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* Beast Boy from ''TeenTitans''.

-->'''-- Mark Evanier''' [[http://www.newsfromme.com/archives/2008_12_11.html#016337 about the time he wrote for cartoons on the 80's]]

* Parodied heavily with the ShowWithinAShow "The Buddy Bears" from ''{{Garfield and Friends}}''. Not coincidentally, the head writer of ''{{Garfield and Friends}}'', and the writer of this episode, was Mark Evanier. One episode featured Garfield, sick of having to deal with them, [[AppleOfDiscord manipulate them into a situation where they COULDN'T agree]]: [[spoiler:pizza toppings]].

* ''MuppetBabies'': Fozzie Bear's friends can't stand his gags and jokes, especially his bad ones.

'''Everybody''': "FOZZIE!"

'''Fozzie''':"What!"

*** It shows how much the show defies this trope that by the end of the first season, Sokka goes from being an obnoxious clumsy goof to being the team member everyone relies on for planning.

* ''The Busy World of Richard Scarry'' has the brothers Pig Will and Pig Won't, who somehow manage to embody this Aesop using only two people. As their names suggest, one agrees to ''every'' request or offer, and the other refuses every offer. No matter what their giggly hippo babysitter asks them to do, Pig Won't's refusal ends up making him miserable... somehow. Even when it's a simple preference not to play a certain game. One wonders how, exactly, Pig Will would cope with being so "agreeable"/mentally pliable in the outside world, without the protection of a benign authority figure. In the original book Pig Won't would always say "I won't", without even thinking about it. So one day when their father asks who wants to go with him to visit the fire station, Pig Won't declares "I won't". At the fire station, Pig Will gets to play with the dalmatian, wear a fire suit, play with the fire hose (with adult supervision), and it all ends with an all-you-can-eat hot fudge sundae orgy! When Pig Won't sees all the fun Pig Will had, he immediately becomes Pig Me Too. The moral's supposed to be: "Don't just blindly disobey your folks, because you might miss out on some pretty cool stuff!", but reeks more of "Obey all orders without question, and you'll get a treat! You know, a ''treat'', like a dog gets for not shitting on the carpet!". When Pig Me Too enters the real world and stops getting treats for obeying, he's going to feel like a dumbass.

** Made all the more hilarious in that it IS America, where religion/tradition (from Thanksgiving day to July 4th) are very, very serious businesses. Any other country and they'd probably hang stuff on them for putting up so much junk in the first place!

* An episode of ''BarneyAndFriends'' had each of the children wanting to do something ''different'': when the question of "What shall ''we'' do today?" came up one wanted to swing, one wanted to listen to music, one wanted to paint a picture, and so on. Let each child do what he or she liked? Unthinkable. No, instead we'll '''Take Turns''' -- we'll all get on the swings, then we'll all paint pictures, then we'll all listen to music, because it's wrong and impossible to do something or even want to do it unless we ''all'; do it. Because what ''you'' want to do is meaningless unless ''we'' want to do it. Although, part of it probably also had something to do with encouraging children to be [[LonersAreFreaks sociable]]. Good luck with that.

** Simplistic indeed: a world in which authority figures reward obedience. How unlikely!

* Parodied in comic strips when it comes to family vacations, since the complainer is often in the ''majority''. Basically, the father alone chooses where the family goes on their trip, everyone else is forced to endure a horrible vacation, and then they let the father have it at the end. ''FoxTrot'' (though sometimes this had the mom as the sole complainer, unable to have a good time at theme parks etc.) and ''{{Calvin and Hobbes}}'' were the leaders in this.

* Played with in ''TheAmazingChanAndTheChanClan''. Alan, Tom and Suzie refuse to believe Anne's claim that a valuable ring was stolen by a woman, but this argument is quickly forgotten when they catch another suspect and Anne joins the others in following him. In the end, it turns out that Anne was right all along.

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* Subverted in the JusticeLeague episode "Panic in the Sky". {{Batman}} was the only one who refused to surrender himself to the authorities. If he didn't go to confront Amanda Waller, the rest of the League would still be imprisoned and Luthor would have completed the powerful and immortal android he was going to transfer his consciousness to and make himself a living god.

* This trope seemed to become a running gag in ''{{Sonic X}}'', a recurring situation would come in which Knuckles would object to a team mission plan, usually leading the gang to use peer pressure and goad his ego and bravery until he gave in (just for {{Comedic Sociopathy}} humor, even normally sweet characters like [[{{Moe}} Cream]] or unrelated background ones would join in bullying the poor guy). This was only worsened by the fact that a lot of times he turned out to be right to doubt their plans (like the idea of gambling a chaos emerald in a baseball game that Eggman surely wouldn't cheat in) yet oddly Knuckles rarely ever called them out on it. Also let to {{Moral Dissonance}} since the gang also spent a lot of time explaining to Knuckles how he shouldn't constant fall for Eggman manipulating or tricking him into working for him.

* Parodied heavily with the ShowWithinAShow "The Buddy Bears" from ''{{Garfield and Friends}}''; obviously, the page quote comes from this. Not coincidentally, the head writer of ''{{Garfield and Friends}}'', and the writer of this episode, was Mark Evanier. One episode featured Garfield, sick of having to deal with them, [[AppleOfDiscord manipulate them into a situation where they COULDN'T agree]]: [[spoiler:pizza toppings]].
** Their ''other'' verse, with double your creepy, goes:

* Jim Henson created some puppet characters to advertise Wilkins Coffee. One was called Wilkins and one was called Wontkins. Wilkins would go on about how wonderful coffee was and would offer some to Wontkins, who would refuse. Wilkins would then shoot Wontkins with a cannon or drop something heavy on him.
** In one ad, Wilkins ''erased Wontkins from existence'' before cryptically saying to the camera, "If you don't like Wilkins, you don't go anywhere!"

* ''Allegras Window'' had an episode like this. The class was asked what their favorite vegetable was, and they all answered "blue zutabaga," (a fictional vegetable that often featured in the show) except Allegra, who had never had one before, and said that her favorite vegetable was the carrot. Over the course of the episode, Allegra was urged by everyone she knew to try blue zutabagas, until the end, when she finally tasted one, and decided it was, in fact, her favorite vegetable.
** The ''intended'' Aesop of that episode was likely "[[IDoNotLikeGreenEggsAndHam don't be afraid to try new foods]]," and the classroom scene was probably to emphasize how good everyone thought this vegetable was, so why still insist you won't like it? Good point, [[BrokenAesop bad approach]].

* ''{{iCarly}}'': iMeet Fred. They should replace this tropes picture with one of Freddie after being beaten up with a tennis racquet because he said Fred wasn't that funny. Then getting tossed out of a treehouse. Among other things.
* An episode of ''BarneyAndFriends'' had each of the children wanting to do something ''different'': when the question of "What shall '''WE''' do today?" came up one wanted to swing, one wanted to listen to music, one wanted to paint a picture, and so on. Let each child do what he or she liked? Unthinkable. No, instead we'll '''Take Turns''' -- we'll ALL get on the swings, then we'll ALL paint pictures, then we'll ALL listen to music, because it's wrong and impossible to do something or even want to do it unless we ALL do it. Because what '''you''' want to do is meaningless unless '''WE''' want to do it.
** Although, part of it probably also had something to do with encouraging children to be [[LonersAreFreaks sociable]].

* In ''{{Charlie the Unicorn}}'', it's played straight the entire time, except for right until the end, [[spoiler:when his two friends steal his kidney.]]
** Not entirely straight, since the other two are really annoying from the start, even abusive.
** Or the sequel, when they go on a magical quest to return an amulet to the banana king. [[spoiler:It all turns out to be an elaborate ploy to rob Charlie blind.]]
*** ''Really'' elaborate. [[spoiler:It even includes a set-swapping musical number.]]
** Or the third one, where Charlie is dragged every step of the way on a magical underwater journey to complete the snowman that they say will save the world. [[spoiler: They complete the snowman, all right. By using knockout gas on Charlie so they can break off his horn and use it as the snowman's nose. Oh, and his kidney's there, too.]]
*** One begins to wonder why Charlie doesn't just run away from those two. [[TheCatCameBack Oh wait.]]

* Inverted in ''AvatarTheLastAirbender''. The Complainer of the group, Sokka, is also TheSmartGuy.
** Of course, Sokka is also The ButtMonkey, So it is played straight on occasion.