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** ''Platform'' ( 站台) is about a small band of performers trying to adjust to the economic and societal changes,

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** ''Platform'' ( 站台) (站台) is about a small band of performers trying to adjust to the economic and societal changes,
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Why 1979, you may ask? Though China did start to open to the world in 1972 after UsefulNotes/RichardNixon visited China, UsefulNotes/MaoZedong had a stranglehold on power until his death in 1976, and supported the most radical politics in China. Immediately after he died, those radical elements were arrested, and Deng Xiaoping made a grab for control of the Party. The economic reforms he implemented in 1978 began to turn China from a sclerotic command economy into an economic powerhouse as foreign investment was allowed in ever-larger areas and ever-greater sections of the banking sector were freed up to invest in things that were actually profitable, as opposed to things the government thought the country 'should' have[[note]] 'should' have to guarantee economic self-sufficiency (which had decreased overall economic efficiency in all sectors, not least because foreign banks were not allow to invest in the country), jobs (which meant an over-emphasis on job-creation and maintenance at the expense of [job-]efficiency), and support for the military (which had taken up an unhealthily large portion of the country's GDP)[[/note]]. Additionally, the United States formally established diplomatic relations with China that year - up to that point, the US had recognized the Guomindang government on Taiwan.

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Why 1979, you may ask? Though China did start to open to the world in 1972 after UsefulNotes/RichardNixon visited China, UsefulNotes/MaoZedong had a stranglehold on power until his death in 1976, and supported the most radical politics in China. Immediately after he died, those radical elements were arrested, and Deng Xiaoping made a grab for control of the Party. The economic reforms he implemented in 1978 began to turn China from a sclerotic command economy into an economic powerhouse as foreign investment was allowed in ever-larger areas and ever-greater sections of the banking sector were freed up to invest in things that were actually profitable, as opposed to things the government thought the country 'should' have[[note]] 'should' have.[[note]]'Should' have to guarantee economic self-sufficiency (which had decreased overall economic efficiency in all sectors, not least because foreign banks were not allow to invest in the country), jobs (which meant an over-emphasis on job-creation and maintenance at the expense of [job-]efficiency), and support for the military (which had taken up an unhealthily large portion of the country's GDP)[[/note]]. GDP).[[/note]] Additionally, the United States formally established diplomatic relations with China that year - -- up to that point, the US had recognized the Guomindang government on Taiwan.
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Incidentally, red is also a traditional color ''of'' UsefulNotes/{{China}}, predating Marxism. For more historical background on Red China, see [[Analysis/RedChina the analysis page.]]

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Incidentally, red is also a traditional color ''of'' UsefulNotes/{{China}}, predating Marxism. For more historical background on Red China, see [[Analysis/RedChina the analysis page.]]page]].
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The main cause of this was UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar - while the Soviets were not (obviously) attacking UN forces, which included the US and the UK, the Chinese most certainly were.

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The main cause of this was UsefulNotes/TheKoreanWar - -- while the Soviets were not (obviously) attacking UN forces, which included the US and the UK, the Chinese most certainly were.
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* ''VideoGame/ColdWinter'' have the hero's sidekick, Kim, who had a past with Red China. As revealed in a flashback circa 1989, the Chinese secret service tries forcing Kim to join their ranks after her brother was arrested for partaking in the 1989 Tiananmen riots; Kim instead kills the recruiter and escapes to the west.
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Also notice that since China has lately acquired a huge potential as a consumer market for Western media, it makes almost no business sense to offend the peevish Chinese censors and/or audience by casting China or a Chinese person as the villain. Though there are exceptions to censorship in recent years.[[note]]For example, Maverick's jacket in ''Top Gun: Maverick'' reverted his censored jacket back into brandishing the flags of both Taiwan and Japan after the Chinese sponsors pulled out, ''Spiderman: No Way Home'' was blackballed in China for not removing the shots of the Statue of Liberty, ''Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness'' was similarly not released in China due to having a newspaper kiosk with the Chinese name of ''The Epoch Times'' (an anti-CCP, pro-Trump publication) being visible.[[/note]]

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Also notice that since China has lately acquired a huge potential as a consumer market for Western media, it makes almost no business sense to offend the peevish Chinese censors and/or audience by casting China or a Chinese person as the villain. Though there are exceptions to censorship in recent years.[[note]]For example, Maverick's jacket in ''Top Gun: Maverick'' reverted his censored jacket back into brandishing the flags of both Taiwan and Japan after the Chinese sponsors pulled out, out when they realized that the movie glorifies the US Armed Forces (specifically the Air Force and Navy), ''Spiderman: No Way Home'' was blackballed in China for not removing the shots of the Statue of Liberty, ''Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness'' was similarly not released in China due to having a newspaper kiosk with the Chinese name of ''The Epoch Times'' (an anti-CCP, pro-Trump publication) being visible.[[/note]]
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Also notice that since China has lately acquired a huge potential as a consumer market for Western media, it makes almost no business sense to offend the peevish Chinese censors and/or audience by casting China or a Chinese person as the villain. Though as of 2019-2022 this seems to be changing.[[note]]For example, Maverick's jacket in ''Top Gun: Maverick'' reverted his censored jacket back into brandishing the flags of both Taiwan and Japan, ''Spiderman: No Way Home'' was blackballed in China for not removing the shots of the Statue of Liberty, ''Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness'' has a newspaper kiosk with the Chinese name of ''The Epoch Times'' being visible, and ''AMAIM: Warrior at the Borderline'' feature the Asian Free Trade Entente (dominated by Communist China) as one of the antagonists[[/note]]

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Also notice that since China has lately acquired a huge potential as a consumer market for Western media, it makes almost no business sense to offend the peevish Chinese censors and/or audience by casting China or a Chinese person as the villain.

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villain. Though as of 2019-2022 this seems to be changing.[[note]]For example, Maverick's jacket in ''Top Gun: Maverick'' reverted his censored jacket back into brandishing the flags of both Taiwan and Japan, ''Spiderman: No Way Home'' was blackballed in China for not removing the shots of the Statue of Liberty, ''Doctor Strange: Multiverse of Madness'' has a newspaper kiosk with the Chinese name of ''The Epoch Times'' being visible, and ''AMAIM: Warrior at the Borderline'' feature the Asian Free Trade Entente (dominated by Communist China) as one of the antagonists[[/note]]

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* ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'': Red China is still there, but in this version Deng's reforms led to increasing tensions between Deng's reformists and Maoist hardliners, which eventually led to a civil war. By 2013, the nation has basically returned to the "Warlord Era" of the early 1920s. All the power players are still nominally Communist, but differ on ''how'' Communist they want to be.

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* ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'': ''TabletopGame/{{Cyberpunk}}'': Red China is still there, but in this version Deng's reforms led to increasing tensions between Deng's reformists and Maoist hardliners, which eventually led to a civil war. By 2013, the nation has basically returned to the "Warlord Era" of the early 1920s. All the power players are still nominally Communist, but differ on ''how'' Communist they want to be.



* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}''. The Red Chinese are THE DirtyCommies in Falloutverse.
** It is unspecified whether China underwent its late-20th and early-21st Century reforms in the ''Fallout'' Universe, but the US propaganda still basically treats them as DirtyCommunists.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}''. The Red Chinese are THE DirtyCommies in Falloutverse.
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Falloutverse. It is unspecified whether China underwent its late-20th and early-21st Century reforms in the ''Fallout'' Universe, but the US propaganda still basically treats them as DirtyCommunists.
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-->-- Lyrics to "'''The East is Red'''", CPC anthem and ''de facto'' national anthem during The Cultural Revolution

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-->-- Lyrics to "'''The East is Red'''", CPC anthem and ''de facto'' national anthem during The Cultural Revolution
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* The Malaysian controversial comic ''Belt and Road Initiative for Win Winism'' by "Superman Hew" is (probably the) entire about this, among other things. Needless to say, Malaysia doesn't want probably to risk off pissing China, so they [[BannedInChina banned the comic book in Malaysia.]]
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* The Malaysian controversial comic ''Belt and Road Initiative for Win Winism'' by "Superman Hew" is entire about this. Needless to say, Malaysia doesn't want probably to risk off pissing China, so they [[BannedInChina banned the comic book in Malaysia.]]

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* The Malaysian controversial comic ''Belt and Road Initiative for Win Winism'' by "Superman Hew" is (probably the) entire about this.this, among other things. Needless to say, Malaysia doesn't want probably to risk off pissing China, so they [[BannedInChina banned the comic book in Malaysia.]]
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* The Malaysian controversial comic ''Belt and Road Initiative for Win Winism'' by "Superman Hew" is entire about this. Needless to say, Malaysia doesn't want probably to risk off pissing China, so they [[BannedInChina banned the comic book in Malaysia.]]
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* ''{{TabletopGame/Cyberpunk}}'': Red China is still there, but in this version Deng's reforms led to increasing tensions between Deng's reformists and Maoist hardliners, which eventually led to a civil war. By 2013, the nation has basically returned to the "Warlord Era" of the early 1920s. All the power players are still nominally Communist, but differ on ''how'' Communist they want to be.
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* ''Pinball/GunsNRosesJerseyJack'': The mode "Shall We Play a Game?" situates the player in a war of propaganda between America and China, helping the former outdo the latter in terms of dispersing their values to each other. The former is visually suggested to be spreading virtues like freedom and justice to China, therefore implying that the latter is instead repressive.
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* VideoGame/CommandAndConquerGenerals features, oddly enough, a combination of the two varieties. Chinese society is clearly of the second type, which makes sense, as the game takes place ([[CanonDiscontinuity unlike all the other Command & Conquer games]]) in our timeline during the 2020s, but their military, with its [[ZergRush tactics]] and units, is based inaccurately on that of the first type, and is considered so hyperbolic that the game was actually BannedInChina.

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* VideoGame/CommandAndConquerGenerals ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerGenerals'' features, oddly enough, a combination of the two varieties. Chinese society is clearly of the second type, which makes sense, as the game takes place ([[CanonDiscontinuity unlike all the other Command & Conquer games]]) in our timeline during the 2020s, but their military, with its [[ZergRush tactics]] and units, is based inaccurately on that of the first type, and is considered so hyperbolic that the game was actually BannedInChina.
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** ''Film/{{Goldfinger}}'' is of the first type.

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** ''Film/{{Goldfinger}}'' is of the first type. The Chicoms are clearly bankrolling Goldfinger's plan to break into Fort Knox, having also provided the nuclear bomb he's planning to detonate.
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Also notice that since China has lately acquired a huge potential as a consumer market for Western media, it makes almost no business sense to offend the peevish Chinese censors and/or audience by casting China as the villain.

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Also notice that since China has lately acquired a huge potential as a consumer market for Western media, it makes almost no business sense to offend the peevish Chinese censors and/or audience by casting China or a Chinese person as the villain.
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** In ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'', China is implied to be the BiggerBad to the main villains... in fact the [[SupervillainLair evil lair]] is located in Red Chinese waters.

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** In ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'', China is implied to be the BiggerBad GreaterScopeVillain to the main villains... in fact the [[SupervillainLair evil lair]] is located in Red Chinese waters.

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* The original founding story of ''ComicBook/IronMan''.

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* The original founding story of ''ComicBook/IronMan''. Modern adaptations tend to update it to Afghanistan or somewhere in the Middle East.
* Marvel Comics' version of Red China doesn't have quite as much of a super-soldier program as Russia or America, but they do have:
** ComicBook/TheMightyThor's enemy Radioactive Man.
** The Missing Link, their own equivalent of ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk
** Mandarin, one of Iron Man's more prominent nemeses. To be clear, he was wiling to ''work'' for the Reds; he didn't like them much, due to having his family's ancestral home seized. He just hated America more.
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* One of the factions you can work for in {{Mercenaries}} and its sequel.

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* One of the factions you can work for in {{Mercenaries}} ''VideoGame/{{Mercenaries}}'' and its sequel.
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* ''Film/{{Goldfinger}}'' is of the first type.

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** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'' is probably the only Film/JamesBond film thus far which uses the Red and Rich version of the trope . To be sure, China exists as a possible enemy, but agent Wai Lin and Bond never really discuss or debate politics, and they do collaborate to uncover the evil plan of the week. Both China and the UK were being manipulated into war by a third party, and in the end the villain was exposed, his own forces destroyed, and everyone just went home.

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** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'' is probably the only Film/JamesBond Bond film thus far which uses the Red and Rich version of the trope .trope. To be sure, China exists as a possible enemy, but agent Wai Lin and Bond never really discuss or debate politics, and they do collaborate to uncover the evil plan of the week. Both China and the UK were being manipulated into war by a third party, and in the end the villain was exposed, his own forces destroyed, and everyone just went home.
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-->--Lyrics to "'''The East is Red'''", CPC anthem and ''de facto'' national anthem during The Cultural Revolution

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** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'' is probably the only JamesBond film thus far which uses the Red and Rich version of the trope . To be sure, China exists as a possible enemy, but agent Wai Lin and Bond never really discuss or debate politics, and they do collaborate to uncover the evil plan of the week. Both China and the UK were being manipulated into war by a third party, and in the end the villain was exposed, his own forces destroyed, and everyone just went home.

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** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'' is probably the only JamesBond Film/JamesBond film thus far which uses the Red and Rich version of the trope . To be sure, China exists as a possible enemy, but agent Wai Lin and Bond never really discuss or debate politics, and they do collaborate to uncover the evil plan of the week. Both China and the UK were being manipulated into war by a third party, and in the end the villain was exposed, his own forces destroyed, and everyone just went home.

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** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'' is probably the only JamesBond film thus far which uses the Red and Rich version of the trope . To be sure, China exists as a possible enemy, but agent Wai Lin and Bond never really discuss or debate politics, and they do collaborate to uncover the evil plan of the week. Both China and the UK were being manipulated into war by a third party, and in the end the villain was exposed, his own forces destroyed, and everyone just went home.



** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'' is probably the only JamesBond film which uses this version of the trope (see the Bond films in the Red and Nasty peiod). To be sure, China exists as a possible enemy, but agent Wai Lin and Bond never really discuss or debate politics, and they do collaborate to uncover the evil plan of the week. Both China and the UK were being manipulated into war by a third party, and in the end the villain was exposed, his own forces destroyed, and everyone just went home.

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Tomorrow Never Dies is set after 1979 and with a Chinese agent who alternates between ambivalent and friendly towards James Bond.


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** Notably averted in ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies.'' That is, China exists as a possible enemy, but Wai Lin and Bond never really discuss or debate politics. Both China and the UK were being manipulated into war by a third party, and in the end the villain was exposed, his own forces destroyed, and everyone just went home.


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** ''Film/TomorrowNeverDies'' is probably the only JamesBond film which uses this version of the trope (see the Bond films in the Red and Nasty peiod). To be sure, China exists as a possible enemy, but agent Wai Lin and Bond never really discuss or debate politics, and they do collaborate to uncover the evil plan of the week. Both China and the UK were being manipulated into war by a third party, and in the end the villain was exposed, his own forces destroyed, and everyone just went home.

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** In ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'', China is implied to be the BiggerBad to the main villains... in fact the [[
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** In ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'', China is implied to be the BiggerBad to the main villains... in fact the [[
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* ''Film/TheLastEmperor'' sets its FramingDevice during this period.

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