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* An In-Universe example from ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'', with Darius seeing Hunter as one. When he was younger, Darius was mentored by the [[TheDragon Golden Guard]], a powerful witch with a massive rebellious streak who he clearly became very close to. The Golden Guard disappeared under mysterious circumstances one day, and while Darius was grieving that loss, the title of Golden Guard was given to Belos's nephew Hunter, a loud, moody teenager who would take orders from ''anyone'' if they offered him even the slightest scrap of approval. Darius spent years taking his grief out on Hunter, believing he didn't deserve to have the title that used to belong to his mentor, and wilfully blinding himself to the fact that Hunter was being severely abused by Belos. Darius ends up warming up to Hunter after he disobeys a direct order to protect his new friends in "Any Sport in a Storm" -- but by this point the abuse had been going on for ''years''.
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* This concept might go a long way in explaining ''why'' Xavier is the least celebrated of the men to have held the Wrestling/RingOfHonor Championship belt. The first champion Wrestling/LowKi was naturally a contender for the most popular man in the promotion but his title reign was over almost as soon as it got started, in favor of a man with a superficially similar wrestling style but lacking Low Ki's distinctive look, aggression, intensity and BadAssBaritone on top of being a DirtyCoward instead of a SpiritedCompetitor ChallengeSeeker. And while a title match between Low Ki and Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels would have been the most predictable way to go, [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools it wasn't as if fans would have complained about it]].

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* This concept might go a long way in explaining ''why'' Xavier is the least celebrated of the men to have held the Wrestling/RingOfHonor Championship belt. The first champion Wrestling/LowKi was naturally a contender for the most popular man in the promotion but his title reign was over almost as soon as it got started, in favor of a man with a superficially similar wrestling style but lacking Low Ki's distinctive look, aggression, intensity and BadAssBaritone BaritoneOfStrength on top of being a DirtyCoward instead of a SpiritedCompetitor ChallengeSeeker. And while a title match between Low Ki and Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels would have been the most predictable way to go, [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools it wasn't as if fans would have complained about it]].
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** Emily was considered to be this by some fans for a while, the need for a prominent female character leading her to take the role of eighth Steam Team member, which left Duck DemotedToExtra. Some fans also considered her introduction pointless due to the existence of Daisy and Mavis, two female characters who were popular with the fans, were well-developed and had interesting personalities. Especially telling is that while Emily was promoted to main cast in Season 8, there was no effort made to make the other female characters (not even the coaches) more prominent, thus defeating the intention to be politically correct. She ended up being a fairly popular, or at least tolerable, character once most of the fanbase warmed up to her. The "Emily replaced Duck!" issue was acknowledged in a rather cruel light in Season 18's "[[Recap/ThomasAndFriendsS18E8DuckAndTheSlipCoaches Duck and the Slip Coaches]]", where Emily comes to the sheds twice and finds them full due to Duck taking residence for those nights. These scenes alone caused quite a ruckus.
** Nia and Rebecca, two new female engines introduced to the series in ''Big World! Big Adventures!'' (aka Season 22) get a lot of flak for replacing Edward and Henry, two of the main members of the Steam Team. Most of the reasons why Nia and Rebecca are hated include: being created solely to add more female members to the main cast, satisfying the MoralGuardians who criticised the series for being sexist and misogynistic, having one-dimensional character traits, having a generic friendly personality, designs that look out-of-place with the main cast, overdesigned liveries designed purely for eye candy towards young children, as well as Nia being a TokenMinority designed in an attempt to please People of Colour (coupled with Nia’s voice actress being black-skinned and of African background). Some fans even slam both of the new girls as self-inserts due to a lack of character flaws. Due to these factors, fans view Nia and Rebecca's introduction as Political Correctness.
** Longtime fans of Jack and the Pack have not taken well to Brenda taking Byron's position as the Sodor Construction Company's bulldozer in the ''WesternAnimation/DigsAndDiscoveries'' special. As Byron was not one of the members of the Pack carried over from the show's [[ShiftedToCGi transition from scale train models to CGi]], some fans worry that Byron is unlikely to return to the series due to Brenda's introduction.

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** Emily was considered to be this by some fans for a while, the need for a prominent female character leading as her to take the role of the eighth Steam Team member, which member left Duck DemotedToExtra. Some fans also considered her introduction pointless due to the existence of Daisy and Mavis, two female characters who were popular with the fans, were well-developed and had interesting personalities. Especially telling is that while Emily was promoted to main cast in Season 8, there was no effort made to make the other female characters (not even the coaches) more prominent, thus defeating the intention to be politically correct. She ended up being a fairly popular, or at least tolerable, character once most of the fanbase warmed up to her. The "Emily replaced Duck!" issue was acknowledged in a rather cruel light in Season 18's "[[Recap/ThomasAndFriendsS18E8DuckAndTheSlipCoaches Duck and the Slip Coaches]]", where Emily comes to the sheds twice and finds them full due to Duck taking residence for those nights. These scenes alone caused quite a ruckus.
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** Longtime fans of Jack and the Pack have not taken well to Brenda taking Byron's position as the Sodor Construction Company's bulldozer in the ''WesternAnimation/DigsAndDiscoveries'' special. As Byron was not one of the members of the Pack carried over from the show's [[ShiftedToCGi transition from scale train models to CGi]], some fans worry that Byron is unlikely to return to the series due to Brenda's introduction.
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* What had been Sarah's early morning show - cut in length and pushed back to a far earlier starting time to accommodate Evans - is currently being presented by her successor, Vanessa Feldtz, a woman who had an embarrassingly public CreatorBreakdown on ''Celebrity Big Brother''. Fans of Sarah Kennedy tend to consider Vanessa is pretty much a Replacement Scrappy.
** When Radio/ChrisEvans announced he would leave the morning show (in September 2018), it was feared that his fan-base would regard the eventual successor as a Replacement Scrappy and that person was going to have a tough time. This ended up being more or less averted, however; said successor turned out to be Creator/ZoeBall, who got some flak, but not as much as was anticipated.

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* What had been Sarah's early morning show - cut in length and pushed back to a far earlier starting time to accommodate Evans - is currently being presented by her successor, Vanessa Feldtz, Feltz, a woman who had an embarrassingly public CreatorBreakdown on ''Celebrity Big Brother''. Fans of Sarah Kennedy tend to consider Vanessa is pretty much a Replacement Scrappy.
** When Radio/ChrisEvans announced he would leave the morning breakfast show (in September 2018), it was feared that his fan-base would regard the eventual successor as a Replacement Scrappy and that person was going to have a tough time. This ended up being more or less averted, however; said successor turned out to be Creator/ZoeBall, who got some flak, but not as much as was anticipated.
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* Creator/ValerieLemercier's roles in ''Film/LesVisiteurs'', Frénégonde de Pouille and Béatrice de Montmirail, were among the most lauded things about the film, especially her {{Sour Prude|s}} portrayal of Béatrice, to the point she won a César Award for Best Supporting Role. She refused to come back for the sequel, ''The Corridors of Time'', and was replaced in both roles by Muriel Robin (complete with a FlashbackWithTheOtherDarrin) and it didn't sit well -- she looks nothing like Lemercier, the writing of her Béatrice lacks the wit and nuance of Lemercier or interesting things to do, and she poorly tries to imitate the posh accent Lemercier had.

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Most of the Sports and all of the Music examples involve a real life person being considered a Replacement Scrappy because they replace another real life person. Given that this trope is a No Real Life Examples trope, I've cut all of those real life examples. I've kept one example of people disliking a change in commercials in the sports section, which is maybe OK? I brought this up in the Real Life section maintenance thread and the Music Real Life Troping Cleanup thread in the Projects:Long Term/Perpetual forums and didn't get any complaints about it.


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* Kenny Jones, successor to drummer Keith Moon of Music/TheWho, is this to many people - to the point where singer Roger Daltrey refused to do reunion tours with the group unless Jones was dismissed. Perhaps due to the passage of time, Jones' replacement Zak "Son of [[Music/RingoStarr Ringo]]" Starkey and the late John Entwistle's substitute bassist Pino Palladino have fared better.
** In a late-90's interview, Daltrey described Jones as "a great drummer and a good friend, but he wasn't the right guy". If you listen, Jones' playing was very sedate compared to the manic style of Moon.
* In music there's the fans reactions to the many incarnations of Music/QueensOfTheStoneAge - "What happened to Nick Oliveri?", "Dave Grohl was a way better drummer than this guy", "Mark Lanegan should be the singer", "Josh should just reform Kyuss..."
* Before the worldwide phenomenon that was [[Music/TheBeatles Beatlemania]], a fair number of their O.G. British fans resented the fact that Music/RingoStarr replaced [[ThePeteBest Pete Best]] on drums. The exact reason for Best being fired varies depending on where you hear it from, being either because he didn't fit in with John, George, and Paul, he was too moody, or Brian Epstein not thinking he was a good enough drummer. At the time, Pete was the most popular member of the group in their home of Liverpool, and fans would carry signs saying, "Ringo Never, Pete Forever" at their concerts.
* Many Music/{{Metallica}} fans (including the other band members themselves) are guilty of heaping unnecessary scorn on Music/JasonNewsted because he had the misfortune of replacing the late, lamented Cliff Burton on bass. Metallica themselves shared the sentiment, constantly treating Newsted like "the newbie" and burying his bass work in the mixes. Newsted eventually left the band over his poor treatment, and while his replacement, Robert Trujillo, gets some redirected scorn from fans, the band themselves absolutely love him, openly calling him "the man who saved Metallica."
* Sammy Hagar. There's a reason people refuse to call the Hagar-era band Music/VanHalen...
** And for a case that even Sammy's fans disliked, there's [[FanonDiscontinuity a fair bit of denial]] that Van Halen did a record with Gary Cherone.
** Eddie's son Wolfgang, who replaced Michael Anthony on bass, gets unfairly treated this way at times--at least a large amount of this by fans who wanted Anthony to return, and/or who objected to Anthony being replaced unceremoniously by Wolfgang prior to the release of ''A Different Kind Of Truth''. Eddie, in the meantime, was open to a reunion, but credited his inspiration for the new album to jamming with Alex and Wolfgang in Eddie's studio (and unfortunately, he died without having fully patched things with either Mike or Sammy).
* Music/{{Queen}} with [[Music/BadCompany Paul Rodgers]]; it isn't that he's a bad singer, it's just that Freddie is one ''hell'' of a tough act to follow. Even the band themselves insist on being known as [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg "Queen + Paul Rodgers"]].
** Even more so with Music/AdamLambert now on lead vocals.
* Similarly, Music/{{INXS}} with J.D. Fortune isn't INXS, or Music/TheDoors with [[Music/TheCult Ian Astbury]] isn't The Doors.
* The Finnish monster rock band Music/{{Lordi}} has had this problem. To date, they've replaced the bassist four times (Magnum -> G-Stealer -> Kalma -> OX -> Hiisi), the pianist twice (Enary -> Awa -> Hella) and the drummer also twice (Kita -> Otus -> Mana). While very few fans can deny that the quality of the music has never diminished after a switch, and has often improved, the new band member's costume can cause fits in the fandom (for example, Enary, the [[CuteMonsterGirl busty blonde valkyrie]], being replaced with Awa, the grey corpse-like ghost/witch.)
* William [=DuVall=] in Music/AliceInChains. He's not Layne Staley and most fans just can't accept that.
** Funny enough, before the band landed on who would be the new singer, fans were worried that they would choose one of Layne's [[FollowTheLeader many imitators]] like [[Music/{{Godsmack}} Sully Erna]], [[Music/LinkinPark Chester Bennington]] or [[Music/{{Staind}} Aaron Lewis]]. When they chose someone who sounds decidedly different, [[UnpleasableFanbase many of the same fans were complaining about how the band chose someone who ''didn't'' sound like Staley]].
*** [=DuVall=] was probably the safest choice (short of not reuniting at all, naturally); he had been singing Layne's parts with Jerry Cantrell's solo band for some time and fans seemed to think he did a respectable job. It seemed like the issue was not [=DuVall=] as a vocalist, but as a replacement for Layne regardless of who.
* Ever since Scott Weiland was fired from Music/StoneTemplePilots, fans and radio DJ's will still often refer to them as "Stone Temple Pilots [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg with]] [[Music/LinkinPark Chester Bennington]]".
** Chester's brief time in the band has been somewhat vindicated by history after his tragic passing in 2017. His replacement, Jeff Gutt, has much bigger shoes to fill.
* This is very common in female-fronted metal:
** Music/{{Nightwish|Band}}: After Tarja Turunen was replaced with Anette Olzon, the latter was quickly disliked for not having the strong vocal range of her predecessor and then Olzon was controversially dismissed and replaced with Floor Jansen, who has suffered a similar response from not only Tarja fans but also fans who liked ''Olzon'' as frontwoman!
*** The ''vast'' majority of fans welcomed Floor, though - she is well known for having one of the best voices in metal and is able to hit similar notes to Tarja. Anette was disliked because her voice had more of a "pop" or "rock" sound in comparison to Tarja's operatic one, which resulted in ''heavy'' fan backlash to the point where she had a HeroicBSOD on-stage at a concert and had to leave[[note]]fans had been flipping her the bird and calling out things like "We want Tarja!"[[/note]].
** Music/TheAgonist and Music/ArchEnemy have a similar one. In The Agonist, Alissa White-Gluz was the first vocalist (and one of the founding members) but she was kicked out of the band for joining Music/ArchEnemy when long-term vocalist Angela Gossow decided to call it quits. Vicky Psarakis (The Agonist) is massively hated for "not being Alissa" and Alissa has the same problem in Music/ArchEnemy for not being Angela, while Arch Enemy backing Alissa just isn't the same as The Agonist.
** Music/{{Tristania}} was often considered to not be the same after Vibeke Stene left and the Italian Mary Demurtas took over. A good portion of this is due to the differing vocal styles of the two - Vibeke is a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinto_soprano spinto soprano]], while Mary is a low [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezzo-soprano mezzo-soprano]] (maybe even close to a contralto).
** Then there's the case of Amberian Dawn after Heidi Parviainen (lyric soprano) left to form Music/DarkSarah, being replaced by Päivi "Capri" Virkkunen (mezzo-soprano). Capri has faced constant criticism for sounding more "pop-rock" than Heidi, and has been derided by fans because they consider her to be unattractive. [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnLLxQZWIAAZoIr.jpg Yep.]]
** The same goes for Music/TheatreOfTragedy and Music/LeavesEyes following the departures of Liv Kristine.
** A tragic example occurs with the band [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elis_%28band%29 Elis]] from Liechtenstein, whose first singer unexpectedly succumbed to a cerebral hemorrhage in 2006. Given the circumstances, the fans contained themselves, but the two following singers never managed to step out of the shadow of Sabine Dünser.
* Likewise, Tim 'Ripper' Owens was hated by many Music/JudasPriest and Iced Earth fans for not being Rob Halford or Matt Barlow, even though he's a very talented vocalist in his own right.
** However, being fired right around Christmas just to bring back Matt Barlow lead to a thankfully death-free version of AlasPoorScrappy. Which was kind of sad because many Music/IcedEarth fans had ''just'' started to accept Ripper.
*** On the other hand, there have been relatively few complaints about Stu Block, who came in after Barlow left again, largely thanks to his ability to sound like a dead ringer for either Barlow or Ripper when he so chooses without compromising his own unique sound.
** Similarly, [[Music/IronMaiden Blaze Bayley is not]] Music/BruceDickinson.
* Music/{{Accept}} lost a considerable amount of fans after replacing vocalist Udo Dirkschneider with David Reece and drastically changed their sound on their ''Eat The Heat'' album, after which they wisely took back Udo.
* Also likewise, Mike [=DiMeo=] is hated by Masterplan fans for not being the almost identically styled Jorn Lande.
* After Music/DrowningPool vocalist Dave Williams' sudden death, a lot of fans found it difficult to accept his replacement vocalist Jason Jones (which likely contributed to his departure from the band), and after Jones quit, his replacement vocalist, ''Soil'' singer Ryan [=McCombs=] was slightly more accepted, though still considered inferior to Williams. Jasen Moreno, meanwhile was widely considered a step down from [=McCombs=].
* Even though it's been almost fifteen years, many fans of Music/{{Helloween}} ''still'' do not accept their current vocalist Andi Deris. Deris has been with the band longer than both Michael Kiske and Kai Hansen ''combined''! It doesn't help that Kiske was the vocalist for Helloween's most successful albums, ''Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt. 1 & Pt. 2''.
* An odd example happened early on with the new drummer brought in to back up Music/TheyMightBeGiants on "John Henry". What was so odd? He replaced a drum machine. Some fans protested the move, although everyone has since gotten over it.
* When Vince Neil left Music/MotleyCrue in the early '90s, they decided to replace him with John Corabi for their ironically self-titled album in 1994. They would retroactively blame its poor sales on "the new ingredient", as stated in ''BehindTheMusic''.
* Music/{{Kamelot}} has a rare inversion. Original vocalist Mark Vanderbilt is now disliked by most of the fandom, however, considering his mediocre to awful singing style, and replacement by the classically trained opera styled Roy Khan previously of the ProgressiveMetal band Music/{{Conception}}, you can't blame them.
** Averted completely following Khan's departure and the introduction of Tommy Karevik - it helps that Karevik sounds remarkably similar to Khan.
* Once health problems forced Brian Johnson to leave Music/{{ACDC}} in the middle of a tour, his replacement [[Music/GunsNRoses Axl Rose]] divided many fans alike.
* Some fans of Music/CollectiveSoul will tell you that the band has two eras: Ross Childress on lead guitar and post-Ross Childress on lead guitar. Made all the worse by the fact that the circumstances of Childress's departure mean that he is never, ever coming back, and while both the guitarists the band has had since his departure are great musicians, your average fan will tell you that it was Childress's guitar playing that set the group apart and neither man could be anything other than a place-holder.
* Various people dislike Michael Tait taking over as lead singer for the Newsboys despite him being a decent singer, simply because he doesn't sound like previous lead Peter Furler.
* Music/{{Genesis|Band}}: Collins' replacement Ray Wilson, whose sole album as Genesis frontman, ''Calling All Stations'' was not well received by fans and critics due to its AlternativeRock sound and it's no wonder that no songs were performed when the band reunited with Collins for the [[PuttingTheBandBackTogether 2006-07 reunion tour]].
* Country music band Music/{{Lonestar}} was heavily criticized during the period in which Cody Collins (who previously fronted another short-lived country band called [=McAlyster=]) replaced longtime lead singer Richie [=McDonald=] from 2007 to 2011. Although [=McDonald=] was already derided for delving into oversung {{narm}}, whatever fans the band had left felt that Collins was too bland and that the band just didn't sound the same. [=McDonald=] ultimately rejoined in 2011.
* There still are Music.{{Angra}} fans embittered that Edu Falaschi replaced Andre Matos as lead singer (despite Matos' leaving being of his own will, and being from a more complicated matter than musical differences). One of their main complaints about Falaschi is that he couldn't even sing the band's signature song, "Carry On", without slipping out of tune.
* This happened to Music/{{Sepultura}} when Derrick Green replaced Max Cavalera. Curiously, Jean Dolabella didn't receive as much flak when he substituted Igor Cavalera on drums, both because the two albums he recorded (''A-Lex'' and ''Kairos'') were well received and because everyone (even in the band) was waiting for Igor to follow his bro, and Eloy Casagrande was given an even warmer reception after ''he'' replaced Dolabella.
* Many fans of Music/{{Exodus|Band}} hate their latest vocalist Rob Dukes, partially because of his drastically different style of singing than Paul Baloff and Steve 'Zetro' Souza, their previous two singers, though they also have their own reasons. The fact that the band chose to re-record their landmark debut album with him didn't help ''at all''. However, the band has only released 3 original albums with Dukes, so they still have time to warm up to him.
* Music/FaithNoMore both inverted and played this one straight. Inverted in that their singer on the first two albums, Chuck Mosely, was unceremoniously fired from the band and replaced by Music/MikePatton, and you can count the number of people who thought this was a bad thing on the fingers of one hand. However, since Jim Martin departed in 1993 following the release of ''Angel Dust'', a series of guitarists appeared and each one was given grief simply for not being Jim. Even when they reformed in 2009 with the same lineup they had since 1996, some people were upset because Jim wasn't involved.
* Quite possibly Music/GunsNRoses second drummer, Matt Sorum. Axl Rose described other former members of the band as 'former members', but described Sorum as a 'former employee'. It probably didn't help that the guy he replaced, Steven Adler (whose heroin addiction was so bad he could barely stay awake during recording sessions) happens to be a childhood friend of Music/{{Slash|Musician}}.
** And then it was everyone in the band aside from Axl himself and longtime keyboardist Dizzy Reed, the only members appearing on any albums before ''Chinese Democracy''. At least until Axl made amends with Slash and Duff [=McKagan=] to bring them back.
* Jake E. Lee, who played guitar with Music/OzzyOsbourne after the tragic death of Randy Rhoads. Fans would hold up pictures of Rhoads during concerts and flip Jake middle fingers during his solos. Jake was ultimately fired by Sharon Osbourne after the 1987 release of the ''Randy Rhoads Tribute'' live album. His replacement, Zakk Wylde, fared much better, though Lee ultimately became VindicatedByHistory as a very creative, unique, and interesting guitarist who did his own thing instead of blindly copying Rhoads and ultimately became a subversion.
* The Music/DeadKennedys have never been able to really recover after the bands reunion without [[FaceOfTheBand Jello Biafra]].
* Any Music/{{Yes}} vocalist not named Jon Anderson, and to a lesser extent any keyboardist other than Rick Wakeman and any guitarist other than Steve Howe are generally regarded as replacement scrappies by at least some large part of Yes' infamously fragmented fanbase.
** The band's stint with Trevor Rabin replacing Howe on guitar in the 1980's is a BrokenBase among fans. Some say he saved the band from extinction and updated their sound, others say he ruined them by turning them into a pop band.
* A very vocal portion of the Music/{{KISS}} Army consider Eric Singer and Tommy Thayer Replacement Scrappies, despite having been in the band longer than the original members they replaced.
* Ask an Music/{{Obituary}} fan about their opinion on Ralph Santolla's run with the band. If they don't refer to him as "that drunken retard who had to play some ridiculously overblown guitar solo every thirty seconds", then you have made a very, very, ''very'' rare find. While somewhat divisive with Music/{{Deicide}} fans, most of them enjoyed ''The Stench of Redemption'' and didn't place all of the blame on him for the lackluster quality of the other two Santolla-era Deicide albums. Obituary fans, on the other hand, ''despise'' him, wish that they had never hired him to replace Allen West, and [[FanonDiscontinuity like to pretend that the two albums that he was on never existed]].
* For many of {{Music/Chicago}}'s longtime, die-hard fans, any guitarist whose name isn't Terry Kath.
* When brothers Ricky Lee and Doug Phelps left Music/TheKentuckyHeadhunters in 1992 to form Brother Phelps, their respective roles as lead singer and bassist were taken over by Mark S. Orr and Anthony Kenney. (Kenney had previously played in an earlier incarnation of the band in TheSeventies.) Orr was hated by fans, critics, and even rhythm guitarist Richard Young for having a more scratchy delivery better suited for blues or R&B than for twangy Southern rock. After doing only two albums (one a collaboration with blues pianist Johnnie Johnson) and a cover of Music/TheBeatles' "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" for a tribute album, Orr quit in 1995 over CreativeDifferences. This was averted when Doug returned to the band and took over on lead vocals, as his style is very similar to that of his brother's.
* Joe Lynn Turner is a successful and prolific hard rock singer, mostly remembered for being in Ritchie Blackmore's Music/{{Rainbow}} in the eighties until Blackmore disbanded Rainbow to rejoin Music/DeepPurple. When enmity between Blackmore and Deep Purple singer Ian Gillan led to the latter being fired, Blackmore eventually recruited Turner to replace him. The fans did not like this change at all, and faced with the rest of the band (and the record company) demanding Gillan's return, Blackmore agreed to drop Turner. Adding insult to injury, all the material Turner had written for the next album was handed over to Gillan to rework as his own.
** This is adding insult to injury, because Joe Lynn Turner was already a Replacement Scrappy in Rainbow - he replaced legend in his own right Music/RonnieJamesDio, and his time with Rainbow is considered the band's AudienceAlienatingEra. (Even Dio dissed the new incarnation of Rainbow, referring to them as [[PretenderDiss "Foreigner Junior"]])
* Music/ThreeDaysGrace fans have had a hard time accepting Matt Walst, Adam Gontier's replacement. For most, it was a letdown that Gontier left in the first place - his timing couldn't have been worse, and his immediate excuse was seen as flimsy as well - and Walst was just salt in the wound. That being said, casual fans still liked them, and their songs still soared to the top of the rock charts. Gontier's follow-up band Saint Asonia, while only achieving modest radio success, has largely avoided this, and most die-hard 3DG fans prefer Saint Asonia to Walst's band.
* When Paul Bostaph replaced Dave Lombardo in Music/{{Slayer}} he was almost immediately hated by fans for being an inferior replacement. He is a very good drummer himself, but he just happened to replace the most acclaimed drummer in all thrash metal. The fact that his joining coincided with Slayer entering the 90s AudienceAlienatingEra didn't help.
* While Music/{{Suffocation}} fans didn't ''dislike'' Ricky Myers at all (indeed, the consensus was that he did a very solid job as their touring vocalist), they made it very clear that they would have much rather had Frank Mullen up onstage than Myers. This has surprisingly been subverted with Kevin Muller; while they still miss Frank, Kevin's energy and surprising vocal similarity to a young Frank has managed to win over most of the fanbase.
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* Whenever a prominent/legendary athlete retires or leaves his longtime team via a trade or free agency, his replacement at that position is almost certain to become this. We say "almost", because the replacement could become legendary in his own right (see Steve Young replacing Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers replacing Brett Favre, Cory Schneider replacing Martin Brodeur, Didi Gregorius replacing Derek Jeter, or Andrew Luck replacing Creator/PeytonManning, for instance).



* Jason Giambi had to deal with this TWICE, being Mark [=McGwire's=] replacement in Oakland and then replacing fan favorite Tino Martinez (who had been a mainstay for four World Series championship teams) with the Yankees. Martinez could likely sympathize, as he had replaced Don Mattingly in New York and went from there to St. Louis to replace [=McGwire.=]
* After the Boston Red Sox suffered a major collapse in September 2011 that cost them a trip to the World Series, manager Terry Francona, who had led the Sox to ''two'' World Series wins, was fired, and replaced by Bobby Valentine, who has repeatedly come off as a disrespectful jerk, and has actually sent the Sox close to [[TheMillstone last place in the MLB]].
* With [[UsefulNotes/{{Tennis}} Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal]] having been living legends in the sport of tennis for so long, it's safe to say that ''anyone'' who replaced them as the World No. 1 would be doomed from the very start to be unable to live up to his universally beloved predecessors in many tennis fans' eyes. Add to that how Novak Djokovic tends to be somewhat of a LargeHam in contrast to [[TheStoic Federer]] and [[HumbleHero Nadal]] and how his ascension to the No. 1 spot in 2011 included inflicting a series of painful losses on both of them, and you have the sports equivalent of this trope. Djokovic's gained his own large fanbase since then, but there are still some fans who will never forgive him for not being Federer or Nadal.
* UsefulNotes/AustralianRulesFootball: When the Fitzroy Lions were forced to merge with the Brisbane Bears to become the Brisbane Lions at the end of the 1996 season, many Fitzroy fans saw the new entity as this... at least, until they won the premiership in 2001, and then went on to make it three in a row in the next two years. On the other hand, the Fitzroy loyalists who follow the '''Victorian''' team are still going strong and don't give two hoots about the Brisbane club so this trope still applies in good doses. It's especially painful when the AFL introduced clubs in areas of the country that are nowhere near as hardcore about the sport just to attract new markets.
* Carlos Reutemann filled in for UsefulNotes/NikiLauda when the latter nearly died in a horrific crash in Nurburgring. Needless to say, Lauda wasn't all that pleased with having him around in the team.
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* In 2014, [=McDonald=]'s began [[AbandonedMascot phasing out]] their long-time mascot Ronald [=McDonald=] for their new one: Happy, a [[AnimateInanimateObject living Happy Meal box]]. While Ronald still exists within the company, in advertising he's been replaced. The new mascot was disliked from the get-go not only for replacing Ronald but because it was [[UncannyValley creepy looking]]. Happy is also goofy and nonverbal similar to the ''Minions'', which are controversial in their own right. This has made Happy an unpopular mascot.

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* In 2014, [=McDonald=]'s began [[AbandonedMascot phasing out]] their long-time mascot Ronald [=McDonald=] for their new one: Happy, a [[AnimateInanimateObject living Happy Meal box]]. While Ronald still exists within the company, in advertising he's been replaced. The new mascot was disliked from the get-go not only for replacing Ronald but because it was [[UncannyValley creepy looking]].looking. Happy is also goofy and nonverbal similar to the ''Minions'', which are controversial in their own right. This has made Happy an unpopular mascot.



* There's a fair amount of people who [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks didn't take kindly to Hasbro's decision to redesign]] the Generation 3 line of Franchise/MyLittlePony toys. Originally looking like traditional ponies, the characters all got a SuperDeformed design that some felt was rife with the UncannyValley. The negative reaction to these [[FanNickname Generation]] 3.5 ponies may well have reached Hasbro, as the toys ran for only around one and a half years before they released Generation 4, which have proportions much closer to those of the original toys.

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* There's a fair amount of people who [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks didn't take kindly to Hasbro's decision to redesign]] the Generation 3 line of Franchise/MyLittlePony toys. Originally looking like traditional ponies, the characters all got a SuperDeformed design that some felt was rife with the UncannyValley.creepy. The negative reaction to these [[FanNickname Generation]] 3.5 ponies may well have reached Hasbro, as the toys ran for only around one and a half years before they released Generation 4, which have proportions much closer to those of the original toys.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea'': While Morgana does have her fans, general consensus is that she's simply a far weaker version of the iconic Ursula, not helped by her RememberTheNewGuy status.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameII'': [[SissyVillain Sarousch]] is generally considered to be far inferior to the iconic Frollo of the previous film, being a FlatCharacter with a nonsensical evil plan. He's even considered worse than the above-mentioned Morgana in this regard, and he's often seen as the weakest Creator/{{Disney}} villain of all.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaidIIReturnToTheSea'': While Morgana does have her fans, general consensus is that she's simply a far weaker version of the iconic Ursula, [[WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989 Ursula]], not helped by her RememberTheNewGuy status.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameII'': [[SissyVillain Sarousch]] is generally considered to be far inferior to the iconic Frollo of [[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameDisney the previous film, film]], being a FlatCharacter with a nonsensical evil plan. He's even considered worse than the above-mentioned Morgana in this regard, and he's often seen as the weakest Creator/{{Disney}} villain of all.
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* In 1989, Hershey's released its ''Christmas Bells'' commercial where the Hershey's Kisses, arranged in a Christmas tree, rang in bell tones to "We Wish You a Merry Christmas". It got a CGI update in 2012 while keeping the audio the same. Then in 2020, a new commercial was introduced where the Kisses start ringing normally until [[MomentKiller a little girl's hand swoops in and grabs one of them]]. The scene then changes to the girl baking cookies with her father set to an almost painfully "hip" remix of the song, with her putting the Kiss in one of them. Hershey's received immediate backlash, especially from people who noticed that the abducted Kiss was ''the same one that concluded the song''. Within a month, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Hershey's began to air the original commercial again]], though they still aired the new commercial indiscriminately. This didn't stop both commercials from airing the following years, however.

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* In 1989, Hershey's released its ''Christmas Bells'' commercial where the Hershey's Kisses, arranged in a Christmas tree, rang in bell tones to "We Wish You a Merry Christmas". It got a an upgrade from stop-motion to CGI update in 2012 while keeping the audio the same. Then in 2020, a new commercial was introduced where the Kisses start ringing normally until [[MomentKiller a little girl's hand swoops in and grabs one of them]]. The scene then changes to the girl baking cookies with her father set to an almost painfully "hip" remix of the song, with her putting the Kiss in one of them. Hershey's received immediate backlash, especially from people who noticed that the abducted Kiss was ''the same one that concluded the song''. Within a month, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Hershey's began to air the original commercial again]], though they still aired the new commercial indiscriminately. This didn't stop both commercials from airing the following years, however.
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* In 1989, Hershey's released its ''Christmas Bells'' commercial where the Hershey's Kisses, arranged in a Christmas tree, rang in bell tones to "We Wish You a Merry Christmas". It got a CGI update in 2012 while keeping the audio the same. Then in 2020, a new commercial was introduced where the Kisses start ringing normally until [[MomentKiller a little girl's hand swoops in and grabs one of them]]. The scene then changes to the girl baking cookies with her father set to an almost painfully "hip" remix of the song, with her putting the Kiss in one of them. Hershey's received immediate backlash, especially from people who noticed that the abducted Kiss was ''the same one that concluded the song''. Within a month, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Hershey's began to air the original commercial again]], though they still aired the new commercial indiscriminately. This didn't stop both commercials from airing the following year, however.

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* In 1989, Hershey's released its ''Christmas Bells'' commercial where the Hershey's Kisses, arranged in a Christmas tree, rang in bell tones to "We Wish You a Merry Christmas". It got a CGI update in 2012 while keeping the audio the same. Then in 2020, a new commercial was introduced where the Kisses start ringing normally until [[MomentKiller a little girl's hand swoops in and grabs one of them]]. The scene then changes to the girl baking cookies with her father set to an almost painfully "hip" remix of the song, with her putting the Kiss in one of them. Hershey's received immediate backlash, especially from people who noticed that the abducted Kiss was ''the same one that concluded the song''. Within a month, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Hershey's began to air the original commercial again]], though they still aired the new commercial indiscriminately. This didn't stop both commercials from airing the following year, years, however.
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* ''{{Film/Mean Girls 2}}'': Many fans of the original ''{{Film/Mean Girls}}'' consider the sequel with different characters unnecessary and inferior to its predecessor. The sequel counterpart of Cady Heron, Jo Mitchell, for example, is very different to Cady. When Cady starts at her new school, she has never been to a real school before, having been homeschooled. She is 16 when she starts high school. As such, she starts off very intelligent and academic, but also naïve. Jo on the other hand is a {{Tomboy}} who changes schools at least three times a year because of her fathers job, and does not get good grades. Regina George, the mean girl and Leader of the Plastics, was ruthless, calculating, manipulative and preference starting rumours and talking behind peoples backs rather than openly bullying them, while Mandi Weatherly, Regina’s sequel counterpart, is overall just spoiled and cruel, lacking manipulation skills and openly bullying Abby Hanover, Janis Ian’s counterpart. While Janis is a quirky, artsy {{Goth}} with a bitter hatred for Regina, Abby is shy and very wealthy. The only thing they really have in common is they both like Art. Gretchen Wierners and Hope Plotkin are very different as well. Gretchen is rich but insecure, secretly despising Regina but too nervous to disobey Regina or confront her unfaithful boyfriend. Hope on the other hand is a Hypochondriac, and that’s all we really get to know about her. Karen Smith is very dumb, yet sweet in the movie while her counterpart Chastity is ditzy, yet also arrogant and mean. Cady’s love interest, Aaron Samuels, is a good guy, though a {{Hypocrite}}, and is overall level-headed. Tyler Adams on the other hand is, though a nice guy, rude to his stepsister Mandi, who seems to genuinely care about him. This might be part of Mandi’s mean streak.

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* ''{{Film/Mean Girls 2}}'': Many fans of the original ''{{Film/Mean Girls}}'' consider the sequel with different characters unnecessary and inferior to its predecessor. The sequel counterpart of Cady Heron, Jo Mitchell, for example, is very different to Cady. When Cady starts at her new school, she has never been to a real school before, having been homeschooled. She is 16 when she starts high school. As such, she starts off very intelligent and academic, but also naïve. Jo on the other hand hand, is a {{Tomboy}} who changes schools at least three times a year because of her fathers father's job, and does not get good grades. Regina George, the mean girl and Leader of the Plastics, was ruthless, calculating, manipulative manipulative, and preference prefered starting rumours and talking behind peoples people's backs rather than openly bullying them, while them. While Mandi Weatherly, Regina’s sequel counterpart, is overall just spoiled and cruel, lacking manipulation skills and openly bullying Abby Hanover, Janis Ian’s counterpart. While Janis is a quirky, artsy {{Goth}} with a bitter hatred for Regina, Abby is shy and very wealthy. The only thing they really have in common is they both like Art. Gretchen Wierners and Hope Plotkin are very different as well. Gretchen is rich but insecure, secretly despising Regina but too nervous to disobey Regina or confront her unfaithful boyfriend. Hope on the other hand hand, is a Hypochondriac, and that’s all we really get to know about her. Karen Smith is very dumb, yet sweet in the movie while her counterpart Chastity is ditzy, yet also arrogant and mean. Cady’s love interest, Aaron Samuels, is a good guy, though a {{Hypocrite}}, and is overall level-headed. Tyler Adams on the other hand is, though a nice guy, rude to his stepsister Mandi, who seems to genuinely care about him. This might be part of Mandi’s mean streak.
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* {{Film/Mean Girls 2}}: Many fans of the original {{Film/Mean Girls}} consider the sequel with different characters unnecessary and inferior to its predecessor. The sequel counterpart of Cady Heron, Jo Mitchell, for example, is very different to Cady. When Cady starts at her new school, she has never been to a real school before, having been homeschooled. She is 16 when she starts high school. As such, she starts off very intelligent and academic, but also naive. Jo on the other hand is a {{Tomboy}} who changes schools at least three times a year because of her fathers job, and does not get good grades. Regina George, the mean girl and Leader of the Plastics, was ruthless, calculating, manipulative and preference starting rumours and talking behind peoples backs rather than openly bullying them, while Mandi Weatherly, Regina’s sequel counterpart, is overall just spoiled and cruel, lacking manipulation skills and openly bullying Abby Hanover, Janis Ian’s counterpart. While Janis is a quirky, artsy {{Goth}} with a bitter hatred for Regina, Abby is shy and very wealthy. The only thing they really have in common is they both like Art. Gretchen Wierners and Hope Plotkin are very different as well. Gretchen is rich but insecure, secretly despising Regina but too nervous to disobey Regina or confront her unfaithful boyfriend. Hope on the other hand is a Hypochondriac, and that’s all we really get to know about her. Karen Smith is very dumb, yet sweet in the movie while her counterpart Chastity is ditzy, yet also arrogant and mean. Cady’s love interest, Aaron Samuels, is a good guy, though a {{Hypocrite}}, and is overall level-headed. Tyler Adams on the other hand is, though a nice guy, rude to his stepsister Mandi, who seems to genuinely care about him. This might be part of Mandi’s mean streak.

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* {{Film/Mean ''{{Film/Mean Girls 2}}: 2}}'': Many fans of the original {{Film/Mean Girls}} ''{{Film/Mean Girls}}'' consider the sequel with different characters unnecessary and inferior to its predecessor. The sequel counterpart of Cady Heron, Jo Mitchell, for example, is very different to Cady. When Cady starts at her new school, she has never been to a real school before, having been homeschooled. She is 16 when she starts high school. As such, she starts off very intelligent and academic, but also naive.naïve. Jo on the other hand is a {{Tomboy}} who changes schools at least three times a year because of her fathers job, and does not get good grades. Regina George, the mean girl and Leader of the Plastics, was ruthless, calculating, manipulative and preference starting rumours and talking behind peoples backs rather than openly bullying them, while Mandi Weatherly, Regina’s sequel counterpart, is overall just spoiled and cruel, lacking manipulation skills and openly bullying Abby Hanover, Janis Ian’s counterpart. While Janis is a quirky, artsy {{Goth}} with a bitter hatred for Regina, Abby is shy and very wealthy. The only thing they really have in common is they both like Art. Gretchen Wierners and Hope Plotkin are very different as well. Gretchen is rich but insecure, secretly despising Regina but too nervous to disobey Regina or confront her unfaithful boyfriend. Hope on the other hand is a Hypochondriac, and that’s all we really get to know about her. Karen Smith is very dumb, yet sweet in the movie while her counterpart Chastity is ditzy, yet also arrogant and mean. Cady’s love interest, Aaron Samuels, is a good guy, though a {{Hypocrite}}, and is overall level-headed. Tyler Adams on the other hand is, though a nice guy, rude to his stepsister Mandi, who seems to genuinely care about him. This might be part of Mandi’s mean streak.
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** Music/{{Nightwish|Band}}: After Tarja Turunen was replaced with Anette Olzon, the latter was quickly disliked for not having the strong vocal range of her predecessor and then Olzon was controversially dismissed and replaced with Floor Jansen, who has suffered a similar response from fans who liked Olzon as frontwoman.

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** Music/{{Nightwish|Band}}: After Tarja Turunen was replaced with Anette Olzon, the latter was quickly disliked for not having the strong vocal range of her predecessor and then Olzon was controversially dismissed and replaced with Floor Jansen, who has suffered a similar response from not only Tarja fans but also fans who liked Olzon ''Olzon'' as frontwoman.frontwoman!



** Music/{{Tristania}} is often considered to not be the same after Vibeke Stene left and the Italian Mary Demurtas took over. A good portion of this is due to the differing vocal styles of the two - Vibeke is a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinto_soprano spinto soprano]], while Mary is a low [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezzo-soprano mezzo-soprano]] (maybe even close to a contralto).

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** Music/{{Tristania}} is was often considered to not be the same after Vibeke Stene left and the Italian Mary Demurtas took over. A good portion of this is due to the differing vocal styles of the two - Vibeke is a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinto_soprano spinto soprano]], while Mary is a low [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezzo-soprano mezzo-soprano]] (maybe even close to a contralto).
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* {{Film/Mean Girls 2}}: Many fans of the original {{Film/Mean Girls}} consider the sequel with different characters unnecessary and inferior to its predecessor. The sequel counterpart of Cady Heron, Jo Mitchell, for example, is very different to Cady. When Cady starts at her new school, she has never been to a real school before, having been homeschooled. She is around 15 or 16 when she starts high school. As such, she starts off very intelligent and academic, but also naive. Jo on the other hand is a {{Tomboy}} who changes schools at least three times a year because of her fathers job, and does not get good grades. Regina George, the mean girl and Leader of the Plastics, was ruthless, calculating, manipulative and preference starting rumours and talking behind peoples backs rather than openly bullying them, while Mandi Weatherly, Regina’s sequel counterpart, is overall just spoiled and cruel, lacking manipulation skills and openly bullying Abby Hanover, Janis Ian’s counterpart. While Janis is a quirky, artsy {{Goth}} with a bitter hatred for Regina, Abby is shy and very wealthy. The only thing they really have in common is they both like Art. Gretchen Wierners and Hope Plotkin are very different as well. Gretchen is rich but insecure, secretly despising Regina but too nervous to disobey Regina or confront her unfaithful boyfriend. Hope on the other hand is a Hypochondriac, and that’s all we really get to know about her. Karen Smith is very dumb, yet sweet in the movie while her counterpart Chastity is ditzy, yet also arrogant and mean. Cady’s love interest, Aaron Samuels, is a good guy, though a {{Hypocrite}}, and is overall level-headed. Tyler Adams on the other hand is, though a nice guy, rude to his stepsister Mandi, who seems to genuinely care about him. This might be part of Mandi’s mean streak.

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* {{Film/Mean Girls 2}}: Many fans of the original {{Film/Mean Girls}} consider the sequel with different characters unnecessary and inferior to its predecessor. The sequel counterpart of Cady Heron, Jo Mitchell, for example, is very different to Cady. When Cady starts at her new school, she has never been to a real school before, having been homeschooled. She is around 15 or 16 when she starts high school. As such, she starts off very intelligent and academic, but also naive. Jo on the other hand is a {{Tomboy}} who changes schools at least three times a year because of her fathers job, and does not get good grades. Regina George, the mean girl and Leader of the Plastics, was ruthless, calculating, manipulative and preference starting rumours and talking behind peoples backs rather than openly bullying them, while Mandi Weatherly, Regina’s sequel counterpart, is overall just spoiled and cruel, lacking manipulation skills and openly bullying Abby Hanover, Janis Ian’s counterpart. While Janis is a quirky, artsy {{Goth}} with a bitter hatred for Regina, Abby is shy and very wealthy. The only thing they really have in common is they both like Art. Gretchen Wierners and Hope Plotkin are very different as well. Gretchen is rich but insecure, secretly despising Regina but too nervous to disobey Regina or confront her unfaithful boyfriend. Hope on the other hand is a Hypochondriac, and that’s all we really get to know about her. Karen Smith is very dumb, yet sweet in the movie while her counterpart Chastity is ditzy, yet also arrogant and mean. Cady’s love interest, Aaron Samuels, is a good guy, though a {{Hypocrite}}, and is overall level-headed. Tyler Adams on the other hand is, though a nice guy, rude to his stepsister Mandi, who seems to genuinely care about him. This might be part of Mandi’s mean streak.
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* {{Film/Mean Girls 2}}: Many fans of the original {{Film/Mean Girls}} consider the sequel with different characters unnecessary and inferior to its predecessor. The sequel counterpart of Cady Heron, Jo Mitchell, for example, is very different to Cady. When Cady starts at her new school, she has never been to a real school before, having been homeschooled. She is around 15 or 16 when she starts high school. As such, she starts off very intelligent and academic, but also naive. Jo on the other hand is a {{Tomboy}} who changes schools at least three times a year because of her fathers job, and does not get good grades. Regina George, the mean girl and Leader of the Plastics, was ruthless, calculating, manipulative and preference starting rumours and talking behind peoples backs rather than openly bullying them, while Mandi Weatherly, Regina’s sequel counterpart, is overall just spoiled and cruel, lacking manipulation skills and openly bullying Abby Hanover, Janis Ian’s counterpart. While Janis is a quirky, artsy {{Goth}} with a bitter hatred for Regina, Abby is shy and very wealthy. The only thing they really have in common is they both like Art. Gretchen Wierners and Hope Plotkin are very different as well. Gretchen is rich but insecure, secretly despising Regina but too nervous to disobey Regina or confront her unfaithful boyfriend. Hope on the other hand is a Hypochondriac, and that’s all we really get to know about her. Karen Smith is very dumb, yet sweet in the movie while her counterpart Chastity is ditzy, yet also arrogant and mean. Cady’s love interest, Aaron Samuels, is a good guy, though a {{Hypocrite}}, and is overall level-headed. Tyler Adams on the other hand is, though a nice guy, rude to his stepsister Mandi, who seems to genuinely care about him. This might be part of Mandi’s mean streak.
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* The ''Tome of Battle'' classes in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' 3.5 are often acknowledged as some of the best-designed in the game, being fun, reasonably powerful, and very capable of doing their jobs. However, the fact that they seemed to be designed after [[TierInducedScrappy certain older classes]] (warblade as fighter, crusader as paladin, swordsage as monk), while also being considerably better than them earned them no small amount of scorn from fans of those classes, who thought ''Tome of Battle'' signaled that Wizards was giving up on them. The mild-to-moderate {{Animesque}} nature of the classes in question didn't help.

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* The ''Tome of Battle'' classes in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' 3.5 are often acknowledged as some of the best-designed in the game, being fun, reasonably powerful, and very capable of doing their jobs. However, the fact that they seemed to be designed after [[TierInducedScrappy certain older classes]] classes (warblade as fighter, crusader as paladin, swordsage as monk), while also being considerably better than them earned them no small amount of scorn from fans of those classes, who thought ''Tome of Battle'' signaled that Wizards was giving up on them. The mild-to-moderate {{Animesque}} nature of the classes in question didn't help.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'': After threatening and iconic villain Slade was seemingly defeated for good at the end of season 2, hammy and incompetent Brother Blood took his place in season 3 as the ArcVillain. Thankfully, Slade was brought back in season 4.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'': ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans2003'': After threatening and iconic villain Slade was seemingly defeated for good at the end of season 2, hammy and incompetent Brother Blood took his place in season 3 as the ArcVillain. Thankfully, Slade was brought back in season 4.
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* When the eighteenth season of ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'', ''Zero'', ditched the old cast (only two reappear right away, and a third shows up during the season), new protagonists Shatter Squad were soon disliked for being nowhere as interesting as the Blood Gulch crew, thanks to having bland and cliched personalities and rushed or non-existent character arcs.

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* When the eighteenth season of ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'', ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlue'', ''Zero'', ditched the old cast (only two reappear right away, and a third shows up during the season), new protagonists Shatter Squad were soon disliked for being nowhere as interesting as the Blood Gulch crew, thanks to having bland and cliched personalities and rushed or non-existent character arcs.
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* The 2007 Chips Ahoy! commercials were beloved for their BlackComedy and their comedic song covers, but unfortunately didn't last very long. In 2021, Nabisco attempted to make a SpiritualSuccessor to the commercials, but these new commercials were absolutely ''detested'' by viewers for relying too much on [[WereStillRelevantDammit pandering to the mainstream audience]].

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* The 2007 Chips Ahoy! commercials were beloved for their BlackComedy and their comedic song covers, but unfortunately didn't last very long. In 2021, Nabisco attempted to make a SpiritualSuccessor to the commercials, but these new commercials were absolutely ''detested'' by viewers for relying too much on [[WereStillRelevantDammit pandering to the mainstream audience]].their obnoxious TotallyRadical tone.
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* In 1989, Hershey's released its ''Christmas Bells'' commercial where the Hershey's Kisses, arranged in a Christmas tree, rang in bell tones to "We Wish You a Merry Christmas". It got a CGI update in 2012 while keeping the audio the same. Then in 2020, a new commercial was introduced where the Kisses start ringing normally until [[MomentKiller a little girl's hand swoops in and grabs one of them]]. The scene then changes to the girl baking cookies with her father [[WereStillRelevantDammit set to a remixed version of the song]], with her putting the Kiss in one of them. Hershey's received immediate backlash, especially from people who noticed that the abducted Kiss was ''the same one that concluded the song''. Within a month, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Hershey's began to air the original commercial again]], though they still aired the new commercial indiscriminately. This didn't stop both commercials from airing the following year, however.

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* In 1989, Hershey's released its ''Christmas Bells'' commercial where the Hershey's Kisses, arranged in a Christmas tree, rang in bell tones to "We Wish You a Merry Christmas". It got a CGI update in 2012 while keeping the audio the same. Then in 2020, a new commercial was introduced where the Kisses start ringing normally until [[MomentKiller a little girl's hand swoops in and grabs one of them]]. The scene then changes to the girl baking cookies with her father [[WereStillRelevantDammit set to a remixed version an almost painfully "hip" remix of the song]], song, with her putting the Kiss in one of them. Hershey's received immediate backlash, especially from people who noticed that the abducted Kiss was ''the same one that concluded the song''. Within a month, [[AuthorsSavingThrow Hershey's began to air the original commercial again]], though they still aired the new commercial indiscriminately. This didn't stop both commercials from airing the following year, however.
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** Creator/AndrewGarfield himself seems to be this to Creator/TobeyMaguire, as many Maguire fans see Maguire as their [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy preferred Peter]] and somewhat resent Andrew for not being him. Doubly ironic considering many comic fans have commented on the fact that Garfield's portrayal is much closer to the original Lee-Ditko comics, and was much closer to John Romita Sr. redesign of Peter, which has been his default look for the majority of comics and in the ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'' comics, as opposed to Ditko's Spider-Man which is the EarlyInstallmentWeirdness of the franchise. Complaints usually involve Andrew's Peter being far less likable than Tobey's, which is mostly because Garfield portrayed the character as a ClassicalAntiHero whereas Maguire is portrayed with a more traditional heroic personality. Andrew's emotional range as an actor has also been called into question as being too flat and too wooden throughout the movies (though it must be said that similar complaints have been leveled against Maguire's performance). Other comic book fans, however, welcomed the film and reboot.

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** Creator/AndrewGarfield himself seems to be this to Creator/TobeyMaguire, as many Maguire fans see Maguire as their [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy preferred Peter]] and somewhat resent Andrew for not being him. Doubly ironic considering many comic fans have commented on the fact that Garfield's portrayal is much closer to the original Lee-Ditko comics, and was much closer to John Romita Sr. redesign of Peter, which has been his default look for the majority of comics and in the ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'' comics, as opposed to Ditko's Spider-Man which is the EarlyInstallmentWeirdness of the franchise. Complaints usually involve Andrew's Peter being far less likable than Tobey's, which is mostly because Garfield portrayed the character as a ClassicalAntiHero whereas Maguire is portrayed with a more traditional heroic personality. Andrew's emotional range as an actor has also been called into question as being too flat and too wooden throughout the movies (though it must be said that similar complaints have been leveled against Maguire's performance). Other comic book fans, however, welcomed the film and reboot. Eventually though, reception toward Garfield’s portrayal softened as the actor was honest about his own misgivings with the films and went on to act in a number of celebrated performances. Consequently, [[spoiler:TASM Peter’s return in ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'' was widely celebrated, and his redemptive moment to save MJ the way he couldn’t save Gwen was hailed as one of the best parts of the movie.]]
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Pointing out the fact that the creators sometimes had no choice but to abandon the old character or also make a replacement may still not calm fans down. See ExiledFromContinuity, TheCharacterDiedWithHim, and McLeaned.

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** This is adding insult to injury, because Joe Lynn Turner was already a Replacement Scrappy in Rainbow - he replaced legend in his own right Music/RonnieJamesDio, and his time with Rainbow is considered the band's DorkAge. (Even Dio dissed the new incarnation of Rainbow, referring to them as [[PretenderDiss "Foreigner Junior"]])

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** This is adding insult to injury, because Joe Lynn Turner was already a Replacement Scrappy in Rainbow - he replaced legend in his own right Music/RonnieJamesDio, and his time with Rainbow is considered the band's DorkAge.AudienceAlienatingEra. (Even Dio dissed the new incarnation of Rainbow, referring to them as [[PretenderDiss "Foreigner Junior"]])



* When Paul Bostaph replaced Dave Lombardo in Music/{{Slayer}} he was almost immediately hated by fans for being an inferior replacement. He is a very good drummer himself, but he just happened to replace the most acclaimed drummer in all thrash metal. The fact that his joining coincided with Slayer entering the 90s DorkAge didn't help.

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* When Paul Bostaph replaced Dave Lombardo in Music/{{Slayer}} he was almost immediately hated by fans for being an inferior replacement. He is a very good drummer himself, but he just happened to replace the most acclaimed drummer in all thrash metal. The fact that his joining coincided with Slayer entering the 90s DorkAge AudienceAlienatingEra didn't help.
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* ''Roleplay/DinoAttackRPG'':
** When his own primary character of Zenna ended up in a coma due to massive blood loss, Atton Rand decided to try PlayingAgainstType, going against his usual idealistic all around good-natured women in favor of a cold-blooded anti-hero, who would also follow as a SpiritualSuccessor to the very popular anti-hero Dust. Unfortunately the resulting character of Trigger acted like a {{Jerkass}} to his fellow cast members, which came as a unexpected shock to players who were familiar with the friendly Zenna, and unlike the more interesting and complex Dust, Trigger's motivations were [[OnlyInItForTheMoney far less complex and interesting]], making him seem shallow in comparison; as a result, he became a Replacement Scrappy on ''two'' fronts. Reception ''started'' to warm up with a series of flashbacks detailing his rivalry with Amanda (and in the process introduced his partner Montoya, who was ironically had a significantly warmer reception) until he went and [[DirtyCoward deserted the team]], which again took chilled his reception. Eventually, the whole deal got so out of hand that Atton Rand eventually [[spoiler:killed him off]] and humiliated him further with a humorous [[spoiler:afterlife]] scene that also poked fun at an earlier DeusExMachina... and ''[[BigLippedAlligatorMoment that]]'' was not as well-received as he'd hoped.
** Stromling Palmer was originally created to fill in the void left open by the Zachary's redemption and Ahua's sudden death. Unfortunately, the idea wasn't too well received by other players, and he was quickly humiliated by [[spoiler:the Darkitect himself]] and subsequently beheaded by Trigger.
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** As a galactic conqueror, Snoke isn't exactly as popular as Emperor Palpatine and fans weren't impressed by how he got [[spoiler: killed in the second installment of the trilogy. It's eventually revealed in ''Rise of the Skywalker'' that Snoke is a literal clone of Palpatine.]]
** Fans of the old ''Legends'' continuity were annoyed at the creation of entire planets which seemed to serve no purpose other than distance the new trilogy from the old continuity. Of particular note, the Hosnian system serve no purpose that couldn't be filled by Coruscant or Chandrila (wether it's made better or worse by the system being [[spoiler:blown up immediately after its introduction depends on who you ask]]), and Ahch To replaces the beloved ''Legends'' planet [[VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic Tython]]. [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Exegol]] is hit especially hard by this, as it seemingly combines elements of no less than ''three'' planets from ''Legends'', without adding anything new that couldn't be done by Dromund Kaas, Korriban (which was already canon) or Byss. The Ahch To complaint was alleviated somewhat by the reveal that Ahch To was considered a possibility for the origin of the Jedi Temple, with Tython being another, and Tython receiving both a short cameo in ''ComicBook/StarWarsDoctorAphra'' and its first ever live-action appearance in ''Series/TheMandalorian''.

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** As a galactic conqueror, Snoke isn't exactly as popular as Emperor Palpatine and fans weren't impressed by how he got [[spoiler: killed in the second installment of the trilogy. It's eventually revealed in ''Rise of the Skywalker'' ''Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker'' that Snoke is a literal clone of Palpatine.]]
** Fans of the old ''Legends'' continuity were annoyed at the creation of entire planets which seemed to serve no purpose other than distance the new trilogy from the old continuity. Of particular note, the Hosnian system serve serves no purpose that couldn't be filled by Coruscant or Chandrila (wether (whether it's made better or worse by the system being [[spoiler:blown up immediately after its introduction depends on who you ask]]), and Ahch To replaces the beloved ''Legends'' planet [[VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic Tython]]. [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Exegol]] is hit especially hard by this, as it seemingly combines elements of no less than ''three'' planets from ''Legends'', without adding anything new that couldn't be done by Dromund Kaas, Korriban (which was already canon) or Byss. The Ahch To complaint was alleviated somewhat by the reveal that Ahch To was considered a possibility for the origin of the Jedi Temple, with Tython being another, and Tython receiving both a short cameo in ''ComicBook/StarWarsDoctorAphra'' and its first ever live-action appearance in ''Series/TheMandalorian''.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'', Fasttrack is highly disliked among the fanbase, due to his powers and coloration seeming ''very'' similar to that of [=XLR8=], who is a fan favorite and a series mainstay since the original show. There had been other "replacement" Omnitrix forms before, but they always had unique traits that let them develop voices of their own; Fasttrack ''didn't'' have that. WordOfGod's claims that he's faster and stronger have provoked a few [[CreatorsPet favoritism]] accusations. It seems most of the show's staff didn't like him that much either, seeing as he was ''deliberately'' left out of the next series, ''Omniverse'', which had made a point to bring almost every form back.
* Speaking of ''Omniverse'', the villains of the show suffered this. The first new BigBad was Malware, an scary and amoral mechamorph who was beloved by fans. When he was defeated, he was replaced with characters like the Incurseans, the Rooters, and Maltruant. None of the new villains were able to generate even remotely the level of interest that Malware had, being seen as pale imitations. One of the biggest reasons for the show's SeasonalRot was that Malware's absence left a directionless hole that couldn't be filled. Worse yet, the show was cancelled just as Malware was set to return in a big way.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'', Fasttrack is highly disliked among the fanbase, due to his powers and coloration seeming ''very'' similar to that of [=XLR8=], who is a fan favorite and a series mainstay since the original show. There had been other "replacement" Omnitrix forms before, but they always had unique traits that let them develop voices of their own; Fasttrack ''didn't'' have that. WordOfGod's claims that he's faster and stronger have provoked a few [[CreatorsPet favoritism]] accusations. It seems most of the show's staff didn't like him that much either, seeing as he was ''deliberately'' left out of the next series, ''Omniverse'', ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'', which had made a point to bring almost every form back.
* Speaking of ''Omniverse'', the villains of the show suffered this. The first new BigBad was Malware, an a scary and amoral mechamorph who was beloved by fans. When he was defeated, he was replaced with characters like the Incurseans, the Rooters, and Maltruant. None of the new villains were able to generate even remotely the level of interest that Malware had, being seen as pale imitations. One of the biggest reasons for the show's SeasonalRot was that Malware's absence left a directionless hole that couldn't be filled. Worse yet, the show was cancelled just as Malware was set to return in a big way.



** Rodimus Prime, formerly Hot Rod, who took over as leader after Optimus died in TheMovie. Rodimus was not only not accepted because he wasn't Optimus, but he was partly responsible for the death of his predecessor (his attempt to help Optimus during his climactic battle with Megatron just gave Megatron a chance to fatally wound him). Worse, he was sometimes insecure over his leadership abilities, when he wasn't also being sharply sarcastic. However, Rodimus Prime also has a share of fans who like him ''better'' than Optimus, for the very same qualities he's hated for. To a lesser degree the rest of the 1986 Transformers cast brought in after the movie suffered from this, as many of the beloved older characters had been killed off [[MerchandiseDriven to sell toys]] or just weren't shown anymore.

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** Rodimus Prime, formerly Hot Rod, who took over as leader after Optimus died in TheMovie. Rodimus was not only not accepted because he wasn't Optimus, but he was partly responsible for the death of his predecessor (his attempt to help Optimus during his climactic battle with Megatron just gave Megatron a chance to fatally wound him). Worse, he was sometimes insecure over his leadership abilities, when he wasn't also being sharply sarcastic. However, Rodimus Prime also has a share of fans who like him ''better'' than Optimus, for the very same qualities he's hated for. To a lesser degree degree, the rest of the 1986 Transformers cast brought in after the movie suffered from this, as many of the beloved older characters had been killed off [[MerchandiseDriven to sell toys]] or just weren't shown anymore.
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* Some fans of Music/CollectiveSoul will tell you that the band has two eras: Ross Childress on lead guitar and post-Ross Childress on lead guitar. Made all the worse by the fact that the circumstances of Childress's departure mean that he is never, ever coming back, and while both the guitarists the band has had since his departure are great musicians, your average fan will tell you that it was Childress's guitar playing that set the group apart and neither man could be anything other than a place-holder.
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* Quite possibly Music/GunsNRoses second drummer, Matt Sorum. Axl Rose described other former members of the band as 'former members', but described Sorum as a 'former employee'. It probably didn't help that the guy he replaced, Steven Adler (whose heroin addiction was so bad he could barely stay awake during recording sessions) happens to be a childhood friend of Music/{{Slash}}.

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* Quite possibly Music/GunsNRoses second drummer, Matt Sorum. Axl Rose described other former members of the band as 'former members', but described Sorum as a 'former employee'. It probably didn't help that the guy he replaced, Steven Adler (whose heroin addiction was so bad he could barely stay awake during recording sessions) happens to be a childhood friend of Music/{{Slash}}.Music/{{Slash|Musician}}.
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[[caption-width-right:350:"He's too friendly and polite to replace our Sasuke."]]
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