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Now there ''are'' clouds of a sort in space, but these are objects light-years across, with enough mass in them that gravity can keep them together, and their density is far below even industrial-grade vacuums. In short, if you flew your rocket ship up to, say, the Orion Nebula, it would pretty much look like nothing was there. The density of the gases in a nebula is about 1000 particles per cubic centimeter. The air you breathe just walking around on Earth is around 2.5x10^19 particles per cubic centimeter, or about 250-million-billion times denser. The nebula's density may be 1000 times the density of the interstellar medium, but it's still a near perfect vacuum.

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Now there ''are'' clouds of a sort in space, but these are objects light-years across, with enough mass in them that gravity can keep them together, and their density is far below even industrial-grade vacuums. In short, if you flew your rocket ship up to, say, the Orion Nebula, it would pretty much look like nothing was there. The density of the gases in a nebula is about 1000 particles per cubic centimeter. The air you breathe just walking around on Earth is around 2.5x10^19 5x10[[superscript:19]] particles per cubic centimeter, or about 250-million-billion times denser. The nebula's density may be 1000 times the density of the interstellar medium, but it's still a near perfect vacuum.
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* ''Wall-E'' Has the ship Axiom parked next to a nebula.

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* ''Wall-E'' ''{{Wall-E}}'' Has the ship Axiom parked next to a nebula.
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* ''Wall-E'' Has the ship Axiom parked next to a nebula.

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** Except if the nebula extends for light-years all around, it could still block the view of other stars. The trope is specifically about nearby people being unable to see each other at a close distance.
** Also in the ''LifeTheUniverseAndEverything'', the Krikkit people have never seen stars and are entirely unaware of the night sky specifically because their planet lives inside a cloud [[spoiler: of Hactar's debris]]
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* In ''TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'', Zaphod claims that the inside of a nebula is the only place you'd see a completely blank viewport. Mind you, this is [[TedBaxter Zaphod]] talking, but the screen actually ''is'' blank until they adjust the view.
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** Don't forget the opening credits where we see the Voyager passing though a cloud just a few meters thick, yet dense enough for us to see. Voyager evoked this trope literally every episode.

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** Don't forget the opening credits where we see the Voyager passing though a cloud just a few meters kilometers thick, yet dense enough for us to see. Voyager evoked this trope literally every episode.
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* In ''{{Bionicle}}'', when the planet Spherus Magna [[EarthShatteringKaboom shattered]], the smaller planets left behind formed a gigantic Bionicle emblem in space: three planets represented the three large dots, while the "swooshes" around them were formed by, as the [[WordOfGod writer once claimed]], [[SpaceIsCold frozen]] clouds of [[AppliedPhlebotinum Energized Protodermis]] dust, which kept its shape even after 100 000 years. It gets a pass because "their physics are different".
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Far out in space, our hero's CoolShip is on the run from the BigBad and hides out in a nebula/gas field/whatever and is obscured from their pursuer's sensors. It's a misty realm where you may not even be able to see your own hand in front of your face. This trope is about what seems to be a [[OmnipresentTropes common theme]] in nearly all ScienceFiction shows: a (nearly) human-scale cloud that is inexplicably stable in space.

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Far out in space, our hero's CoolShip is on the run from the BigBad and hides out in a nebula/gas field/whatever and is obscured from their pursuer's sensors. It's a misty realm where you may not even be able to see your own hand in front of your face. This trope is about what seems to be a [[OmnipresentTropes common theme]] in nearly all ScienceFiction shows: a (nearly) human-scale cloud that is inexplicably stable in space.
space. To add to the drama, the cloud may also contain dangerous weather, with lightning bolts and the like.
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Far out in space, our hero's CoolShip is on the run from the BigBad and hides out in a nebula/gas field/whatever and is obscured from their pursuer's sensors. It's a misty realm where you may not even be able to see your own hand in front of your face.

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Far out in space, our hero's CoolShip is on the run from the BigBad and hides out in a nebula/gas field/whatever and is obscured from their pursuer's sensors. It's a misty realm where you may not even be able to see your own hand in front of your face.
face. This trope is about what seems to be a [[OmnipresentTropes common theme]] in nearly all ScienceFiction shows: a (nearly) human-scale cloud that is inexplicably stable in space.



Now there ''are'' clouds of a sort in space, but these are objects light-years across, with enough mass in them that gravity can keep them together, and their density is far below even industrial-grade vacuums. In short, if you flew your rocket ship up to, say, the Orion Nebula, it would pretty much look like nothing was there. This trope is about what seems to be a [[OmnipresentTropes common theme]] in nearly all ScienceFiction shows: a (nearly) human-scale cloud that is inexplicably stable in space.

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Now there ''are'' clouds of a sort in space, but these are objects light-years across, with enough mass in them that gravity can keep them together, and their density is far below even industrial-grade vacuums. In short, if you flew your rocket ship up to, say, the Orion Nebula, it would pretty much look like nothing was there. This trope The density of the gases in a nebula is about what seems to 1000 particles per cubic centimeter. The air you breathe just walking around on Earth is around 2.5x10^19 particles per cubic centimeter, or about 250-million-billion times denser. The nebula's density may be 1000 times the density of the interstellar medium, but it's still a [[OmnipresentTropes common theme]] in nearly all ScienceFiction shows: a (nearly) human-scale cloud that is inexplicably stable in space.
near perfect vacuum.



Compare AsteroidThicket. A version of SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay.

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Compare AsteroidThicket. A version subtrope of SpaceDoesNotWorkThatWay.
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* In the ''StarTrekVoyager'' episode ''Year of Hell,'' a crippled ''Voyager'' hides inside of a nebula so dense that it produces a visible fog ''inside'' the ship's corridors. Captain Janeway even orders the hull breaches sealed to avoid having an "indoor nebula."

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* In the ''StarTrekVoyager'' episode ''Year "Year of Hell,'' Hell", a crippled ''Voyager'' hides inside of a nebula so dense that it produces a visible fog ''inside'' the ship's corridors. Captain Janeway even orders the hull breaches sealed to avoid having an "indoor nebula."
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** However, this trope is also semi-averted, at least visually. When you look at the star maps to route your hyperjumps, large clouds formations are shown. However, the actual systems inside those clouds are no different to any of the others, cosmetically.
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* ''TachyonTheFringe'' has the Twilight Region, which is a giant nebula that obscures most sensors. In fact, you need special sensors and radiation screens just to survive there. The "fog" is even seeping inside the Deep Fringe Array station. It also drives people insane after prolonged exposure, although the radiation may have something to do with it. Scientists in the game agree that the fog is unnatural and try to study it.
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To add to the confusion, some of the most famous pictures taken of outer-space phenomena are in false-color -- to help illustrate some aspect of it, such as ultraviolet radiation. This information is not commonly provided in images released to the public, and "true color" pictures of these stellar phenomena are not as easy to find, which means artists are more likely to use the wrong images as a basis for what they look like to human eyes.

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To add to the confusion, some of the most famous pictures taken of outer-space phenomena are in false-color -- to help illustrate some aspect of it, such as ultraviolet radiation. This information is not commonly provided in images released to the public, and "true color"[[hottip:*:(Though astronomers generally use this term for pictures that attempt to reproduce visually accurate colors, they hate the term because they contest that there is no real "true color" of an object, as it is always subtly changing due to changes in the environment of the object. Some astronomers prefer using "natural color" or "approximate true color" instead.)]] pictures of these stellar phenomena are not as easy to find, which means artists are more likely to use the wrong images as a basis for what they look like to human eyes.
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To add to the confusion, some of the most famous pictures taken of outer-space phenomena are in false-color -- to help illustrate some aspect of it, such as ultraviolet radiation. This means that even if we were 'right there,' it still wouldn't look the way we might expect it to.

This trope has grown in popularity in direct proportion to the number and quality of images returned by the Hubble Space Telescope.

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To add to the confusion, some of the most famous pictures taken of outer-space phenomena are in false-color -- to help illustrate some aspect of it, such as ultraviolet radiation. This information is not commonly provided in images released to the public, and "true color" pictures of these stellar phenomena are not as easy to find, which means that even if we were 'right there,' it still wouldn't artists are more likely to use the wrong images as a basis for what they look the way we might expect it to.

like to human eyes.

This trope has grown in popularity in direct proportion to the number and quality of images returned by the Hubble Space Telescope.
Telescope (and other observatories). It's quickly becoming a case of RealityIsUnrealistic.
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* The various ''{{Homeworld}}'' games have mission areas which take place inside nebulae, and they are often used story-wise as cover against detection (though visibility is usually not significantly reduced while in one). Areas inside nebulae often contain wisp-like strands of stellar gas that function as harvestable resources, but beyond that the missions may as well be taking place in open space.
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* ''BattlestarGalactica'' makes the nebulae-are-visible-close-up mistake. Though it serves only as a landmark.

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* ''BattlestarGalactica'' makes the nebulae-are-visible-close-up mistake. Though it serves only as a landmark.
Especially with lee flying through low-visibility conditions in the Ionian nebula.
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** Don't forget the opening credits where we see the Voyager passing though a cloud just a few meters thick, just dense enough for us to see. Voyager evoked this trope literally every episode.

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** Don't forget the opening credits where we see the Voyager passing though a cloud just a few meters thick, just yet dense enough for us to see. Voyager evoked this trope literally every episode.
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** Don't forget the opening credits where we see the Voyager passing though a cloud just a few meters thick, just dense enough for us to see. Voyager evoked this trope literally every episode.
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* The Mutara Nebula in ''{{Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan}}'' is [[TropeCodifier one of the best-known and most imitated examples]].
* The Ion Cloud around Mr. Universe's planet in ''{{Serenity}}''. JossWhedon admitted that he knew exactly how unscientific this was, but he needed it there for the [[RuleOfCool completely awesome]] battle scene.



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* The Mutara Nebula in ''{{Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan}}'' is [[TropeCodifier one of the best-known and most imitated examples]].
* The Ion Cloud around Mr. Universe's planet in ''{{Serenity}}''. JossWhedon admitted that he knew exactly how unscientific this was, but he needed it there for the [[RuleOfCool completely awesome]] battle scene.
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* ''BattlestarGalactica'' makes the nebulae-are-visible-close-up mistake. Though it serves only as a landmark.
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* In the ''Star Trek Voyager'' episode ''Year of Hell,'' a crippled ''Voyager'' hides inside of a nebula so dense that it produces a visible fog ''inside'' the ship's corridors. Captain Janeway even orders the hull breaches sealed to avoid having an "indoor nebula."

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* In the ''Star Trek Voyager'' ''StarTrekVoyager'' episode ''Year of Hell,'' a crippled ''Voyager'' hides inside of a nebula so dense that it produces a visible fog ''inside'' the ship's corridors. Captain Janeway even orders the hull breaches sealed to avoid having an "indoor nebula."
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*''StarWarsTheCloneWars'' portrayal of nebulas fits perfectly: you literally only can see objects a few meters away from your viewport.
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* The Ion Cloud around Mr. Universe's planet in ''{{Serenity}}''. JossWhedon admitted that he knew exactly how unscientific this was, but he needed it there for the [[RuleOfCool completely awesome]] battle scene.

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In the real world, this does not happen. Simply put, there's ''no force'' that could keep such a dense cloud of gas together. It would quickly disperse due to intermolecular collisions and thin out into the interstellar medium.

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In the real world, this does not happen. Simply put, there's ''no force'' that could keep such a dense cloud of gas together. It would quickly disperse due to intermolecular collisions and thin out into the interstellar medium. Or if it did have sufficient mass or was being compressed by, say, the shockwave from a nearby super nova, it would collapse into a star.


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This trope has grown in popularity in direct proportion to the number and quality of images returned by the Hubble Space Telescope.
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* ''{{Freespace}}'' has nebulae that look like really thick technicolor soup when you fly through them, obscuring things from your radar except at close range, and limiting sight range to under a kilometer. They also have frequent lightning storms which, when intense enough, wreak EMP-related havoc with your ship's HUD.
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* In the ''Star Trek Voyager'' episode ''Year of Hell,'' a crippled ''Voyager'' hides inside of a nebula so dense that it produces a visible fog ''inside'' the ship's corridors. Captain Janeway even orders the hull breaches sealed to avoid having an "indoor nebula."
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* In ''Star Wars: Empire at War'', nebula fields disable special abilities when one flies into them. Ion storms (which look almost the same, except with Space Lightning) do exactly the same thing, in addition to disabling ships' DeflectorShields.

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* In ''Star Wars: Empire at War'', nebula fields disable special abilities when one flies sends a ship into them. Ion storms (which look almost the same, except with Space Lightning) do exactly the same thing, in addition to disabling a ships' DeflectorShields.
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* In ''Star Wars: Empire at War'', nebula fields disable special abilities when one flies into them. Ion storms (which look almost the same, except with Space Lightning) do exactly the same thing, in addition to disabling ships' DeflectorShields.
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To add to the confusion, some of the most famous pictures taken of outer-space phenomena are in false-color -- to help illustrate some aspect of it, such as ultraviolet radiation. This means that even if we were 'right there,' it still wouldn't look the way we might expect it to.

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