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And of course, cartoons. We know all about the AnimationAgeGhetto, and more recently the assumption that AllAdultAnimationIsSouthPark. Cartoons can only be funny, right? The sheer number of story-driven cartoons says otherwise. On the other hand, many companies seem convinced that kids will watch cartoons only if they are funny, and add extraneous humor that sometimes [[CasualDangerDialog clashes with the mood]] just to fulfill their comedy quota. There have been story-driven cartoons for adults, but they haven't done terribly well. Unfortunately, the Animation Age Ghetto lives. Often, animators have to start with an RRatedOpening in order to ''warn'' young audiences and their parents that [[AllAnimationIsDisney what they're watching isn't a Disney animated flick just because it had cartoon people on the cover]].

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And of course, cartoons. We know all about the AnimationAgeGhetto, and more recently the assumption that AllAdultAnimationIsSouthPark.[[DeadBabyComedy All Adult Animation Is South Park]]. Cartoons can only be funny, right? The sheer number of story-driven cartoons says otherwise. On the other hand, many companies seem convinced that kids will watch cartoons only if they are funny, and add extraneous humor that sometimes [[CasualDangerDialog clashes with the mood]] just to fulfill their comedy quota. There have been story-driven cartoons for adults, but they haven't done terribly well. Unfortunately, the Animation Age Ghetto lives. Often, animators have to start with an RRatedOpening in order to ''warn'' young audiences and their parents that [[AllAnimationIsDisney what they're watching isn't a Disney animated flick just because it had cartoon people on the cover]].
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Heaven save paper RoleplayingGames, which a significant chunk of the general public has simply ''never heard of,'' or, at best, has some nebulous awareness of D&D, in the same way they have a nebulous awareness of Andorra [[* Andorra's a small country in Europe, bordered by Spain and France]].

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Heaven save paper RoleplayingGames, which a significant chunk of the general public has simply ''never heard of,'' or, at best, has some nebulous awareness of D&D, in the same way they have a nebulous awareness of Andorra [[* [[hottip:*: Andorra's a small country in Europe, bordered by Spain and France]].
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Heaven save paper RoleplayingGames, which a significant chunk of the general public has simply ''never heard of,'' or, at best, has some nebulous awareness of D&D, in the same way they have a nebulous awareness of Andorra[[* Andorra's a country]].

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Heaven save paper RoleplayingGames, which a significant chunk of the general public has simply ''never heard of,'' or, at best, has some nebulous awareness of D&D, in the same way they have a nebulous awareness of Andorra[[* Andorra [[* Andorra's a country]].
small country in Europe, bordered by Spain and France]].
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Heaven save paper RoleplayingGames, which a significant chunk of the general public has simply ''never heard of,'' or, at best, has some nebulous awareness of D&D, in the same way they have a nebulous awareness of Andorra.

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Heaven save paper RoleplayingGames, which a significant chunk of the general public has simply ''never heard of,'' or, at best, has some nebulous awareness of D&D, in the same way they have a nebulous awareness of Andorra.
Andorra[[* Andorra's a country]].
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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. These are their SmallReferencePools, and the prejudices that result. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. If a significant title stands out from the perceived "ghettoed" group, the NoTrueScotsman is often applied to try and distance a well-liked entry from it.

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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. These are their SmallReferencePools, and the prejudices that result. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. If a significant title stands out from the perceived "ghettoed" group, the NoTrueScotsman is often applied to try and distance a well-liked entry from it. \n Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure.
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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. These are their SmallReferencePools, and the prejudices that result. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. If a significant title stands out from the perceived "ghetto-ed" group, the NoTrueScotsman is often applied to try and distance a well-liked entry from it.

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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. These are their SmallReferencePools, and the prejudices that result. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. If a significant title stands out from the perceived "ghetto-ed" "ghettoed" group, the NoTrueScotsman is often applied to try and distance a well-liked entry from it.
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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. These are their SmallReferencePools, and the prejudices that result. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. NoTrueScotsman is often applied.

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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. These are their SmallReferencePools, and the prejudices that result. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. If a significant title stands out from the perceived "ghetto-ed" group, the NoTrueScotsman is often applied.
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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. These are their SmallReferencePools, and the prejudices that result. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. "NoTrueScotsman" is often applied.

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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. These are their SmallReferencePools, and the prejudices that result. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure. "NoTrueScotsman" NoTrueScotsman is often applied.
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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. These are their SmallReferencePools, and the prejudices that result. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure.
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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written superheroes in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note supervillains with outlandish plots. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the supernatural mystery ''Leave It To Chance'', the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics or even various [[strike:Japanese comics]] ''[[InsistentTerminology manga]]'', such as the cute family comedy ''[[{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]''. And certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed: ''{{Watchmen}}'' and ''[[{{TheDarkKnightReturns}}The Dark Knight Returns]]'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Superman and Spider-Man?" (At least in America). Some comics (usually ones dubbed "graphic novels" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''{{Fun Home}}'' or the aforementioned ''{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that.

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Likewise, comic books are not all about poorly-written superheroes in garish spandex costumes fighting one-note supervillains with outlandish plots. There are a great many comics telling other kinds of stories, such as the supernatural mystery ''Leave It To Chance'', the numerous indie SliceOfLife comics or even various [[strike:Japanese comics]] ''[[InsistentTerminology manga]]'', such as the cute family comedy ''[[{{Yotsubato}} Yotsuba&!]]''. And certainly the Super Hero genre itself is much better written than what is stereotypically attributed: ''{{Watchmen}}'' and ''[[{{TheDarkKnightReturns}}The Dark Knight Returns]]'' should be proof enough of that. Good luck explaining that to the average person on the street. If you say you like comic books, they'll respond with something like, "So you like Superman and Spider-Man?" (At least in America).Spider-Man?". Some comics (usually ones dubbed "graphic novels" to eliminate this very problem), like the autobiographical ''{{Fun Home}}'' or the aforementioned ''{{Watchmen}}'', have won awards for their artistry and originality. But the general public doesn't know about that.




Same goes for anime. Never mind the presence of the heartwarming, contemplative ''YokohamaKaidashiKikou'', Chiaki Konaka's [[SerialExperimentsLain highly]] [[{{Texhnolyze}} intellectual]] [[GhostHound works]], or even the fist-pumping, action-packed ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' saga or ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' and its action-packed shout out to the resilience of the human spirit against adversity. Don't even mention ''NeonGenesisEvangelion''. On the public eye, anime is either associated with ''SailorMoon'', ''[[{{Dragonball}} Dragonball Z]]'', ''[[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Pokemon]]'', ''{{Naruto}}'' and ''[=~Yu-Gi-Oh!~=]'' and thus with the AnimationAgeGhetto, or even worse: [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles with highly sordid, lecherous forms of]] {{hentai}}. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''SpeedRacer,'' or blatant {{Engrish}}.

(Heaven save paper RoleplayingGames, which a significant chunk of the general public has simply ''never heard of,'' or, at best, has some nebulous awareness of D&D, in the same way they have a nebulous awareness of Andorra.)

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\nSame goes This is especially true for anime. Never mind the presence of the heartwarming, contemplative ''YokohamaKaidashiKikou'', Chiaki Konaka's [[SerialExperimentsLain highly]] [[{{Texhnolyze}} intellectual]] [[GhostHound works]], or even the fist-pumping, action-packed ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' saga or ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' and its action-packed shout out to the resilience of the human spirit against adversity. Don't even mention ''NeonGenesisEvangelion''. On the public eye, anime is either associated with ''SailorMoon'', ''[[{{Dragonball}} Dragonball Z]]'', ''[[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Pokemon]]'', ''{{Naruto}}'' and ''[=~Yu-Gi-Oh!~=]'' and thus with the AnimationAgeGhetto, or even worse: [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles with highly sordid, lecherous forms of]] {{hentai}}. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''SpeedRacer,'' or blatant {{Engrish}}.

(Heaven Heaven save paper RoleplayingGames, which a significant chunk of the general public has simply ''never heard of,'' or, at best, has some nebulous awareness of D&D, in the same way they have a nebulous awareness of Andorra.)
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All examples of this are right at [[TroperTales/PublicMediumIgnorance Troper Tales]].

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* AllAnimationIsDisney
* AllAnimeIsNaughtyTenticles
* AnimationAgeGhetto
* NewMediaAreEvil
* PacManFever
* SciFiGhetto
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All examples of this are right at in those sub pages, or in [[TroperTales/PublicMediumIgnorance Troper Tales]].Tales]].
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And of course, cartoons. We know all about the AnimationAgeGhetto, and more recently the assumption that AllAdultAnimationIsSouthPark. Cartoons can only be funny, right? The sheer number of story-driven cartoons says otherwise. On the other hand, many companies seem convinced that kids will watch cartoons only if they are funny, and add extraneous humor that sometimes [[CasualDangerDialog clashes with the mood]] just to fulfill their comedy quota. There have been story-driven cartoons for adults, but they haven't done terribly well. Unfortunately, the Animation Age Ghetto lives. Often, animators have to start with an RRatedOpening in order to ''warn'' young audiences and their parents that what they're watching isn't a Disney animated flick just because it had cartoon people on the cover.

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And of course, cartoons. We know all about the AnimationAgeGhetto, and more recently the assumption that AllAdultAnimationIsSouthPark. Cartoons can only be funny, right? The sheer number of story-driven cartoons says otherwise. On the other hand, many companies seem convinced that kids will watch cartoons only if they are funny, and add extraneous humor that sometimes [[CasualDangerDialog clashes with the mood]] just to fulfill their comedy quota. There have been story-driven cartoons for adults, but they haven't done terribly well. Unfortunately, the Animation Age Ghetto lives. Often, animators have to start with an RRatedOpening in order to ''warn'' young audiences and their parents that [[AllAnimationIsDisney what they're watching isn't a Disney animated flick just because it had cartoon people on the cover.
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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. These are their SmallReferencePools, and the prejudices that result. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices.

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The public at large has these prejudices and preconceptions. These are their SmallReferencePools, and the prejudices that result. Exposure to a GatewaySeries can certainly be ''very'' helpful to break these prejudices.
prejudices. Related to PopCulturalOsmosisFailure.
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Same goes for anime. Never mind the presence of the heartwarming, contemplative ''YokohamaKaidashiKikou'', Chiaki Konaka's [[SerialExperimentsLain highly]] [[{{Texhnolyze}} intellectual]] [[GhostHound works]], or even the fist-pumping, action-packed ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' saga or ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' and its action-packed shout out to the resilience of the human spirit against adversity. Don't even mention ''NeonGenesisEvangelion''. On the public eye, anime is either associated with ''SailorMoon'', ''[[{{Dragonball}} Dragonball Z]]'', ''[[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Pokemon]]'', ''{{Naruto}}'' and ''YuGiOh'' and thus with the AnimationAgeGhetto, or even worse: [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles with highly sordid, lecherous forms of]] {{hentai}}. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''SpeedRacer,'' or blatant {{Engrish}}.

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Same goes for anime. Never mind the presence of the heartwarming, contemplative ''YokohamaKaidashiKikou'', Chiaki Konaka's [[SerialExperimentsLain highly]] [[{{Texhnolyze}} intellectual]] [[GhostHound works]], or even the fist-pumping, action-packed ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' saga or ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' and its action-packed shout out to the resilience of the human spirit against adversity. Don't even mention ''NeonGenesisEvangelion''. On the public eye, anime is either associated with ''SailorMoon'', ''[[{{Dragonball}} Dragonball Z]]'', ''[[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Pokemon]]'', ''{{Naruto}}'' and ''YuGiOh'' ''[=~Yu-Gi-Oh!~=]'' and thus with the AnimationAgeGhetto, or even worse: [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles with highly sordid, lecherous forms of]] {{hentai}}. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''SpeedRacer,'' or blatant {{Engrish}}.
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->''"There's not a lot of people who know that."''

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Same goes for anime. Never mind the presence of the heartwarming, contemplative ''YokohamaKaidashiKikou'', Chiaki Konaka's [[SerialExperimentsLain highly]] [[{{Texhnolyze}} intellectual]] [[GhostHound works]], or even the fist-pumping, action-packed ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' saga or ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' and its action-packed shout out to the resilience of the human spirit against adversity. Don't even mention ''NeonGenesisEvangelion''. On the public eye, anime is either associated with ''SailorMoon'', ''[[{{Dragonball}} Dragonball Z]]'', ''[[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Pokémon]]'', ''{{Naruto}}'' and ''YuGiOh'' and thus with the AnimationAgeGhetto, or even worse: [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles with highly sordid, lecherous forms of]] {{hentai}}. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''SpeedRacer,'' or blatant {{Engrish}}.

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Same goes for anime. Never mind the presence of the heartwarming, contemplative ''YokohamaKaidashiKikou'', Chiaki Konaka's [[SerialExperimentsLain highly]] [[{{Texhnolyze}} intellectual]] [[GhostHound works]], or even the fist-pumping, action-packed ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' saga or ''TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' and its action-packed shout out to the resilience of the human spirit against adversity. Don't even mention ''NeonGenesisEvangelion''. On the public eye, anime is either associated with ''SailorMoon'', ''[[{{Dragonball}} Dragonball Z]]'', ''[[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Pokémon]]'', Pokemon]]'', ''{{Naruto}}'' and ''YuGiOh'' and thus with the AnimationAgeGhetto, or even worse: [[AllAnimeIsNaughtyTentacles with highly sordid, lecherous forms of]] {{hentai}}. And the dialogue is either poor dubbing along the lines of ''SpeedRacer,'' or blatant {{Engrish}}.
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Science fiction is a genre, not a medium.


Then there is science fiction. The Science fiction label is so poisonous to a writer's career that authors and publishers will often do anything to keep themselves out of the ScifiGhetto of the book store. To many, science fiction is ''StarTrek'', ''StarWars'' [[BattlestarGalactica and]] [[BabylonFive nothing]] [[{{Firefly}} else]]. Marketeers have to constantly remind people, "it's not just SciFi, it has character development, allegory, and universal themes too." As if Science Fiction weren't normally allowed to have those things. (Heck, as if ''Trek'' and ''StarWars'' don't have those things!)

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