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* Inverted in ''DoctorWho'' with [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS1E10TheDoctorDances "The Doctor Dances"]], where Captain Jack actually asks for his odds of survival (and then, of course, defies them anyway).

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* Inverted in ''DoctorWho'' ''Series/DoctorWho'' with [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS1E10TheDoctorDances "The Doctor Dances"]], where Captain Jack actually asks for his odds of survival (and then, of course, defies them anyway).
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*** But their chances of hitting something soft on the fall were ''exactly'' a million to one chance...

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*** But then the dragon counter-attacks, knocking them off the roof, and their chances of hitting something soft on the fall were ''exactly'' a million to one chance...

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* ''IRobot'' has the premise of WillSmith as a robot-hating cop, due to a traffic accident in which a robot chose to save him instead of a small girl, simply because his chances of survival were better.[[hottip:*:The robot was forced to do so based on The First Law of Robotics ("A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm") -- Will Smith's character had the highest probability of survival, and logically the better choice to save first.]] In a flashback, Smith's character can be seen begging the NS-4 to save the girl instead of him.

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* ''IRobot'' ''Film/IRobot'' has the premise of WillSmith as a robot-hating cop, due to a traffic accident in which a robot chose to save him instead of a small girl, simply because his chances of survival were better.[[hottip:*:The robot was forced to do so based on The First Law of Robotics ("A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm") -- Will Smith's character had the highest probability of survival, and logically the better choice to save first.]] In a flashback, Smith's character can be seen begging the NS-4 to save the girl instead of him.



* In the {{Discworld}} book ''Guards! Guards!'', the [[GenreSavvy characters note that saying "It's a million to one chance but it just might work" practically guarantees success]].

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* In the {{Discworld}} book ''Guards! Guards!'', ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', the [[GenreSavvy characters note that saying "It's a million to one chance but it just might work" practically guarantees success]].



** In ''Equal Rites'' Esk tries a feat of magic which, if she'd actually studied magic, she'd know is impossible. As she hasn't and doesn't, she succeeds.

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** In ''Equal Rites'' ''Discworld/EqualRites'' Esk tries a feat of magic which, if she'd actually studied magic, she'd know is impossible. As she hasn't and doesn't, she succeeds.



* ''[=~The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy~=]'' parodies this with the Heart of Gold that's essentially powered by extremely slim odds of something happening.

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* ''[=~The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy~=]'' ''TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'' parodies this with the Heart of Gold that's essentially powered by extremely slim odds of something happening.



* In RatchetAndClank: [[RatchetAndClankUpYourArsenal Up Your Arsenal:]]

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* In RatchetAndClank: ''RatchetAndClank: [[RatchetAndClankUpYourArsenal Up Your Arsenal:]]Arsenal]]'':



-->'''Palmer''':"Willie! What are the odds [Titan] Maximum could make it through that beam without all our genitles fusing into glass?"

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-->'''Palmer''':"Willie! What are the odds [Titan] Maximum could make it through that beam without all our genitles genitals fusing into glass?"



** That's not so much [[NeverTellMeTheOdds Never tell me the odds]] as it is [[TheDeterminator The Determinator]].

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** That's not so much [[NeverTellMeTheOdds Never tell me Tell Me the odds]] Odds as it is [[TheDeterminator The Determinator]].TheDeterminator.



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* In {{Fanfic/Derelict}}, during the mission ''Hail Mary,'' Lieutenant Mackie dismisses the odds and tells everyone to just get the job done. Considering the consequence for not getting the job done is [[spoiler: TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]]]], this is a rather sensible reaction.

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* In {{Fanfic/Derelict}}, during the mission ''Hail Mary,'' Lieutenant Mackie dismisses the odds and tells everyone to just get the job done. Considering the consequence for not getting the job done is [[spoiler: TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]]]], TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]], this is a rather sensible reaction.

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* This exchange from TitanMaximum:
-->'''Palmer''':"Willie! What are the odds [Titan] Maximum could make it through that beam without all our genitles fusing into glass?"
-->'''Willie''':"Um... zero percent."
-->'''Palmer''':"Zero zero? Or 'I'm a wah wah sissy baby and I want my blankie and my baa-baa' zero? Which one, I'm just curious."
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-->'''Willie''':"Point zero zero three percent."
-->'''Palmer''':"Sweet!"
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** Also in ''CodeGeass'' in episode 2 Cecile says to Suzaku that "It's possible, but the chances are close to zero." It isn't directly staded, but she propably refers to Lancelot activation. [[spoiler:Of course the activation is flawless.]]

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** Also in ''CodeGeass'' in episode 2 Cecile says to Suzaku that "It's possible, but the chances are close to zero." It isn't directly staded, stated, but she propably probably refers to Lancelot activation. [[spoiler:Of course the activation is flawless.]]



* Lampshaded in ''StarTrekVoyager'', Seven of Nine and Tuvok are disscussing the captain's latest plan, Tuvok points out it isn't the first time the captain has beaten the odds. To which Seven replies "She does seem to suceed more than random chance would allow. I'll add that to my calculations."

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* Lampshaded in ''StarTrekVoyager'', Seven of Nine and Tuvok are disscussing discussing the captain's latest plan, Tuvok points out it isn't the first time the captain has beaten the odds. To which Seven replies "She does seem to suceed succeed more than random chance would allow. I'll add that to my calculations."



* {{Lampshaded}} in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20020731.html this]] ''SchlockMercenary'' strip. True enough, they escape afterwards, but they find an alternate -- and more statistically sound -- method to do so.

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* {{Lampshaded}} in [[http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20020731.html this]] ''SchlockMercenary'' strip. True enough, they escape afterwards, afterward, but they find an alternate -- and more statistically sound -- method to do so.
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* One smart astronaut in the SamuraiJack episode "Jack in Space" kept giving impossibly high odds throughout the entire episode. Jack beat his odds every time.
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Noted that sometimes Spock gets the odds right.

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** Averted in "Errand of Mercy". Spock calculates very poor odds of attacking the Klingon headquarters. They attack anyway, and fail and are surrounded--though they do make it as far as the commander's office.

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* In RatchetAndClank: [[RatchetAndClankUpYourArsenal Up Your Arsenal:]]
-->'''Big Al''': I estimate our odds at approximately 1 in 63 Million..give or take.
-->'''Ratchet''': Hey, that's uhh..well you know, not so bad.

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* ''IRobot'' has the premise of WillSmith as a robot-hating cop, due to a traffic accident in which a robot chose to save him instead of a small girl, simply because his chances of survivial were better.
--> "That girl was somebody's baby. 11% was more than enough. A human being would've known that."
** Interestingly subverted later on, when our heroes have to scale a skyscraper by way of the stairs:
--> "2880 steps, detective."\\
"...do me a favor, keep that kind of shit to yourself."

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* ''IRobot'' has the premise of WillSmith as a robot-hating cop, due to a traffic accident in which a robot chose to save him instead of a small girl, simply because his chances of survivial survival were better.
better.[[hottip:*:The robot was forced to do so based on The First Law of Robotics ("A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm") -- Will Smith's character had the highest probability of survival, and logically the better choice to save first.]] In a flashback, Smith's character can be seen begging the NS-4 to save the girl instead of him.
--> "That '''Spooner:''' That girl was somebody's baby. 11% was more than enough. A human being would've known that."
** Interestingly subverted later on, when our heroes have to scale a skyscraper by way of the stairs:
--> "2880 steps, detective."\\
"...do me a favor, keep that kind of shit to yourself."
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->'''C-3PO:''' Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating [[TheAsteroidThicket an asteroid field]] is approximately three thousand, seven hundred twenty to one.\\

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->'''C-3PO:''' Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating [[TheAsteroidThicket an asteroid field]] is approximately [[LudicrousPrecision three thousand, seven hundred twenty twenty]] to one.\\
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* ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'': Misato ignores Ritsuko's estimations of the probability of success being 0.0000001% (one in a billion). Of course, once you know more about the EVA-01, the odds may have been ''way'' higher in the first place...

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* ''NeonGenesisEvangelion'': Misato ignores Ritsuko's estimations of the probability of success catching the tenth angel being 0.0000001% (one in a billion). Of course, once you know more about the EVA-01, the odds may have been ''way'' higher in the first place...
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* ''ElGoonishShive'' references the ''StarWars'' example [[http://egscomics.com/?date=2011-02-04 here.]]

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* Erwin Rommel, in an interesting mix between this and XanatosSpeedChess. You do ''not'' tell Erwin Rommel that the odds are against him. He only stopped once there ''were'' no more odds to take, that being once the other side surrendered, or his tanks ran out of gas. No, ''really''.

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* Erwin Rommel, in an interesting mix between this and XanatosSpeedChess. You do ''not'' tell Erwin Rommel that the odds are against him. He only stopped once there ''were'' no more odds to take, that being once the other side surrendered, or his tanks ran out of gas. No, ''really''.''really''
* Sun Tzu said the strength of an army is not measured in its numbers but in its unity. This has been borne out time and time again in history.
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** The EU also defines this as a universal Corellian trait. Any Corellian character will most likely not care about the odds of success.

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** The EU also defines this as a universal Corellian trait. Any Corellian character will most likely not care about the odds of success.success, or having been informed will take the odds as a challenge to be beaten.
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* ''ThePhantomTollbooth'': [[spoiler:Milo's quest was ''literally impossible'', but he did it anyway, because nobody told him it was impossible until after he was done.]]
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* In ''[[TheWheelOfTime Towers of Midnight]]'' Birgette tells Mat that the odds of getting back from the Tower of Ghenji are one in a thousand. Mat responds by taking out ten coins and predicting that when he throws them every single one will land heads up (1/1024 chance if you were wondering). They do, and Mat remarks that "for me, one in a thousand is good odds." Of course, being ta'veren means that when Mat is around one in a thousand actually IS good odds.
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** The EU also defines this as a universal Corellian trait. Any Corellian character will most likely not care about the odds of success.
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** Actually, the name is Auxverride, but [[ItsPronouncedTropay it's pronounced]] the same.
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* In {{Fanfic/Derelict}}, during the mission ''Hail Mary,'' Lieutenant Mackie dismisses the odds and tells everyone to just get the job done. Considering the consequence for not getting the job done is [[spoiler: TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt]]]], this is a rather sensible reaction.
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--->'''Kirk:''' I take it the odds are against us in a situation this grim.

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--->'''Kirk:''' I take it the odds are against us in a and the situation this is grim.

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->'''[[UniversalAdaptorCast C-3PO/Quagmire:]]''' Sir, the odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field are 2-1! \\
'''Han/Peter:''' Never tell me the o- [[SatireParodyPastiche oh, well that's not bad!]] Never mind, let's keep going.
->-- ''[[FamilyGuy Something, Something, Something, Dark Side]]''

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->'''[[UniversalAdaptorCast C-3PO/Quagmire:]]''' Sir, the odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field are 2-1! \\
'''Han/Peter:''' Never tell me the o- [[SatireParodyPastiche oh, well that's not bad!]] Never mind, let's keep going.
->-- ''[[FamilyGuy Something, Something, Something, Dark Side]]''
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->-- ''[[FamilyGuy Something, Something, Something, Dark Side]]

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->-- ''[[FamilyGuy Something, Something, Something, Dark Side]]
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->'''[[UniversalAdaptorCast C-3PO/Quagmire:]]''' Sir, the odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field are 2-1! \\
'''Han/Peter:''' Never tell me the o- [[SatireParodyPastiche oh, well that's not bad!]] Never mind, let's keep going.
->-- ''[[FamilyGuy Something, Something, Something, Dark Side]]

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\n\n* In ''SpaceQuest VI'', the shuttle's automatic co-pilot, [[PunnyName Manuel Override]], tells Roger he's "97.2 percent certain" he can get the shuttle to Delta Burksulon V after damage caused by a NegativeSpaceWedgie is repaired. Roger questions the odds:
-->'''Roger''': Why only 97.2 percent?\\
'''Manuel''': I judged 97.2 to sound more hip to our audience than would 100. You would have to mention it.\\
'''Roger''': Sorry.\\
'''Manuel''': Don't apologize to me. It's the players you ruined it for.

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* [[http://spacetrawler.com/2010/04/19/spacetrawler-33/ This page]] of ''{{Spacetrawler}}''.
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* Inverted in ''DoctorWho'' with [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS1E10TheDoctorDances "The Doctor Dances"]], where Captain Jack actually asks for his odds of survival (and then, of course, defies them anyway).

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*** He seems to only miss because they were aiming for the Dragon's Jewels, of which it had none

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*** He seems to only miss because they were aiming for the Dragon's Jewels, of which it had nonenone.
*** Rather, he was aiming for the [[AttackItsWeakPoint Vulnerable Spot]], which all dragons [[OurDragonsAreDifferent (in some traditions)]] have, but missed because he got the balance of probability ''slightly'' off.
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** Also in ''CodeGeass'' in episode 2 Cecile says to Suzaku that "It's possible, but the chances are close to zero." It isn't directly staded, but she propably refers to Lancelot activation. [[spoiler:Of course the activation is flawless.]]

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