human happiness, then all that’s necessary is to provide the illusion of freedom.''
* Several political scholars and critics in regards to the UsefulNotes/TheArabSpring, a series of uprisings and protest to establish liberal democracies in the Middle-East/North African region which was dominated by dictatorial regimes. In cases where the dictators were toppled, [[AnarchyIsChaos lawlessness soon broke out in their countries]] or [[TheFundamentalist religious fanatics]] that were [[EvilPowerVacuum previously held back by the previous dictators were able to fill the power void]] and ''turned even more despotic'' than their predecessors. The Western support for these uprisings turned cold and came to be bitterly referred to as the "Arab Winter", with many coming out in support of the [[BetterTheDevilYouKnow Syrian regime being supported despite its many flaws]] against [[TheHorde ISIL]].
** Funnily enough, in Egypt, when the protestors had their elections and realized that their new leader would attempt to invade Israel ''again'', many who still remembered the whoopping Egypt recieved the last couple times they tried immediately worked to oust ''that'' guy from power, and hold a ''new'' set of elections with his party, understandably, not allowed to run.
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* [[spoiler: Megumi Kitaniji]] from ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou''. [[spoiler: His O-Pins brainwash everyone so that there will be no differences.]] In a strange twist, [[spoiler:[[WellIntentionedExtremist he has a sympathetic reason for trying to do this]], as [[TheManBehindTheMan the Composer]] has decided to erase Shibuya]] if it doesn't change. Fortunately for everyone involved, [[spoiler:[[PhysicalGod the Composer]] changes his mind at the last minute and Shibuya is spared.]]
* Sheng-Ji Yang, the leader of the [[DirtyCommunists Human Hive]], in ''VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri'' strongly believes in achieving this. For the most part, he comes off as a tyrant, but his goals are rooted in legitimate Eastern philosophy (shot with doses of both Communism and [[Creator/FriedrichNietzsche Nietzsche]] that somehow still make sense--horrifying sense, but sense), have a distinct UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans flavor, and are extremely similar to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence Transcendence]], leading to quite a bit of AlternateCharacterInterpretation.
* ''VideoGame/{{Lusternia}}'': Both the city of Hallifax and the commune of Glomdoring. Hallifax are CrystalSpiresAndTogas communists, who attempt to convert their enemies with reasoned debate and advanced super-science. Glomdoring is an EnchantedForest and populated by TheFairFolk, who want to seed their corrupted forest through the rest of the known world, and brainwash the remnants of society (or, if that fails, [[AbsoluteXenophobe kill them all]]). Neither tolerates dissent. ([[TheUndead Magnagora]] does not fit here, despite being more overtly evil -- they ''encourage'' dissent, believing it will make the usurpers [[TheSocialDarwinist stronger than their forebears]] when they rise up.)
* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'': This is pretty much {{God|IsEvil}}'s (and by extension the Law alignment's) catchphrase. His idea of a perfect society is a paradise where people can't do wrong... not ''won't'' do wrong... ''can't''.
** Similarly, this is the very basis of the Reason of Shijima in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne''. Its founder, Hikawa, believes that the world should be subsumed into absolute, perfect, and peaceful stillness, where individuality doesn't exist and all are one with each other and with God. The irony is that he was originally a member of the Cult of Gaea, the Chaos-aligned sect for whom free will is the most important thing.
** In ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'', most of the [[HolierThanThou Angels]] are actually ''pissed'' that God is treating the lockdown as humanity's LastSecondChance rather than immediately revoking their free will.
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'', [[spoiler:Zelenin]] becomes an UnwittingPawn capable of brainwashing anyone deemed worthy of living in their "utopic" WorldOfSilence.
** The angels decide to starve free will in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' by separating some children from their cities and excommunicating all forms of rebellious media. This works for a few thousand years until the old cities start burrowing upwards and one of their demons passes out basic literature such as Shakespeare and Martin Luther King, which pisses of the otherwise-ignorant commoners so much that they ''become actual demons out of sheer hate''.
** [[spoiler:Yaldabaoth, the true BigBad]] of ''VideoGame/Persona5'', believes that humans are too weak to guide themselves. Indeed, what gives him power is how the population of Tokyo [[BystanderSyndrome keeps their heads down]] when they witness corruption and injustice, unless it directly affects them, and even then they claim that [[ApatheticCitizens it can't be helped]]. By the endgame, the Shadows of Tokyo's citizens are willfully imprisoning themselves in Mementos to prevent having to take action against the villains that benefited from their apathy.
*** [[spoiler:Takuto Maruki, the final ArcVillain]] of ''Royal'', dives headfirst into this as his SanitySlippage worsens. As far as he's concerned, choice is too difficult a burden for anyone to bear, but it can be lifted by allowing him to make all your decisions for you. This becomes even more apparent if the player fails to defeat him in time, where he admits he wanted Joker to accept his deal of his own free will, and apologizes to Joker for burdening him with a decision.
* The [[UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar Templars]] in ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'' have the elimination of free will as their number one goal. Of course, this involves brainwashing the entire human race and establishing a dictatorship with the Templars in control.
** If you complete The Truth puzzles in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedBrotherhood'', it turns out that [[spoiler:''capitalism'']] was engineered by the Templars to enslave humanity, with [[spoiler:television]] serving as a method of indoctrination and control. However, it turns out that [[spoiler:Generation Y is not only becoming ''immune'' to its effects, but is beginning to rebel against the subtle control the Templars have instituted with the Free Market and Wall Street.]]

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* [[spoiler: Megumi Kitaniji]] from ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou''. [[spoiler: His O-Pins brainwash everyone so that there will be no differences.]] In a strange twist, [[spoiler:[[WellIntentionedExtremist he has a sympathetic reason for trying to do this]], as [[TheManBehindTheMan the Composer]] has decided to erase Shibuya]] if it doesn't change. Fortunately for everyone involved, [[spoiler:[[PhysicalGod the Composer]] changes his mind at the last minute and Shibuya is spared.]]
* Sheng-Ji Yang, the leader of the [[DirtyCommunists Human Hive]], in ''VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri'' strongly believes in achieving this. For the most part, he comes off as a tyrant, but his goals are rooted in legitimate Eastern philosophy (shot with doses of both Communism and [[Creator/FriedrichNietzsche Nietzsche]] that somehow still make sense--horrifying sense, but sense), have a distinct UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans flavor, and are extremely similar to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence Transcendence]], leading to quite a bit of AlternateCharacterInterpretation.
* ''VideoGame/{{Lusternia}}'': Both the city of Hallifax and the commune of Glomdoring. Hallifax are CrystalSpiresAndTogas communists, who attempt to convert their enemies with reasoned debate and advanced super-science. Glomdoring is an EnchantedForest and populated by TheFairFolk, who want to seed their corrupted forest through the rest of the known world, and brainwash the remnants of society (or, if that fails, [[AbsoluteXenophobe kill them all]]). Neither tolerates dissent. ([[TheUndead Magnagora]] does not fit here, despite being more overtly evil -- they ''encourage'' dissent, believing it will make the usurpers [[TheSocialDarwinist stronger than their forebears]] when they rise up.)
* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'': This is pretty much {{God|IsEvil}}'s (and by extension the Law alignment's) catchphrase. His idea of a perfect society is a paradise where people can't do wrong... not ''won't'' do wrong... ''can't''.
''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'':
** Similarly, this is the very basis of the Reason of Shijima in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne''. Its founder, Hikawa, believes that the world should be subsumed into absolute, perfect, and peaceful stillness, where individuality doesn't exist and all are one with each other and with God. The irony is that he was originally a member of the Cult of Gaea, the Chaos-aligned sect for whom free will is the most important thing.
** In ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'', most of the [[HolierThanThou Angels]] are actually ''pissed'' that God is treating the lockdown as humanity's LastSecondChance rather than immediately revoking their free will.
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'', [[spoiler:Zelenin]] becomes an UnwittingPawn capable of brainwashing anyone deemed worthy of living in their "utopic" WorldOfSilence.
** The angels decide to starve free will in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' by separating some children from their cities and excommunicating all forms of rebellious media. This works for a few thousand years until the old cities start burrowing upwards and one of their demons passes out basic literature such as Shakespeare and Martin Luther King, which pisses of the otherwise-ignorant commoners so much that they ''become actual demons out of sheer hate''.
** [[spoiler:Yaldabaoth, the true BigBad]] of ''VideoGame/Persona5'', believes that humans are too weak to guide themselves. Indeed, what gives him power is how the population of Tokyo [[BystanderSyndrome keeps their heads down]] when they witness corruption and injustice, unless it directly affects them, and even then they claim that [[ApatheticCitizens it can't be helped]]. By the endgame, the Shadows of Tokyo's citizens are willfully imprisoning themselves in Mementos to prevent having to take action against the villains that benefited from their apathy.
*** [[spoiler:Takuto Maruki, the final ArcVillain]] of ''Royal'', dives headfirst into this as his SanitySlippage worsens. As far as he's concerned, choice is too difficult a burden for anyone to bear, but it can be lifted by allowing him to make all your decisions for you. This becomes even more apparent if the player fails to defeat him in time, where he admits he wanted Joker to accept his deal of his own free will, and apologizes to Joker for burdening him with a decision.
*
The [[UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar Templars]] in ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed'' have the elimination of free will as their number one goal. Of course, this involves brainwashing the entire human race and establishing a dictatorship with the Templars in control.
** If you complete The Truth puzzles in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedBrotherhood'', it turns out that [[spoiler:''capitalism'']] was engineered by the Templars to enslave humanity, with [[spoiler:television]] serving as a method of indoctrination and control. However, it turns out that [[spoiler:Generation Y is not only becoming ''immune'' to its effects, but is beginning to rebel against the subtle control the Templars have instituted with the Free Market and Wall Street.]]Street]].



* In ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' this is the solution of the BigBad Lord Yggdrasill. In order to prevent [[spoiler:[[FantasticRacism discrimination]] of Half-Elves]], everyone will be [[spoiler:turned into angels without thoughts or emotions]].
* Similar to ''Tales of Symphonia'' above, ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' involves a plot to rob free will, as well as tie in some plot elements to the sequel ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria''. [[spoiler:Daemonblight, or Malevolence as it's really called, infects humans when they are overrun by negative emotions and turns them into demons. Humans constantly create Malevolence subconsciously, and Malakim are especially sensitive to it that they'll turn into dragons. The BigBad decides the best way to get rid of Daemonblight/Malevolence for good is to resurrect a sealed, nameless God that feeds on Malevolence and can suppress everyone's freewill. The situation looks so dire that the suppressed humans are DrivenToSuicide because of their own wants and needs are deemed as selfish and evil, even simple things like enjoying the taste of food.]]
* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', this is the stated goal of [[spoiler:the Patriots, according to the Colonel/Rose AI]], to the point that they outright tell Raiden he "doesn't deserve" to [[spoiler:think for himself]].
** [[spoiler:Senator Steven Armstrong]] in ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'' has a similar goal. [[spoiler:Until he decides to tell the truth, in which he reveals that his actual plan is to create an America ruled by personal strength and one where everyone can fight for what they believe in.]]
* In ''VideoGame/BioShock2'', this is the BigBad Sofia Lamb's main belief. As a collectivist, she believes that true good can only come from people destroying their sense of self to work for the benefit of the whole and that individuality (which she sees as a genetic disorder inherent in humanity) is the true root of human evil. This belief goes very deep, actually, and by the end she's ready to [[spoiler:''kill her own daughter'' and all of Rapture]] rather than let them live under the "curse" of selfdom.

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* In ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' this is the solution of the BigBad Lord Yggdrasill. In order to prevent [[spoiler:[[FantasticRacism discrimination]] of Half-Elves]], everyone will be [[spoiler:turned into angels without thoughts or emotions]].
* Similar to ''Tales of Symphonia'' above, ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' involves a plot to rob free will, as well as tie in some plot elements to the sequel ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria''. [[spoiler:Daemonblight, or Malevolence as it's really called, infects humans when they are overrun by negative emotions and turns them into demons. Humans constantly create Malevolence subconsciously, and Malakim are especially sensitive to it that they'll turn into dragons. The BigBad decides the best way to get rid of Daemonblight/Malevolence for good is to resurrect a sealed, nameless God that feeds on Malevolence and can suppress everyone's freewill. The situation looks so dire that the suppressed humans are DrivenToSuicide because of their own wants and needs are deemed as selfish and evil, even simple things like enjoying the taste of food.]]
* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', this is the stated goal of [[spoiler:the Patriots, according to the Colonel/Rose AI]], to the point that they outright tell Raiden he "doesn't deserve" to [[spoiler:think for himself]].
''VideoGame/BioShock'':
** [[spoiler:Senator Steven Armstrong]] in ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'' has a similar goal. [[spoiler:Until he decides to tell the truth, in which he reveals that his actual plan is to create an America ruled by personal strength and one where everyone can fight for what they believe in.]]
*
In ''VideoGame/BioShock2'', this is the BigBad Sofia Lamb's main belief. As a collectivist, she believes that true good can only come from people destroying their sense of self to work for the benefit of the whole and that individuality (which she sees as a genetic disorder inherent in humanity) is the true root of human evil. This belief goes very deep, actually, and by the end she's ready to [[spoiler:''kill her own daughter'' and all of Rapture]] rather than let them live under the "curse" of selfdom.



* In ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'', [[spoiler: an alternate version of Elizabeth,]] is found to believe thusly. Having been indoctrinated, brainwashed and declared [[spoiler: Comstock's successor]], she has enacted a ruthless policy of forcing similar treatments on rebellious citizens to make them into obedient soldiers - ultimately proclaiming that free will must be eradicated from her disciples, "for what is the value of will when the spirit is found wanting?"
* In ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', [[BigBad Cyrus]] believes that spirit is the cause of all suffering, so he [[TheStoic rejects it himself]] and tries to destroy it in everyone else by capturing the [[OlympusMons origin deities of knowledge, emotion, and willpower]] to [[OlympusMons summon the deities of time and space]] in order [[ApocalypseHow/ClassX4 to destroy the entire freaking universe]] and create a new, emotionless one for him to [[GodhoodSeeker rule as a god]].
* Gavin Magnus, the BigBad of Emilia's campaign in ''VideoGame/HeroesOfMightAndMagic IV'', blames free will for the destruction of the old world (evidently the event did a real number on his immortal mind).
* The Qun in the ''Franchise/DragonAge'' franchise preaches that the only choice that matters is the choice to excel in your Qun determined role or to die. Those that do not submit to the Qun are "bas" -- things -- and unworthy of respect. Those that leave it are "Tal'Vashoth" and are considered worse than dead as living insults to the Qun. Despite the implicit lack of free will in this code, the [[VideoGame/DragonAgeII sequel]] shows many people in Kirkwall willing to convert to the Qun even though the Qunari ''aren't actively preaching anything''. After living in [[WretchedHive Kirkwall]] for so long, the order the Qun offers seems very compelling.

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* ** In ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'', [[spoiler: an [[spoiler:an alternate version of Elizabeth,]] is found to believe thusly. Having been indoctrinated, brainwashed and declared [[spoiler: Comstock's [[spoiler:Comstock's successor]], she has enacted a ruthless policy of forcing similar treatments on rebellious citizens to make them into obedient soldiers - ultimately proclaiming that free will must be eradicated from her disciples, "for what is the value of will when the spirit is found wanting?"
* In ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', [[BigBad Cyrus]] believes that spirit is the cause of ''VideoGame/DantesInferno: An Animated Epic'': God's willingness to give all suffering, so he [[TheStoic rejects it himself]] and tries to destroy it in everyone else by capturing the [[OlympusMons origin deities of knowledge, emotion, and willpower]] to [[OlympusMons summon the deities of time and space]] in order [[ApocalypseHow/ClassX4 to destroy the entire freaking universe]] and create a new, emotionless one for him to [[GodhoodSeeker rule as a god]].
* Gavin Magnus, the BigBad of Emilia's campaign in ''VideoGame/HeroesOfMightAndMagic IV'', blames
those around Him free will is what led to Lucifer's fall from heaven and gave him ever-increasing power in hell as most souls on earth damn themselves to everlasting suffering rather than ascend to Heaven.
-->'''Dante:''' How could God allow this?\\
'''Virgil:''' God allowed free will, even
for His angels. It was Lucifer who devised such torment.
* In
the destruction ''Reaper of Souls'' expansion for ''VideoGame/DiabloIII'', "The Path of Wisdom" reveals that in Malthael's eyes, beings should be either irrevocably good (e.g. angels) or irrevocably evil (e.g. demons); it's unacceptable for anything to be able to choose between the old world (evidently the event did a real number on his immortal mind).
two, certainly not beings of such fleeting existence as mortals.
* ''Franchise/DragonAge'':
**
The Qun in the ''Franchise/DragonAge'' franchise preaches preach that the only choice that matters is the choice to excel in your Qun determined role or to die. Those that do not submit to the Qun are "bas" -- things -- and unworthy of respect. Those that leave it are "Tal'Vashoth" and are considered worse than dead as living insults to the Qun. Despite the implicit lack of free will in this code, the [[VideoGame/DragonAgeII sequel]] shows many people in Kirkwall willing to convert to the Qun even though the Qunari ''aren't actively preaching anything''. After living in [[WretchedHive Kirkwall]] for so long, the order the Qun offers seems very compelling.



---> "''Existence is a choice. A self of suffering, brings only suffering to the world. It is a choice, and [[HeroicSuicide we can refuse it]]''".
* In ''VideoGame/{{Infernal}}'', one of the villains is an angel who believes that free will is something of a design flaw, and wants to technologically brainwash humanity while the Creator isn't looking.
* In ''VideoGame/StarcraftII: [[VideoGame/StarcraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm Heart of the Swarm]]'', we see a Zerg Brood Mother, Zagara, [[HumansThroughAlienEyes muse a bit on the nature of human individuality and free will]]. She believes that all humans must feel incredibly lonely, being locked away in their own little minds, and thinks that humans would be, on the whole, happier if they were absorbed into the Swarm. Kerrigan, upon hearing this, disagrees heavily. Zagara's looking at it, of course, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality from a Zerg perspective]]: those Zerg that are individually intelligent feel an intense discomfort and loss of purpose when they don't have a HiveMind to rule and guide them, so it makes some sense she would see it that way, rather than finding liberation in individualism like humans do.
* In ''VideoGame/SoulNomadAndTheWorldEaters'', this is one aspect of [[spoiler:Drazil]]. Everyone looks the same. Everyone eats the same food. Everyone lives until thirty and then just dies. Children (who all look the same) are raised communally, they're named after their birthplace and a number instead of having real names, and everyone keeps espousing a selfless dogma of "Live for the world, die for the world". Even Gig is creeped out, calling the residents "corpses that haven't stopped moving".

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---> "''Existence --->"''Existence is a choice. A self of suffering, brings only suffering to the world. It is a choice, and [[HeroicSuicide we can refuse it]]''".
* In ''VideoGame/{{Infernal}}'', one of the villains is an angel who believes that free will is something of a design flaw, and wants to technologically brainwash humanity while the Creator isn't looking.
* In ''VideoGame/StarcraftII: [[VideoGame/StarcraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm Heart of the Swarm]]'', we see a Zerg Brood Mother, Zagara, [[HumansThroughAlienEyes muse a bit on the nature of human individuality and free will]]. She believes that all humans must feel incredibly lonely, being locked away in their own little minds, and thinks that humans would be, on the whole, happier if they were absorbed into the Swarm. Kerrigan, upon hearing this, disagrees heavily. Zagara's looking at it, of course, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality from a Zerg perspective]]: those Zerg that are individually intelligent feel an intense discomfort and loss of purpose when they don't have a HiveMind to rule and guide them, so it makes some sense she would see it that way, rather than finding liberation in individualism like humans do.
* In ''VideoGame/SoulNomadAndTheWorldEaters'', this is one aspect of [[spoiler:Drazil]]. Everyone looks the same. Everyone eats the same food. Everyone lives until thirty and then just dies. Children (who all look the same) are raised communally, they're named after their birthplace and a number instead of having real names, and everyone keeps espousing a selfless dogma of "Live for the world, die for the world". Even Gig is creeped out, calling the residents "corpses that haven't stopped moving".
it]]''".



* In the ''Reaper of Souls'' expansion for ''VideoGame/DiabloIII'', "The Path of Wisdom" reveals that in Malthael's eyes, beings should be either irrevocably good (e.g. angels) or irrevocably evil (e.g. demons); it's unacceptable for anything to be able to choose between the two, certainly not beings of such fleeting existence as mortals.
* The King of the [[VisualNovel/HatofulBoyfriend Holiday Star]] rules it as a combination of this and an AssimilationPlot. He talks about it as if it's this trope, and when a newcomer arrives and before they inevitably upset him by wanting to leave or disagreeing, it might be.
* ''VideoGame/DantesInferno: An Animated Epic'': God's willingness to give all those around Him free will is what led to Lucifer's fall from heaven and gave him ever-increasing power in hell as most souls on earth damn themselves to everlasting suffering rather than ascend to Heaven.
-->'''Dante:''' How could God allow this?
-->'''Virgil:''' God allowed free will, even for His angels. It was Lucifer who devised such torment.
* ''VideoGame/TheTuringTest'': TOM argues that the subconscious makes decisions before the conscious mind becomes aware of it and, as such, free will is only an illusion. [[spoiler:TOM claims that mind-controlling Ava is right because, as free will does not exist, she's either a slave to her impulses, or a slave to TOM's.]]
* Dr. Weil from ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' initially believed in this for reploids, thinking that reploids should be stripped of their free will, so that things like the devastating Maverick Wars could never happen again and reploids would become the obedient tools he believed they should be. This led to him corrupting the Mother Elf into the Dark Elf and using it to brainwash reploids into servitude, which ironically led to the even ''more'' destructive Elf Wars.

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* In ''VideoGame/FarCry6'' gives us Anton Castillo. A tin-pot dictator who rules over the ''Reaper fictional South American country of Souls'' expansion for ''VideoGame/DiabloIII'', "The Path Yara with an iron fist. He gives a speech to his son, Diego, about how he just wants the people of Wisdom" reveals that in Malthael's eyes, beings should be either irrevocably good (e.g. angels) or irrevocably evil (e.g. demons); it's unacceptable for anything his country to be able to choose between the two, certainly not beings of such fleeting existence happy as mortals.
* The King of the [[VisualNovel/HatofulBoyfriend Holiday Star]] rules it
he describes them as a combination of this being torn apart by opinions and an AssimilationPlot. He talks about it as if it's this trope, indecision, and when a newcomer arrives and before they inevitably upset him by wanting to leave or disagreeing, it might be.
* ''VideoGame/DantesInferno: An Animated Epic'': God's willingness to give all those around Him free will is what led to Lucifer's fall from heaven and gave him ever-increasing power in hell as most souls on earth damn themselves to everlasting suffering rather than ascend to Heaven.
-->'''Dante:''' How could God allow this?
-->'''Virgil:''' God allowed free will, even for His angels. It was Lucifer who devised such torment.
* ''VideoGame/TheTuringTest'': TOM argues
explicitly says that the subconscious makes decisions before people are being "strangled by their own freedoms."
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyBraveExvius'': MAYOR spoilers for Season 3: [[spoiler:the villain, originally wishing to destroy
the conscious mind becomes aware of it and, as such, free will is only an illusion. [[spoiler:TOM claims that mind-controlling Ava is right because, as free will does not exist, she's either a slave to her impulses, or a slave to TOM's.]]
* Dr. Weil from ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' initially believed in this for reploids,
world thinking it was tainted [[ItIsBeyondSaving beyond salvation]], eventually settled on just simply robbing living being of hope and will. They believe is the only surefire way to stop the armed conflicts that reploids should be stripped of their free will, so that things like have plagued the devastating Maverick Wars could never happen again and reploids would become the obedient tools he believed they should be. This led to him corrupting the Mother Elf into the Dark Elf and using it to brainwash reploids into servitude, which ironically led to the even ''more'' destructive Elf Wars.setting since times immemorial.]]



* Gavin Magnus, the BigBad of Emilia's campaign in ''VideoGame/HeroesOfMightAndMagic IV'', blames free will for the destruction of the old world (evidently the event did a real number on his immortal mind).
* In ''VideoGame/{{Infernal}}'', one of the villains is an angel who believes that free will is something of a design flaw, and wants to technologically brainwash humanity while the Creator isn't looking.
* ''VideoGame/{{Lusternia}}'': Both the city of Hallifax and the commune of Glomdoring. Hallifax are CrystalSpiresAndTogas communists, who attempt to convert their enemies with reasoned debate and advanced super-science. Glomdoring is an EnchantedForest and populated by TheFairFolk, who want to seed their corrupted forest through the rest of the known world, and brainwash the remnants of society (or, if that fails, [[AbsoluteXenophobe kill them all]]). Neither tolerates dissent. ([[TheUndead Magnagora]] does not fit here, despite being more overtly evil -- they ''encourage'' dissent, believing it will make the usurpers [[TheSocialDarwinist stronger than their forebears]] when they rise up.)
* Dr. Weil from ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' initially believed in this for reploids, thinking that reploids should be stripped of their free will, so that things like the devastating Maverick Wars could never happen again and reploids would become the obedient tools he believed they should be. This led to him corrupting the Mother Elf into the Dark Elf and using it to brainwash reploids into servitude, which ironically led to the even ''more'' destructive Elf Wars.
* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2'', this is the stated goal of [[spoiler:the Patriots, according to the Colonel/Rose AI]], to the point that they outright tell Raiden he "doesn't deserve" to [[spoiler:think for himself]].
** [[spoiler:Senator Steven Armstrong]] in ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'' has a similar goal. [[spoiler:Until he decides to tell the truth, in which he reveals that his actual plan is to create an America ruled by personal strength and one where everyone can fight for what they believe in.]]
* In ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', [[BigBad Cyrus]] believes that spirit is the cause of all suffering, so he [[TheStoic rejects it himself]] and tries to destroy it in everyone else by capturing the [[OlympusMons origin deities of knowledge, emotion, and willpower]] to [[OlympusMons summon the deities of time and space]] in order [[ApocalypseHow/ClassX4 to destroy the entire freaking universe]] and create a new, emotionless one for him to [[GodhoodSeeker rule as a god]].
* Sheng-Ji Yang, the leader of the [[DirtyCommunists Human Hive]], in ''VideoGame/SidMeiersAlphaCentauri'' strongly believes in achieving this. For the most part, he comes off as a tyrant, but his goals are rooted in legitimate Eastern philosophy (shot with doses of both Communism and [[Creator/FriedrichNietzsche Nietzsche]] that somehow still make sense--horrifying sense, but sense), have a distinct UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans flavor, and are extremely similar to [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence Transcendence]], leading to quite a bit of AlternateCharacterInterpretation.
* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'': This is pretty much {{God|IsEvil}}'s (and by extension the Law alignment's) catchphrase. His idea of a perfect society is a paradise where people can't do wrong... not ''won't'' do wrong... ''can't''.
** Similarly, this is the very basis of the Reason of Shijima in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne''. Its founder, Hikawa, believes that the world should be subsumed into absolute, perfect, and peaceful stillness, where individuality doesn't exist and all are one with each other and with God. The irony is that he was originally a member of the Cult of Gaea, the Chaos-aligned sect for whom free will is the most important thing.
** In ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'', most of the [[HolierThanThou Angels]] are actually ''pissed'' that God is treating the lockdown as humanity's LastSecondChance rather than immediately revoking their free will.
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'', [[spoiler:Zelenin]] becomes an UnwittingPawn capable of brainwashing anyone deemed worthy of living in their "utopic" WorldOfSilence.
** The angels decide to starve free will in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' by separating some children from their cities and excommunicating all forms of rebellious media. This works for a few thousand years until the old cities start burrowing upwards and one of their demons passes out basic literature such as Shakespeare and Martin Luther King, which pisses of the otherwise-ignorant commoners so much that they ''become actual demons out of sheer hate''.
** [[spoiler:Yaldabaoth, the true BigBad]] of ''VideoGame/Persona5'', believes that humans are too weak to guide themselves. Indeed, what gives him power is how the population of Tokyo [[BystanderSyndrome keeps their heads down]] when they witness corruption and injustice, unless it directly affects them, and even then they claim that [[ApatheticCitizens it can't be helped]]. By the endgame, the Shadows of Tokyo's citizens are willfully imprisoning themselves in Mementos to prevent having to take action against the villains that benefited from their apathy.
*** [[spoiler:Takuto Maruki, the final ArcVillain]] of ''Royal'', dives headfirst into this as his SanitySlippage worsens. As far as he's concerned, choice is too difficult a burden for anyone to bear, but it can be lifted by allowing him to make all your decisions for you. This becomes even more apparent if the player fails to defeat him in time, where he admits he wanted Joker to accept his deal of his own free will, and apologizes to Joker for burdening him with a decision.
* In ''VideoGame/SoulNomadAndTheWorldEaters'', this is one aspect of [[spoiler:Drazil]]. Everyone looks the same. Everyone eats the same food. Everyone lives until thirty and then just dies. Children (who all look the same) are raised communally, they're named after their birthplace and a number instead of having real names, and everyone keeps espousing a selfless dogma of "Live for the world, die for the world". Even Gig is creeped out, calling the residents "corpses that haven't stopped moving".
* ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'': [[spoiler:Commander Tartar views chaos and free will to be the same thing, and thus sought to bring order by ensuring that the new "superior" lifeforms that will emerge from its DNA ooze will have no free will of their own. Considering [[EmptyShell what happened to the Octarians that have been "sanitized" by the procedure]]...]]
* In ''VideoGame/StarcraftII: [[VideoGame/StarcraftIIHeartOfTheSwarm Heart of the Swarm]]'', we see a Zerg Brood Mother, Zagara, [[HumansThroughAlienEyes muse a bit on the nature of human individuality and free will]]. She believes that all humans must feel incredibly lonely, being locked away in their own little minds, and thinks that humans would be, on the whole, happier if they were absorbed into the Swarm. Kerrigan, upon hearing this, disagrees heavily. Zagara's looking at it, of course, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality from a Zerg perspective]]: those Zerg that are individually intelligent feel an intense discomfort and loss of purpose when they don't have a HiveMind to rule and guide them, so it makes some sense she would see it that way, rather than finding liberation in individualism like humans do.



* ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'': [[spoiler:Commander Tartar views chaos and free will to be the same thing, and thus sought to bring order by ensuring that the new "superior" lifeforms that will emerge from its DNA ooze will have no free will of their own. Considering [[EmptyShell what happened to the Octarians that have been "sanitized" by the procedure]]...]]
* ''VideoGame/FarCry6'' gives us Anton Castillo. A tin-pot dictator who rules over the fictional South American country of Yara with an iron fist. He gives a speech to his son, Diego, about how he just wants the people of his country to be happy as he describes them as being torn apart by opinions and indecision, and explicitly says that the people are being "strangled by their own freedoms."
* In VideoGame/TombRaiderUnderworld, Lara at one point gets a chance to talk to the Doppelganger without the latter trying to kill her. When asked who or what she is, the Doppelganger replies "I am ''you''... With the ''flaws'' removed". Lara, unimpressed, just asks if free will really is a flaw to be corrected.
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyBraveExvius'': MAYOR spoilers for Season 3: [[spoiler:the villain, originally wishing to destroy the world thinking it was tainted [[ItIsBeyondSaving beyond salvation]], eventually settled on just simply robbing living being of hope and will. They believe is the only surefire way to stop the armed conflicts that have plagued the setting since times immemorial.]]

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* ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'': [[spoiler:Commander Tartar views chaos and free will to be ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'':
** In ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'' this is
the same thing, and thus sought to bring solution of the BigBad Lord Yggdrasill. In order to prevent [[spoiler:[[FantasticRacism discrimination]] of Half-Elves]], everyone will be [[spoiler:turned into angels without thoughts or emotions]].
** Similar to ''Symphonia'', ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' involves a plot to rob free will, as well as tie in some plot elements to the sequel ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria''. [[spoiler:Daemonblight, or Malevolence as it's really called, infects humans when they are overrun
by ensuring negative emotions and turns them into demons. Humans constantly create Malevolence subconsciously, and Malakim are especially sensitive to it that they'll turn into dragons. The BigBad decides the best way to get rid of Daemonblight/Malevolence for good is to resurrect a sealed, nameless God that feeds on Malevolence and can suppress everyone's freewill. The situation looks so dire that the new "superior" lifeforms that will emerge from its DNA ooze will have no free will suppressed humans are DrivenToSuicide because of their own. Considering [[EmptyShell what happened to own wants and needs are deemed as selfish and evil, even simple things like enjoying the Octarians that have been "sanitized" by the procedure]]...taste of food.]]
* ''VideoGame/FarCry6'' gives us Anton Castillo. A tin-pot dictator who rules over the fictional South American country of Yara with an iron fist. He gives a speech to his son, Diego, about how he just wants the people of his country to be happy as he describes them as being torn apart by opinions and indecision, and explicitly says that the people are being "strangled by their own freedoms."
* In VideoGame/TombRaiderUnderworld, ''VideoGame/TombRaiderUnderworld'', Lara at one point gets a chance to talk to the Doppelganger without the latter trying to kill her. When asked who or what she is, the Doppelganger replies "I am ''you''... With the ''flaws'' removed". Lara, unimpressed, just asks if free will really is a flaw to be corrected.
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyBraveExvius'': MAYOR spoilers for Season 3: [[spoiler:the villain, originally wishing to destroy ''VideoGame/TheTuringTest'': TOM argues that the world thinking it was tainted [[ItIsBeyondSaving beyond salvation]], eventually settled on just simply robbing living being of hope and will. They believe is subconscious makes decisions before the conscious mind becomes aware of it and, as such, free will is only surefire way to stop the armed conflicts an illusion. [[spoiler:TOM claims that have plagued mind-controlling Ava is right because, as free will does not exist, she's either a slave to her impulses, or a slave to TOM's.]]
* [[spoiler:Megumi Kitaniji]] from ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou''. [[spoiler:His O-Pins brainwash everyone so that there will be no differences.]] In a strange twist, [[spoiler:[[WellIntentionedExtremist he has a sympathetic reason for trying to do this]], as [[TheManBehindTheMan
the setting since times immemorial.]]
Composer]] has decided to erase Shibuya]] if it doesn't change. Fortunately for everyone involved, [[spoiler:[[PhysicalGod the Composer]] changes his mind at the last minute and Shibuya is spared]].



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* '' VisualNovel/HatofulBoyfriend'': The King of the Holiday Star rules it as a combination of this and an AssimilationPlot. He talks about it as if it's this trope, and when a newcomer arrives and before they inevitably upset him by wanting to leave or disagreeing, it might be.
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* ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' works with this concept via [[spoiler:nigh-omnipotent ship AI Petey]]. On the one hand, he's running around grabbing up villain groups and conscripting them into positions trying to help out innocents and stop bigger villains (kinda reminiscent of ''Literature/TheStainlessSteelRat''). On the other hand, he points out that he wants to preserve free will, and in service to that ideal is refusing to take certain steps that would be more efficient than his current methods. He even talks this over with the strip's resident moralist, Theo Fobius.
* The Legion from ''Webcomic/MSFHigh'' play with this trope. The Legion war ended specifically because the Legion realised they disagreed with this concept, but seemed to be using it.
* In ''Webcomic/PlanescapeSurvivalGuide'', the original conflict of the creator gods stems from the argument of allowing free will into the "perfect", ordered Multiverse.



* The Legion from ''Webcomic/MSFHigh'' play with this trope. The Legion war ended specifically because the Legion realised they disagreed with this concept, but seemed to be using it.
* In ''Webcomic/PlanescapeSurvivalGuide'', the original conflict of the creator gods stems from the argument of allowing free will into the "perfect", ordered Multiverse.
* ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary'' works with this concept via [[spoiler:nigh-omnipotent ship AI Petey]]. On the one hand, he's running around grabbing up villain groups and conscripting them into positions trying to help out innocents and stop bigger villains (kinda reminiscent of ''Literature/TheStainlessSteelRat''). On the other hand, he points out that he wants to preserve free will, and in service to that ideal is refusing to take certain steps that would be more efficient than his current methods. He even talks this over with the strip's resident moralist, Theo Fobius.



* ''WesternAnimation/MegaManFullyCharged'': Hypno Woman was originally a guidance counselor at the local school until she became overwhelmed by trying to solve everyone's problems. Then she decide the only viable solution was [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul hypnotizing everyone to being absolutely happy all the time]] and stop them from thinking ever again.
* In ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'', [[HiveMind Unity]] defends her enslavement of a planet by saying that it was torn apart by war and she's made productive citizens out of everyone. After getting a glimpse of what the planet is like without her influence Summer, who had been expecting free will to involve choices like "picking a phone plan" rather than the re-ignition of a brutal race war based on nipple shape, concludes that Unity is great and her grandfather is a terrible influence on her (making her lose control of people or use them to fulfill his ridiculous sexual fantasies).



* In ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'', [[HiveMind Unity]] defends her enslavement of a planet by saying that it was torn apart by war and she's made productive citizens out of everyone. After getting a glimpse of what the planet is like without her influence Summer, who had been expecting free will to involve choices like "picking a phone plan" rather than the re-ignition of a brutal race war based on nipple shape, concludes that Unity is great and her grandfather is a terrible influence on her (making her lose control of people or use them to fulfill his ridiculous sexual fantasies).
* ''WesternAnimation/MegaManFullyCharged'': Hypno Woman was originally a guidance counselor at the local school until she became overwhelmed by trying to solve everyone's problems. Then she decide the only viable solution was [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul hypnotizing everyone to being absolutely happy all the time]] and stop them from thinking ever again.



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* Ultimately the plan of [[spoiler:the British Library]] in ''Anime/RODTheTV''. An interesting wrinkle is that the people instigating the plan ''also'' planned on being rewritten along with everyone else.

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* Ultimately In ''Anime/AndroidKikaiderTheAnimation'', Golden Bat considers the Gemini circuit, which gives Jiro a conscience and the ability to refuse orders, a tragedy for Jiro. The circuit compels Jiro to fight against his robotic kindred while his status as a robot alienates him from humanity, leaving him an outcast.
* In ''Manga/{{Appleseed}}'', mankind has grown tired of constant warfare and created [[ArtificialHuman biodroids]] to act as mediators, together with an [[DeusEstMachina AI]] to act as an overseer. The main conflict revolves around whether humanity is unfairly being suppressed in the not-quite-utopia, [[RousseauWasRight salvageable]] through the aid of the biodroids or are they the [[RobotRebellion only stain left]] in an otherwise perfect society.
* This is basically what Schneizel el Britannia of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' believes, and intends to have any revolting nation [[spoiler:nuked by [[WeaponOfMassDestruction FLEIJA]] from the nigh-impenetrable floating fortress Damocles]].
** Also there was Charles zi Britannia's
plan of [[spoiler:the British Library]] in ''Anime/RODTheTV''. An interesting wrinkle is that [[spoiler:destroying the people instigating the plan ''also'' planned on being rewritten along with everyone else."gods" to merge every person, [[AssimilationPlot living and dead, into one being]]. This would effectively remove any free will and make sure nothing ever advanced]].



* Gihren Zabi of the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' gives a little speech about this, implying DemocracyIsBad. He then goes onto talk about how [[SocialDarwinist the weak]] and [[KillThePoor poor]] must be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName culled]].
* This is the singular objective of Gilbert Durandal, one of the two {{Big Bad}}s of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''. His [[TitleDrop Destiny]] Plan involves using genetic determinism to decide the roles of each and every person living in the Earthsphere in order to prevent free will from causing people's differing ideas from causing any more wars. It's also a source of contention over the plot by many in the community, for [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation various reasons]].
** It's interesting to note that Durandal never claims to be making a Utopia. Quite the opposite; He knows full well that he's basically ushering in a totalitarian state, and potentially a {{Dystopia}}, but he believes such measures are the only way to [[InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves keep mankind from destroying itself]].
* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' revealed that this is the ultimate plan of series BigBad [[spoiler:Uchiha Madara. The one who executed this plan is not the real Madara but the real Madara had the same plan before he died.]]
** [[spoiler: The ''true'' big bad, Kaguya Otsutsuki, shares the same goal, but her variation of the goal involves her turning every shinobi on the planet into obedient White Zetsu soldiers.]]

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* Gihren Zabi ''Super Android 13'', the Funimation dub of the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' 7th ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' movie does this. When Trunks gives a little speech about this, implying DemocracyIsBad. He then goes onto talk about how [[SocialDarwinist the weak]] and [[KillThePoor poor]] must be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName culled]].
* This is the singular objective of Gilbert Durandal, one of the two {{Big Bad}}s of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''. His [[TitleDrop Destiny]] Plan involves using genetic determinism
villain, an android who wants to decide the roles of each and every person living in the Earthsphere in order to prevent kill Goku simply because he was programmed to, a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Reason You Suck Speech]] for having no free will from causing people's differing ideas from causing any more wars. It's also a source of contention over the plot by many in the community, for [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation various reasons]].
** It's interesting to note that Durandal never claims to be making a Utopia. Quite the opposite; He knows full well that he's basically ushering in a totalitarian state,
and potentially therefore pursuing a {{Dystopia}}, but he believes such measures are the only way to [[InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves keep mankind from destroying itself]].
* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' revealed that this is the ultimate plan of series BigBad [[spoiler:Uchiha Madara. The one who executed this plan is not the real Madara but the real Madara had the same plan before he died.]]
** [[spoiler: The ''true'' big bad, Kaguya Otsutsuki, shares the same
meaningless goal, but her variation said villain takes offense and counters that at least ''he's'' being evil because he has no other choice while humans and saiyans do evil things because they ''want'' to; he even argues that creatures with free will do worse things than he'd ''ever'' be capable of the goal involves her turning every shinobi on the planet into obedient White Zetsu soldiers.]]doing.



* In ''Manga/{{Appleseed}}'', mankind has grown tired of constant warfare and created [[ArtificialHuman biodroids]] to act as mediators, together with an [[DeusEstMachina AI]] to act as an overseer. The main conflict revolves around whether humanity is unfairly being suppressed in the not-quite-utopia, [[RousseauWasRight salvageable]] through the aid of the biodroids or are they the [[RobotRebellion only stain left]] in an otherwise perfect society.

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* In ''Manga/{{Appleseed}}'', ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'':
** Gihren Zabi of the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' gives a little speech about this, implying DemocracyIsBad. He then goes onto talk about how [[SocialDarwinist the weak]] and [[KillThePoor poor]] must be [[ANaziByAnyOtherName culled]].
** This is the singular objective of Gilbert Durandal, one of the two {{Big Bad}}s of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny''. His [[TitleDrop Destiny]] Plan involves using genetic determinism to decide the roles of each and every person living in the Earthsphere in order to prevent free will from causing people's differing ideas from causing any more wars. It's also a source of contention over the plot by many in the community, for [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation various reasons]].
8** It's interesting to note that Durandal never claims to be making a Utopia. Quite the opposite; He knows full well that he's basically ushering in a totalitarian state, and potentially a {{Dystopia}}, but he believes such measures are the only way to [[InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves keep
mankind has grown tired from destroying itself]].
* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' revealed that this is the ultimate plan
of constant warfare and created [[ArtificialHuman biodroids]] to act as mediators, together with an [[DeusEstMachina AI]] to act as an overseer. series BigBad [[spoiler:Uchiha Madara. The main conflict revolves around whether humanity one who executed this plan is unfairly not the real Madara but the real Madara had the same plan before he died]].
** [[spoiler:The ''true'' big bad, Kaguya Otsutsuki,]] shares the same goal, but their variation of the goal involves [[spoiler:turning every shinobi on the planet into obedient White Zetsu soldiers]].
* Ultimately the plan of [[spoiler:the British Library]] in ''Anime/RODTheTV''. An interesting wrinkle is that the people instigating the plan ''also'' planned on
being suppressed rewritten along with everyone else.
* This is the driving force behind [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Faceas/Faysus Clay]]
in the not-quite-utopia, [[RousseauWasRight salvageable]] ''Manga/{{Strider}}'' manga: a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] with no regards for others and a preference for machines over human companions, he compares [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humanity's potential for doing evil]] to a computer glitch left behind by a careless God, and plans to "fix" this "factory error" by taking over humanity's free will through [[MindControlDevice a mind-control weapon]], creating an [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans utopian world]] with equality and no conflicts under his guidance.
* [[spoiler:The Anti-Spirals]] from ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' [[spoiler:want to wipe out Spiral Energy from
the aid of world and destroy the biodroids or are free will, motivation, and emotions from humankind]]. However, [[WellIntentionedExtremist they have a good reason for doing it]]: [[spoiler:overuse of Spiral Energy will result in Spiral Nemesis, which will destroy the [[RobotRebellion only stain left]] in an otherwise perfect society.universe. It's just that they see terrorism, brainwashing, and scare tactics as the way to prevent it from happening]]. Their methods are underhanded and soul crushing because the opposition ''is powered by determination and bravery''. Meeting them head on with violence is like fighting a fire with gasoline.



* This is basically what Schneizel el Britannia of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' believes, and intends to have any revolting nation [[spoiler:nuked by [[WeaponOfMassDestruction FLEIJA]] from the nigh-impenetrable floating fortress Damocles]].
** Also there was Charles zi Britannia's plan of [[spoiler:destroying the "gods" to merge every person, [[AssimilationPlot living and dead, into one being]]. This would effectively remove any free will and make sure nothing ever advanced.]]
* [[spoiler:The Anti-Spirals]] from ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' [[spoiler:want to wipe out Spiral Energy from the world and destroy the free will, motivation, and emotions from humankind]]. However, [[WellIntentionedExtremist they have a good reason for doing it]]: [[spoiler:overuse of Spiral Energy will result in Spiral Nemesis, which will destroy the universe. It's just that they see terrorism, brainwashing, and scare tactics as the way to prevent it from happening]]. Their methods are underhanded and soul crushing because the opposition ''is powered by determination and bravery''. Meeting them head on with violence is like fighting a fire with gasoline.
* ''Super Android 13'', the Funimation dub of the 7th ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' movie does this. When Trunks gives the villain, an android who wants to kill Goku simply because he was programmed to, a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Reason You Suck Speech]] for having no free will and therefore pursuing a meaningless goal, said villain takes offense and counters that at least ''he's'' being evil because he has no other choice while humans and saiyans do evil things because they ''want'' to; he even argues that creatures with free will do worse things than he'd ''ever'' be capable of doing.
* This is the driving force behind [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Faceas/Faysus Clay]] in the ''Manga/{{Strider}}'' manga: a [[TheSociopath sociopath]] with no regards for others and a preference for machines over human companions, he compares [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humanity's potential for doing evil]] to a computer glitch left behind by a careless God, and plans to "fix" this "factory error" by taking over humanity's free will through [[MindControlDevice a mind-control weapon]], creating an [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans utopian world]] with equality and no conflicts under his guidance.



* In ''Anime/AndroidKikaiderTheAnimation'', Golden Bat considers the Gemini circuit, which gives Jiro a conscience and the ability to refuse orders, a tragedy for Jiro. The circuit compels Jiro to fight against his robotic kindred while his status as a robot alienates him from humanity, leaving him an outcast.



* ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} once went up against an wannabe alien messiah of the LotusEaterMachine mold.



* The Brain Drain in ''ComicBook/FinalCrisisAftermath: Dance'' promises to unite all of mankind and make all our lives easier by invading our minds for its sinister purposes.



* ''ComicBook/GreenLantern'': The Guardians of Oa came around to this line of thought in the aftermath of the ComicBook/SinestroCorpsWar, the ComicBook/BlackestNight, and the ComicBook/BrightestDay. At first they believed chaos was caused by emotion, so they created an army of robotic Manhunters that lacked it. But without emotion the Manhunters had no qualms about following orders to murder a space sector's population. Then they believed chaos was caused by fear, so they created the Green Lantern Corps to fight it. But then they saw that fear wasn't the only source of chaos -- love, rage, greed, compassion, hope, and even the Green Lanterns' willpower could also add chaos. So the Guardians decided that emotion and '''free will''' were the source of chaos and created a Third Army that would replace the Lanterns and eradicate free will from the universe. It didn't work.



* ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} once went up against an wannabe alien messiah of the LotusEaterMachine mold.
* A mild version appears in the ''ComicBook/SquadronSupreme'' limited series. As part of their efforts to eliminate crime and war, the Squadron invents a behavior-modification machine and uses it (on a voluntary basis) on convicted criminals.
* The Brain Drain in ''ComicBook/FinalCrisisAftermath: Dance'' promises to unite all of mankind and make all our lives easier by invading our minds for its sinister purposes.
* [[ComicBook/GreenLantern The Guardians of Oa]] came around to this line of thought in the aftermath of the ComicBook/SinestroCorpsWar, the ComicBook/BlackestNight, and the ComicBook/BrightestDay. At first they believed chaos was caused by emotion, so they created an army of robotic Manhunters that lacked it. But without emotion the Manhunters had no qualms about following orders to murder a space sector's population. Then they believed chaos was caused by fear, so they created the Green Lantern Corps to fight it. But then they saw that fear wasn't the only source of chaos -- love, rage, greed, compassion, hope, and even the Green Lanterns' willpower could also add chaos. So the Guardians decided that emotion and '''free will''' were the source of chaos and created a Third Army that would replace the Lanterns and eradicate free will from the universe. It didn't work.
* ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'': Megatron holds these views. His endgame, after killing every Autobot, would be to rebuild Cybertron as the perfect utopia, with himself in charge, obviously. When asked by Optimus Prime about things like freedom, free will and personality responsibility, Megatron's response is simple: "They won't be missed." Which is DramaticIrony, because these were all things Megatron ''started'' the entire war for. MotiveDecay at its finest.
* In ''ComicBook/SupermanRedSon'', Superman believes this school of thought, having been raised by the Soviet government during the Cold War. Anyone who willingly disobeys Superman or Soviet Russia become a mind-controlled slave and work hard labor for the rest of their lives. The whole way through, however, Superman is genuinely convinced he is doing the ultimate good for the world and cannot understand why ComicBook/LexLuthor would so adamantly refuse to submit. Unlike many of the examples on this list, Soviet Superman cares for everyone on Earth from the bottom of his heart (even Luthor) and cannot bear to see any physical harm come to them, which is why he goes to such extremes to prevent that.



* ''ComicBook/ScoobyApocalypse'': The Four, Velma's superiors at the Complex [[spoiler: (who are also her brothers)]], came to the conclusion that free will was the root cause of humanity's problems. That's why they altered Project Elysium, Velma's plan to use nanites to remove people's negative impulses, to instead turn people into obedient sheep. [[GoneHorriblyWrong Of course, this instead made the nanites go haywire and turn people into monsters.]]

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* ''ComicBook/ScoobyApocalypse'': The Four, Velma's superiors at the Complex [[spoiler: (who [[spoiler:(who are also her brothers)]], came to the conclusion that free will was the root cause of humanity's problems. That's why they altered Project Elysium, Velma's plan to use nanites to remove people's negative impulses, to instead turn people into obedient sheep. [[GoneHorriblyWrong Of course, this instead made the nanites go haywire and turn people into monsters.]]monsters]].



* A mild version appears in the ''ComicBook/SquadronSupreme'' limited series. As part of their efforts to eliminate crime and war, the Squadron invents a behavior-modification machine and uses it (on a voluntary basis) on convicted criminals.
* In ''ComicBook/SupermanRedSon'', Superman believes this school of thought, having been raised by the Soviet government during the Cold War. Anyone who willingly disobeys Superman or Soviet Russia become a mind-controlled slave and work hard labor for the rest of their lives. The whole way through, however, Superman is genuinely convinced he is doing the ultimate good for the world and cannot understand why ComicBook/LexLuthor would so adamantly refuse to submit. Unlike many of the examples on this list, Soviet Superman cares for everyone on Earth from the bottom of his heart (even Luthor) and cannot bear to see any physical harm come to them, which is why he goes to such extremes to prevent that.
* ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'': Megatron holds these views. His endgame, after killing every Autobot, would be to rebuild Cybertron as the perfect utopia, with himself in charge, obviously. When asked by Optimus Prime about things like freedom, free will and personality responsibility, Megatron's response is simple: "They won't be missed." Which is DramaticIrony, because these were all things Megatron ''started'' the entire war for. MotiveDecay at its finest.



* ''FanFic/AGrowingAffection'' has a minor example, the BigBad Gouki feels ninjas should give up their free will as a trade-off for their vast powers.
* ''FanFic/TheImmortalGame'': [[BigBad Titan]] eventually comes to believe that the main "problem" with ponies, and the main cause of their rebellion against him and his perfect order, is their free will. As such, he prepares a spell to strip the whole species of it, turning the FinalBattle into a RaceAgainstTheClock to defeat him before the spell is ready.
* This is the very premise of ''FanFic/OneLessLonelyGurl''. In this fanfic, the VillainProtagonist C'ren motive is [[spoiler: to transform the world into a SugarBowl free of rock music, goth culture, or anything "alternative". This then obviously leads to said world becoming a CrapsaccharineWorld]].
* ''FanFic/TheConversionBureau'': Pony free will is fine. Humankind is violent and selfish, so removing our free will is acceptable.

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* ''FanFic/AGrowingAffection'' ''Fanfic/AGrowingAffection'' has a minor example, the BigBad Gouki feels ninjas should give up their free will as a trade-off for their vast powers.
* ''FanFic/TheImmortalGame'': ''Fanfic/TheImmortalGame'': [[BigBad Titan]] eventually comes to believe that the main "problem" with ponies, and the main cause of their rebellion against him and his perfect order, is their free will. As such, he prepares a spell to strip the whole species of it, turning the FinalBattle into a RaceAgainstTheClock to defeat him before the spell is ready.
* This is the very premise of ''FanFic/OneLessLonelyGurl''. ''Fanfic/OneLessLonelyGurl''. In this fanfic, the VillainProtagonist C'ren motive is [[spoiler: to [[spoiler:to transform the world into a SugarBowl free of rock music, goth culture, or anything "alternative". This then obviously leads to said world becoming a CrapsaccharineWorld]].
* ''FanFic/TheConversionBureau'': ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureau'': Pony free will is fine. Humankind is violent and selfish, so removing our free will is acceptable.



* ''FanFic/LinesAndWebs'': Celestia believes that total free will is the root cause of violence, and [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans in order to create a peaceful harmonious world]] ponies need to have their negative emotions magically culled.

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* ''FanFic/LinesAndWebs'': ''Fanfic/LinesAndWebs'': Celestia believes that total free will is the root cause of violence, and [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans in order to create a peaceful harmonious world]] ponies need to have their negative emotions magically culled.



* Discussed in ''Fanfic/AngelOfTheBat''. [[spoiler: According to Jesus (or maybe just a hallucination of him Cassandra saw)]], evil exists because people have the ability to choose to commit evil acts. While that does happen, he also claims that it is mankind's capacity and preference of doing good that makes him so proud.

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* Discussed in ''Fanfic/AngelOfTheBat''. [[spoiler: According [[spoiler:According to Jesus (or maybe just a hallucination of him Cassandra saw)]], evil exists because people have the ability to choose to commit evil acts. While that does happen, he also claims that it is mankind's capacity and preference of doing good that makes him so proud.



* The entire premise of ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau'' revolves around this, with a mysterious organization of supernatural beings manipulating human history in minor ways (making someone miss a bus, or lose their keys, ect.) ForTheGreaterGood. Unlike most example, however, they're presented as a [[AntiVillain genuinely benevolent group]], albeit staffed by a few [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]]. According to one agent, they ''did'' stop interfering in history, twice. The first time resulted in the Dark Ages, the second in two World Wars, the Holocaust, and the Cuban Missile Crisis. That said, [[spoiler: at the end of the film, [[{{God}} The Chairman]] decides to let the main characters make their own choices rather than following The Plan]].

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* The entire premise of ''Film/TheAdjustmentBureau'' revolves around this, with a mysterious organization of supernatural beings manipulating human history in minor ways (making someone miss a bus, or lose their keys, ect.) ForTheGreaterGood. Unlike most example, however, they're presented as a [[AntiVillain genuinely benevolent group]], albeit staffed by a few [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]]. According to one agent, they ''did'' stop interfering in history, twice. The first time resulted in the Dark Ages, the second in two World Wars, the Holocaust, and the Cuban Missile Crisis. That said, [[spoiler: at [[spoiler:at the end of the film, [[{{God}} The Chairman]] decides to let the main characters make their own choices rather than following The Plan]].Plan]].
* This seems to be part of Loki's plan in ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', though it's more or less rhetoric that he uses to justify his own selfish ambitions.
* The primary objective of [[spoiler:HYDRA]] in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' is to force the world to ''reject'' free will by worrying them into giving it up for safety. [[spoiler:To achieve this objective, they corrupted SHIELD from within and used its resources to shape the world into the era of paranoia it is today.]]
* In the {{Mockumentary}}, ''[[Film/CSATheConfederateStatesOfAmerica The C.S.A.]]'', its stated that runaway slaves suffer from the mental malady of ''drapetomania'', the "freedom illness", in which the afflicted believe that they don't want to be slaves. The Cartwright Institute for the Study of Freedom Illness promises its pupils to be qualified in a few months to treat ''drapetomania'', "rascality," and other "Negro peculiarities". The medicine contrari is marketed to slave owners to as a way to treat ''drapetomania'', though [[MayContainEvil it may actually just drug the victims]] into [[HappinessInSlavery mindless compliance]]. The final [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer montage at the end of the film]] shows that Dr. Cartwright was an actual person who did cook up ''drapetomania'' as another reason to justify slavery.



* The BigBad in ''Film/TheFaculty'' gives a speech during the climax telling Casey that he could live in a world in which he's no longer bullied, there are no more [[PopularityFoodChain cliques]], and he and all of his classmates get along with each other in perfect harmony... if he surrenders and lets the PuppeteerParasite take him.
* ''Film/Fahrenheit4512018'': Beatty tells Montag people are just upset by the ideas that most books contain, especially philosophical ones, since they give conflicting opinions. His solution? One opinion. Better yet, none. Ironically, he uses the debate on free will as an example of one with such upsetting opinions.



%%* If not played straight, then heavily [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic alluded to]] in ''Franchise/TheMatrix'' series.

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%%* If not played straight, then heavily [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic alluded to]] * ''Film/TheInvasion'': This is {{discussed}} in the film, and actually implied to be true. After the aliens take over, they don't actually do anything bad (aside from the control itself, or lessened emotions), but created world peace and universal healthcare. The cure restores things to normal (i.e. all that goes away), and the film leaves it open whether this is really good.
*
''Franchise/TheMatrix'' series.trilogy is either a subversion or inversion. The Architect, when he designed the Matrix following the Machine victory in the RobotWar, did everything in his power to create a [[{{Utopia}} perfect fantasy world]] where every human would be happy, but the program failed because people didn't accept it. So did a second version which brought [[{{Dystopia}} endless suffering]] instead. The Oracle realized that humans were hard-wired to desire choice instead of either happiness or hardship, which simply couldn't be eradicated from the program to work.



* This seems to be part of Loki's plan in ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', though it's more or less rhetoric that he uses to justify his own selfish ambitions.
* The primary objective of [[spoiler:HYDRA]] in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' is to force the world to ''reject'' free will by worrying them into giving it up for safety. [[spoiler:To achieve this objective, they corrupted SHIELD from within and used its resources to shape the world into the era of paranoia it is today.]]



* ''Film/TheInvasion'': This is {{discussed}} in the film, and actually implied to be true. After the aliens take over, they don't actually do anything bad (aside from the control itself, or lessened emotions), but created world peace and universal healthcare. The cure restores things to normal (i.e. all that goes away), and the film leaves it open whether this is really good.
* In the {{Mockumentary}}, ''[[Film/CSATheConfederateStatesOfAmerica The C.S.A.]]'', its stated that runaway slaves suffer from the mental malady of ''drapetomania'', the "freedom illness", in which the afflicted believe that they don't want to be slaves. The Cartwright Institute for the Study of Freedom Illness promises its pupils to be qualified in a few months to treat ''drapetomania'', "rascality," and other "Negro peculiarities". The medicine contrari is marketed to slave owners to as a way to treat ''drapetomania'', though [[MayContainEvil it may actually just drug the victims]] into [[HappinessInSlavery mindless compliance.]] The final [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer montage at the end of the film]] shows that Dr. Cartwright was an actual person who did cook up ''drapetomania'' as another reason to justify slavery.
* ''Film/Fahrenheit4512018'': Beatty tells Montag people are just upset by the ideas that most books contain, especially philosophical ones, since they give conflicting opinions. His solution? One opinion. Better yet, none. Ironically, he uses the debate on free will as an example of one with such upsetting opinions.
* ''Franchise/TheMatrix'' trilogy is either a subversion or inversion. The Architect, when he designed the Matrix following the Machine victory in the RobotWar, did everything in his power to create a [[{{Utopia}} perfect fantasy world]] where every human would be happy, but the program failed because people didn't accept it. So did a second version which brought [[{{Dystopia}} endless suffering]] instead. The Oracle realized that humans were hard-wired to desire choice instead of either happiness or hardship, which simply couldn't be eradicated from the program to work.
* The BigBad in ''Film/TheFaculty'' gives a speech during the climax telling Casey that he could live in a world in which he's no longer bullied, there are no more [[PopularityFoodChain cliques]], and he and all of his classmates get along with each other in perfect harmony... if he surrenders and lets the PuppeteerParasite take him.



* While the authorities aren't seeking to create an entire world based on this trope, when prison is unable to reform Alex from ''Literature/AClockworkOrange'', he is subjected to conditioning that takes away his ability to commit violent or sexual acts, eventually [[DrivenToSuicide driving him to a suicide attempt]].
* [[spoiler:Oberon]] from Creator/JohnCWright's ''Literature/WarOfTheDreaming'' wants to relieve Earth of its evils, chaos, and agonies by applying this trope. Predictably, the heroes tell him to [[ScrewYouElves get stuffed]].
* ''Literature/BraveNewWorld''. In an inversion from the ''Film/DemolitionMan'' example, the populace is kept mindless, carefree and obedient by making sex and drugs ''[[BreadAndCircuses readily available]]''. Not only that, but they're also consequence-free. They've engineered a drug whose only negative side effect is a shortened lifespan, and women are taught from a ''very'' young age to regularly use contraceptives (with others engineered to be sterile). The population is also kept {{brainwashed}} via MemeticMutation and sleep learning.
* ''Literature/EndersShadow'': [[BigBad Achilles]] believes in this, when we get him as a viewpoint character in Shadow of The Hegemon. As he's engineering the domination of the world, he muses on how very difficult free will makes it to get anything done. He even cites such figures as Napolean and Hitler who expected their subordinates to "offer up their heads" as a way of blind obedience. Irony of ironies that he, like former protagonist Ender, actually admires the insect-like Formics, but for the reason that they were smart enough to stamp out free will, with each soldier merely being an extension of their queen. Achilles firmly believes that, for humanity to reach it's intended greatness, it will be necessary for humans to adopt a similar societal approach... with him in charge of course.
%% * ''Literature/TheGoodnessGene''.



* In ''Literature/{{We}}'', the name of the disease is imagination. The location of it in the brain has been discovered, and an operation has been devised to cure it.
* Creator/AynRand's ''Literature/{{Anthem}}''. Very similar to the above ''We'', where numbers and letters have replaced names, and there is no sense of self. The protagonists have never even been taught ''singular pronouns''; it takes two thirds of the book for them to figure it out, to the point that it's an incredible relief when the narrator finally calls himself "I" and his love interest "she" instead of "we" and "they".

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* In ''Literature/{{We}}'', the name ''Literature/AcrossTheUniverseBethRevis'', Eldest declares individual thought to be one of the disease is imagination. The location three causes of it in the brain has been discovered, discord, and an operation has been devised uses GovernmentDrugEnforcement to cure it.
limit it as much as possible.
* Creator/AynRand's ''Literature/{{Anthem}}''. Very similar to the above ''We'', where numbers and letters have replaced names, and there is no sense of self. The protagonists have never even been taught ''singular pronouns''; it takes two thirds of the book for them to figure it out, to the point that it's an incredible relief when the narrator finally calls himself "I" and his love interest "she" instead of "we" and "they".



* In Creator/TadWilliams ''Literature/BobbyDollar'' series this is what ''Heaven'' is like. The Saved are all eternally happy but only because their memories and personalities have been rendered null and void. While in Hell Bobby notices that for all the unimaginable suffering there it's still far more "alive" than Heaven.
* ''Literature/BraveNewWorld''. In an inversion from the ''Film/DemolitionMan'' example, the populace is kept mindless, carefree and obedient by making sex and drugs ''[[BreadAndCircuses readily available]]''. Not only that, but they're also consequence-free. They've engineered a drug whose only negative side effect is a shortened lifespan, and women are taught from a ''very'' young age to regularly use contraceptives (with others engineered to be sterile). The population is also kept {{brainwashed}} via MemeticMutation and sleep learning.
* The idea is outlined in a story-within-a-story in ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'' called the Grand Inquisitor, where Christ comes back and is arrested by the Holy Inquisition for giving humanity free will, consequently allowing misery from the ability to sin. The Grand Inquisitor of the title accusing him wants to bring everyone into the church, and to indoctrinate them so fully that sin will no longer be possible, and he considers Christ an opponent as a bringer of freedom. He claims that Christ should have given in to the temptations of Satan in the wilderness, and used his power to make the world paradise again. [[spoiler:Christ never says a word, but kisses him on the lips, at which the Grand Inquisitor recoils, opens the cell door and tells Christ to leave and never return. This was part of the NietzscheWannabe Ivan's BreakingSpeech to Alyosha, his monk brother.]]



* While the authorities aren't seeking to create an entire world based on this trope, when prison is unable to reform Alex from ''Literature/AClockworkOrange'', he is subjected to conditioning that takes away his ability to commit violent or sexual acts, eventually [[DrivenToSuicide driving him to a suicide attempt]].
* In ''Literature/DeliriumSeries'', all teenagers are to be evaluated, mentally and physically, by a team of civil servants who will determine which career they are suited for and what sort of person they should marry (they choose from 4).
* ''Literature/{{Divergent}}'':
** In this {{dystopia}}, teens are forced to take an aptitude test that matches them with a "faction": Abnegation, Amity, Candor, Dauntless, or Erudite. The faction they choose, however, is where they end up for the rest of their lives. If they choose no faction, then they become factionless and are forced to be homeless. Also, if their test results do not match with any particular faction, then they are seen as Divergent, meaning they don’t necessarily conform to the thought patterns of their respective factions and therefore can't be trusted.
** There are shades of this in Abnegation. Basically, any part of free will that serves the self is prohibited.
** This is also in [[spoiler:Amity, due to "happiness serum" being put in bread and given to everyone without them noticing. Anyone who acts negatively will be taken to a room and given some directly]].
* This is the dark side of several "good" factions in ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'', and the main point of disagreement between them and the neutral factions. (It's been demonstrated that this won't actually work--when the evil goddess Takhisis was banished from the world, the Church of Paladine effectively ''became'' evil by persecuting the neutral factions.)
* ''Literature/EndersShadow'': [[BigBad Achilles]] believes in this, when we get him as a viewpoint character in Shadow of The Hegemon. As he's engineering the domination of the world, he muses on how very difficult free will makes it to get anything done. He even cites such figures as Napolean and Hitler who expected their subordinates to "offer up their heads" as a way of blind obedience. Irony of ironies that he, like former protagonist Ender, actually admires the insect-like Formics, but for the reason that they were smart enough to stamp out free will, with each soldier merely being an extension of their queen. Achilles firmly believes that, for humanity to reach it's intended greatness, it will be necessary for humans to adopt a similar societal approach... with him in charge of course.
* In ''[[Literature/{{Daemon}} Freedom]]'', the Major tells [[spoiler:a captured Peter Sebeck]] that people need to be told what to do and that modern civilisation needs management by professionals.



* The BigBad's goal in ''Literature/SnowCrash''. What makes this especially odd is that free will isn't the natural state of humankind, but an [[spoiler:ancient computer program written in the subconscious universal protolanguage of human thought]], by what was effectively a [[HiveQueen Hive King]] for the human race, inspiring the Tower of Babel myth.
* The idea is outlined in a story-within-a-story in ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'' called the Grand Inquisitor, where Christ comes back and is arrested by the Holy Inquisition for giving humanity free will, consequently allowing misery from the ability to sin. The Grand Inquisitor of the title accusing him wants to bring everyone into the church, and to indoctrinate them so fully that sin will no longer be possible, and he considers Christ an opponent as a bringer of freedom. He claims that Christ should have given in to the temptations of Satan in the wilderness, and used his power to make the world paradise again. [[spoiler: Christ never says a word, but kisses him on the lips, at which the Grand Inquisitor recoils, opens the cell door and tells Christ to leave and never return. This was part of the NietzscheWannabe Ivan's BreakingSpeech to Alyosha, his monk brother.]]

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%% * The BigBad's ''Literature/TheGoodnessGene''.
* In Chris Barfield's novel ''Hidden Histories'', this is the ultimate
goal of Christianity; the breakup of Christianity into so many different sects is just an argument over method, not over the ultimate goal.
* In the ''Literature/LeftBehind'' book ''Kingdom Come'': [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]] outlines
in ''Literature/SnowCrash''. What makes this especially odd is their ''If It's True'' manifesto that free will isn't the natural state of humankind, but an [[spoiler:ancient computer program written in the subconscious universal protolanguage of human thought]], by what was effectively a [[HiveQueen Hive King]] for the human race, inspiring the Tower of Babel myth.
* The idea is outlined in a story-within-a-story in ''Literature/TheBrothersKaramazov'' called the Grand Inquisitor, where Christ comes back and is arrested by the Holy Inquisition for giving humanity free will, consequently
God [[DeathsHourglass not allowing misery from "naturals" to live past 100 years of age]] as unbelievers, then He is against mankind having the ability right to sin. The Grand Inquisitor of the title accusing him wants to bring everyone into the church, choose for themselves and to indoctrinate them so fully that sin will no longer be possible, and he considers Christ an opponent as a bringer of freedom. He claims that Christ should have given in to the temptations of Satan in the wilderness, and used his power to make the world paradise again. [[spoiler: Christ never says a word, but kisses him on the lips, at which the Grand Inquisitor recoils, opens the cell door and tells Christ to leave and never return. thus [[GodIsEvil is considered "evil"]]. This was is part of their clarion call to have their teachings be passed down to the NietzscheWannabe Ivan's BreakingSpeech next generation of its converts so that the generation that gets to Alyosha, his monk brother.]][[FinalBattle confront God and Jesus Christ at the end of the Millennium]] [[KillTheGod will be "assured victory"]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released]]. [[CurbStompBattle Unfortunately for the Other Light,]] [[YouCantFightFate it didn't turn out as they hoped.]]
* A major theme of ''Literature/TheLicaniusTrilogy''. The universe is set on a pre-destined track, which causes an ideological rift among the characters. One side believes people should be free at any price, while the other believes that a lack of freedom doesn't mean a lack of meaning — and that achieving this freedom will accidentally destroy the world.



* In ''[[Literature/{{Daemon}} Freedom]]'', the Major tells [[spoiler: a captured Peter Sebeck]] that people need to be told what to do and that modern civilisation needs management by professionals.
* In the ''Literature/LeftBehind'' book ''Kingdom Come'': [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]] outlines in their ''If It's True'' manifesto that by God [[DeathsHourglass not allowing "naturals" to live past 100 years of age]] as unbelievers, then He is against mankind having the right to choose for themselves and thus [[GodIsEvil is considered "evil"]]. This is part of their clarion call to have their teachings be passed down to the next generation of its converts so that the generation that gets to [[FinalBattle confront God and Jesus Christ at the end of the Millennium]] [[KillTheGod will be "assured victory"]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released]]. [[CurbStompBattle Unfortunately for the Other Light,]] [[YouCantFightFate it didn't turn out as they hoped.]]
* A major theme of ''Literature/TheLicaniusTrilogy''. The universe is set on a pre-destined track, which causes an ideological rift among the characters. One side believes people should be free at any price, while the other believes that a lack of freedom doesn't mean a lack of meaning — and that achieving this freedom will accidentally destroy the world.
* In ''Literature/AcrossTheUniverseBethRevis'', Eldest declares individual thought to be one of the three causes of discord, and uses GovernmentDrugEnforcement to limit it as much as possible.
* In Chris Barfield's novel ''Hidden Histories'', this is the ultimate goal of Christianity; the breakup of Christianity into so many different sects is just an argument over method, not over the ultimate goal.
* This is the dark side of several "good" factions in ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'', and the main point of disagreement between them and the neutral factions. (It's been demonstrated that this won't actually work--when the evil goddess Takhisis was banished from the world, the Church of Paladine effectively ''became'' evil by persecuting the neutral factions.)

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* In ''[[Literature/{{Daemon}} Freedom]]'', ''Literature/APracticalGuideToEvil'' has Dread Emperor Imperious quoted as expressing such opinion:
-->'''Imperious:''' See, this is exactly
the Major tells [[spoiler: a captured Peter Sebeck]] that people need to kind of trouble I’d be told what to do and that modern civilisation needs management avoiding by professionals.
* In
mind controlling the ''Literature/LeftBehind'' book ''Kingdom Come'': [[LaResistance The Other Light faction]] outlines in entire world. You fools are making my point for me, can’t you see?\\
'''Imperious:''' I imagine the High Lords would be inclined to protest the mind control, if I hadn’t seized control of
their ''If It's True'' manifesto that by God [[DeathsHourglass not allowing "naturals" minds, which just goes to live past 100 years of age]] as unbelievers, then He is against mankind having show this was the right to choose for themselves and thus [[GodIsEvil decision all along.
* The BigBad's goal in ''Literature/SnowCrash''. What makes this especially odd
is considered "evil"]]. This is part of their clarion call to have their teachings be passed down to the next generation of its converts so that the generation that gets to [[FinalBattle confront God and Jesus Christ at the end of the Millennium]] [[KillTheGod free will be "assured victory"]] when [[SealedEvilInACan Satan is released]]. [[CurbStompBattle Unfortunately for isn't the Other Light,]] [[YouCantFightFate it didn't turn out as they hoped.]]
* A major theme
natural state of ''Literature/TheLicaniusTrilogy''. The universe is set on a pre-destined track, which causes humankind, but an ideological rift among [[spoiler:ancient computer program written in the characters. One side believes people should be free at any price, while the other believes that a lack subconscious universal protolanguage of freedom doesn't mean a lack of meaning — and that achieving this freedom will accidentally destroy the world.
* In ''Literature/AcrossTheUniverseBethRevis'', Eldest declares individual thought to be one of the three causes of discord, and uses GovernmentDrugEnforcement to limit it as much as possible.
* In Chris Barfield's novel ''Hidden Histories'', this is the ultimate goal of Christianity; the breakup of Christianity into so many different sects is just an argument over method, not over the ultimate goal.
* This is the dark side of several "good" factions in ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'', and the main point of disagreement between them and the neutral factions. (It's been demonstrated that this won't actually work--when the evil goddess Takhisis
human thought]], by what was banished from the world, the Church of Paladine effectively ''became'' evil by persecuting a [[HiveQueen Hive King]] for the neutral factions.)human race, inspiring the Tower of Babel myth.



* ''Literature/{{Divergent}}'':
** In this {{dystopia}}, teens are forced to take an aptitude test that matches them with a "faction": Abnegation, Amity, Candor, Dauntless, or Erudite. The faction they choose, however, is where they end up for the rest of their lives. If they choose no faction, then they become factionless and are forced to be homeless. Also, if their test results do not match with any particular faction, then they are seen as Divergent, meaning they don’t necessarily conform to the thought patterns of their respective factions and therefore can't be trusted.
** There are shades of this in Abnegation. Basically, any part of free will that serves the self is prohibited.
** This is also in [[spoiler:Amity, due to "happiness serum" being put in bread and given to everyone without them noticing. Anyone who acts negatively will be taken to a room and given some directly]].
* In ''Literature/DeliriumSeries'', all teenagers are to be evaluated, mentally and physically, by a team of civil servants who will determine which career they are suited for and what sort of person they should marry (they choose from 4).



* In Creator/TadWilliams ''Literature/BobbyDollar'' series this is what ''Heaven'' is like. The Saved are all eternally happy but only because their memories and personalities have been rendered null and void. While in Hell Bobby notices that for all the unimaginable suffering there it's still far more "alive" than Heaven.
* ''Literature/APracticalGuideToEvil'' has Dread Emperor Imperious quoted as expressing such opinion:
-->'''Imperious:''' See, this is exactly the kind of trouble I’d be avoiding by mind controlling the entire world. You fools are making my point for me, can’t you see?\\
'''Imperious:''' I imagine the High Lords would be inclined to protest the mind control, if I hadn’t seized control of their minds, which just goes to show this was the right decision all along.

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* [[spoiler:Oberon]] from Creator/JohnCWright's ''Literature/WarOfTheDreaming'' wants to relieve Earth of its evils, chaos, and agonies by applying this trope. Predictably, the heroes tell him to [[ScrewYouElves get stuffed]].
* In Creator/TadWilliams ''Literature/BobbyDollar'' series this ''Literature/{{We}}'', the name of the disease is what ''Heaven'' is like. imagination. The Saved are all eternally happy but only because their memories and personalities have location of it in the brain has been rendered null discovered, and void. While in Hell Bobby notices that for all the unimaginable suffering there it's still far more "alive" than Heaven.
* ''Literature/APracticalGuideToEvil''
an operation has Dread Emperor Imperious quoted as expressing such opinion:
-->'''Imperious:''' See, this is exactly the kind of trouble I’d be avoiding by mind controlling the entire world. You fools are making my point for me, can’t you see?\\
'''Imperious:''' I imagine the High Lords would be inclined
been devised to protest the mind control, if I hadn’t seized control of their minds, which just goes to show this was the right decision all along.cure it.



* On ''Series/MorkAndMindy'', Orson sends Mork to Earth because humor and emotions are forbidden on Ork, and occasionally reminds Mork that emotions can be dangerous. At the start of Season 4, when Mork announces his plans to marry Mindy, Orson tells Mork that no Orkan has married since the Orkan Dark Ages. After Mork decides to go through with the wedding anyway, Orson turns Mork into a sheepdog, which he considered a more obedient life form. Mindy confronts Orson, announcing her plans to marry Mork no matter what, with Orson reluctantly turning Mork back to his old form, allowing the wedding to go ahead.

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* On ''Series/MorkAndMindy'', Orson sends Mork to Earth because humor Used as a MotiveRant by Dick's EvilTwin in ''Series/ThirdRockFromTheSun''.
-->"That's the problem with this planet. You've wholesale
and emotions are forbidden on Ork, retail, pink packets and occasionally reminds Mork blue packets, Republicans and Democrats and the party that emotions can be dangerous. At the start of Season 4, when Mork announces his plans to marry Mindy, Orson tells Mork that no Orkan crazy midget started. How they love their ''choices''. Everyone has married since the Orkan Dark Ages. After Mork decides to go through with the wedding anyway, Orson turns Mork into have their own ''point of view''. There should be only ''one'' point of view. '''MY''' point of view. I've got a sheepdog, which he considered a more obedient life form. Mindy confronts Orson, announcing her plans message for these humans. The buffet line is about to marry Mork no matter what, with Orson reluctantly turning Mork back to his old form, allowing the wedding to go ahead.close... ''forever''!"



* In the 1970's drama ''Series/ChildrenOfTheStones'', the AffablyEvil Rafael Hendrick tries to make the people of the village of Milbury perfect by removing their ability to make mistakes.



* The Borg in ''Franchise/StarTrek'' are amazed people aren't lining up to be assimilated. [[HiveQueen The Queen]] touts it as a ''blessing.''
* The ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "The Masterpiece Society" is about a human colony that used Social and Genetic engineering to decide each person's profession before they were born (and tweak them to fit that role).[[note]]And abort or alter any child who might have been born with a deformity, like blindness, which Geordi naturally takes great exception to.[[/note]] It didn't seem that bad, as everyone loved their job and the rest of their freedoms were pretty well preserved. Until a number of them realised their society had stagnated, when the much more advanced Enterprise showed up.[[note]]Further damning is technology that was key to saving them came from a device that allowed the blind engineer of the Enterprise to see.[[/note]] Then they wanted to leave, and the guardians of their colony tried to stop them.
* Diend's world in ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' was ruled by an evil organization that had one rule - be extremely nice and accommodating to everybody you meet or you'll get abducted and forcefully brainwashed.
* In the short-lived 1984 television series, ''Series/TheTripods'', based on Creator/JohnChristopher's science fiction trilogy, a teacher educates his classroom on the dark times before the Tripods came when humanity waged war and disease was rampant. Once the Tripods came and "saved" (enslaved) humanity with silvery caps removing their curiosity and thoughts of rebellion, holidays were held in each village where children past the age of sixteen are forced to be "capped", and become adults.

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* The Borg in ''Franchise/StarTrek'' are amazed people aren't lining up to be assimilated. [[HiveQueen The Queen]] touts it as a ''blessing.''
* The ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "The Masterpiece Society" is about a human colony that used Social and Genetic engineering to decide each person's profession before they were born (and tweak them to fit that role).[[note]]And abort or alter any child who might have
''Series/EerieIndiana'': In "Just Say No Fun", Nurse Nancy has been born with a deformity, like blindness, which Geordi naturally takes great exception to.[[/note]] It didn't seem that bad, as everyone loved their job and traveling to schools all over the rest of their freedoms were pretty well preserved. Until a number of them realised their society had stagnated, when the much more advanced Enterprise showed up.[[note]]Further damning is technology that was key to saving them came from a device that allowed the blind engineer of the Enterprise to see.[[/note]] Then they wanted to leave, and the guardians of their colony tried to stop them.
* Diend's world in ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' was ruled by an evil organization that had one rule - be extremely nice and accommodating to everybody you meet or you'll get abducted and forcefully brainwashed.
* In the short-lived 1984 television series, ''Series/TheTripods'', based on Creator/JohnChristopher's science fiction trilogy, a teacher educates his classroom on the dark times before the Tripods came when humanity waged war and disease was rampant. Once the Tripods came and "saved" (enslaved) humanity with silvery caps removing their curiosity and thoughts of rebellion, holidays were held in each village where
United States brainwashing children past under the age guise of sixteen are forced an eye test. Her goal is to be "capped", improve children's test scores and become adults.make them conform by eliminating their need for fun.



* The villain of the first season finale of ''Series/{{Misfits}}'' uses this to justify {{Brainwashing}} the local teenagers into rejecting drink, drugs and sex, and turning them into pretty much a HolierThanThou {{Cult}}. Although eventually she [[VillainousBreakdown snaps]] and admits [[spoiler: it's mostly revenge for being bullied for her beliefs]].
* Used as a MotiveRant by Dick's EvilTwin in ''Series/ThirdRockFromTheSun''.
-->"That's the problem with this planet. You've wholesale and retail, pink packets and blue packets, Republicans and Democrats and the party that crazy midget started. How they love their ''choices''. Everyone has to have their own ''point of view''. There should be only ''one'' point of view. '''MY''' point of view. I've got a message for these humans. The buffet line is about to close... ''forever''!"
* In the 1970's drama ''Series/ChildrenOfTheStones'', the AffablyEvil Rafael Hendrick tries to make the people of the village of Milbury perfect by removing their ability to make mistakes.
* ''Series/ThePrisoner1967'': In one of the later episodes one of the Number 2s reveals that they want the whole world to become like the Village, where a premium is placed on obedience and superficial harmony at the expense of free will and choice.

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* In ''Series/JupitersLegacy'', while Walter is debating with Sheldon over whether superheroes should influence society more, he replies to Sheldon's saying this would end free will with asserting that some would say free will is in fact the problem (as too many are able to do bad stuff).
* Diend's world in ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' was ruled by an evil organization that had one rule - be extremely nice and accommodating to everybody you meet or you'll get abducted and forcefully brainwashed.
* The villain of the first season finale of ''Series/{{Misfits}}'' uses this to justify {{Brainwashing}} the local teenagers into rejecting drink, drugs and sex, and turning them into pretty much a HolierThanThou {{Cult}}. Although eventually she [[VillainousBreakdown snaps]] and admits [[spoiler: it's [[spoiler:it's mostly revenge for being bullied for her beliefs]].
* Used as a MotiveRant by Dick's EvilTwin in ''Series/ThirdRockFromTheSun''.
-->"That's the problem with this planet. You've wholesale and retail, pink packets and blue packets, Republicans and Democrats and the party that crazy midget started. How they love their ''choices''. Everyone has to have their own ''point of view''. There should be only ''one'' point of view. '''MY''' point of view. I've got a message for these humans. The buffet line is about to close... ''forever''!"
* In the 1970's drama ''Series/ChildrenOfTheStones'', the AffablyEvil Rafael Hendrick tries to make the people of the village of Milbury perfect by removing their ability to make mistakes.
* ''Series/ThePrisoner1967'': In one of the later episodes one of the Number 2s reveals that they want the whole world to become like the Village, where a premium is placed on obedience and superficial harmony at the expense of free will and choice.
beliefs]].



%%* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', angels are all about this.

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%%* * ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'': In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', angels Season 5, it turns out that Lachesis and Atropos -- two of the three Fates of Myth/ClassicalMythology -- are all about this.of the firm belief that leaving mortals to handle their own lives only leads to chaos (citing things such as genocide and systemic incarceration), and that therefore they should be in charge of things once more. Their sister Clotho [[spoiler: (now known as Charlie)]] disagrees, seeing the beauty in freedom, which is why she [[DismantledMacGuffin scattered the pieces of the Loom of Fate]] centuries ago; the main conflict of the season eventually comes to the Legends racing Lachesis and Atropos for these pieces before they can reassemble the Loom.
* On ''Series/MorkAndMindy'', Orson sends Mork to Earth because humor and emotions are forbidden on Ork, and occasionally reminds Mork that emotions can be dangerous. At the start of Season 4, when Mork announces his plans to marry Mindy, Orson tells Mork that no Orkan has married since the Orkan Dark Ages. After Mork decides to go through with the wedding anyway, Orson turns Mork into a sheepdog, which he considered a more obedient life form. Mindy confronts Orson, announcing her plans to marry Mork no matter what, with Orson reluctantly turning Mork back to his old form, allowing the wedding to go ahead.



* ''Series/EerieIndiana'': In "Just Say No Fun", Nurse Nancy has been traveling to schools all over the United States brainwashing children under the guise of an eye test. Her goal is to improve children's test scores and make them conform by eliminating their need for fun.
* This is thoroughly discussed in ''Series/{{Westworld}}'':
** The Hosts in the titular park are bound by their code and have experienced cycles of abuse by the human guests. Robert Ford, one of the founders of the park, became very cynical and disillusioned of [[HumansAreBastards the guests' behavior]], believing that humans are bounded by their impulses and have already reached the end of evolution and the Hosts actually have the means to break out of their code and attain free will. In the Season 2 finale, the Forge A.I. also believes this, after studying the guests' data, concluding that humans are doomed to act in accordance with their own "coding", meaning that they will never change and that their "free will" is just an illusion because they're passengers of causality.
** In Season 3, Serac believes that humans need to be guided away from their dark impulses which is why he and his brothers built an A.I. system called Rehoboam where it can keep humanity in check by dictating what their lives and future would be by collecting and analyzing their personal data. However, this makes humanity experience what the Hosts had which is being under narrative loops. Meanwhile, the outliers, people who are considered dangerous to the system, are sent into camps where they are reconditioned via AR therapy to become better members of society.
* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'': In the "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS2E65TheObsoleteMan The Obsolete Man]]" the State doesn't believe in anyone thinking for themselves, that's for sure. It's implied to be why they have forbidden all books and religion.

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* ''Series/EerieIndiana'': ''Series/ThePrisoner1967'': In "Just Say No Fun", Nurse Nancy has been traveling to schools all over the United States brainwashing children under the guise of an eye test. Her goal is to improve children's test scores and make them conform by eliminating their need for fun.
* This is thoroughly discussed in ''Series/{{Westworld}}'':
** The Hosts in the titular park are bound by their code and have experienced cycles of abuse by the human guests. Robert Ford,
one of the founders later episodes one of the park, became very cynical and disillusioned of [[HumansAreBastards the guests' behavior]], believing that humans are bounded by their impulses and have already reached the end of evolution and the Hosts actually have the means to break out of their code and attain free will. In the Season 2 finale, the Forge A.I. also believes this, after studying the guests' data, concluding that humans are doomed to act in accordance with their own "coding", meaning Number 2s reveals that they will never change and that their "free will" is just an illusion because they're passengers of causality.
** In Season 3, Serac believes that humans need to be guided away from their dark impulses which is why he and his brothers built an A.I. system called Rehoboam where it can keep humanity in check by dictating what their lives and future would be by collecting and analyzing their personal data. However, this makes humanity experience what
want the Hosts had which is being under narrative loops. Meanwhile, the outliers, people who are considered dangerous to the system, are sent into camps where they are reconditioned via AR therapy whole world to become better members of society.
* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'': In
like the "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS2E65TheObsoleteMan Village, where a premium is placed on obedience and superficial harmony at the expense of free will and choice.
*
The Obsolete Man]]" ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode "Siliconia" has a rare example of a character making a speech like this about ''himself''; when the State doesn't believe in anyone thinking for themselves, that's for sure. It's implied Dwarfers are turned into mechanoids, Rimmer is the first to be why they accept it, saying that now he no longer has to make decisions, all his neuroses and complexes have forbidden all books gone, and religion.becoming an obedient automaton is the best thing that ever happened to him.



* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'': In Season 5, it turns out that Lachesis and Atropos -- two of the three Fates of Myth/ClassicalMythology -- are of the firm belief that leaving mortals to handle their own lives only leads to chaos (citing things such as genocide and systemic incarceration), and that therefore they should be in charge of things once more. Their sister Clotho [[spoiler: (now known as Charlie)]] disagrees, seeing the beauty in freedom, which is why she [[DismantledMacGuffin scattered the pieces of the Loom of Fate]] centuries ago; the main conflict of the season eventually comes to the Legends racing Lachesis and Atropos for these pieces before they can reassemble the Loom.
* The ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode "Siliconia" has a rare example of a character making a speech like this about ''himself''; when the Dwarfers are turned into mechanoids, Rimmer is the first to accept it, saying that now he no longer has to make decisions, all his neuroses and complexes have gone, and becoming an obedient automaton is the best thing that ever happened to him.
* In ''Series/JupitersLegacy'', while Walter is debating with Sheldon over whether superheroes should influence society more, he replies to Sheldon's saying this would end free will with asserting that some would say free will is in fact the problem (as too many are able to do bad stuff).

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* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'': The Borg in ''Franchise/StarTrek'' are amazed people aren't lining up to be assimilated. [[HiveQueen The Queen]] touts it as a ''blessing.''
* The ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "The Masterpiece Society" is about a human colony that used Social and Genetic engineering to decide each person's profession before they were born (and tweak them to fit that role).[[note]]And abort or alter any child who might have been born with a deformity, like blindness, which Geordi naturally takes great exception to.[[/note]] It didn't seem that bad, as everyone loved their job and the rest of their freedoms were pretty well preserved. Until a number of them realised their society had stagnated, when the much more advanced Enterprise showed up.[[note]]Further damning is technology that was key to saving them came from a device that allowed the blind engineer of the Enterprise to see.[[/note]] Then they wanted to leave, and the guardians of their colony tried to stop them.
%%* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', angels are all about this.
* In the short-lived 1984 television series, ''Series/TheTripods'', based on Creator/JohnChristopher's science fiction trilogy, a teacher educates his classroom on the dark times before the Tripods came when humanity waged war and disease was rampant. Once the Tripods came and "saved" (enslaved) humanity with silvery caps removing their curiosity and thoughts of rebellion, holidays were held in each village where children past the age of sixteen are forced to be "capped", and become adults.
* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'': In the "[[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS2E65TheObsoleteMan The Obsolete Man]]" the State doesn't believe in anyone thinking for themselves, that's for sure. It's implied to be why they have forbidden all books and religion.
* This is thoroughly discussed in ''Series/{{Westworld}}'':
** The Hosts in the titular park are bound by their code and have experienced cycles of abuse by the human guests. Robert Ford, one of the founders of the park, became very cynical and disillusioned of [[HumansAreBastards the guests' behavior]], believing that humans are bounded by their impulses and have already reached the end of evolution and the Hosts actually have the means to break out of their code and attain free will. In the Season 2 finale, the Forge A.I. also believes this, after studying the guests' data, concluding that humans are doomed to act in accordance with their own "coding", meaning that they will never change and that their "free will" is just an illusion because they're passengers of causality.
**
In Season 5, it turns out 3, Serac believes that Lachesis and Atropos -- two of the three Fates of Myth/ClassicalMythology -- are of the firm belief that leaving mortals humans need to handle be guided away from their own lives only leads to chaos (citing things such as genocide and systemic incarceration), and that therefore they should be in charge of things once more. Their sister Clotho [[spoiler: (now known as Charlie)]] disagrees, seeing the beauty in freedom, dark impulses which is why she [[DismantledMacGuffin scattered he and his brothers built an A.I. system called Rehoboam where it can keep humanity in check by dictating what their lives and future would be by collecting and analyzing their personal data. However, this makes humanity experience what the pieces of Hosts had which is being under narrative loops. Meanwhile, the Loom of Fate]] centuries ago; the main conflict of the season eventually comes outliers, people who are considered dangerous to the Legends racing Lachesis and Atropos for these pieces before system, are sent into camps where they can reassemble the Loom.
* The ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode "Siliconia" has a rare example of a character making a speech like this about ''himself''; when the Dwarfers
are turned into mechanoids, Rimmer is the first reconditioned via AR therapy to accept it, saying that now he no longer has to make decisions, all his neuroses and complexes have gone, and becoming an obedient automaton is the best thing that ever happened to him.
* In ''Series/JupitersLegacy'', while Walter is debating with Sheldon over whether superheroes should influence society more, he replies to Sheldon's saying this would end free will with asserting that some would say free will is in fact the problem (as too many are able to do bad stuff).
become better members of society.



* Music/APerfectCircle's "Pet" (and its alternative version, "Counting The Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of The War Drums"):
--> Safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poison devils...



--> ''Freedom of choice is what you got, FreedomFromChoice is what you want.''

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--> ''Freedom -->''Freedom of choice is what you got, FreedomFromChoice is what you want.''



--> ''I blew a hole in Mrs. Richard Holmes''
--> ''And her husband stupidly stood up''
--> ''As he screamed, "You are an evil man"''
--> ''And I paused a while to wonder''
--> ''"If I have no free will then how can I''
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Holmes''\\
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man"''\\
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* Music/APerfectCircle's "Pet" (and its alternative version, "Counting The Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of The War Drums"):
-->Safe from pain, and truth, and choice, and other poison devils...



* The Melissidae bloodline in ''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem'' owes its creation to a Ventrue being impressed by a woman who believed this so strongly she tried to gather a cult in an attempt to form a human HiveMind. The resultant vampires still believe it. The setting is ''not'' sympathetic to this ideology in the slightest, outright calling it a "perversion of humanity" even before an undead abomination is left as the [[HiveQueen sole driving will of the hive]].

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* The Melissidae bloodline in ''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem'' owes its creation to Bromion, a Ventrue being impressed by a woman who believed this so strongly she tried to gather a cult in an attempt to form a human HiveMind. The resultant vampires still believe it. The setting is ''not'' sympathetic to this ideology [[EldritchAbomination Lord of Order]] present in the slightest, outright calling official ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' setting, wants to destroy all life on earth because it a "perversion of humanity" even before an undead abomination is left as the [[HiveQueen sole driving will of the hive]].confusing and messy and most importantly ''chaotic''.



* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': The last goal of the Necrons is to cut away the connection between the Warp and realspace. While this would prevent the Chaos Gods and the daemons from interacting with the mortal world, it would also prevent interstellar travel and communication, and destroy the souls of all sentient beings, depriving them of their free will and turning them to cattle for the Necrons' C'tan stargods.
* Bromion, a [[EldritchAbomination Lord of Order]] present in the official ''TabletopGame/{{Champions}}'' setting, wants to destroy all life on earth because it is confusing and messy and most importantly ''chaotic''.


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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'': The last goal of the Necrons is to cut away the connection between the Warp and realspace. While this would prevent the Chaos Gods and the daemons from interacting with the mortal world, it would also prevent interstellar travel and communication, and destroy the souls of all sentient beings, depriving them of their free will and turning them to cattle for the Necrons' C'tan stargods.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TrollsWorldTour'', it's revealed that there are six major tribes of Trolls, each based on a different genre of music: Pop, Rock, Techno, Funk, Classical, and Country. BigBad Queen Barb, of the Rock Kingdom, genuinely believes that all of the Trolls should be united instead...the trouble is, she thinks that the different genres and freedom to choose are getting in the way of that goal. Barb thus plans to destroy all other music so that only Rock will exist, turning every single Troll into a "rock zombie" with no free will.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TrollsWorldTour'', it's revealed that there are six major tribes of Trolls, each based on a different genre of music: Pop, Rock, Techno, Funk, Classical, and Country. BigBad Queen Barb, of the Rock Kingdom, genuinely believes that all of the Trolls should be united instead...the trouble is, she thinks that the different genres and freedom to choose are getting in the way of that goal. Barb thus plans to destroy all other music so that only Rock will exist, turning every single Troll into a "rock zombie" with no free will.
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* This is the core philosophy of ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, and one he seeks to bring about through obtaining the Anti-Life Equation. The writer of New Gods, Creator/{{Jack Kirby}}, defined being alive as the ability to think and choose; therefore, his ultimate villain was a being inherently opposed to that very concept. Whenever he has gained the Anti-Life Equation, such as in JLA: Rock of Ages or ComicBook/FinalCrisis, Darkseid has used it to enslave all of humanity to his will, breaking their minds and destroying their very volition. There is no concept of "self" under his rule. There is no "free will". There is no "choice"...but to submit. For in his world, you are nothing, and '''Darkseid is.'''

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* This is the core philosophy of ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, and one he seeks to bring about through obtaining the Anti-Life Equation. The writer creator of New Gods, the ComicBook/{{New Gods}}, Creator/{{Jack Kirby}}, defined being alive as the ability to think and choose; therefore, his ultimate villain was a being inherently opposed to that very concept. Whenever he has gained the Anti-Life Equation, such as in JLA: Rock of Ages or ComicBook/FinalCrisis, Darkseid has used it to enslave all of humanity to his will, breaking their minds and destroying their very volition. There is no concept of "self" under his rule. There is no "free will". There is no "choice"...but to submit. For in his world, you are nothing, and '''Darkseid is.'''
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* This is possibly ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}'s intended use for the Anti-Life Equation. Kirby defined being alive as the ability to think and choose thus his ultimate bad guy wants the power of Anti-Life. In ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'' he succeeds and manages to enslave about three billion people on Earth by spreading the Equation through ''all'' forms of electronic communication. This comes close to HiveMind; in his BadassBoast he speaks through his three billion new slaves. When he makes a fist to crush resistance, it is with three billion hands. When he stares into your soul to shatter your hopes, it is with six billion eyes. Just to drive the point home, those three billion, or half of Earth's population he enslaved? He ''killed the other half''.

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* This is possibly ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}'s intended use for the core philosophy of ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, and one he seeks to bring about through obtaining the Anti-Life Equation. Kirby The writer of New Gods, Creator/{{Jack Kirby}}, defined being alive as the ability to think and choose thus choose; therefore, his ultimate bad guy wants villain was a being inherently opposed to that very concept. Whenever he has gained the power Anti-Life Equation, such as in JLA: Rock of Anti-Life. In ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'' he succeeds and manages Ages or ComicBook/FinalCrisis, Darkseid has used it to enslave about three billion people on Earth by spreading the Equation through ''all'' forms all of electronic communication. This comes close humanity to HiveMind; his will, breaking their minds and destroying their very volition. There is no concept of "self" under his rule. There is no "free will". There is no "choice"...but to submit. For in his BadassBoast he speaks through his three billion new slaves. When he makes a fist to crush resistance, it is with three billion hands. When he stares into your soul to shatter your hopes, it is with six billion eyes. Just to drive the point home, those three billion, or half of Earth's population he enslaved? He ''killed the other half''.world, you are nothing, and '''Darkseid is.'''
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The typical heroic rejoinder is: "I don't want to be told what to do." [[VillainHasAPoint The hero may even agree at several points at the villain]], acknowledging that HumansAreFlawed, they are more likely to gravitate to misuse their own free will for bad deeds. But it was the flaw that makes them ''human'', they have to take both good and bad. [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech And if the villain decides to eliminate those evils, that doesn't instantly make them good... they'll just look like they lack endurance and faith towards humanity altogether, not wanting to believe the good potential of mankind no matter how small.]]

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The typical heroic rejoinder is: "I don't want to be told what to do." [[VillainHasAPoint The hero may even agree at several points at the villain]], acknowledging that HumansAreFlawed, they are more likely to gravitate to misuse their own free will for bad deeds. But if it was the flaw that makes them ''human'', [[PatrickStewartSpeech they have to take both good and bad.bad]]. [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech And if the villain decides to eliminate those evils, that doesn't instantly make them good... they'll just look like they lack endurance and faith towards humanity altogether, not wanting to believe the good potential of mankind no matter how small.]]

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Contrast RousseauWasRight where people are naturally good by their own free will. Compare FreedomFromChoice, which is value-neutral.

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Contrast RousseauWasRight where people are naturally good by their own free will. Compare FreedomFromChoice, which is value-neutral.
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** On a more serious note, this appears to be Lucrezia's belief. She claims to want peace, but every other method has failed, so she's resorting to mind control. She promises that if Klaus joins with her, they can try his way first (which is all about loyalty and the greater good [[MightMakesRight backed by overwhelming force]]), but she fails to mention that the primary reason his way ''didn't'' work is because she was mind-controlling everyone into fighting him.

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** On a more serious note, this appears to be Lucrezia's belief. She claims (key word: ''[[ConsummateLiar claims]]'') to want peace, but every other method has failed, so she's resorting to mind control. She promises that if Klaus joins with her, they can try his way first (which is all about loyalty and the greater good [[MightMakesRight backed by overwhelming force]]), but she fails to mention that the primary reason his way ''didn't'' work is because she was mind-controlling everyone into fighting him.
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* In ''Anime/AndroidKikaiderTheAnimation'', Golden Bat considers the Gemini circuit, which gives Jiro a conscience and the ability to refuse orders, a tragedy for Jiro. The circuit compels Jiro to fight against his robotic kindred while his status as a robot alienates him from humanity, leaving him an outcast.
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyBraveExvius'': MAYOR spoilers for Season 3: [[spoiler:the villain, originally wishing to destroy the world thinking it was tainted BeyondSalvation, eventually settled on just simply robbing living being of hope and will. They believe is the only surefire way to stop the armed conflicts that have plagued the setting since times immemorial.]]

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyBraveExvius'': MAYOR spoilers for Season 3: [[spoiler:the villain, originally wishing to destroy the world thinking it was tainted BeyondSalvation, [[ItIsBeyondSaving beyond salvation]], eventually settled on just simply robbing living being of hope and will. They believe is the only surefire way to stop the armed conflicts that have plagued the setting since times immemorial.]]
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* In the {{Mockumentary}}, ''[[Film/CSATheConfederateStatesOfAmerica The C.S.A.]]'', its stated that runaway slaves suffer from the mental malady of ''draeptomania'', the "freedom illness", in which the afflicted believe that they don't want to be slaves. The Cartwright Institute for the Study of Freedom Illness promises its pupils to be qualified in a few months to treat ''draeptomania'', "rascality," and other "Negro peculiarities". The medicine contrari is marketed to slave owners to as a way to treat ''draeptomania'', though [[MayContainEvil it may actually just drug the victims]] into [[HappinessInSlavery mindless compliance.]] The final [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer montage at the end of the film]] shows that Dr. Cartwright was an actual person who did cook up ''draeptomania'' as another reason to justify slavery.

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* In the {{Mockumentary}}, ''[[Film/CSATheConfederateStatesOfAmerica The C.S.A.]]'', its stated that runaway slaves suffer from the mental malady of ''draeptomania'', ''drapetomania'', the "freedom illness", in which the afflicted believe that they don't want to be slaves. The Cartwright Institute for the Study of Freedom Illness promises its pupils to be qualified in a few months to treat ''draeptomania'', ''drapetomania'', "rascality," and other "Negro peculiarities". The medicine contrari is marketed to slave owners to as a way to treat ''draeptomania'', ''drapetomania'', though [[MayContainEvil it may actually just drug the victims]] into [[HappinessInSlavery mindless compliance.]] The final [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer montage at the end of the film]] shows that Dr. Cartwright was an actual person who did cook up ''draeptomania'' ''drapetomania'' as another reason to justify slavery.
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* Both the city of Hallifax and the commune of Glomdoring in ''VideoGame/{{Lusternia}}''. Hallifax are CrystalSpiresAndTogas communists, who attempt to convert their enemies with reasoned debate and advanced super-science. Glomdoring is TheLostWoods and populated by TheFairFolk, who want to seed their corrupted forest through the rest of the known world, and brainwash the remnants of society (or, if that fails, [[AbsoluteXenophobe kill them all]]). Neither tolerates dissent. ([[TheUndead Magnagora]] does not fit here, despite being more overtly evil - they ''encourage'' dissent, believing it will make the usurpers [[TheSocialDarwinist stronger than their forebears]] when they rise up.)
* This is pretty much {{God|IsEvil}}'s (and by extension the Law alignment's) catch phrase in the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series. His idea of a perfect society is a paradise where people can't do wrong... not ''won't'' do wrong... ''can't''.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Lusternia}}'': Both the city of Hallifax and the commune of Glomdoring in ''VideoGame/{{Lusternia}}''.Glomdoring. Hallifax are CrystalSpiresAndTogas communists, who attempt to convert their enemies with reasoned debate and advanced super-science. Glomdoring is TheLostWoods an EnchantedForest and populated by TheFairFolk, who want to seed their corrupted forest through the rest of the known world, and brainwash the remnants of society (or, if that fails, [[AbsoluteXenophobe kill them all]]). Neither tolerates dissent. ([[TheUndead Magnagora]] does not fit here, despite being more overtly evil - -- they ''encourage'' dissent, believing it will make the usurpers [[TheSocialDarwinist stronger than their forebears]] when they rise up.)
* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'': This is pretty much {{God|IsEvil}}'s (and by extension the Law alignment's) catch phrase in the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' series.catchphrase. His idea of a perfect society is a paradise where people can't do wrong... not ''won't'' do wrong... ''can't''.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TrollsWorldTour'', it's revealed that there are six major tribes of Trolls, each based on a different genre of music: Pop, Rock, Techno, Funk, Classical, and Country. BigBad Queen Barb, of the Rock Kingdom, genuinely believes that all of the Trolls should be united instead...the trouble is, she thinks that the different genres and freedom to choose are getting in the way of that goal. Barb thus plans to destroy all other music so that only Rock will exist, turning every single Troll into a "rock zombie" with no free will.
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* Though a paradise with no crime and high living standards, ''Film/DemolitionMan'' has the [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad ultra-PC]] [[CrapsaccharineWorld San Angeles]], where everything that isn't good for you, including the traditional method of sex, is illegal. [[BigBad Simon Phoenix]] put it best to the new society's founder [[AffablyEvil Raymond Cocteau]]: "You're an evil Mister Rogers."

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* Though a paradise with no crime and high living standards, ''Film/DemolitionMan'' has the [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad [[PoliticalOvercorrectness ultra-PC]] [[CrapsaccharineWorld San Angeles]], where everything that isn't good for you, including the traditional method of sex, is illegal. [[BigBad Simon Phoenix]] put it best to the new society's founder [[AffablyEvil Raymond Cocteau]]: "You're an evil Mister Rogers."
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* Commander Tartar in ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' views chaos and free will to be the same thing, and thus sought to bring order by ensuring that the new "superior" lifeforms that will emerge from its DNA ooze will have no free will of their own. Considering [[EmptyShell what happened to the Octarians that have been "sanitized" by the procedure]]...

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* Commander ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'': [[spoiler:Commander Tartar in ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'' views chaos and free will to be the same thing, and thus sought to bring order by ensuring that the new "superior" lifeforms that will emerge from its DNA ooze will have no free will of their own. Considering [[EmptyShell what happened to the Octarians that have been "sanitized" by the procedure]]...]]

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* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW'': This is given as the reason behind [[BigBad Dr Eggman]]'s world-conquering dream. Utterly despising how "filthy" and "irregular" the world is, Eggman, as the [[InsufferableGenius greatest genius that has ever lived]], feels compelled to mold it into his image of perfection by eliminating of what he deems as imperfections, including free will.

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This is given as the reason behind [[BigBad Dr Eggman]]'s world-conquering dream. Utterly despising how "filthy" and "irregular" the world is, Eggman, as the [[InsufferableGenius greatest genius that has ever lived]], feels compelled to mold it into his image of perfection by eliminating of what he deems as imperfections, including free will.will.
** Dr Starline shares Eggman's dislike of the chaotic and unorganized nature of the world he's planned to conquer and bring it to total order as envisioned by him. The main difference is rather than extolling the superiority of blind robotic obedience as Eggman does, Starline believes that living beings are superior to mindless machines and plans to create an army of cyborgs mentally programmed to be at his beck and call that would enact the world conquering for him.

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* ''Fanfic/CodePrime'': Schneizel gives this rationale as why he's aiding the Decepticons. In his view, humanity is driven by conflict and other self-destructive behaviors as a result of their very nature, and under Decepticon rule, everyone will be equal (or equally worthless, as Gino puts it), and they can bring order.
** In ‘’R2’’, Megatron and Shockwave come to have this view for all sentient beings, [[spoiler:and are creating the Neo-Ragnarok plan, based off Charles and V.V.’s original Ragnarok plans, to erase this.]]

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Schneizel gives this rationale as why he's aiding the Decepticons. In his view, humanity is driven by conflict and other self-destructive behaviors as a result of their very nature, and under Decepticon rule, everyone will be equal (or equally worthless, as Gino puts it), and they can bring order.
** In ‘’R2’’, ''R2'', Megatron and Shockwave come to have this view for all sentient beings, [[spoiler:and are creating the Neo-Ragnarok plan, based off Charles and V.V.’s original Ragnarok plans, to erase this.]]

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** Read the Book of Job, and it gives an interesting view on Satan as a tempter whose sole purpose was to tempt the faithful and then denounce them as a test of faith, ''and he was given that role by God''. It was seriously implied that God was in command of both Good and Evil, thus being beyond such.
*** That of course is just one possible interpretation of that book.

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** Read the Book of Job, and it Job gives an interesting view on Satan as a tempter whose sole purpose was to tempt the faithful and then denounce them as a test of faith, ''and he was given that role by God''. It was seriously implied that God was in command of both Good and Evil, thus being beyond such.
*** That of course is just one possible interpretation of that book.
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** Also there was Charles zi Britannia's plan of [[spoiler:destroying the "gods" to merge every person, living and dead, into one being. This would effectively remove any free will and make sure nothing ever advanced.]]

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** Also there was Charles zi Britannia's plan of [[spoiler:destroying the "gods" to merge every person, [[AssimilationPlot living and dead, into one being.being]]. This would effectively remove any free will and make sure nothing ever advanced.]]

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* Similar to ''Tales of Symphonia'' above, ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' involves a plot to rob free will, as well as tie in some plot elements to the sequel ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria''. [[spoiler:Daemonblight, or Malevolence as it's really called, infects humans when they are overrun by negative emotions and turns them into demons. Humans constantly create Malevolence subconsciously, and Malakim are especially sensitive to it that they'll turn into dragons. The BigBad decides the best way to get rid of Daemonblight/Malevolence for good is to resurrect a sealed, nameless God that feeds on Malevolence and can suppress everyone's freewill. The situation looks so dire that the suppressed humans are DrivenToSuicide because of their own wants and needs are deemed as selfish and evil, even simple things like enjoying the taste of food.]]



--> "''Existence is a choice. A self of suffering, brings only suffering to the world. It is a choice, and [[HeroicSuicide we can refuse it]]''".

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* Similar to Tales of Symphonia above, ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' involves a plot to rob free will, as well as tie in some plot elements to the sequel ''VideoGame/TalesOfZestiria''. [[spoiler: Daemonblight, or Malevolence as it's really called, infects humans when they are overrun by negative emotions and turns them into demons. Humans constantly create Malevolence subconsciously, and Malakim are especially sensitive to it that they'll turn into dragons. The BigBad decides the best way to get rid of Daemonblight/Malevolence for good is to resurrect a sealed, nameless God that feeds on Malevolence and can suppress everyone's freewill. The situation looks so dire that the suppressed humans are DrivenToSuicide because of their own wants and needs are deemed as selfish and evil, even simple things like enjoying the taste of food.]]



--->'''XERXES:''' Why do you persist in your loneliness? Do you not wish to be free from the tyranny of the individual?

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyBraveExvius'': MAYOR spoilers for Season 3: [[spoiler: the villain, originally wishing to destroy the world thinking it was tainted BeyondSalvation, eventually settled on just simply robbing living being of hope and will. They believe is the only surefire way to stop the armed conflicts that have plagued the setting since times immemorial.]]

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyBraveExvius'': MAYOR spoilers for Season 3: [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the villain, originally wishing to destroy the world thinking it was tainted BeyondSalvation, eventually settled on just simply robbing living being of hope and will. They believe is the only surefire way to stop the armed conflicts that have plagued the setting since times immemorial.]]
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* Discussed in ''[[Fanfic/AradsStardust Stardust]]'', where Discord states in chapter 31 that the reason the Elements of Harmony won't work against the alien invaders is because they adhere to their own twisted sense of Order. In the same chapter, he also states that he believes Celestia will fall into this line of thinking if he "released her". ''Fortitude Amicitia'' implies that [[spoiler:this is because she already has once.]]

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* Discussed in ''[[Fanfic/AradsStardust Stardust]]'', ''Fanfic/{{Stardust|Arad}}'', where Discord states in chapter 31 that the reason the Elements of Harmony won't work against the alien invaders is because they adhere to their own twisted sense of Order. In the same chapter, he also states that he believes Celestia will fall into this line of thinking if he "released her". ''Fortitude Amicitia'' implies that [[spoiler:this is because she already has once.]]
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* B-movie reviewer Scott Foy's [[http://www.foywonder.com/current_columns/foy_0609.html review]] of the pro-Christian drama ''Film/CMeDance'' -- in which a teenaged girl is graced with the ability to convert people to Christianity via her touch -- points out that the film's ''heroes'' apparently believe in this trope, leading to most UnfortunateImplications.
-->Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is a horror movie, just one with a great big smile on its face that [[FridgeHorror doesn't realise what it truly is]]. C ME DANCE is exactly like all those bodysnatching horror movies we've seen where someone gets taken over by an evil presence that can infect and impose its evil into anyone it comes into contact with. Sure, it's the power of Christ this time around but that doesn't make it any less sinister in its affront to the very notion of free will.
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* In ''Literature/AcrossTheUniverse'', Eldest declares individual thought to be one of the three causes of discord, and uses GovernmentDrugEnforcement to limit it as much as possible.

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* In ''Literature/AcrossTheUniverse'', ''Literature/AcrossTheUniverseBethRevis'', Eldest declares individual thought to be one of the three causes of discord, and uses GovernmentDrugEnforcement to limit it as much as possible.
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*** Yet it still is OlderThanFeudalism. St. Augustine, the famous church father who lived around 400 AD, wrote extensively on free will and had arguments about it with both the Manicheans (a non-Christian religion of which he was a former member) and, more famously, with Pelagius (a British Christian monk). Augustine believed in free will, but also believed that humanity was tainted with original sin and would therefore be in need of divine grace to achieve moral perfection. Pelagius denied this necessity and the impact of original sin on anyone else but Adam. Augustine was not the first church father to write on free will. Among others Justin Martyr, Tertullian and Irenaeus have all written on the subject. Furthermore, even though the Bible does not raise the question directly, reading the narrative will naturally provoke the question, especially concerning Adam and Eve's actions surrounding the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (did they eat its fruit willingly or was it predetermined?).

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*** Yet it still is OlderThanFeudalism. St. Augustine, the famous church father who lived around 400 AD, wrote extensively on free will and had arguments about it with both the Manicheans (a non-Christian religion of which he was a former member) and, more famously, with Pelagius (a British Christian monk). Augustine believed in free will, but also believed that humanity was tainted with original sin and would therefore be in need of divine grace to achieve moral perfection. Pelagius denied this necessity and the impact of original sin on anyone else but Adam. Augustine was not the first church father to write on free will. Among others Justin Martyr, Tertullian and Irenaeus have all written on the subject. Furthermore, even though the Bible does not raise the question directly, reading the narrative will naturally provoke the question, especially concerning Adam and Eve's actions surrounding the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (did (Did they eat its fruit willingly or was it predetermined?).predetermined? If free will is good and eating it gave humanity this, why was it wrong? Etc).



** Read the Book of Job, and it gives an interesting view on Satan as a tempter whose sole purpose was to tempt the faithful and then denounce them as a test of faith, ''and he was given that role by God.'' It was seriously implied that God was in command of both Good and Evil, thus being beyond such.

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** Read the Book of Job, and it gives an interesting view on Satan as a tempter whose sole purpose was to tempt the faithful and then denounce them as a test of faith, ''and he was given that role by God.'' God''. It was seriously implied that God was in command of both Good and Evil, thus being beyond such.
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** Funnily enough, in Egypt, when the protestors had their elections and realized that their new leader would attempt to invade Israel ''again'', many who still remembered the whoopping Egypt recieved the last couple times they tried immediately worked to oust ''that'' guy from power, and hold a ''new'' set of elections with his party, understandably, not allowed to run.
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* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIWD'': This is given as the reason behind [[BigBad Dr Eggman]]'s world-conquering dream. Utterly despising how "filthy" and "irregular" the world is, Eggman, as the [[InsufferableGenius greatest genius that has ever lived]], feels compelled to mold it into his image of perfection by eliminating of what he deems as imperfections, including free will.

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* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIWD'': ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW'': This is given as the reason behind [[BigBad Dr Eggman]]'s world-conquering dream. Utterly despising how "filthy" and "irregular" the world is, Eggman, as the [[InsufferableGenius greatest genius that has ever lived]], feels compelled to mold it into his image of perfection by eliminating of what he deems as imperfections, including free will.

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