Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 67 (click to see context) from:
** ''Fox Trot'' plays around with it. Sometimes mother Andy is the only complainer, usually because the trip is expensive and doesn't appeal to her. Other times all three kids are complainers because they've been taken somewhere they consider boring (read: educational). But most of the time, Andy ''and'' the kids are the complainers, because [[BumblingDad Roger]] dragged them out to the middle of nowhere, where they're eaten alive by mosquitoes and lose their food to a bear, and he absolutely refuses to pack it in early.
to:
** ''Fox Trot'' ''[=FoxTrot=]'' plays around with it. Sometimes mother Andy is the only complainer, usually because the trip is expensive and doesn't appeal to her. Other times all three kids are complainers because they've been taken somewhere they consider boring (read: educational). But most of the time, Andy ''and'' the kids are the complainers, because [[BumblingDad Roger]] dragged them out to the middle of nowhere, where they're eaten alive by mosquitoes and lose their food to a bear, and he absolutely refuses to pack it in early.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Trope was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup
Changed line(s) 154 (click to see context) from:
* Happens to Claire on ''Series/ModernFamily'' to distressing degrees. For example, even when armed with videotaped evidence to support that Phil put her in physical danger while he flirted with another woman, the MoralOfTheStory is Claire went too far to prove she was correct while Phil pulls a KarmaHoudini. In fairness, she did describe the lengths to which she went to prove that Phil [[MinorInjuryOverreaction knocked her over]], which were somewhat extreme. Then she also confessed to [[CrossesTheLineTwice putting Mitchell into a dryer when they were young because a friend told her it wouldn't start with a baby inside]].
to:
* Happens to Claire on ''Series/ModernFamily'' to distressing degrees. For example, even when armed with videotaped evidence to support that Phil put her in physical danger while he flirted with another woman, the MoralOfTheStory moral is Claire went too far to prove she was correct while Phil pulls a KarmaHoudini. In fairness, she did describe the lengths to which she went to prove that Phil [[MinorInjuryOverreaction knocked her over]], which were somewhat extreme. Then she also confessed to [[CrossesTheLineTwice putting Mitchell into a dryer when they were young because a friend told her it wouldn't start with a baby inside]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 91 (click to see context) from:
* Played straight and {{subverted|Trope}} in Disney's ''WesternAnimation/Snow WhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs''. Grumpy is [[ButtMonkey humiliated again and again]] for his resistance to Snow White's charms and his reluctance to do as she says (e.g. wash before dinner), and by the end he finally gives in and learns to love her after all. But it's a different matter when the others ignore his fears that Snow White's presence in the house will lead the Queen right to them. Turns out he's [[ProperlyParanoid bang on the money]] on that one.
to:
* Played straight and {{subverted|Trope}} in Disney's ''WesternAnimation/Snow WhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs''.''WesternAnimation/SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs''. Grumpy is [[ButtMonkey humiliated again and again]] for his resistance to Snow White's charms and his reluctance to do as she says (e.g. wash before dinner), and by the end he finally gives in and learns to love her after all. But it's a different matter when the others ignore his fears that Snow White's presence in the house will lead the Queen right to them. Turns out he's [[ProperlyParanoid bang on the money]] on that one.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 91 (click to see context) from:
* {{Subverted|Trope}} in Disney's ''WesternAnimation/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}}'', which has Grumpy being ridiculed for his fears that Snow White will lead the Queen right to them. Turns out he's [[ProperlyParanoid bang on the money]] on that one.
to:
* {{Subverted|Trope}} Played straight and {{subverted|Trope}} in Disney's ''WesternAnimation/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}}'', which has ''WesternAnimation/Snow WhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs''. Grumpy being ridiculed is [[ButtMonkey humiliated again and again]] for his resistance to Snow White's charms and his reluctance to do as she says (e.g. wash before dinner), and by the end he finally gives in and learns to love her after all. But it's a different matter when the others ignore his fears that Snow White White's presence in the house will lead the Queen right to them. Turns out he's [[ProperlyParanoid bang on the money]] on that one.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 77 (click to see context) :
* Averted with Danny Donkey in ''ComicStrip/PearlsBeforeSwine''. It's like Rat -- and by extension, Stephan Pastis -- created him to be the antithesis of this trope by making the complainer be the "hero" of Rat's children's stories.
Changed line(s) 152 (click to see context) from:
* ''Series/ICarly'': "iMeet Fred". Freddie is bashed with a tennis racquet because he said Fred [[OpinionMyopia wasn't that funny]]. And then tossed out of a treehouse. Among other things. This is HarsherInHindsight when you consider that Fred is considered ''highly'' divisive out-of-universe.
to:
* ''Series/ICarly'': "iMeet Fred". Freddie is bashed with a tennis racquet because he said Fred [[OpinionMyopia wasn't that funny]]. And then tossed out of a treehouse. Among other things. This is HarsherInHindsight when you consider that Fred is considered ''highly'' divisive out-of-universe.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 32 (click to see context) from:
* Just about every "Four out of five [insert profession here] agree that..." advertisement falls into this category. (There's one where it's shown that the only dissenter ''would'' have said yes had he not been screaming in pain from being bitten by a [[SquirrelsInMyPants squirrel]] right then.)
to:
* Just about every Every "Four out of five [insert profession here] agree that..." advertisement falls into this category. (There's one where it's shown that the only dissenter ''would'' have said yes had he not been screaming in pain from being bitten by a [[SquirrelsInMyPants squirrel]] right then.)
Changed line(s) 42 (click to see context) from:
* The Danish store chain Normal has the "unique man" who makes nonsensical complaints like "why does it have to be so cheap?" and "I think you save too much money!" The implication, of course, is that normal people like the store because it's cheap.
to:
* The Danish store chain Normal has the "unique man" who makes nonsensical complaints like "why does it have to be so cheap?" and "I think you save too much money!" The implication, of course, implication is that normal people like the store because it's cheap.
Changed line(s) 50 (click to see context) from:
** The third CompilationMovie's take on these events have Ohgi fall under this when [[spoiler:he wants to give Zero a chance to explain himself and tell the truth, and objects to Schneizel's men preparing to shoot until they actually have their answers]]. He and Viletta also have a point with Deithard above considering he really was doing a couple of stuff behind their backs, including [[AdaptationDistillation how in this version]], he was the one who shot her and caused her amnesia that led to them meeting in the first place.
to:
** The third CompilationMovie's take on these events have Ohgi fall under this when [[spoiler:he wants to give Zero a chance to explain himself and tell the truth, and objects to Schneizel's men preparing to shoot until they actually have their answers]]. He and Viletta also have a point with Deithard above considering he really was doing a couple of stuff behind their backs, including [[AdaptationDistillation how in this version]], he was the one who shot her and caused her amnesia that led to them meeting in the first place.
Changed line(s) 66,69 (click to see context) from:
* For a time, there was a common story arc in comic strips that parodied, if not totally inverted, this trope. Basically, one family member (usually the father) alone would choose where the family goes on their trip, everyone else is forced to endure a horrible vacation, and then they let the father have it at the end. ''ComicStrip/FoxTrot'' and ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' were the leaders in this.
** Though ''Fox Trot'' plays around with it. Sometimes mother Andy is the only complainer, usually because the trip is expensive and doesn't appeal to her. Other times all three kids are complainers because they've been taken somewhere they consider boring (read: educational). But most of the time, Andy ''and'' the kids are the complainers, because [[BumblingDad Roger]] dragged them out to the middle of nowhere, where they're eaten alive by mosquitoes and lose their food to a bear, and he absolutely refuses to pack it in early.
** As for ''Calvin and Hobbes'', Calvin's suggestion that they go to a hotel, take a picture of themselves with a fish from a store, and lie to everyone is met with approval from his mom.
*** It's worth noting that the first time that Calvin's Dad took them camping, Calvin was interested and excited, only for it to rain torrentially the entire trip. Calvin's distaste comes from experience.
** Though ''Fox Trot'' plays around with it. Sometimes mother Andy is the only complainer, usually because the trip is expensive and doesn't appeal to her. Other times all three kids are complainers because they've been taken somewhere they consider boring (read: educational). But most of the time, Andy ''and'' the kids are the complainers, because [[BumblingDad Roger]] dragged them out to the middle of nowhere, where they're eaten alive by mosquitoes and lose their food to a bear, and he absolutely refuses to pack it in early.
** As for ''Calvin and Hobbes'', Calvin's suggestion that they go to a hotel, take a picture of themselves with a fish from a store, and lie to everyone is met with approval from his mom.
*** It's worth noting that the first time that Calvin's Dad took them camping, Calvin was interested and excited, only for it to rain torrentially the entire trip. Calvin's distaste comes from experience.
to:
* For a time, there was a common story arc in comic strips that parodied, if not totally inverted, this trope. Basically, one One family member (usually the father) alone would choose where the family goes on their trip, everyone trip. Everyone else is forced to endure a horrible vacation, and then they let the father have it at the end. ''ComicStrip/FoxTrot'' and ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' were the leaders in this.
**Though ''Fox Trot'' plays around with it. Sometimes mother Andy is the only complainer, usually because the trip is expensive and doesn't appeal to her. Other times all three kids are complainers because they've been taken somewhere they consider boring (read: educational). But most of the time, Andy ''and'' the kids are the complainers, because [[BumblingDad Roger]] dragged them out to the middle of nowhere, where they're eaten alive by mosquitoes and lose their food to a bear, and he absolutely refuses to pack it in early.
** As for ''Calvin and Hobbes'', Calvin's suggestion that they go to a hotel, take a picture of themselves with a fish from a store, and lie to everyone is met with approval from hismom.
*** It's worth noting thatmom. Calvin's distate comes from experience; the first time that Calvin's Dad took his dad takes them camping, Calvin was he's interested and excited, only for it to rain torrentially the entire trip. Calvin's distaste comes from experience.trip.
**
** As for ''Calvin and Hobbes'', Calvin's suggestion that they go to a hotel, take a picture of themselves with a fish from a store, and lie to everyone is met with approval from his
*** It's worth noting that
Changed line(s) 149 (click to see context) from:
* Early 1970's children's show, ''Curiosity Shop''. An anthropomorphic groundhog puppet named Woodrow is trying to sleep until Groundhog Day. However, the terrible singing of another puppet character is keeping him awake. He complains to a young Pamelyn Ferdin that he dislikes music. What should she do in response? Why, tell him he's wrong, of course, and then immediately pull out a guitar and commence to singing "I Believe in Music" at the top of her lungs! Naturally, since the complainer ''is'' always wrong, Woodrow soon sees the error of his ways and peacefully falls asleep.
to:
* Early 1970's children's show, ''Curiosity Shop''. An anthropomorphic groundhog puppet named Woodrow is trying to sleep until Groundhog Day. However, the terrible singing of another puppet character is keeping him awake. He complains to a young Pamelyn Ferdin that he dislikes music. What should she do in response? Why, tell him he's wrong, of course, and then immediately pull out a guitar and commence to singing "I Believe in Music" at the top of her lungs! Naturally, since Since the complainer ''is'' always wrong, Woodrow soon sees the error of his ways and peacefully falls asleep.
Changed line(s) 152 (click to see context) from:
* Nearly every episode of ''Series/{{House}}'' has the team break into the patient's home; anyone who objects to these illegal searches comes across as paranoid or ungrateful. One episode had them break into a ''wrong'' house, as the patient turned out to be Romani and didn't have a permanent address, so he simply gave them a fake address. They break in and catch a couple having sex. They immediately assume that the guy is the owner of the house, and the woman is the maid, since she doesn't have a ring (and the guy does). Thus, they smugly threaten to expose the affair and casually mention that she's a terrible maid given the state of the kitchen. The woman then reveals it's ''her'' house, and the guy is her lover (although there is still an affair, given that he's married), and demands that they elaborate on the state of the kitchen. The doctors quickly run away before she can call the cops. Naturally, this is PlayedForLaughs.
to:
* Nearly every episode of ''Series/{{House}}'' has the team break into the patient's home; anyone who objects to these illegal searches comes across as paranoid or ungrateful. One episode had them break into a ''wrong'' house, as the patient turned out to be Romani and didn't have a permanent address, so he simply gave them a fake address. They break in and catch a couple having sex. They immediately assume that the guy is the owner of the house, and the woman is the maid, since she doesn't have a ring (and the guy does). Thus, they smugly threaten to expose the affair and casually mention that she's a terrible maid given the state of the kitchen. The woman then reveals it's ''her'' house, and the guy is her lover (although there is still an affair, given that he's married), and demands that they elaborate on the state of the kitchen. The doctors quickly run away before she can call the cops. Naturally, this This is PlayedForLaughs.
Changed line(s) 160 (click to see context) from:
** Surprising aversion in ''Series/PowerRangersRPM''. The way things usually work is for the Rangers to defend Corinth from one monster attack at a time, but newcomers Gem and Gemma are unimpressed, saying that they'd rather take the fight to the bad guys. They strike out on their own, and Scott, who couldn't get Colonel Truman to listen to his theory about the villains' real plan, goes with them. Naturally, the reckless rebels learn their lesson about going off on their own, right? [[spoiler:Wrong. The villains had found a way to suck the air out of the city through its force field, and with the shields powered as high as they were, they couldn't be powered down in time to save everyone. The outpost Gem and Gemma wanted to attack? Guess what it was being used for? Yeah. If not for the trio doing everything you're not supposed to do on Saturday morning TV, everyone in Corinth, the last human settlement on Earth, would be very dead by now.]]
to:
** Surprising aversion in ''Series/PowerRangersRPM''. The way things usually work is for the Rangers to defend Corinth from one monster attack at a time, but newcomers Gem and Gemma are unimpressed, saying that they'd rather take the fight to the bad guys. They strike out on their own, and Scott, who couldn't get Colonel Truman to listen to his theory about the villains' real plan, goes with them. Naturally, the The reckless rebels learn their lesson about going off on their own, right? [[spoiler:Wrong. The villains had found a way to suck the air out of the city through its force field, and with the shields powered as high as they were, they couldn't be powered down in time to save everyone. The outpost Gem and Gemma wanted to attack? Guess what it was being used for? Yeah. If not for the trio doing everything you're not supposed to do on Saturday morning TV, everyone in Corinth, the last human settlement on Earth, would be very dead by now.]]
Changed line(s) 165 (click to see context) from:
* ''Series/SamuraiGourmet'': Because the show involves so much JapanesePoliteness, this trope features prominently. If a character brings disharmony to the setting, you can be assured they will trigger the [[IndulgentFantasySegue samurai fantasy]]. Of course, once that's over, Kasumi is left to work out exactly how it applies to the real world. Sometimes [[FantasticAesop it doesn't]], or it's beyond Kasumi's audacity. Fortunately, in those cases, there's usually [[MakingTheChoiceForYou another solution]].
to:
* ''Series/SamuraiGourmet'': Because the show involves so much JapanesePoliteness, this trope features prominently. If a character brings disharmony to the setting, you can be assured they will trigger the [[IndulgentFantasySegue samurai fantasy]]. Of course, once Once that's over, Kasumi is left to work out exactly how it applies to the real world. Sometimes [[FantasticAesop it doesn't]], or it's beyond Kasumi's audacity. Fortunately, in those cases, there's usually [[MakingTheChoiceForYou another solution]].
Changed line(s) 187 (click to see context) from:
* Played for laughs in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'': L'Arachel and Dozla are both constantly happy and hyperactive, while Rennac is cynical and wants nothing to do with their adventures. Naturally, he always gets dragged along for the ride. [[spoiler:His ending hints that he eventually got used to them, though; his many escape attempts failed, but admittedly he didn't try very hard to get away in the first place.]] It might be part of it, however, that Rennac has [[StatisticallySpeaking absolutely terrible luck]].
to:
* Played for laughs in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'': L'Arachel and Dozla are both constantly happy and hyperactive, while Rennac is cynical and wants nothing to do with their adventures. Naturally, he He always gets dragged along for the ride. [[spoiler:His ending hints that he eventually got used to them, though; his many escape attempts failed, but admittedly he didn't try very hard to get away in the first place.]] It might be part of it, however, that Rennac has [[StatisticallySpeaking absolutely terrible luck]].
Changed line(s) 198 (click to see context) from:
* In ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' (Chapter 60: Paradise), [[{{Dystopia}} 4U City]] is built entirely around this notion, though the story itself hardly has this moral. Not only must everyone obey and agree, they are mandated to be happy all the time. If you wake up unhappy, you're given a drug injection, and this is repeated until you wake up happy. Most people are "happy" simply because they're drugged out of their minds. Any actual dissenters are tossed down the "Judgment Chutes" and never seen again. [[spoiler:In the end, there is no moral at all. It's revealed that the whole city is periodically "reset", and even the dead are brought back. It's just that the one ruler has higher priorities and can't be bothered with citizens.]]
to:
* In ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' (Chapter 60: Paradise), [[{{Dystopia}} 4U City]] is built entirely around this notion, though the story itself hardly has this moral. Not only must everyone obey and agree, they are mandated to be happy all the time. If you wake up unhappy, you're given a drug injection, and this is repeated until you wake up happy. Most people are "happy" simply because they're drugged out of their minds. Any actual dissenters are tossed down the "Judgment Chutes" and never seen again. [[spoiler:In the end, there is no moral at all. It's revealed that the whole city is periodically "reset", undoing all major changes up to and even the dead are brought back.including death. It's just that the one ruler has higher priorities and can't be bothered with citizens.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
By TRS decision
Evil Is Sexy is now a disambiguation page. Moving entries to appropriate tropes when possible.
Evil Is Sexy is now a disambiguation page. Moving entries to appropriate tropes when possible.Changed line(s) 199 (click to see context) from:
* Most pages of ''Webcomic/VeganArtbook'' go like this: [[EvilIsSexy Shawn]] says something about eating meat/farming/not being a vegan, one or more of the vegans show up and either beat him down with their words or, occasionally, their fists, Shawn is humiliated and beaten, rinse and repeat.
to:
* Most pages of ''Webcomic/VeganArtbook'' go like this: [[EvilIsSexy Shawn]] Shawn says something about eating meat/farming/not being a vegan, one or more of the vegans show up and either beat him down with their words or, occasionally, their fists, Shawn is humiliated and beaten, rinse and repeat.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 65 (click to see context) from:
[[folder:Comic Books]]
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 155 (click to see context) from:
* ''Series/LawAndOrderSVU'' frequently subverts this: whenever the majority of the detectives are convinced they have an open-and-shut case, except for one person who thinks something doesn't quite add up, you can almost always bet hard money that person will be proven right before the episode is out.
to:
* ''Series/LawAndOrderSVU'' frequently subverts this: whenever the majority of the detectives are convinced they have an open-and-shut case, OpenAndShutCase, except for one person who thinks something doesn't quite add up, you can almost always bet hard money that person will be proven right before the episode is out.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
*** It's worth noting that the first time that Calvin's Dad took them camping, Calvin was interested and excited, only for it to rain torrentially the entire trip. Calvin's distaste comes from experience.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 126 (click to see context) from:
** The quarrel over Aslan's visibility in ''Prince Caspian'' is an inversion. Lucy, the complainer, is right, and the rest of the group (minus Edmund, who decides not to be a prat this time) is wrong.
to:
** The quarrel over Aslan's visibility in ''Prince Caspian'' ''Literature/PrinceCaspian'' is an inversion. Lucy, the complainer, is right, and the rest of the group (minus Edmund, who decides not to be a prat this time) is wrong.
Changed line(s) 129 (click to see context) from:
** Inverted completely in ''The Silver Chair'' where Puddleglum, a complainer from a race of complainers, is also frequently right, including at a couple of very critical moments.
to:
** Inverted completely in ''The Silver Chair'' ''Literature/TheSilverChair'' where Puddleglum, a complainer from a race of complainers, is also frequently right, including at a couple of very critical moments.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 70 (click to see context) from:
** It was implied that Batman built Brother Eye and the OMAC Project as a direct result of him remembering the MindWipe Zatanna and other Justice League members performed on him when he caught them doing the same to Doctor Light during the ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis''.
to:
** It was implied that Batman built Brother Eye and the OMAC Project as a direct result of him remembering the MindWipe Zatanna and other Justice League members performed on him when he caught them doing the same to Doctor Light during the ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis''.''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis2004''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* In ''ComicBook/{{Chronin}}'', there are several, fairly minor supporting characters who from the ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shishi_(Japan) shishi]]'' movement, Japanese revolutionaries who overthrew the Tokugawa shogunate in the 1860s. Of these characters, Adachi is by far the most conservative and traditionalist, and can be counted on to ''always'' voice objections to the plans of the main characters, especially when they resort to measures like trying to ally with lower caste ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burakumin eta]]'' or treating women as equals, despite these being the only courses of action open to them. [[spoiler:He's also a spy for the shogunate.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Fixed a greenlink.
Changed line(s) 69 (click to see context) from:
* Could apply to Franchise/{{Batman}} in the buildup to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. He didn't trust Supergirl when she first arrived, he refused to believe Hal Jordan was a good person again, and then he built Brother Eye when he stopped trusting everyone - which came back to bite him in the ass ''hard''. And it's not the only time this happened to Batman (Granted, he has good reason to be distrustful but it gets taken up to eleven, and he has to 'learn' his lesson)
to:
* Could apply to Franchise/{{Batman}} in the buildup to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. He didn't trust Supergirl when she first arrived, he refused to believe Hal Jordan was a good person again, and then he built Brother Eye when he stopped trusting everyone - -- which came back to bite him in the ass ''hard''. And it's not the only time this happened to Batman (Granted, he has good reason to be distrustful but it gets taken up to eleven, and he has to 'learn' his lesson)
Changed line(s) 72 (click to see context) from:
* Given that Team ComicBook/IronMan won the Marvel ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', we're probably meant to assume this about ComicBook/CaptainAmerica.
to:
* Given that Team ComicBook/IronMan won the Marvel ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', ''ComicBook/CivilWar2006'', we're probably meant to assume this about ComicBook/CaptainAmerica.
Changed line(s) 76 (click to see context) from:
* Averted with Danny Donkey in ''ComicStrip/PearlsBeforeSwine''. It's like Rat - and by extension, Stephan Pastis - created him to be the antithesis of this trope by making the complainer be the "hero" of Rat's children's stories.
to:
* Averted with Danny Donkey in ''ComicStrip/PearlsBeforeSwine''. It's like Rat - -- and by extension, Stephan Pastis - -- created him to be the antithesis of this trope by making the complainer be the "hero" of Rat's children's stories.
Changed line(s) 81 (click to see context) from:
* Ace Ray of ''Fanfic/MyBravePonyStarfleetMagic'' falls into this. He gets kicked off the Wonderbolts for complaining about Starfleet and is portrayed as a loser who lounges around the house all day - even his own sister disagrees with him and has little sympathy. He ultimately ends up getting arrested after threatening to kill his sister in a fit of rage and is {{Brainwashed}} to like Starfleet.
to:
* Ace Ray of ''Fanfic/MyBravePonyStarfleetMagic'' falls into this. He gets kicked off the Wonderbolts for complaining about Starfleet and is portrayed as a loser who lounges around the house all day - -- even his own sister disagrees with him and has little sympathy. He ultimately ends up getting arrested after threatening to kill his sister in a fit of rage and is {{Brainwashed}} to like Starfleet.
Changed line(s) 139 (click to see context) from:
** Boromir in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' is the member of the Fellowship most likely to complain or or voice doubt at any given course of action--for instance, not using the Ring against Sauron, or passing over or under the mountains rather than around, and treating mannish nations like Gondor or Rohan as unreliable. It's implied that having his complaints ignored or overruled is at least part of the reason [[TheCorruption the Ring gets its claws into him]]. However, this is played with in that Boromir's complaints almost always bear at least a grain of truth in his eyes, and many of the Fellowship's decisions do have serious negative consequences--most of the time, they're trying to pick the least bad of several terrible options.
to:
** Boromir in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' is the member of the Fellowship most likely to complain or or voice doubt at any given course of action--for action -- for instance, not using the Ring against Sauron, or passing over or under the mountains rather than around, and treating mannish nations like Gondor or Rohan as unreliable. It's implied that having his complaints ignored or overruled is at least part of the reason [[TheCorruption the Ring gets its claws into him]]. However, this is played with in that Boromir's complaints almost always bear at least a grain of truth in his eyes, and many of the Fellowship's decisions do have serious negative consequences--most consequences -- most of the time, they're trying to pick the least bad of several terrible options.
Changed line(s) 149 (click to see context) from:
* Happens a lot to the main character of ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond''; Ray really can never win. [[ScyllaAndCharybdis He constantly gets caught as an unwilling participant in the never-ending battle for supremacy between his mother and his wife]], and no matter what he does to try and make peace, he can never please one without royally pissing off the other. Whenever Ray attempts to insinuate that the whole conflict is pointless and that the family should just make nice, either his overbearing mother will guilt-trip him and act like he's betrayed her, or his immature wife will throw a tantrum and beat him up. Or both. And even on one of the few occasions when his mom and wife made peace--so that they could send out a Christmas letter for the sole purpose of spiting a distant relative--Ray ''still'' ends up getting rebuked: he points out "This is Christmas!" and asserts that they really shouldn't be doing something nasty like this, especially at this time of year. His mom and wife jointly give him a death glare and scare him out of his kitchen.
to:
* Happens a lot to the main character of ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond''; Ray really can never win. [[ScyllaAndCharybdis He constantly gets caught as an unwilling participant in the never-ending battle for supremacy between his mother and his wife]], and no matter what he does to try and make peace, he can never please one without royally pissing off the other. Whenever Ray attempts to insinuate that the whole conflict is pointless and that the family should just make nice, either his overbearing mother will guilt-trip him and act like he's betrayed her, or his immature wife will throw a tantrum and beat him up. Or both. And even on one of the few occasions when his mom and wife made peace--so peace -- so that they could send out a Christmas letter for the sole purpose of spiting a distant relative--Ray relative -- Ray ''still'' ends up getting rebuked: he points out "This is Christmas!" and asserts that they really shouldn't be doing something nasty like this, especially at this time of year. His mom and wife jointly give him a death glare and scare him out of his kitchen.
Changed line(s) 166,167 (click to see context) from:
* This is part of why ''Series/TheWestWing'' got rid of the character Mandy at the end of the first season. She was supposed to bring pragmatism to the senior staff's idealistic views by arguing for the option that was easier to sell to the public. However, she would often be arguing for something objectively worse--e.g. staying with the Supreme Court nominee with an Ivy League background rather than the SelfMadeMan who actually agreed with Bartlet's views, because the former would be easier to sell. Inevitably, she would be overruled and the staff would take the moral high road.
* ''Series/WhoWantsToBeASuperhero'' kinda flip-flopped on this sort of thing. Both US seasons had a point where the entire team was given new costumes designed by Creator/StanLee himself -- except that one contestant got a really dorky-looking suit. In the first season, said contestant was eliminated because he wouldn't admit to Stan that he didn't like the costume; in the second, the contestant was eliminated because he ''did'' tell Stan that he didn't like it. Although in the first season, the problem was more that Ty'veculus, the contestant, claimed to like the suit but secretly complained about it to the others--Lee was more upset with the dishonesty than the dislike.
* ''Series/WhoWantsToBeASuperhero'' kinda flip-flopped on this sort of thing. Both US seasons had a point where the entire team was given new costumes designed by Creator/StanLee himself -- except that one contestant got a really dorky-looking suit. In the first season, said contestant was eliminated because he wouldn't admit to Stan that he didn't like the costume; in the second, the contestant was eliminated because he ''did'' tell Stan that he didn't like it. Although in the first season, the problem was more that Ty'veculus, the contestant, claimed to like the suit but secretly complained about it to the others--Lee was more upset with the dishonesty than the dislike.
to:
* This is part of why ''Series/TheWestWing'' got rid of the character Mandy at the end of the first season. She was supposed to bring pragmatism to the senior staff's idealistic views by arguing for the option that was easier to sell to the public. However, she would often be arguing for something objectively worse--e.worse -- e.g. staying with the Supreme Court nominee with an Ivy League background rather than the SelfMadeMan who actually agreed with Bartlet's views, because the former would be easier to sell. Inevitably, she would be overruled and the staff would take the moral high road.
* ''Series/WhoWantsToBeASuperhero'' kinda flip-flopped on this sort of thing. Both US seasons had a point where the entire team was given new costumes designed by Creator/StanLee himself -- except that one contestant got a really dorky-looking suit. In the first season, said contestant was eliminated because he wouldn't admit to Stan that he didn't like the costume; in the second, the contestant was eliminated because he ''did'' tell Stan that he didn't like it. Although in the first season, the problem was more that Ty'veculus, the contestant, claimed to like the suit but secretly complained about it to theothers--Lee others -- Lee was more upset with the dishonesty than the dislike.
* ''Series/WhoWantsToBeASuperhero'' kinda flip-flopped on this sort of thing. Both US seasons had a point where the entire team was given new costumes designed by Creator/StanLee himself -- except that one contestant got a really dorky-looking suit. In the first season, said contestant was eliminated because he wouldn't admit to Stan that he didn't like the costume; in the second, the contestant was eliminated because he ''did'' tell Stan that he didn't like it. Although in the first season, the problem was more that Ty'veculus, the contestant, claimed to like the suit but secretly complained about it to the
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Removing per here.
.Deleted line(s) 96 (click to see context) :
* In ''Film/AvengersEndgame'', [[ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Raccoon]] gives [[Characters/MarvelComicsCarolDanvers Captain Marvel]] a WhatTheHellHero for being absent for the fight against [[BigBad Thanos]] in the [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar previous film]]. Carol retorts that she was busy fighting guys just like Thanos all over the galaxy and Rocket backs down, in spite of the fact that nobody else was able to cause destruction [[OmnicidalManiac on a universal scale]] [[TheBadGuyWins like he did]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* In ''Film/AvengersEndgame'', [[ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Raccoon]] gives [[Characters/MarvelComicsCarolDanvers Captain Marvel]] a WhatTheHellHero for being absent for the fight against [[BigBad Thanos]] in the [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar previous film]]. Carol retorts that she was busy fighting guys just like Thanos all over the galaxy and Rocket backs down, in spite of the fact that nobody else was able to cause destruction [[OmnicidalManiac on a universal scale]] [[TheBadGuyWins like he did]].
Changed line(s) 98 (click to see context) from:
* ''Film/ChristmasWithTheKranks'' (faithful to its wonderfully DeadpanSnarker source novel by Creator/JohnGrisham): The titular characters are a middle-aged couple whose grown daughter Blair has joined the Peace Corps for a year-long mission in Peru. Luther Krank crunches the numbers and realizes that they spend, on average, over $6,000 ever December on Christmas celebrations. Since they have no reason to do so this year, he suggests to his wife Nora that they use that money to treat themselves to a Caribbean cruise vacation instead. Unfortunately, ''everyone in town'' is obsessed with Christmas to a disturbing degree, and they begin bullying, threatening, and outright committing crimes against the Kranks to force them to celebrate. It only gets worse when Blair surprises her parents on Christmas Eve morning with the news that she's coming home for Christmas after all, and can't wait for the annual party. The neighbors are then portrayed as saints for helping the Kranks put together a big bash despite the couple's earlier "evil" action of not wanting to spend thousands of dollars on the holiday.
to:
* ''Film/ChristmasWithTheKranks'' (faithful to its wonderfully DeadpanSnarker source novel by Creator/JohnGrisham): The titular characters are a middle-aged couple whose grown daughter Blair has joined the Peace Corps for a year-long mission in Peru. Luther Krank crunches the numbers and realizes that they spend, on average, over $6,000 ever every December on Christmas celebrations. Since they have no reason to do so this year, he suggests to his wife Nora that they use that money to treat themselves to a Caribbean cruise vacation instead. Unfortunately, ''everyone in town'' is obsessed with Christmas to a disturbing degree, and they begin bullying, threatening, and outright committing crimes against the Kranks to force them to celebrate. It only gets worse when Blair surprises her parents on Christmas Eve morning with the news that she's coming home for Christmas after all, and can't wait for the annual party. The neighbors are then portrayed as saints for helping the Kranks put together a big bash despite the couple's earlier "evil" action of not wanting to spend thousands of dollars on the holiday.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 184 (click to see context) from:
** However, the UpdatedRerelease can end up averting this depending on the player's choices; [[spoiler:while God does [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere abandon humanity in his disappointment in humanity not rising to the challenge he presented]], so to does the last remaining Bel demon Belberith leave to chase after God. With the barrier between worlds restored, this ends up resulting in a world where humans have control over their own destiny without the meddling of either Heaven or demons]]. The complainer ended up being right after all.
to:
** However, the UpdatedRerelease can end up averting subverting this depending on the player's choices; [[spoiler:while God does [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere abandon humanity in his due to His disappointment in humanity not rising to the challenge he He presented]], so to too does the last remaining Bel demon Belberith leave who leaves to chase after God. With the barrier between worlds restored, this ends up resulting in a world where humans have control over their own destiny without the meddling of either Heaven or demons]]. The In the end, the complainer ended up being right after all.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** However, the UpdatedRerelease can end up averting this depending on the player's choices; [[spoiler:while God does [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere abandon humanity in his disappointment in humanity not rising to the challenge he presented]], so to does the last remaining Bel demon Belberith leave to chase after God. With the barrier between worlds restored, this ends up resulting in a world where humans have control over their own destiny without the meddling of either Heaven or demons]]. The complainer ended up being right after all.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 124 (click to see context) from:
* In the ''Literature/ChroniclesOfNarnia'', complaining in the form of failing to maintain a StiffUpperLip is always discouraged (which is fair enough, since the situation is often dire). There's also Trumpkin with regards to the existence of Aslan and many more. There are also instances of the complainer being right, though.
to:
* In the ''Literature/ChroniclesOfNarnia'', ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', complaining in the form of failing to maintain a StiffUpperLip is always discouraged (which is fair enough, since the situation is often dire). There's also Trumpkin with regards to the existence of Aslan and many more. There are also instances of the complainer being right, though.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 55 (click to see context) from:
* In ''LightNovel/NoGameNoLife'', this tends to happen to Stephanie "Steph" Dola.
to:
* In ''LightNovel/NoGameNoLife'', ''Literature/NoGameNoLife'', this tends to happen to Stephanie "Steph" Dola.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
[[index]]
Changed line(s) 26 (click to see context) from:
to:
[[/index]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Alphabetized examples.
%%%
%%
%% This page has been alphabetized. Please add new examples in the correct order. Thanks!
%%
%%%
%%
%% This page has been alphabetized. Please add new examples in the correct order. Thanks!
%%
%%%
Deleted line(s) 24,26 (click to see context) :
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNddW2xmZp8 An old Oscar Meyer commercial]] starts with a group of children singing the old "I wish I were an Oscar Meyer wiener" song. Then it shows a boy singing his own version, informing the world at large just how glad he is that he is not an Oscar Meyer wiener, and therefore will not be eaten. He trails off as all the other children turn to glare at him, and then he joins them singing it the right way.
* Creator/JimHenson created some puppet characters to advertise Advertising/WilkinsCoffee. One was called Wilkins and one was called Wontkins. Wilkins would go on about how wonderful coffee was and would offer some to Wontkins, who would refuse. Wilkins would then shoot Wontkins with a cannon or drop something heavy on him. In one ad that seems more like "The Complainer Must DIE!", Wilkins ''erased Wontkins from existence'' before cryptically saying to the camera, "If you don't like Wilkins, you don't go anywhere!"
* Environmentalism group 10:10 Global produced an ad called [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOmLcSeU2UY No Pressure]] in which a variety of people (teachers, bosses, etc.), asked their respective groups to come up with ideas for a new green initiative or contribute to it. "No pressure," they assure everyone. There's usually one or two dissenters... who are then ''blown up''. [[NightmareFuel Not in a cartoonish way, either, but in a shower of blood and guts]]. [[WouldHurtAChild Children included]]. Somehow it was written, pitched, filmed, produced and released without anyone wondering "will this be seen as violent or threatening?" Needless to say, it was seen as being in poor taste, and taken down. [[NeverLiveItDown But the Internet is forever...]]
* Creator/JimHenson created some puppet characters to advertise Advertising/WilkinsCoffee. One was called Wilkins and one was called Wontkins. Wilkins would go on about how wonderful coffee was and would offer some to Wontkins, who would refuse. Wilkins would then shoot Wontkins with a cannon or drop something heavy on him. In one ad that seems more like "The Complainer Must DIE!", Wilkins ''erased Wontkins from existence'' before cryptically saying to the camera, "If you don't like Wilkins, you don't go anywhere!"
* Environmentalism group 10:10 Global produced an ad called [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOmLcSeU2UY No Pressure]] in which a variety of people (teachers, bosses, etc.), asked their respective groups to come up with ideas for a new green initiative or contribute to it. "No pressure," they assure everyone. There's usually one or two dissenters... who are then ''blown up''. [[NightmareFuel Not in a cartoonish way, either, but in a shower of blood and guts]]. [[WouldHurtAChild Children included]]. Somehow it was written, pitched, filmed, produced and released without anyone wondering "will this be seen as violent or threatening?" Needless to say, it was seen as being in poor taste, and taken down. [[NeverLiveItDown But the Internet is forever...]]
* Environmentalism group 10:10 Global produced an ad called [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOmLcSeU2UY No Pressure]] in which a variety of people (teachers, bosses, etc.), asked their respective groups to come up with ideas for a new green initiative or contribute to it. "No pressure," they assure everyone. There's usually one or two dissenters... who are then ''blown up''. [[NightmareFuel Not in a cartoonish way, either, but in a shower of blood and guts]]. [[WouldHurtAChild Children included]]. Somehow it was written, pitched, filmed, produced and released without anyone wondering "will this be seen as violent or threatening?" Needless to say, it was seen as being in poor taste, and taken down. [[NeverLiveItDown But the Internet is forever...]]
Changed line(s) 34 (click to see context) from:
'''Hafthor:''' Everybody. (grins)
to:
'''Hafthor:''' Everybody. (grins)''(grins)''
* Creator/JimHenson created some puppet characters to advertise Advertising/WilkinsCoffee. One was called Wilkins and one was called Wontkins. Wilkins would go on about how wonderful coffee was and would offer some to Wontkins, who would refuse. Wilkins would then shoot Wontkins with a cannon or drop something heavy on him. In one ad that seems more like "The Complainer Must DIE!", Wilkins ''erased Wontkins from existence'' before cryptically saying to the camera, "If you don't like Wilkins, you don't go anywhere!"
* Creator/JimHenson created some puppet characters to advertise Advertising/WilkinsCoffee. One was called Wilkins and one was called Wontkins. Wilkins would go on about how wonderful coffee was and would offer some to Wontkins, who would refuse. Wilkins would then shoot Wontkins with a cannon or drop something heavy on him. In one ad that seems more like "The Complainer Must DIE!", Wilkins ''erased Wontkins from existence'' before cryptically saying to the camera, "If you don't like Wilkins, you don't go anywhere!"
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNddW2xmZp8 An old Oscar Meyer commercial]] starts with a group of children singing the old "I wish I were an Oscar Meyer wiener" song. Then it shows a boy singing his own version, informing the world at large just how glad he is that he is not an Oscar Meyer wiener, and therefore will not be eaten. He trails off as all the other children turn to glare at him, and then he joins them singing it the right way.
Deleted line(s) 39 (click to see context) :
* Subverted in ''Manga/ShadowStar''. The Complainer is a girl named Miyoko Shitou who is a part of a group of girls, led by [[AlphaBitch Aki Honda]], that bully the local LonelyRichKid, therefore she's a complainer who's actually ''right''. [[spoiler:And she's the only one of the group who survives said LonelyRichKid's reprisal when she gets her Shadow Dragon.]]
* Downplayed in ''Manga/BloomIntoYou''. Touko is the only student council member who says she'd rather not change the ending of the play, and while she does suggest that there are practical concerns in re-learning the new scenes, she's implied to have been motivated by personal reasons. She ultimately agrees to at least give the new play a try, though.
* Between himself and his best friend Suzaku and dear sister Nunnally, it sure feels like this for Lelouch of ''Anime/CodeGeass''. Taken to even greater heights in Turn 19 of R2 during Schneizel's meeting with the Black Knights; first with Tamaki and Diethard, who contend that [[spoiler:anyone could have faked the recording]], and after everyone has made up their minds, Kallen, [[spoiler:who in an attempt to protect Zero from his would-be traitors, calls her fellow comrades out on being too one-sided, only to be warned to get out of the way or be shot down on suspicion of being geassed. Lelouch ends up lying to her in order for her life to be spared]]. The following episode, Diethard's earlier attempt to rein in an AWOL Ohgi by holding Villetta, the one responsible, captive, ended up with him getting a few bruises, and complaining to himself that Ohgi, who remains on the Black Knights and is now joined by Villetta, is miscast as a leader.
** The third CompilationMovie's take on these events have Ohgi fall under this when [[spoiler:he wants to give Zero a chance to explain himself and tell the truth, and objects to Schneizel's men preparing to shoot until they actually have their answers]]. He and Viletta also have a point with Deithard above considering he really was doing a couple of stuff behind their backs, including [[AdaptationDistillation how in this version]], he was the one who shot her and caused her amnesia that led to them meeting in the first place.
* Between himself and his best friend Suzaku and dear sister Nunnally, it sure feels like this for Lelouch of ''Anime/CodeGeass''. Taken to even greater heights in Turn 19 of R2 during Schneizel's meeting with the Black Knights; first with Tamaki and Diethard, who contend that [[spoiler:anyone could have faked the recording]], and after everyone has made up their minds, Kallen, [[spoiler:who in an attempt to protect Zero from his would-be traitors, calls her fellow comrades out on being too one-sided, only to be warned to get out of the way or be shot down on suspicion of being geassed. Lelouch ends up lying to her in order for her life to be spared]]. The following episode, Diethard's earlier attempt to rein in an AWOL Ohgi by holding Villetta, the one responsible, captive, ended up with him getting a few bruises, and complaining to himself that Ohgi, who remains on the Black Knights and is now joined by Villetta, is miscast as a leader.
** The third CompilationMovie's take on these events have Ohgi fall under this when [[spoiler:he wants to give Zero a chance to explain himself and tell the truth, and objects to Schneizel's men preparing to shoot until they actually have their answers]]. He and Viletta also have a point with Deithard above considering he really was doing a couple of stuff behind their backs, including [[AdaptationDistillation how in this version]], he was the one who shot her and caused her amnesia that led to them meeting in the first place.
Changed line(s) 42,44 (click to see context) from:
* In ''Anime/GatchamanCrowds Insight'', [[spoiler: the Kuus start enforcing this on society in general. And not only is the complainer wrong, (s)he gets ''eaten''.]]
* This trope seemed to become a running gag in ''Anime/SonicX'', a recurring situation would come in which Knuckles would object to a team mission plan, usually leading the gang to use peer pressure and goad his ego and bravery until he gave in (just for ComedicSociopathy humor, even normally sweet characters like [[{{Moe}} Cream]] or unrelated background ones would join in bullying the poor guy). This was only worsened by the fact that a lot of times [[StrawmanHasAPoint he turned out to be right to doubt their plans]] (like the idea of gambling a Chaos Emerald in a baseball game that Eggman surely wouldn't cheat in) yet oddly Knuckles rarely ever called them out on it nor did [[BecauseISaidSo they really give much of an argument against it]] outside that [[MilesGloriosus he was a gutless hack]] for not agreeing to go along with their plan. Despite this the gang also spent a lot of time explaining to Knuckles how he shouldn't constantly fall for Eggman manipulating or tricking him into working for him.
* Snagglebit from ''Anime/TheLittlBits'' comes off as this sometimes, but the show tries not to make him look like a whiny prick or go out of its way to humiliate him into learning his lesson.
* This trope seemed to become a running gag in ''Anime/SonicX'', a recurring situation would come in which Knuckles would object to a team mission plan, usually leading the gang to use peer pressure and goad his ego and bravery until he gave in (just for ComedicSociopathy humor, even normally sweet characters like [[{{Moe}} Cream]] or unrelated background ones would join in bullying the poor guy). This was only worsened by the fact that a lot of times [[StrawmanHasAPoint he turned out to be right to doubt their plans]] (like the idea of gambling a Chaos Emerald in a baseball game that Eggman surely wouldn't cheat in) yet oddly Knuckles rarely ever called them out on it nor did [[BecauseISaidSo they really give much of an argument against it]] outside that [[MilesGloriosus he was a gutless hack]] for not agreeing to go along with their plan. Despite this the gang also spent a lot of time explaining to Knuckles how he shouldn't constantly fall for Eggman manipulating or tricking him into working for him.
* Snagglebit from ''Anime/TheLittlBits'' comes off as this sometimes, but the show tries not to make him look like a whiny prick or go out of its way to humiliate him into learning his lesson.
to:
* In ''Anime/GatchamanCrowds Insight'', [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Kuus start enforcing this on society in general. And not only is the complainer wrong, (s)he gets ''eaten''.]]
* This trope seemed to become a running gag in ''Anime/SonicX'', a recurring situation would come in which Knuckles would object to a team mission plan, usually leading the gang to use peer pressure and goad his ego and bravery until he gave in (just for ComedicSociopathy humor, even normally sweet characters like [[{{Moe}} Cream]] or unrelated background ones would join in bullying the poor guy). This was only worsened by the fact that a lot of times [[StrawmanHasAPoint he turned out to be right to doubt their plans]] (like the idea of gambling a Chaos Emerald in a baseball game that Eggman surely wouldn't cheat in) yet oddly Knuckles rarely ever called them out on it nor did [[BecauseISaidSo they really give much of an argument against it]] outside that [[MilesGloriosus he was a gutless hack]] for not agreeing to go along with their plan. Despite this the gang also spent a lot of time explaining to Knuckles how he shouldn't constantly fall for Eggman manipulating or tricking him into working for him.
* Snagglebit from ''Anime/TheLittlBits'' comes off as this sometimes, but the show tries not to make him look like a whiny prick or go out of its way to humiliate him into learning his lesson.''eaten'']].
* This trope seemed to become a running gag in ''Anime/SonicX'', a recurring situation would come in which Knuckles would object to a team mission plan, usually leading the gang to use peer pressure and goad his ego and bravery until he gave in (just for ComedicSociopathy humor, even normally sweet characters like [[{{Moe}} Cream]] or unrelated background ones would join in bullying the poor guy). This was only worsened by the fact that a lot of times [[StrawmanHasAPoint he turned out to be right to doubt their plans]] (like the idea of gambling a Chaos Emerald in a baseball game that Eggman surely wouldn't cheat in) yet oddly Knuckles rarely ever called them out on it nor did [[BecauseISaidSo they really give much of an argument against it]] outside that [[MilesGloriosus he was a gutless hack]] for not agreeing to go along with their plan. Despite this the gang also spent a lot of time explaining to Knuckles how he shouldn't constantly fall for Eggman manipulating or tricking him into working for him.
* Snagglebit from ''Anime/TheLittlBits'' comes off as this sometimes, but the show tries not to make him look like a whiny prick or go out of its way to humiliate him into learning his lesson.
Changed line(s) 46,51 (click to see context) from:
* Between himself and his best friend Suzaku and dear sister Nunnally, it sure feels like this for Lelouch of ''Anime/CodeGeass''. Taken to even greater heights in Turn 19 of R2 during Schneizel's meeting with the Black Knights; first with Tamaki and Diethard, who contend that [[spoiler:anyone could have faked the recording]], and after everyone has made up their minds, Kallen, [[spoiler:who in an attempt to protect Zero from his would-be traitors, calls her fellow comrades out on being too one-sided, only to be warned to get out of the way or be shot down on suspicion of being geassed. Lelouch ends up lying to her in order for her life to be spared.]] The following episode, Diethard's earlier attempt to rein in an AWOL Ohgi by holding Villetta, the one responsible, captive, ended up with him getting a few bruises, and complaining to himself that Ohgi, who remains on the Black Knights and is now joined by Villetta, is miscast as a leader.
** The third CompilationMovie's take on these events have Ohgi fall under this when [[spoiler: he wants to give Zero a chance to explain himself and tell the truth, and objects to Schneizel's men preparing to shoot until they actually have their answers.]] He and Viletta also have a point with Deithard above considering he really was doing a couple of stuff behind their backs, including [[AdaptationDistillation how in this version]], he was the one who shot her and caused her amnesia that led to them meeting in the first place.
* In the ''Manga/YuGiOh'' manga Kaiba tried to murder Yugi and his friends in several ways, two of them involving a torturer and a serial killer. Even after this Kaiba still belittles and insults Yugi's friends whenever they meet. Jounouchi is apparently the only one to show suspicion or unwillingness to help Kaiba and he is always wrong for doing so.
* Downplayed in ''Manga/BloomIntoYou''. Touko is the only student council member who says she'd rather not change the ending of the play, and while she does suggest that there are practical concerns in re-learning the new scenes, she's implied to have been motivated by personal reasons. She ultimately agrees to at least give the new play a try, though.
* In ''Manga/YourLieInApril,'' the protagonist, Kousei, was put off playing piano because his mother used to violently beat him whenever he made the smallest mistakes. This doesn't stop Kaori and Tsubaki from harassing him into playing again. As the series progresses, Kousei's childhood is painted as him just making excuses.
* Subverted in ''Anime/SakuraQuest''. In Episode 23, the Manoyama board of merchants discusses leasing out one of the many closed shops in the shopping district to a chain establishment that wants to expand into town. Akiyama, the former owner of a supermarket, not only has an establishment that could be used for that purpose, but isn't even living above the shop (unlike other owners), but he refuses to rent it out. The rest of the board of merchants(some of whom had also refused to rent out their establishments) tries to browbeat him into renting his shop, but he refuses, and Yoshino ultimately speaks up for him. It turns out that [[spoiler:he had rented his property out to an outsider before, only for the outsider to skip town and leave him hanging as the guarantor of the loan]], something that [[SecretKeeper only Chitose knows]]. After hearing this, the others apologize, and one of the other business owners rents his establishment instead, saying his concerns about having to smell the food from downstairs are petty in comparison.
** The third CompilationMovie's take on these events have Ohgi fall under this when [[spoiler: he wants to give Zero a chance to explain himself and tell the truth, and objects to Schneizel's men preparing to shoot until they actually have their answers.]] He and Viletta also have a point with Deithard above considering he really was doing a couple of stuff behind their backs, including [[AdaptationDistillation how in this version]], he was the one who shot her and caused her amnesia that led to them meeting in the first place.
* In the ''Manga/YuGiOh'' manga Kaiba tried to murder Yugi and his friends in several ways, two of them involving a torturer and a serial killer. Even after this Kaiba still belittles and insults Yugi's friends whenever they meet. Jounouchi is apparently the only one to show suspicion or unwillingness to help Kaiba and he is always wrong for doing so.
* Downplayed in ''Manga/BloomIntoYou''. Touko is the only student council member who says she'd rather not change the ending of the play, and while she does suggest that there are practical concerns in re-learning the new scenes, she's implied to have been motivated by personal reasons. She ultimately agrees to at least give the new play a try, though.
* In ''Manga/YourLieInApril,'' the protagonist, Kousei, was put off playing piano because his mother used to violently beat him whenever he made the smallest mistakes. This doesn't stop Kaori and Tsubaki from harassing him into playing again. As the series progresses, Kousei's childhood is painted as him just making excuses.
* Subverted in ''Anime/SakuraQuest''. In Episode 23, the Manoyama board of merchants discusses leasing out one of the many closed shops in the shopping district to a chain establishment that wants to expand into town. Akiyama, the former owner of a supermarket, not only has an establishment that could be used for that purpose, but isn't even living above the shop (unlike other owners), but he refuses to rent it out. The rest of the board of merchants(some of whom had also refused to rent out their establishments) tries to browbeat him into renting his shop, but he refuses, and Yoshino ultimately speaks up for him. It turns out that [[spoiler:he had rented his property out to an outsider before, only for the outsider to skip town and leave him hanging as the guarantor of the loan]], something that [[SecretKeeper only Chitose knows]]. After hearing this, the others apologize, and one of the other business owners rents his establishment instead, saying his concerns about having to smell the food from downstairs are petty in comparison.
to:
* Between himself and his best friend Suzaku and dear sister Nunnally, it sure feels Snagglebit from ''Anime/TheLittlBits'' comes off as this sometimes, but the show tries not to make him look like this for Lelouch of ''Anime/CodeGeass''. Taken to even greater heights in Turn 19 of R2 during Schneizel's meeting with the Black Knights; first with Tamaki and Diethard, who contend that [[spoiler:anyone could have faked the recording]], and after everyone has made up their minds, Kallen, [[spoiler:who in an attempt to protect Zero from his would-be traitors, calls her fellow comrades out on being too one-sided, only to be warned to get a whiny prick or go out of the its way or be shot down on suspicion of being geassed. Lelouch ends up lying to her in order for her life to be spared.]] The following episode, Diethard's earlier attempt to rein in an AWOL Ohgi by holding Villetta, the one responsible, captive, ended up with him getting a few bruises, and complaining to himself that Ohgi, who remains on the Black Knights and is now joined by Villetta, is miscast as a leader.
** The third CompilationMovie's take on these events have Ohgi fall under this when [[spoiler: he wants to give Zero a chance to explain himself and tell the truth, and objects to Schneizel's men preparing to shoot until they actually have their answers.]] He and Viletta also have a point with Deithard above considering he really was doing a couple of stuff behind their backs, including [[AdaptationDistillation how in this version]], he was the one who shot her and caused her amnesia that led to them meeting in the first place.
* In the ''Manga/YuGiOh'' manga Kaiba tried to murder Yugi and his friends in several ways, two of them involving a torturer and a serial killer. Even after this Kaiba still belittles and insults Yugi's friends whenever they meet. Jounouchi is apparently the only one to show suspicion or unwillingness to help Kaiba and he is always wrong for doing so.
* Downplayed in ''Manga/BloomIntoYou''. Touko is the only student council member who says she'd rather not change the ending of the play, and while she does suggest that there are practical concerns in re-learning the new scenes, she's implied to have been motivated by personal reasons. She ultimately agrees to at least give the new play a try, though.
* In ''Manga/YourLieInApril,'' the protagonist, Kousei, was put off playing piano because his mother used to violently beat him whenever he made the smallest mistakes. This doesn't stop Kaori and Tsubaki from harassinghumiliate him into playing again. As the series progresses, Kousei's childhood is painted as him just making excuses.
* Subverted in ''Anime/SakuraQuest''. In Episode 23, the Manoyama board of merchants discusses leasing out one of the many closed shops in the shopping district to a chain establishment that wants to expand into town. Akiyama, the former owner of a supermarket, not only has an establishment that could be used for that purpose, but isn't even living above the shop (unlike other owners), but he refuses to rent it out. The rest of the board of merchants(some of whom had also refused to rent out their establishments) tries to browbeat him into rentinglearning his shop, but he refuses, and Yoshino ultimately speaks up for him. It turns out that [[spoiler:he had rented his property out to an outsider before, only for the outsider to skip town and leave him hanging as the guarantor of the loan]], something that [[SecretKeeper only Chitose knows]]. After hearing this, the others apologize, and one of the other business owners rents his establishment instead, saying his concerns about having to smell the food from downstairs are petty in comparison.lesson.
** The third CompilationMovie's take on these events have Ohgi fall under this when [[spoiler: he wants to give Zero a chance to explain himself and tell the truth, and objects to Schneizel's men preparing to shoot until they actually have their answers.]] He and Viletta also have a point with Deithard above considering he really was doing a couple of stuff behind their backs, including [[AdaptationDistillation how in this version]], he was the one who shot her and caused her amnesia that led to them meeting in the first place.
* In the ''Manga/YuGiOh'' manga Kaiba tried to murder Yugi and his friends in several ways, two of them involving a torturer and a serial killer. Even after this Kaiba still belittles and insults Yugi's friends whenever they meet. Jounouchi is apparently the only one to show suspicion or unwillingness to help Kaiba and he is always wrong for doing so.
* Downplayed in ''Manga/BloomIntoYou''. Touko is the only student council member who says she'd rather not change the ending of the play, and while she does suggest that there are practical concerns in re-learning the new scenes, she's implied to have been motivated by personal reasons. She ultimately agrees to at least give the new play a try, though.
* In ''Manga/YourLieInApril,'' the protagonist, Kousei, was put off playing piano because his mother used to violently beat him whenever he made the smallest mistakes. This doesn't stop Kaori and Tsubaki from harassing
* Subverted in ''Anime/SakuraQuest''. In Episode 23, the Manoyama board of merchants discusses leasing out one of the many closed shops in the shopping district to a chain establishment that wants to expand into town. Akiyama, the former owner of a supermarket, not only has an establishment that could be used for that purpose, but isn't even living above the shop (unlike other owners), but he refuses to rent it out. The rest of the board of merchants(some of whom had also refused to rent out their establishments) tries to browbeat him into renting
* Subverted in ''Anime/SakuraQuest''. In Episode 23, the Manoyama board of merchants discusses leasing out one of the many closed shops in the shopping district to a chain establishment that wants to expand into town. Akiyama, the former owner of a supermarket, not only has an establishment that could be used for that purpose, but isn't even living above the shop (unlike other owners), but he refuses to rent it out. The rest of the board of merchants(some of whom had also refused to rent out their establishments) tries to browbeat him into renting his shop, but he refuses, and Yoshino ultimately speaks up for him. It turns out that [[spoiler:he had rented his property out to an outsider before, only for the outsider to skip town and leave him hanging as the guarantor of the loan]], something that [[SecretKeeper only Chitose knows]]. After hearing this, the others apologize, and one of the other business owners rents his establishment instead, saying his concerns about having to smell the food from downstairs are petty in comparison.
* Subverted in ''Manga/ShadowStar''. The Complainer is a girl named Miyoko Shitou who is a part of a group of girls, led by [[AlphaBitch Aki Honda]], that bully the local LonelyRichKid, therefore she's a complainer who's actually ''right''. [[spoiler:And she's the only one of the group who survives said LonelyRichKid's reprisal when she gets her Shadow Dragon.]]
* This trope seemed to become a running gag in ''Anime/SonicX'', a recurring situation would come in which Knuckles would object to a team mission plan, usually leading the gang to use peer pressure and goad his ego and bravery until he gave in (just for ComedicSociopathy humor, even normally sweet characters like [[{{Moe}} Cream]] or unrelated background ones would join in bullying the poor guy). This was only worsened by the fact that a lot of times [[StrawmanHasAPoint he turned out to be right to doubt their plans]] (like the idea of gambling a Chaos Emerald in a baseball game that Eggman surely wouldn't cheat in) yet oddly Knuckles rarely ever called them out on it nor did [[BecauseISaidSo they really give much of an argument against it]] outside that [[MilesGloriosus he was a gutless hack]] for not agreeing to go along with their plan. Despite this the gang also spent a lot of time explaining to Knuckles how he shouldn't constantly fall for Eggman manipulating or tricking him into working for him.
* In ''Manga/YourLieInApril'', the protagonist, Kousei, was put off playing piano because his mother used to violently beat him whenever he made the smallest mistakes. This doesn't stop Kaori and Tsubaki from harassing him into playing again. As the series progresses, Kousei's childhood is painted as him just making excuses.
* In the ''Manga/YuGiOh'' manga Kaiba tried to murder Yugi and his friends in several ways, two of them involving a torturer and a serial killer. Even after this Kaiba still belittles and insults Yugi's friends whenever they meet. Jounouchi is apparently the only one to show suspicion or unwillingness to help Kaiba and he is always wrong for doing so.
* Subverted in ''Manga/ShadowStar''. The Complainer is a girl named Miyoko Shitou who is a part of a group of girls, led by [[AlphaBitch Aki Honda]], that bully the local LonelyRichKid, therefore she's a complainer who's actually ''right''. [[spoiler:And she's the only one of the group who survives said LonelyRichKid's reprisal when she gets her Shadow Dragon.]]
* This trope seemed to become a running gag in ''Anime/SonicX'', a recurring situation would come in which Knuckles would object to a team mission plan, usually leading the gang to use peer pressure and goad his ego and bravery until he gave in (just for ComedicSociopathy humor, even normally sweet characters like [[{{Moe}} Cream]] or unrelated background ones would join in bullying the poor guy). This was only worsened by the fact that a lot of times [[StrawmanHasAPoint he turned out to be right to doubt their plans]] (like the idea of gambling a Chaos Emerald in a baseball game that Eggman surely wouldn't cheat in) yet oddly Knuckles rarely ever called them out on it nor did [[BecauseISaidSo they really give much of an argument against it]] outside that [[MilesGloriosus he was a gutless hack]] for not agreeing to go along with their plan. Despite this the gang also spent a lot of time explaining to Knuckles how he shouldn't constantly fall for Eggman manipulating or tricking him into working for him.
* In ''Manga/YourLieInApril'', the protagonist, Kousei, was put off playing piano because his mother used to violently beat him whenever he made the smallest mistakes. This doesn't stop Kaori and Tsubaki from harassing him into playing again. As the series progresses, Kousei's childhood is painted as him just making excuses.
* In the ''Manga/YuGiOh'' manga Kaiba tried to murder Yugi and his friends in several ways, two of them involving a torturer and a serial killer. Even after this Kaiba still belittles and insults Yugi's friends whenever they meet. Jounouchi is apparently the only one to show suspicion or unwillingness to help Kaiba and he is always wrong for doing so.
Deleted line(s) 58,64 (click to see context) :
* Given that Team ComicBook/IronMan won the Marvel ComicBook/CivilWar, we're probably meant to assume this about ComicBook/CaptainAmerica.
** It helps that he was finally "[[EpiphanyTherapy convinced]]" not to kill Iron Man and lay down arms by being team [[{{Anvilicious}} tackled by a policeman, paramedic, firefighter, and soldier (who were ethnically diverse, at that)]] by showing him the Hulk-level destruction their fighting was causing.
** The storyline seemed to be originally intended to be a bit ambiguous about who's right. Then there was ExecutiveMeddling and a WriterRevolt, as everyone making the comics picked their preferred side and tried to make them the "obviously good" side. Now we've got an accidentally ambiguous storyline that nobody intended to be ambiguous. Mark Millar, who wrote the main series, seems to hold Americans in contempt and believe that having fascists win is what the audience wanted to see.
** And they've now just thrown up their hands, said screw it and reached for the ResetButton. [[spoiler:Iron Man committed what amounts to suicide by putting himself into a PVS and having his memory restored from a back-up made some (so far) indeterminate length of time pre-civil war, Captain America is back and doesn't want to talk about it and, apparently, the US President has power to repeal the Superhuman Registration Act, [[ArtisticLicenseLaw an act of congress]], overnight on a whim.]]
* Could apply to Franchise/{{Batman}} in the buildup to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. He didn't trust Supergirl when she first arrived, he refused to believe Hal Jordan was a good person again, and then he built Brother Eye when he stopped trusting everyone - which came back to bite him in the ass ''hard''. And it's not the only time this happened to Batman (Granted, he has good reason to be distrustful but it gets taken up to eleven, and he has to 'learn' his lesson)
** It was implied that Batman built Brother Eye and the OMAC Project as a direct result of him remembering the MindWipe Zatanna and other Justice League members performed on him when he caught them doing the same to Doctor Light during the ComicBook/IdentityCrisis.
** It started with Batman getting kicked out of the League temporarily for having secretly devised contingencies to defeat each current member. It was meant to deconstruct his CrazyPrepared reputation but being paranoid became his new default.
** It helps that he was finally "[[EpiphanyTherapy convinced]]" not to kill Iron Man and lay down arms by being team [[{{Anvilicious}} tackled by a policeman, paramedic, firefighter, and soldier (who were ethnically diverse, at that)]] by showing him the Hulk-level destruction their fighting was causing.
** The storyline seemed to be originally intended to be a bit ambiguous about who's right. Then there was ExecutiveMeddling and a WriterRevolt, as everyone making the comics picked their preferred side and tried to make them the "obviously good" side. Now we've got an accidentally ambiguous storyline that nobody intended to be ambiguous. Mark Millar, who wrote the main series, seems to hold Americans in contempt and believe that having fascists win is what the audience wanted to see.
** And they've now just thrown up their hands, said screw it and reached for the ResetButton. [[spoiler:Iron Man committed what amounts to suicide by putting himself into a PVS and having his memory restored from a back-up made some (so far) indeterminate length of time pre-civil war, Captain America is back and doesn't want to talk about it and, apparently, the US President has power to repeal the Superhuman Registration Act, [[ArtisticLicenseLaw an act of congress]], overnight on a whim.]]
* Could apply to Franchise/{{Batman}} in the buildup to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. He didn't trust Supergirl when she first arrived, he refused to believe Hal Jordan was a good person again, and then he built Brother Eye when he stopped trusting everyone - which came back to bite him in the ass ''hard''. And it's not the only time this happened to Batman (Granted, he has good reason to be distrustful but it gets taken up to eleven, and he has to 'learn' his lesson)
** It was implied that Batman built Brother Eye and the OMAC Project as a direct result of him remembering the MindWipe Zatanna and other Justice League members performed on him when he caught them doing the same to Doctor Light during the ComicBook/IdentityCrisis.
** It started with Batman getting kicked out of the League temporarily for having secretly devised contingencies to defeat each current member. It was meant to deconstruct his CrazyPrepared reputation but being paranoid became his new default.
* Could apply to Franchise/{{Batman}} in the buildup to ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. He didn't trust Supergirl when she first arrived, he refused to believe Hal Jordan was a good person again, and then he built Brother Eye when he stopped trusting everyone - which came back to bite him in the ass ''hard''. And it's not the only time this happened to Batman (Granted, he has good reason to be distrustful but it gets taken up to eleven, and he has to 'learn' his lesson)
** It was implied that Batman built Brother Eye and the OMAC Project as a direct result of him remembering the MindWipe Zatanna and other Justice League members performed on him when he caught them doing the same to Doctor Light during the ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis''.
** It started with Batman getting kicked out of the League temporarily for having secretly devised contingencies to defeat each current member. It was meant to deconstruct his CrazyPrepared reputation but being paranoid became his new default.
* Given that Team ComicBook/IronMan won the Marvel ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', we're probably meant to assume this about ComicBook/CaptainAmerica.
** It helps that he was finally "[[EpiphanyTherapy convinced]]" not to kill Iron Man and lay down arms by being team [[{{Anvilicious}} tackled by a policeman, paramedic, firefighter, and soldier (who were ethnically diverse, at that)]] by showing him the Hulk-level destruction their fighting was causing.
** The storyline seemed to be originally intended to be a bit ambiguous about who's right. Then there was ExecutiveMeddling and a WriterRevolt, as everyone making the comics picked their preferred side and tried to make them the "obviously good" side. Now we've got an accidentally ambiguous storyline that nobody intended to be ambiguous. Mark Millar, who wrote the main series, seems to hold Americans in contempt and believe that having fascists win is what the audience wanted to see.
** And they've now just thrown up their hands, said screw it and reached for the ResetButton. [[spoiler:Iron Man committed what amounts to suicide by putting himself into a PVS and having his memory restored from a back-up made some (so far) indeterminate length of time pre-civil war, Captain America is back and doesn't want to talk about it and, apparently, the US President has power to repeal the Superhuman Registration Act, [[ArtisticLicenseLaw an act of congress]], overnight on a whim.]]
** It was implied that Batman built Brother Eye and the OMAC Project as a direct result of him remembering the MindWipe Zatanna and other Justice League members performed on him when he caught them doing the same to Doctor Light during the ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis''.
** It started with Batman getting kicked out of the League temporarily for having secretly devised contingencies to defeat each current member. It was meant to deconstruct his CrazyPrepared reputation but being paranoid became his new default.
* Given that Team ComicBook/IronMan won the Marvel ''ComicBook/CivilWar'', we're probably meant to assume this about ComicBook/CaptainAmerica.
** It helps that he was finally "[[EpiphanyTherapy convinced]]" not to kill Iron Man and lay down arms by being team [[{{Anvilicious}} tackled by a policeman, paramedic, firefighter, and soldier (who were ethnically diverse, at that)]] by showing him the Hulk-level destruction their fighting was causing.
** The storyline seemed to be originally intended to be a bit ambiguous about who's right. Then there was ExecutiveMeddling and a WriterRevolt, as everyone making the comics picked their preferred side and tried to make them the "obviously good" side. Now we've got an accidentally ambiguous storyline that nobody intended to be ambiguous. Mark Millar, who wrote the main series, seems to hold Americans in contempt and believe that having fascists win is what the audience wanted to see.
** And they've now just thrown up their hands, said screw it and reached for the ResetButton. [[spoiler:Iron Man committed what amounts to suicide by putting himself into a PVS and having his memory restored from a back-up made some (so far) indeterminate length of time pre-civil war, Captain America is back and doesn't want to talk about it and, apparently, the US President has power to repeal the Superhuman Registration Act, [[ArtisticLicenseLaw an act of congress]], overnight on a whim.]]
Changed line(s) 71,72 (click to see context) from:
[[folder:Fan Fiction]]
* In ''Fanfic/ThePrayerWarriors'', "Battle With the Witches," when the group is out of leads on how to get keys to [[Franchise/HarryPotter Dumbledore's office in Hogwarts]], they come up with the idea of having Ebony[[note]]Not the My Immortal Ebony, but you can be forgiven for mistaking the two[[/note]] sleep with Harry Potter. Draco, who in this fic is a secret Christian and one of the Prayer Warriors, complains about this being sinful, but not only is he overruled by Michael and Ebony, but it's indicated he's angry because he's in a "satanic" mood.
* In ''Fanfic/ThePrayerWarriors'', "Battle With the Witches," when the group is out of leads on how to get keys to [[Franchise/HarryPotter Dumbledore's office in Hogwarts]], they come up with the idea of having Ebony[[note]]Not the My Immortal Ebony, but you can be forgiven for mistaking the two[[/note]] sleep with Harry Potter. Draco, who in this fic is a secret Christian and one of the Prayer Warriors, complains about this being sinful, but not only is he overruled by Michael and Ebony, but it's indicated he's angry because he's in a "satanic" mood.
to:
[[folder:Fan Fiction]]
Works]]
* In''Fanfic/ThePrayerWarriors'', "Battle With the Witches," when the group is out of leads on how to get keys to [[Franchise/HarryPotter Dumbledore's office ''Fanfic/GiftOfADiamond'', Blue Diamond received complaints in Hogwarts]], they come up with the idea of having Ebony[[note]]Not the My Immortal Ebony, but you can be forgiven for mistaking the two[[/note]] sleep with Harry Potter. Draco, who in this fic is a secret Christian and one of the Prayer Warriors, complains droves about this being sinful, but not only is he overruled by Michael and Ebony, but it's indicated he's angry because he's in a "satanic" mood.Rhodonite from Holly Blue Agate. This eventually stops after Holly gets demoted to cleaning duty with Rhodonite taking her place.
* In
Changed line(s) 75 (click to see context) from:
* In ''Fanfic/GiftOfADiamond'', Blue Diamond received complaints in droves about Rhodonite from Holly Blue Agate. This eventually stops after Holly gets demoted to cleaning duty with Rhodonite taking her place.
to:
* In ''Fanfic/GiftOfADiamond'', Blue Diamond received complaints ''Fanfic/ThePrayerWarriors'', "Battle With the Witches," when the group is out of leads on how to get keys to [[Franchise/HarryPotter Dumbledore's office in droves Hogwarts]], they come up with the idea of having Ebony[[note]]Not the My Immortal Ebony, but you can be forgiven for mistaking the two[[/note]] sleep with Harry Potter. Draco, who in this fic is a secret Christian and one of the Prayer Warriors, complains about Rhodonite from Holly Blue Agate. This eventually stops after Holly gets demoted to cleaning duty with Rhodonite taking her place.this being sinful, but not only is he overruled by Michael and Ebony, but it's indicated he's angry because he's in a "satanic" mood.
Deleted line(s) 80 (click to see context) :
* {{Subverted|Trope}} in Disney's ''WesternAnimation/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}}'', which has Grumpy being ridiculed for his fears that Snow White will lead the Queen right to them. Turns out he's [[ProperlyParanoid bang on the money]] on that one.
* {{Subverted|Trope}} in Disney's ''WesternAnimation/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}}'', which has Grumpy being ridiculed for his fears that Snow White will lead the Queen right to them. Turns out he's [[ProperlyParanoid bang on the money]] on that one.
* Inverted in ''Film/{{Alien}}''. Ripley at first seems harsh and wrong for refusing to let the crew in when a face-hugger attacked one of them, coldly citing quarantine procedures. In the end, it turns out she was entirely correct and had they listened to her [[spoiler: she might not have been the only survivor]].
* Lampshaded in ''Film/BobRoberts'':
-->'''Bob Roberts''': ...But they complain and complain and complain!
* Lampshaded in ''Film/BobRoberts'':
-->'''Bob Roberts''': ...But they complain and complain and complain!
* In ''Film/Da5Bloods'', Paul repeatedly goes against the group with paranoid theories about who is about to betray them, and is always proven wrong. [[spoiler: Tiên, Hedy, and Vinh were all loyal to the group and remain on good terms with the surviving Bloods at the end. Paul's decision to abandon the party causes him to lose his share of the gold and die an ignoble death, while those who stuck together survive or go out in a blaze of glory and keep their gold.]] This fits with the larger theme about the Bloods being about brotherhood, unity, and loyalty.
Changed line(s) 89 (click to see context) from:
* The movie ''Welcome Home, Roscoe Jenkins'' has RJ complaining that his family just gives him the finger when all he wants is their "thumb ups". Turns out, he "forgot where he came from" despite being incredibly successful with his life.
to:
* The movie ''Welcome Home, Roscoe Jenkins'' has RJ In ''Film/{{Heatwave}}'', although most of the tenants are sympathetic to Kate's cause, one older resident berates her and the other protestors as idiots and showoffs in a television news interview.
* In ''Film/IndependenceDay'', the Secretary of Defense. From wanting to nuke the aliens (which was at least worth trying) to wanting to nuke them again to at least see if multiple bombardments might have a chance, to complainingthat about the final attack plan, he is wrong about everything either because the movie says he's wrong or because he is carrying the IdiotBall.
* ZigZagged in ''Film/TheLastOutlaw''. Potts repeatedly contradicts and challenges the initial gang leader Graff and hisfamily just gives him the finger when all he wants is replacement Eustis on their "thumb ups". Turns out, he "forgot where he came from" despite being incredibly successful with decisions. While his life.belief that there isn't a posse chasing them is blatantly wrong, much of what Potts suggests is actually right, most notably him pointing out to Eustis that the gang should just cut their losses and focus on running for the border rather than continue to engage Graff and the posse.
* In ''Film/IndependenceDay'', the Secretary of Defense. From wanting to nuke the aliens (which was at least worth trying) to wanting to nuke them again to at least see if multiple bombardments might have a chance, to complaining
* ZigZagged in ''Film/TheLastOutlaw''. Potts repeatedly contradicts and challenges the initial gang leader Graff and his
Changed line(s) 95,101 (click to see context) from:
* Lampshaded in ''Film/BobRoberts'':
-->'''Bob Roberts''': ...But they complain and complain and complain!
* In ''Film/IndependenceDay'', the Secretary of Defense. From wanting to nuke the aliens (which was at least worth trying) to wanting to nuke them again to at least see if multiple bombardments might have a chance, to complaining about the final attack plan, he is wrong about everything either because the movie says he's wrong or because he is carrying the IdiotBall.
* Inverted in ''Film/{{Alien}}''. Ripley at first seems harsh and wrong for refusing to let the crew in when a face-hugger attacked one of them, coldly citing quarantine procedures. In the end, it turns out she was entirely correct and had they listened to her [[spoiler: she might not have been the only survivor]].
* In ''Film/Da5Bloods'', Paul repeatedly goes against the group with paranoid theories about who is about to betray them, and is always proven wrong. [[spoiler: Tiên, Hedy, and Vinh were all loyal to the group and remain on good terms with the surviving Bloods at the end. Paul's decision to abandon the party causes him to lose his share of the gold and die an ignoble death, while those who stuck together survive or go out in a blaze of glory and keep their gold.]] This fits with the larger theme about the Bloods being about brotherhood, unity, and loyalty.
* ZigZagged in ''Film/TheLastOutlaw''. Potts repeatedly contradicts and challenges the initial gang leader Graff and his replacement Eustis on their decisions. While his belief that there isn't a posse chasing them is blatantly wrong, much of what Potts suggests is actually right, most notably him pointing out to Eustis that the gang should just cut their losses and focus on running for the border rather than continue to engage Graff and the posse.
* In ''Film/{{Heatwave}}'', although most of the tenants are sympathetic to Kate's cause, one older resident berates her and the other protestors as idiots and showoffs in a television news interview.
-->'''Bob Roberts''': ...But they complain and complain and complain!
* In ''Film/IndependenceDay'', the Secretary of Defense. From wanting to nuke the aliens (which was at least worth trying) to wanting to nuke them again to at least see if multiple bombardments might have a chance, to complaining about the final attack plan, he is wrong about everything either because the movie says he's wrong or because he is carrying the IdiotBall.
* Inverted in ''Film/{{Alien}}''. Ripley at first seems harsh and wrong for refusing to let the crew in when a face-hugger attacked one of them, coldly citing quarantine procedures. In the end, it turns out she was entirely correct and had they listened to her [[spoiler: she might not have been the only survivor]].
* In ''Film/Da5Bloods'', Paul repeatedly goes against the group with paranoid theories about who is about to betray them, and is always proven wrong. [[spoiler: Tiên, Hedy, and Vinh were all loyal to the group and remain on good terms with the surviving Bloods at the end. Paul's decision to abandon the party causes him to lose his share of the gold and die an ignoble death, while those who stuck together survive or go out in a blaze of glory and keep their gold.]] This fits with the larger theme about the Bloods being about brotherhood, unity, and loyalty.
* ZigZagged in ''Film/TheLastOutlaw''. Potts repeatedly contradicts and challenges the initial gang leader Graff and his replacement Eustis on their decisions. While his belief that there isn't a posse chasing them is blatantly wrong, much of what Potts suggests is actually right, most notably him pointing out to Eustis that the gang should just cut their losses and focus on running for the border rather than continue to engage Graff and the posse.
* In ''Film/{{Heatwave}}'', although most of the tenants are sympathetic to Kate's cause, one older resident berates her and the other protestors as idiots and showoffs in a television news interview.
to:
* Lampshaded in ''Film/BobRoberts'':
-->'''Bob Roberts''': ...But they complain and complain and complain!
* In ''Film/IndependenceDay'', the Secretary of Defense. From wanting to nuke the aliens (which was at least worth trying) to wanting to nuke them again to at least see if multiple bombardments might have a chance, toThe movie ''Welcome Home, Roscoe Jenkins'' has RJ complaining about that his family just gives him the final attack plan, he is wrong about everything either because the movie says he's wrong or because he is carrying the IdiotBall.
* Inverted in ''Film/{{Alien}}''. Ripley at first seems harsh and wrong for refusing to let the crew infinger when a face-hugger attacked one of them, coldly citing quarantine procedures. In the end, it turns out she was entirely correct and had they listened to her [[spoiler: she might not have been the only survivor]].
* In ''Film/Da5Bloods'', Paul repeatedly goes against the group with paranoid theories about who is about to betray them, and is always proven wrong. [[spoiler: Tiên, Hedy, and Vinh wereall loyal to the group and remain on good terms with the surviving Bloods at the end. Paul's decision to abandon the party causes him to lose his share of the gold and die an ignoble death, while those who stuck together survive or go out in a blaze of glory and keep he wants is their gold.]] This fits with the larger theme about the Bloods "thumb ups". Turns out, he "forgot where he came from" despite being about brotherhood, unity, and loyalty.
* ZigZagged in ''Film/TheLastOutlaw''. Potts repeatedly contradicts and challenges the initial gang leader Graff andincredibly successful with his replacement Eustis on their decisions. While his belief that there isn't a posse chasing them is blatantly wrong, much of what Potts suggests is actually right, most notably him pointing out to Eustis that the gang should just cut their losses and focus on running for the border rather than continue to engage Graff and the posse.
* In ''Film/{{Heatwave}}'', although most of the tenants are sympathetic to Kate's cause, one older resident berates her and the other protestors as idiots and showoffs in a television news interview.life.
-->'''Bob Roberts''': ...But they complain and complain and complain!
* In ''Film/IndependenceDay'', the Secretary of Defense. From wanting to nuke the aliens (which was at least worth trying) to wanting to nuke them again to at least see if multiple bombardments might have a chance, to
* Inverted in ''Film/{{Alien}}''. Ripley at first seems harsh and wrong for refusing to let the crew in
* In ''Film/Da5Bloods'', Paul repeatedly goes against the group with paranoid theories about who is about to betray them, and is always proven wrong. [[spoiler: Tiên, Hedy, and Vinh were
* ZigZagged in ''Film/TheLastOutlaw''. Potts repeatedly contradicts and challenges the initial gang leader Graff and
* In ''Film/{{Heatwave}}'', although most of the tenants are sympathetic to Kate's cause, one older resident berates her and the other protestors as idiots and showoffs in a television news interview.
!!By Author:
* Inverted in Creator/AynRand's novels, where the 'complainer' (or loner or dissident) is always the hero. However, the [[AnAesop message]] is not nonconformist so much as it is revolutionary; Rand preached [[UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} her ideology]], which was and is [[{{Ubermensch}} in conflict with most existing philosophical schools]], rather than a right to one's own opinion as such (which she was inconsistent on).
!!By Title:
* ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' depicts an extreme example of a system that [[EnforcedTrope believes in this trope]]. Anyone who even ''thinks'' different than the government is treated as a criminal in the eyes of the state and is dealt with accordingly. He is also Obviously wrong and insane, even if his thought is something as self-evident as 2+2=4.
* Inverted in Creator/AynRand's novels, where the 'complainer' (or loner or dissident) is always the hero. However, the [[AnAesop message]] is not nonconformist so much as it is revolutionary; Rand preached [[UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} her ideology]], which was and is [[{{Ubermensch}} in conflict with most existing philosophical schools]], rather than a right to one's own opinion as such (which she was inconsistent on).
!!By Title:
* ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' depicts an extreme example of a system that [[EnforcedTrope believes in this trope]]. Anyone who even ''thinks'' different than the government is treated as a criminal in the eyes of the state and is dealt with accordingly. He is also Obviously wrong and insane, even if his thought is something as self-evident as 2+2=4.
Deleted line(s) 110,111 (click to see context) :
* Roger Manning in ''Tom Corbett: Space Cadet'' is the complainer of his PowerTrio, and almost always wrong, especially in the earlier books.
* The titular Milieu in the ''Literature/GalacticMilieu'' trilogy believes this, though whether the author agrees with them is unknown.
* The titular Milieu in the ''Literature/GalacticMilieu'' trilogy believes this, though whether the author agrees with them is unknown.
Deleted line(s) 113 (click to see context) :
* Inverted in Creator/AynRand's novels, where the 'complainer' (or loner or dissident) is always the hero. However, the [[AnAesop message]] is not nonconformist so much as it is revolutionary; Rand preached [[UsefulNotes/{{Objectivism}} her ideology]], which was and is [[{{Ubermensch}} in conflict with most existing philosophical schools]], rather than a right to one's own opinion as such (which she was inconsistent on).
Changed line(s) 119 (click to see context) from:
* ''Literature/TheSistersGrimm'': The main character, Sabrina, says "I don't think we should believe this daft-acting old woman who claims to be our grandma and believes fairy tales are real." Yeah well, She's wrong and her little sister is right. Sabrina says "You know, maybe we shouldn't hang out with a guy who's losing control over the BigBad Wolf that possesses him." That may sound sensible, [[spoiler: and she does end up getting possessed by the BigBad Wolf herself]] but so far as her grandmother and sister are concerned, she's being the bitch to end all bitches. Even something that ought to be sensible, like "I don't think my little sister should be trusted with really powerful magic just yet," results in Sabrina being treated like she's an idiot who can't see that her little sister is all grown-up. At the age of seven. Sometimes Sabrina is genuinely wrong because she has lots of trust issues and makes bad calls. However, sometimes Sabrina seems to be wrong just because sensible behaviour has been flipped on its back as part of a conspiracy to ensure that she always is.
to:
* ''Literature/TheSistersGrimm'': PlayedWith in ''Literature/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem'' concerning the Runespoor, a three-headed serpent. One head constantly plans, another dreams, and a third criticizes the others. It's fairly common to see ''two''-headed snakes in cases where the first two teamed up to bite off the third.
* Themain character, Sabrina, says "I don't think we should believe this daft-acting old woman who claims to be our grandma and titular Milieu in the ''Literature/GalacticMilieu'' trilogy believes fairy tales are real." Yeah well, She's wrong and her little sister is right. Sabrina says "You know, maybe we shouldn't hang out this, though whether the author agrees with a guy who's losing control over them is unknown.
* Referenced in ''Literature/TheGoneAwayWorld'', in which theBigBad Wolf that possesses him." That may sound sensible, [[spoiler: and she does end up getting possessed by the BigBad Wolf herself]] but so far as her grandmother and sister are concerned, she's being the bitch to end all bitches. Even something that ought to be sensible, like "I don't think my little sister should be trusted with really powerful magic just yet," results in Sabrina being treated like she's an idiot who can't see that her little sister is all grown-up. At the age of seven. Sometimes Sabrina is genuinely wrong main character envies movie heroes because she has lots everyone accepts their climactic summation of trust issues and makes bad calls. However, sometimes Sabrina seems to be wrong just because sensible behaviour has been flipped on its back as part of the plot immediately except for a conspiracy to ensure that she always is.single complainer who either dies or apologizes afterwards.
* The
* Referenced in ''Literature/TheGoneAwayWorld'', in which the
Changed line(s) 121,122 (click to see context) from:
* ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' depicts an extreme example of a system that [[EnforcedTrope believes in this trope]]. Anyone who even ''thinks'' different than the government is treated as a criminal in the eyes of the state and is dealt with accordingly. He is also Obviously wrong and insane, even if his thought is something as self-evident as 2+2=4.
* Literature/SisterhoodSeries by Creator/FernMichaels: Jack Emery, Ted Robinson, Joe Espinosa, Harry Wong, Bert Navarro, and Charles Martin pretty much have this trope happen to them, on the grounds that they are men, and disagreeing with the female Vigilantes will automatically make them wrong. Yoko Akia had this trope happen to her in ''Weekend Warriors''. Isabelle Flanders had this trope put on her in ''Under The Radar'', where she stated the opposite opinions and made herself look like an idiot for disagreeing with her fellow Vigilantes.
* Literature/SisterhoodSeries by Creator/FernMichaels: Jack Emery, Ted Robinson, Joe Espinosa, Harry Wong, Bert Navarro, and Charles Martin pretty much have this trope happen to them, on the grounds that they are men, and disagreeing with the female Vigilantes will automatically make them wrong. Yoko Akia had this trope happen to her in ''Weekend Warriors''. Isabelle Flanders had this trope put on her in ''Under The Radar'', where she stated the opposite opinions and made herself look like an idiot for disagreeing with her fellow Vigilantes.
to:
* ''[[Literature/NineteenEightyFour 1984]]'' depicts an extreme example of a system that [[EnforcedTrope believes in this trope]]. Anyone who even ''thinks'' different than the government is treated as a criminal in the eyes of the state and is dealt with accordingly. He is also Obviously wrong and insane, even if his thought is something as self-evident as 2+2=4.
* Literature/SisterhoodSeries''Literature/SisterhoodSeries'' by Creator/FernMichaels: Jack Emery, Ted Robinson, Joe Espinosa, Harry Wong, Bert Navarro, and Charles Martin pretty much have this trope happen to them, on the grounds that they are men, and disagreeing with the female Vigilantes will automatically make them wrong. Yoko Akia had this trope happen to her in ''Weekend Warriors''. Isabelle Flanders had this trope put on her in ''Under The Radar'', where she stated the opposite opinions and made herself look like an idiot for disagreeing with her fellow Vigilantes.Vigilantes.
* ''Literature/TheSistersGrimm'': The main character, Sabrina, says "I don't think we should believe this daft-acting old woman who claims to be our grandma and believes fairy tales are real." Yeah well, She's wrong and her little sister is right. Sabrina says "You know, maybe we shouldn't hang out with a guy who's losing control over the BigBad Wolf that possesses him." That may sound sensible, [[spoiler: and she does end up getting possessed by the BigBad Wolf herself]] but so far as her grandmother and sister are concerned, she's being the bitch to end all bitches. Even something that ought to be sensible, like "I don't think my little sister should be trusted with really powerful magic just yet," results in Sabrina being treated like she's an idiot who can't see that her little sister is all grown-up. At the age of seven. Sometimes Sabrina is genuinely wrong because she has lots of trust issues and makes bad calls. However, sometimes Sabrina seems to be wrong just because sensible behaviour has been flipped on its back as part of a conspiracy to ensure that she always is.
* Literature/SisterhoodSeries
* ''Literature/TheSistersGrimm'': The main character, Sabrina, says "I don't think we should believe this daft-acting old woman who claims to be our grandma and believes fairy tales are real." Yeah well, She's wrong and her little sister is right. Sabrina says "You know, maybe we shouldn't hang out with a guy who's losing control over the BigBad Wolf that possesses him." That may sound sensible, [[spoiler: and she does end up getting possessed by the BigBad Wolf herself]] but so far as her grandmother and sister are concerned, she's being the bitch to end all bitches. Even something that ought to be sensible, like "I don't think my little sister should be trusted with really powerful magic just yet," results in Sabrina being treated like she's an idiot who can't see that her little sister is all grown-up. At the age of seven. Sometimes Sabrina is genuinely wrong because she has lots of trust issues and makes bad calls. However, sometimes Sabrina seems to be wrong just because sensible behaviour has been flipped on its back as part of a conspiracy to ensure that she always is.
Changed line(s) 124,127 (click to see context) from:
* Referenced in ''Literature/TheGoneAwayWorld'', in which the main character envies movie heroes because everyone accepts their climactic summation of the plot immediately except for a single complainer who either dies or apologizes afterwards.
* ''St. Therese and the Roses'' is a fictionalized account, marketed to children, of the life of St. Therese of Lisieux. Her sister Léonie, the middle child, is depicted as brooding and melancholic while the other girls are cheerful and outgoing. If the father suggests an outing, the other girls respond gleefully, but Léonie isn't in the mood, it is portrayed as her not being as good as her sisters. She promises her dying mother she would "try to be better," which meant trying to be more cheerful like her sisters, and later in life won't even join the same strict convent (Carmel) the others do, because she feels she isn't as good as they. Even HarsherInHindsight: the real Léonie was [[http://cloisters.tripod.com/leonieleague/id8.html learning disabled and possibly autistic, and was beaten by a nursemaid in early childhood]]. She's even the last of the Martin family to get her cause for sainthood turned in to the Vatican. She tried and failed at many other convents and monasteries [[note]]monasteries are the "cloistered", enclosed communities for contemplative nuns; convents have sisters, who go out into the world as teachers, nurses etc[[/note]], finally making it as a professed sister of the Visitation of Caen [[http://leoniemartin.org/life-of-leonie-from-the-visita where she did well]]. There is a movement now to make her a saint of unfavorites, marginalized people, and autistics. There is even a mission of sisters called the Léonie League, which proposes to found a new religious order especially for autistic and Down's syndrome monks and nuns.
* Played with in ''Literature/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem'', concerning the Runespoor, a three-headed serpent. One head constantly plans, another dreams, and a third criticizes the others. It's fairly common to see ''two''-headed snakes in cases where the first two teamed up to bite off the third.
* Ostensibly, the [[UsefulNotes/IsraelisWithInfraredMissiles Israeli intelligence services]] in ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' work hard to avoid this trope, always willing to offer and entertain a differing opinion so as not to fall into smug complacency. This is, to say the very least, not entirely true to the RL Israeli armed forces experience.
* ''St. Therese and the Roses'' is a fictionalized account, marketed to children, of the life of St. Therese of Lisieux. Her sister Léonie, the middle child, is depicted as brooding and melancholic while the other girls are cheerful and outgoing. If the father suggests an outing, the other girls respond gleefully, but Léonie isn't in the mood, it is portrayed as her not being as good as her sisters. She promises her dying mother she would "try to be better," which meant trying to be more cheerful like her sisters, and later in life won't even join the same strict convent (Carmel) the others do, because she feels she isn't as good as they. Even HarsherInHindsight: the real Léonie was [[http://cloisters.tripod.com/leonieleague/id8.html learning disabled and possibly autistic, and was beaten by a nursemaid in early childhood]]. She's even the last of the Martin family to get her cause for sainthood turned in to the Vatican. She tried and failed at many other convents and monasteries [[note]]monasteries are the "cloistered", enclosed communities for contemplative nuns; convents have sisters, who go out into the world as teachers, nurses etc[[/note]], finally making it as a professed sister of the Visitation of Caen [[http://leoniemartin.org/life-of-leonie-from-the-visita where she did well]]. There is a movement now to make her a saint of unfavorites, marginalized people, and autistics. There is even a mission of sisters called the Léonie League, which proposes to found a new religious order especially for autistic and Down's syndrome monks and nuns.
* Played with in ''Literature/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem'', concerning the Runespoor, a three-headed serpent. One head constantly plans, another dreams, and a third criticizes the others. It's fairly common to see ''two''-headed snakes in cases where the first two teamed up to bite off the third.
* Ostensibly, the [[UsefulNotes/IsraelisWithInfraredMissiles Israeli intelligence services]] in ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' work hard to avoid this trope, always willing to offer and entertain a differing opinion so as not to fall into smug complacency. This is, to say the very least, not entirely true to the RL Israeli armed forces experience.
to:
Changed line(s) 129 (click to see context) from:
** {{Subverted}} in ''Literature/TheHobbit.'' When the men of Lake-town see fire burning on the mountain most of them think that Thorin and the other dwarves have retaken it and lit their forges, with only Bard suggesting that, you know, ''maybe it's the dragon that's been living there for almost two hundred years?'' Everyone tells him to stop being so gloomy but he raises the alarm anyway, so it's thanks to him that the town even survived long enough for him to kill Smaug.
to:
** {{Subverted}} in ''Literature/TheHobbit.'' ''Literature/TheHobbit''. When the men of Lake-town see fire burning on the mountain most of them think that Thorin and the other dwarves have retaken it and lit their forges, with only Bard suggesting that, you know, ''maybe it's the dragon that's been living there for almost two hundred years?'' Everyone tells him to stop being so gloomy but he raises the alarm anyway, so it's thanks to him that the town even survived long enough for him to kill Smaug.
* Roger Manning in ''Tom Corbett: Space Cadet'' is the complainer of his PowerTrio, and almost always wrong, especially in the earlier books.
* Ostensibly, the [[UsefulNotes/IsraelisWithInfraredMissiles Israeli intelligence services]] in ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' work hard to avoid this trope, always willing to offer and entertain a differing opinion so as not to fall into smug complacency. This is, to say the very least, not entirely true to the RL Israeli armed forces experience.
* Ostensibly, the [[UsefulNotes/IsraelisWithInfraredMissiles Israeli intelligence services]] in ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' work hard to avoid this trope, always willing to offer and entertain a differing opinion so as not to fall into smug complacency. This is, to say the very least, not entirely true to the RL Israeli armed forces experience.
Changed line(s) 134 (click to see context) from:
* ''Allegra's Window'': The class was asked what their favorite vegetable was, and they all answered "blue zutabaga," [[note]]a fictional vegetable that often featured in the show[[/note]] except Allegra, who had never had one before, and said that her favorite vegetable was the carrot. Over the course of the episode, Allegra was urged by everyone she knew to try blue zutabagas, until the end, when she finally tasted one and decided it was, in fact, her favorite vegetable. The ''intended'' Aesop of that episode was likely "[[IDoNotLikeGreenEggsAndHam don't be afraid to try new foods]]," and the classroom scene was probably to emphasize how good everyone thought this vegetable was, so why still insist you won't like it? Good point, [[BrokenAesop bad approach]].
to:
* ''Allegra's Window'': The class was asked what their favorite vegetable was, and they all answered "blue zutabaga," zutabaga" [[note]]a fictional vegetable that often featured in the show[[/note]] except Allegra, who had never had one before, and said that her favorite vegetable was the carrot. Over the course of the episode, Allegra was urged by everyone she knew to try blue zutabagas, until the end, when she finally tasted one and decided it was, in fact, her favorite vegetable. The ''intended'' Aesop of that episode was likely "[[IDoNotLikeGreenEggsAndHam don't be afraid to try new foods]]," and the classroom scene was probably to emphasize how good everyone thought this vegetable was, so why still insist you won't like it? Good point, [[BrokenAesop bad approach]].
* Early 1970's children's show, ''Curiosity Shop''. An anthropomorphic groundhog puppet named Woodrow is trying to sleep until Groundhog Day. However, the terrible singing of another puppet character is keeping him awake. He complains to a young Pamelyn Ferdin that he dislikes music. What should she do in response? Why, tell him he's wrong, of course, and then immediately pull out a guitar and commence to singing "I Believe in Music" at the top of her lungs! Naturally, since the complainer ''is'' always wrong, Woodrow soon sees the error of his ways and peacefully falls asleep.
* Parodied in an episode of ''Series/TheDailyShow'', as Jon Stewart tries to talk about Israel's actions towards Palestine, only to be immediately shouted down by the Daily Show correspondents, who criticize him for being anti-Israel, one of whom even calls him [[NoTrueScotsman a "self-loathing Jew"]]. This leads Jon to mention that [[WithUsOrAgainstUs being critical of Israel's actions does not imply approving Hamas' actions]]. However, [[HeadsIWinTailsYouLose this leads to the correspondents shouting at him for ignoring the plight of the Palestinian people]].
* Happens a lot to the main character of ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond''; Ray really can never win. [[ScyllaAndCharybdis He constantly gets caught as an unwilling participant in the never-ending battle for supremacy between his mother and his wife]], and no matter what he does to try and make peace, he can never please one without royally pissing off the other. Whenever Ray attempts to insinuate that the whole conflict is pointless and that the family should just make nice, either his overbearing mother will guilt-trip him and act like he's betrayed her, or his immature wife will throw a tantrum and beat him up. Or both. And even on one of the few occasions when his mom and wife made peace--so that they could send out a Christmas letter for the sole purpose of spiting a distant relative--Ray ''still'' ends up getting rebuked: he points out "This is Christmas!" and asserts that they really shouldn't be doing something nasty like this, especially at this time of year. His mom and wife jointly give him a death glare and scare him out of his kitchen.
* Nearly every episode of ''Series/{{House}}'' has the team break into the patient's home; anyone who objects to these illegal searches comes across as paranoid or ungrateful. One episode had them break into a ''wrong'' house, as the patient turned out to be Romani and didn't have a permanent address, so he simply gave them a fake address. They break in and catch a couple having sex. They immediately assume that the guy is the owner of the house, and the woman is the maid, since she doesn't have a ring (and the guy does). Thus, they smugly threaten to expose the affair and casually mention that she's a terrible maid given the state of the kitchen. The woman then reveals it's ''her'' house, and the guy is her lover (although there is still an affair, given that he's married), and demands that they elaborate on the state of the kitchen. The doctors quickly run away before she can call the cops. Naturally, this is PlayedForLaughs.
* ''Series/ICarly'': "iMeet Fred". Freddie is bashed with a tennis racquet because he said Fred [[OpinionMyopia wasn't that funny]]. And then tossed out of a treehouse. Among other things. This is HarsherInHindsight when you consider that Fred is considered ''highly'' divisive out-of-universe.
* On ''Series/KirbyBuckets'', Dawn is constantly treated like crap by everyone on the show, including her own family. Her constant complaints about nobody seeming to like or even respect her in universe is intended to be seen as merely the ramblings of an [[GreenEyedMonster envious]] [[BrattyTeenageDaughter teenage brat]], even though the show constantly proves she's not wrong. While she may be a {{Jerkass}}, that doesn't always mean she deserves to be treated that way.
* ''Series/LawAndOrderSVU'' frequently subverts this: whenever the majority of the detectives are convinced they have an open-and-shut case, except for one person who thinks something doesn't quite add up, you can almost always bet hard money that person will be proven right before the episode is out.
* Happens to Claire on ''Series/ModernFamily'' to distressing degrees. For example, even when armed with videotaped evidence to support that Phil put her in physical danger while he flirted with another woman, the MoralOfTheStory is Claire went too far to prove she was correct while Phil pulls a KarmaHoudini. In fairness, she did describe the lengths to which she went to prove that Phil [[MinorInjuryOverreaction knocked her over]], which were somewhat extreme. Then she also confessed to [[CrossesTheLineTwice putting Mitchell into a dryer when they were young because a friend told her it wouldn't start with a baby inside]].
* Parodied in an episode of ''Series/TheDailyShow'', as Jon Stewart tries to talk about Israel's actions towards Palestine, only to be immediately shouted down by the Daily Show correspondents, who criticize him for being anti-Israel, one of whom even calls him [[NoTrueScotsman a "self-loathing Jew"]]. This leads Jon to mention that [[WithUsOrAgainstUs being critical of Israel's actions does not imply approving Hamas' actions]]. However, [[HeadsIWinTailsYouLose this leads to the correspondents shouting at him for ignoring the plight of the Palestinian people]].
* Happens a lot to the main character of ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond''; Ray really can never win. [[ScyllaAndCharybdis He constantly gets caught as an unwilling participant in the never-ending battle for supremacy between his mother and his wife]], and no matter what he does to try and make peace, he can never please one without royally pissing off the other. Whenever Ray attempts to insinuate that the whole conflict is pointless and that the family should just make nice, either his overbearing mother will guilt-trip him and act like he's betrayed her, or his immature wife will throw a tantrum and beat him up. Or both. And even on one of the few occasions when his mom and wife made peace--so that they could send out a Christmas letter for the sole purpose of spiting a distant relative--Ray ''still'' ends up getting rebuked: he points out "This is Christmas!" and asserts that they really shouldn't be doing something nasty like this, especially at this time of year. His mom and wife jointly give him a death glare and scare him out of his kitchen.
* Nearly every episode of ''Series/{{House}}'' has the team break into the patient's home; anyone who objects to these illegal searches comes across as paranoid or ungrateful. One episode had them break into a ''wrong'' house, as the patient turned out to be Romani and didn't have a permanent address, so he simply gave them a fake address. They break in and catch a couple having sex. They immediately assume that the guy is the owner of the house, and the woman is the maid, since she doesn't have a ring (and the guy does). Thus, they smugly threaten to expose the affair and casually mention that she's a terrible maid given the state of the kitchen. The woman then reveals it's ''her'' house, and the guy is her lover (although there is still an affair, given that he's married), and demands that they elaborate on the state of the kitchen. The doctors quickly run away before she can call the cops. Naturally, this is PlayedForLaughs.
* ''Series/ICarly'': "iMeet Fred". Freddie is bashed with a tennis racquet because he said Fred [[OpinionMyopia wasn't that funny]]. And then tossed out of a treehouse. Among other things. This is HarsherInHindsight when you consider that Fred is considered ''highly'' divisive out-of-universe.
* On ''Series/KirbyBuckets'', Dawn is constantly treated like crap by everyone on the show, including her own family. Her constant complaints about nobody seeming to like or even respect her in universe is intended to be seen as merely the ramblings of an [[GreenEyedMonster envious]] [[BrattyTeenageDaughter teenage brat]], even though the show constantly proves she's not wrong. While she may be a {{Jerkass}}, that doesn't always mean she deserves to be treated that way.
* ''Series/LawAndOrderSVU'' frequently subverts this: whenever the majority of the detectives are convinced they have an open-and-shut case, except for one person who thinks something doesn't quite add up, you can almost always bet hard money that person will be proven right before the episode is out.
* Happens to Claire on ''Series/ModernFamily'' to distressing degrees. For example, even when armed with videotaped evidence to support that Phil put her in physical danger while he flirted with another woman, the MoralOfTheStory is Claire went too far to prove she was correct while Phil pulls a KarmaHoudini. In fairness, she did describe the lengths to which she went to prove that Phil [[MinorInjuryOverreaction knocked her over]], which were somewhat extreme. Then she also confessed to [[CrossesTheLineTwice putting Mitchell into a dryer when they were young because a friend told her it wouldn't start with a baby inside]].
Changed line(s) 143 (click to see context) from:
* ''Series/ICarly'': "iMeet Fred". Freddie is bashed with a tennis racquet because he said Fred [[OpinionMyopia wasn't that funny]]. And then tossed out of a treehouse. Among other things. This is HarsherInHindsight when you consider that Fred is considered ''highly'' divisive out-of-universe.
to:
* ''Series/ICarly'': "iMeet Fred". Freddie ''Series/{{Psych}}'': Detective Lassiter is bashed consistently portrayed as dismissive of Shawn and Gus despite their proven track record as valuable assets to the police department.
* ''Series/SamuraiGourmet'': Because the show involves so much JapanesePoliteness, this trope features prominently. If a character brings disharmony to the setting, you can be assured they will trigger the [[IndulgentFantasySegue samurai fantasy]]. Of course, once that's over, Kasumi is left to work out exactly how it applies to the real world. Sometimes [[FantasticAesop it doesn't]], or it's beyond Kasumi's audacity. Fortunately, in those cases, there's usually [[MakingTheChoiceForYou another solution]].
* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': In "Let He Who Is Without Sin", Worf is regarded as a big party-pooper throughout his trip to Risa. Yes, he should ease up a bit, but with how much Jadzia keeps shrugging off his requests to discuss their relationship, which was ''the'' reason they were going to Risa to begin with (which was also where ''she'' wanted to go, by the way), it's hard to blame him for finally losing his cool when he does. At one point she shouts at him for pointing out she's ''allergic'' to the fruit in her drink order.
** This was atennis racquet carry-over from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', in which Worf's tactical suggestions were dismissed with almost clockwork precision... even though it was regularly shown that his suggestions, if followed, would have saved a ''lot'' of headache on the Enterprise-D. [[https://youtu.be/edflm7Hh3hs Someone made a video]] showcasing just how often this came up.
* This is part of why ''Series/TheWestWing'' got rid of the character Mandy at the end of the first season. She was supposed to bring pragmatism to the senior staff's idealistic views by arguing for the option that was easier to sell to the public. However, she would often be arguing for something objectively worse--e.g. staying with the Supreme Court nominee with an Ivy League background rather than the SelfMadeMan who actually agreed with Bartlet's views, becausehe said Fred [[OpinionMyopia wasn't that funny]]. And then tossed out of a treehouse. Among other things. This is HarsherInHindsight when you consider that Fred is considered ''highly'' divisive out-of-universe.the former would be easier to sell. Inevitably, she would be overruled and the staff would take the moral high road.
* ''Series/SamuraiGourmet'': Because the show involves so much JapanesePoliteness, this trope features prominently. If a character brings disharmony to the setting, you can be assured they will trigger the [[IndulgentFantasySegue samurai fantasy]]. Of course, once that's over, Kasumi is left to work out exactly how it applies to the real world. Sometimes [[FantasticAesop it doesn't]], or it's beyond Kasumi's audacity. Fortunately, in those cases, there's usually [[MakingTheChoiceForYou another solution]].
* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': In "Let He Who Is Without Sin", Worf is regarded as a big party-pooper throughout his trip to Risa. Yes, he should ease up a bit, but with how much Jadzia keeps shrugging off his requests to discuss their relationship, which was ''the'' reason they were going to Risa to begin with (which was also where ''she'' wanted to go, by the way), it's hard to blame him for finally losing his cool when he does. At one point she shouts at him for pointing out she's ''allergic'' to the fruit in her drink order.
** This was a
* This is part of why ''Series/TheWestWing'' got rid of the character Mandy at the end of the first season. She was supposed to bring pragmatism to the senior staff's idealistic views by arguing for the option that was easier to sell to the public. However, she would often be arguing for something objectively worse--e.g. staying with the Supreme Court nominee with an Ivy League background rather than the SelfMadeMan who actually agreed with Bartlet's views, because
Deleted line(s) 145,156 (click to see context) :
* Happens to Claire on ''Series/ModernFamily'' to distressing degrees. For example, even when armed with videotaped evidence to support that Phil put her in physical danger while he flirted with another woman, the MoralOfTheStory is Claire went too far to prove she was correct while Phil pulls a KarmaHoudini. In fairness, she did describe the lengths to which she went to to prove that Phil [[MinorInjuryOverreaction knocked her over]], which were somewhat extreme. Then she also confessed to [[CrossesTheLineTwice putting Mitchell into a dryer when they were young because a friend told her it wouldn't start with a baby inside]].
* Happens a lot to the main character of ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond''; Ray really can never win. [[ScyllaAndCharybdis He constantly gets caught as an unwilling participant in the never-ending battle for supremacy between his mother and his wife]], and no matter what he does to try and make peace, he can never please one without royally pissing off the other. Whenever Ray attempts to insinuate that the whole conflict is pointless and that the family should just make nice, either his overbearing mother will guilt-trip him and act like he's betrayed her, or his immature wife will throw a tantrum and beat him up. Or both. And even on one of the few occasions when his mom and wife made peace--so that they could send out a Christmas letter for the sole purpose of spiting a distant relative--Ray ''still'' ends up getting rebuked: he points out "This is Christmas!" and asserts that they really shouldn't be doing something nasty like this, especially at this time of year. His mom and wife jointly give him a death glare and scare him out of his kitchen.
* Nearly every episode of ''Series/{{House}}'' has the team break into the patient's home; anyone who objects to these illegal searches comes across as paranoid or ungrateful. One episode had them break into a ''wrong'' house, as the patient turned out to be Romani and didn't have a permanent address, so he simply gave them a fake address. They break in and catch a couple having sex. They immediately assume that the guy is the owner of the house, and the woman is the maid, since she doesn't have a ring (and the guy does). Thus, they smugly threaten to expose the affair and casually mention that she's a terrible maid given the state of the kitchen. The woman then reveals it's ''her'' house, and the guy is her lover (although there is still an affair, given that he's married), and demands that they elaborate on the state of the kitchen. The doctors quickly run away before she can call the cops. Naturally, this is PlayedForLaughs.
* ''Series/LawAndOrderSVU'' frequently subverts this: whenever the majority of the detectives are convinced they have an open-and-shut case, except for one person who thinks something doesn't quite add up, you can almost always bet hard money that person will be proven right before the episode is out.
* Parodied in an episode of ''Series/TheDailyShow'', as Jon Stewart tries to talk about Israel's actions towards Palestine, only to be immediately shouted down by the Daily Show correspondents, who criticize him for being anti-Israel, one of whom even calls him [[NoTrueScotsman a "self-loathing Jew"]]. This leads Jon to mention that [[WithUsOrAgainstUs being critical of Israel's actions does not imply approving Hamas' actions]]. However, [[HeadsIWinTailsYouLose this leads to the correspondents shouting at him for ignoring the plight of the Palestinian people]].
* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': In "Let He Who Is Without Sin", Worf is regarded as a big party-pooper throughout his trip to Risa. Yes, he should ease up a bit, but with how much Jadzia keeps shrugging off his requests to discuss their relationship, which was ''the'' reason they were going to Risa to begin with (which was also where ''she'' wanted to go, by the way), it's hard to blame him for finally losing his cool when he does. At one point she shouts at him for pointing out she's ''allergic'' to the fruit in her drink order.
** This was a carry-over from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', in which Worf's tactical suggestions were dismissed with almost clockwork precision... even though it was regularly shown that his suggestions, if followed, would have saved a ''lot'' of headache on the Enterprise-D. [[https://youtu.be/edflm7Hh3hs Someone made a video]] showcasing just how often this came up.
* This is part of why ''Series/TheWestWing'' got rid of the character Mandy at the end of the first season. She was supposed to bring pragmatism to the senior staff's idealistic views by arguing for the option that was easier to sell to the public. However, she would often be arguing for something objectively worse--e.g. staying with the Supreme Court nominee with an Ivy League background rather than the SelfMadeMan who actually agreed with Bartlet's views, because the former would be easier to sell. Inevitably, she would be overruled and the staff would take the moral high road.
* ''Series/SamuraiGourmet'': Because the show involves so much JapanesePoliteness, this trope features prominently. If a character brings disharmony to the setting, you can be assured they will trigger the [[IndulgentFantasySegue samurai fantasy]]. Of course, once that's over, Kasumi is left to work out exactly how it applies to the real world. Sometimes [[FantasticAesop it doesn't]], or it's beyond Kasumi's audacity. Fortunately, in those cases, there's usually [[MakingTheChoiceForYou another solution]].
* ''Series/{{Psych}}'': Detective Lassiter is consistently portrayed as dismissive of Shawn and Gus despite their proven track record as valuable assets to the police department.
* Early 1970's children's show, "Curiosity Shop." An anthropomorphic groundhog puppet named Woodrow is trying to sleep until Groundhog Day. However, the terrible singing of another puppet character is keeping him awake. He complains to a young Pamelyn Ferdin that he dislikes music. What should she do in response? Why, tell him he's wrong, of course, and then immediately pull out a guitar and commence to singing "I Believe in Music" at the top of her lungs! Naturally, since the complainer ''is'' always wrong, Woodrow soon sees the error of his ways and peacefully falls asleep.
* On ''Series/KirbyBuckets'', Dawn is constantly treated like crap by everyone on the show, including her own family. Her constant complaints about nobody seeming to like or even respect her in universe is intended to be seen as merely the ramblings of an [[GreenEyedMonster envious]] [[BrattyTeenageDaughter teenage brat]], even though the show constantly proves she's not wrong. While she may be a {{Jerkass}}, that doesn't always mean she deserves to be treated that way.
* Happens a lot to the main character of ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond''; Ray really can never win. [[ScyllaAndCharybdis He constantly gets caught as an unwilling participant in the never-ending battle for supremacy between his mother and his wife]], and no matter what he does to try and make peace, he can never please one without royally pissing off the other. Whenever Ray attempts to insinuate that the whole conflict is pointless and that the family should just make nice, either his overbearing mother will guilt-trip him and act like he's betrayed her, or his immature wife will throw a tantrum and beat him up. Or both. And even on one of the few occasions when his mom and wife made peace--so that they could send out a Christmas letter for the sole purpose of spiting a distant relative--Ray ''still'' ends up getting rebuked: he points out "This is Christmas!" and asserts that they really shouldn't be doing something nasty like this, especially at this time of year. His mom and wife jointly give him a death glare and scare him out of his kitchen.
* Nearly every episode of ''Series/{{House}}'' has the team break into the patient's home; anyone who objects to these illegal searches comes across as paranoid or ungrateful. One episode had them break into a ''wrong'' house, as the patient turned out to be Romani and didn't have a permanent address, so he simply gave them a fake address. They break in and catch a couple having sex. They immediately assume that the guy is the owner of the house, and the woman is the maid, since she doesn't have a ring (and the guy does). Thus, they smugly threaten to expose the affair and casually mention that she's a terrible maid given the state of the kitchen. The woman then reveals it's ''her'' house, and the guy is her lover (although there is still an affair, given that he's married), and demands that they elaborate on the state of the kitchen. The doctors quickly run away before she can call the cops. Naturally, this is PlayedForLaughs.
* ''Series/LawAndOrderSVU'' frequently subverts this: whenever the majority of the detectives are convinced they have an open-and-shut case, except for one person who thinks something doesn't quite add up, you can almost always bet hard money that person will be proven right before the episode is out.
* Parodied in an episode of ''Series/TheDailyShow'', as Jon Stewart tries to talk about Israel's actions towards Palestine, only to be immediately shouted down by the Daily Show correspondents, who criticize him for being anti-Israel, one of whom even calls him [[NoTrueScotsman a "self-loathing Jew"]]. This leads Jon to mention that [[WithUsOrAgainstUs being critical of Israel's actions does not imply approving Hamas' actions]]. However, [[HeadsIWinTailsYouLose this leads to the correspondents shouting at him for ignoring the plight of the Palestinian people]].
* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': In "Let He Who Is Without Sin", Worf is regarded as a big party-pooper throughout his trip to Risa. Yes, he should ease up a bit, but with how much Jadzia keeps shrugging off his requests to discuss their relationship, which was ''the'' reason they were going to Risa to begin with (which was also where ''she'' wanted to go, by the way), it's hard to blame him for finally losing his cool when he does. At one point she shouts at him for pointing out she's ''allergic'' to the fruit in her drink order.
** This was a carry-over from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'', in which Worf's tactical suggestions were dismissed with almost clockwork precision... even though it was regularly shown that his suggestions, if followed, would have saved a ''lot'' of headache on the Enterprise-D. [[https://youtu.be/edflm7Hh3hs Someone made a video]] showcasing just how often this came up.
* This is part of why ''Series/TheWestWing'' got rid of the character Mandy at the end of the first season. She was supposed to bring pragmatism to the senior staff's idealistic views by arguing for the option that was easier to sell to the public. However, she would often be arguing for something objectively worse--e.g. staying with the Supreme Court nominee with an Ivy League background rather than the SelfMadeMan who actually agreed with Bartlet's views, because the former would be easier to sell. Inevitably, she would be overruled and the staff would take the moral high road.
* ''Series/SamuraiGourmet'': Because the show involves so much JapanesePoliteness, this trope features prominently. If a character brings disharmony to the setting, you can be assured they will trigger the [[IndulgentFantasySegue samurai fantasy]]. Of course, once that's over, Kasumi is left to work out exactly how it applies to the real world. Sometimes [[FantasticAesop it doesn't]], or it's beyond Kasumi's audacity. Fortunately, in those cases, there's usually [[MakingTheChoiceForYou another solution]].
* ''Series/{{Psych}}'': Detective Lassiter is consistently portrayed as dismissive of Shawn and Gus despite their proven track record as valuable assets to the police department.
* Early 1970's children's show, "Curiosity Shop." An anthropomorphic groundhog puppet named Woodrow is trying to sleep until Groundhog Day. However, the terrible singing of another puppet character is keeping him awake. He complains to a young Pamelyn Ferdin that he dislikes music. What should she do in response? Why, tell him he's wrong, of course, and then immediately pull out a guitar and commence to singing "I Believe in Music" at the top of her lungs! Naturally, since the complainer ''is'' always wrong, Woodrow soon sees the error of his ways and peacefully falls asleep.
* On ''Series/KirbyBuckets'', Dawn is constantly treated like crap by everyone on the show, including her own family. Her constant complaints about nobody seeming to like or even respect her in universe is intended to be seen as merely the ramblings of an [[GreenEyedMonster envious]] [[BrattyTeenageDaughter teenage brat]], even though the show constantly proves she's not wrong. While she may be a {{Jerkass}}, that doesn't always mean she deserves to be treated that way.
* ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'': Poor Yuzu. All she wants is to escape the hellhole that the locked-down Yamanote Circle has become, what with all the demons and [[YourDaysAreNumbered the Death Clock]] and [[BreakTheCutie cutie-breaking horrors]]. She tried [[RefusalOfTheCall refusing the call]], but nobody would let her -- [[IJustWantToBeNormal she just wants her life back]]! But, if you actually ''try'' this... [[spoiler:You either cause humanity to fail their [[SecretTestOfCharacter test]] and lose their free will, or, by defeating everyone trying to ''stop'' your escape, inadvertently allow demons to escape and usher in a CrapsackWorld.]] She just can't win...
Deleted line(s) 173 (click to see context) :
* ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'': Poor Yuzu. All she wants is to escape the hellhole that the locked-down Yamanote Circle has become, what with all the demons and [[YourDaysAreNumbered the Death Clock]] and [[BreakTheCutie cutie-breaking horrors]]. She tried [[RefusalOfTheCall refusing the call]], but nobody would let her -- [[IJustWantToBeNormal she just wants her life back]]! But, if you actually ''try'' this... [[spoiler:You either cause humanity to fail their [[SecretTestOfCharacter test]] and lose their free will, or, by defeating everyone trying to ''stop'' your escape, inadvertently allow demons to escape and usher in a CrapsackWorld.]] She just can't win....
Deleted line(s) 175 (click to see context) :
* [[spoiler:Ultimately double subverted]] in Hanako's route of ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'', Hisao spends most of the route complaining, in his narration and occasionally to others, that no one, not even the teachers, cares whether Hanako attends class. [[spoiler:In the good ending, he realizes that he is being overprotective and understands why Mutou allows Hanako to leave if she needs to do so.]]
[[folder:Visual Novels]]
* [[spoiler:Ultimately double subverted]] in Hanako's route of ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'', Hisao spends most of the route complaining, in his narration and occasionally to others, that no one, not even the teachers, cares whether Hanako attends class. [[spoiler:In the good ending, he realizes that he is being overprotective and understands why Mutou allows Hanako to leave if she needs to do so.]]
[[/folder]]
* [[spoiler:Ultimately double subverted]] in Hanako's route of ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'', Hisao spends most of the route complaining, in his narration and occasionally to others, that no one, not even the teachers, cares whether Hanako attends class. [[spoiler:In the good ending, he realizes that he is being overprotective and understands why Mutou allows Hanako to leave if she needs to do so.]]
[[/folder]]
* Lampshaded in ''Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob'' -- during her trial, [[http://bobadventures.thecomicseries.com/comics/945/ Galatea argues she's being unfairly shoved into this sort of role]].
* About 30% of ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'' comics follow the formula of "customer has negative opinion about Hasbro, politics, a movie, something nerdy -> store staff arrive on the scene to correct negative and therefore wrong opinion -> customer would rather not change mind -> store staff are frustrated at customer for his audacity to continue holding a negative opinion."
* About 30% of ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'' comics follow the formula of "customer has negative opinion about Hasbro, politics, a movie, something nerdy -> store staff arrive on the scene to correct negative and therefore wrong opinion -> customer would rather not change mind -> store staff are frustrated at customer for his audacity to continue holding a negative opinion."
Deleted line(s) 180 (click to see context) :
* About 30% of ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'' comics follow the formula of "customer has negative opinion about Hasbro, politics, a movie, something nerdy -> store staff arrive on the scene to correct negative and therefore wrong opinion -> customer would rather not change mind -> store staff are frustrated at customer for his audacity to continue holding a negative opinion."
Deleted line(s) 182 (click to see context) :
* Lampshaded in ''Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob'' -- during her trial, [[http://bobadventures.thecomicseries.com/comics/945/ Galatea argues she's being unfairly shoved into this sort of role.]]
* Tom the new neighbor in EdutainmentShow ''WebVideo/TheCartoonShow''. Even in the credits, just because he doesn't care much for art he gets a rocket falling on his head.
Deleted line(s) 187 (click to see context) :
* Tom the new neighbor in EdutainmentShow ''WebVideo/TheCartoonShow''. Even in the credits, just because he doesn't care much for art he gets a rocket falling on his head.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* The Danish store chain Normal has the "unique man" who makes nonsensical complaints like "why does it have to be so cheap?" and "I think you save too much money!" The implication, of course, is that normal people like the store because it's cheap.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Changed line(s) 10,11 (click to see context) from:
May overlap with SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers or SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids if the majority judges a character for their cynical/idealistic beliefs. Can easily overlap with FourthWallMyopia, if the complaint was perfectly reasonable in-universe, but seems unreasonable from the audience's perspective. It can also overlap with MadeOutToBeAJerkass when the complainer is complaining about another jerkass. Compare TallPoppySyndrome and ObsessivelyNormal. Contrast with JerkassHasAPoint, TheDissenterIsAlwaysRight, IgnoredExpert, OnlySaneMan, and ProperlyParanoid where the complainer is right. When this trope is inverted, the Complainer becomes a BlitheSpirit. Also contrast PeerPressureMakesYouEvil, where the Aesop is that you ''shouldn't'' go along with the group. See also ForgottenBirthday, where the person who bottles up his complaints about his birthday being forgotten is often found to be in the wrong in the end; also see UnacceptableTargets, wherein you are always wrong if you do not like the Unacceptable Target.
to:
May overlap with SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers or SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids if the majority judges a character for their cynical/idealistic beliefs. Can easily overlap with FourthWallMyopia, if the complaint was perfectly reasonable in-universe, but seems unreasonable from the audience's perspective. It can also overlap with MadeOutToBeAJerkass when the complainer is complaining about another jerkass. Compare TallPoppySyndrome and ObsessivelyNormal. Contrast with JerkassHasAPoint, TheDissenterIsAlwaysRight, IgnoredExpert, OnlySaneMan, and ProperlyParanoid where the complainer is right. When this trope is inverted, the Complainer becomes a BlitheSpirit. Also contrast PeerPressureMakesYouEvil, where the Aesop is that you ''shouldn't'' go along with the group. See also ForgottenBirthday, where the person who bottles up his complaints about his birthday being forgotten is often found to be in the wrong in the end; also see UnacceptableTargets, wherein you are always wrong if you do not like the Unacceptable Target.
end.
