History Main / NaziGrandpa

* There is a whole genre of {{Russian|Humor}}/Soviet jokes where the premise is the following: a boy accidentally reveals that his grandpa was a Nazi collaborator,[[note]]Well, [[DontExplainTheJoke more specifically]], the boy discovers ''evidence'' of his grandpa being a Nazi collaborator, and due to [[ChildrenAreInnocent childish naivete]], fails to put two and two together[[/note]] and HilarityEnsues. For example:

* There is a whole genre of {{Russian|Humor}}/Soviet jokes where the premise is the following: a boy accidentally discovers that his grandpa was a Nazi collaborator,[[note]]Well, [[DontExplainTheJoke more specifically]], the boy discovers ''evidence'' of his grandpa being a Nazi collaborator, and due to [[ChildrenAreInnocent childish naivete]], fails to put two and two together[[/note]] and HilarityEnsues. For example:

** His SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute, Bert Schnick in the sequel, ''Film/ShockTreatmant''. He slips into GratuitousGerman and says that Brad and Janet should be sent to the Danube at dawn. He was originally meant to be a returned Doctor Scott in early scripts but was rewritten into a new character when they couldn't get the actor to come back.

* ''Series/TheOuterLimits1995'': One of the single-vilest villains of the anthology was the old Nazi known as Karl Rademacher from season 5's time-travel episode "Tribunal". Once a sadistic commander of a concentration camp, he murdered hundreds of people during the war before disappearing and living out the rest of his days in the United States as "Robert Greene". The protagonist, the son of a Holocaust survivor, tries to bring Rademacher to justice but eventually resolves to [[spoiler:have Rademacher killed by his own younger self.]]

* ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "Paper Clip" features an ex-Nazi scientist named Victor Klemper, who was involved in wartime experiments on concentration camp inmates and later came to the US, where he helped the Syndicate's experiments with alien-human hybrids. When Mulder and Scully meet him, he's a gentle old man working in a greenhouse, but he expresses little remorse for his past actions.

* A Website/CollegeHumor skit has the site's [[TheDitz resident idiot]], Owen, who is completely ignorant about World War II, present his grandpa's old box of "''VideoGame/{{Wolfenstein}}'' collectibles" to his [[[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33Zp3BXwDB8 colleagues]].

For obvious reasons, this evolved into a StockCharacter in GermanMedia; in serious works, but often also [[GermanHumor played for laughs]], where the joke is for example that he seems to be oblivious to the fact that his attitude isn't acceptable at all in mainstream society anymore, or that he's been decayed by age into a HarmlessVillain. See also RacistGrandma.

* A French boy was upstairs playing on his computer when his granddad came into the room and sat down on the bed. "What are you doing?" asked the granddad. "You're 18 years old and wasting your life! When I was 18 I went to Paris, I went to the Moulin Rouge, drank all night, had my way with the dancers, pissed on the barman, and left without paying! Now that is how to have a good time!" A week later, the grandfather comes to visit again. He finds the boy still in his room, but with a broken arm in plaster, 2 black eyes, and missing all his front teeth. "What happened?", he asked. "Oh granddad!", replied the boy. "I did what you did! I went to Paris, went to the Moulin Rouge, drank all night, had my way with the dancers, pissed all over the barman, and he beat the crap out of me!" "Oh dear!", replied the granddad. "Who did you go with?" "Just some friends, why? Who did you go with?" "Oh!" replied the granddad. "The Third Panzer Division."

* ''Series/NCIS'' has an unusually sympathetic example. Agent Gibbs's father Jackson was a fighter pilot in WWII, at one point his plane was damaged and his compass malfunctioned so he was flying the wrong direction, another fighter pilot showed him the right way back to base letting him get to safety before he crashed, now the pilot is on his deathbed and Jackson asks his son to help find him before he dies, Gibbs tries but begins to think his father might be going senile because there wasn't any airman with his friends name serving in his unit, turns out Jackson was telling the truth, [[ExactWords but he never mentioned the guy who saved him was from his unit, or from his side for that matter.]]

* Tiegel's grandpa in ''ComicBook/{{Hitman}}'' is fairly senile and makes no secret of his past and politics. Despite the fact that his daughter-in-law and granddaughter are black.

* Dr. Mortner from the Film/JamesBond movie ''Film/AViewToAKill''. It's a bit more complicated as Doctor Mortner was experimenting with what he considered inferior bloodlines to make them super-soldiers. In the script, Zorin's AmazonBrigade is composed of his other experiments. This includes Zorin's lover and henchwoman [[AmazonianBeauty May Day]], who's black.

* In one ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' arc, the crew gets hired by a Spanish salvage company to loot an old Nazi submarine in international waters before any of the nearby nations can lay a solid claim to it. The owner of the salvage company turns out to be an old SS officer, who wanted to use the crew for a {{plan}} as a SecretTestOfCharacter for some of his subordinates. [[BaldBlackLeaderGuy Dutch]] is slightly less than pleased to discover this.

However, as of UsefulNotes/TheNewTwenties, this trope is [[DiscreditedTrope literally dying off]], as the remaining Nazis would be nonagenarians at their youngest, making it more difficult to play it straight outside of {{Period Piece}}s.

* Subverted in ''Comicbook/{{Preacher}}'': The Annville chapter features a cheerful old man who openly tells Jesse (and anyone else within earshot) he used to be a Nazi spy -- due to his brother's death he'd turned somewhat cynical about the whole Reich thing and asked to become an undercover agent in the US, upon which he promptly deserted with his civilian cover and set up a new life in America. Jesse just finds the whole story amusing, [[spoiler:until a later run-in with someone who's an obsessive fan of the Nazis coincidentally lets him discover the whole thing was a lie. Turns out the old man was actually a former member of the [[UsefulNotes/{{Holocaust}} Einsatzgruppen]] and escaped to the US after the war to avoid retribution. He claims to be repentant of his former actions, but Jesse doesn't believe him and [[LeaveBehindAPistol offers him the choice between exposure or a rope]].]]

->''"I'll never forgive the Nazis for what they did to my grandfather in Dachau: [[BaitAndSWitch twelve years]] he was manning that machine-gun tower, and not promoted once!"''

* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33Zp3BXwDB8 A CollegeHumor skit]] has a guy, completely ignorant about World War II, present his grandpa's old box of "Wolfenstein collectibles" to his colleagues.

->''"I'll never forgive the Nazis for what they did to my grandfather in Dachau: twelve years he was manning that machine-gun tower, and not promoted once!"''

For obvious reasons, evolved into a StockCharacter in GermanMedia, in serious works, but often also [[GermanHumor played for laughs]], where the joke is for example that he seems to be oblivious to the fact that his attitude isn't acceptable at all in mainstream society anymore, or that he's been decayed by age into a HarmlessVillain. See also RacistGrandma.

* "German Guy," an episode of ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' dealt with this subject, featuring a kindly old German man named Franz Gutentag who befriends Chris before pedophile neighbor Herbert recognizes Franz as a Nazi who put him in a concentration camp for [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday not being gay]]. Herbert and Franz face off in a SlowMotion fight of GreyAndGrayMorality (is the audience supposed to root for the pedophile or the Nazi)?

* Implied with Dr Scott in ''Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow'' when Frank calls him Von Scott, he now works for the American government and is an expy of ''Film/DoctorStrangelove''.

* ''Film/MusicBox'' is about a female lawyer successfully defending her own father against charges that he was a war criminal and fascist during World War II. She simply cannot believe that the kindly, friendly man she grew up loving could be a monster who systematically murdered Jews and Roma. At the end of the film, she finds previously unknown, but indisputable, proof that her father actually ''was'' a war criminal and fascist... [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone and she just helped him escape prosecution.]] She ends up sending the incriminating photos to the government prosecutor who she just defeated, who has them published in the newspaper. Scriptwriter Creator/JoeEszterhas loosely based this story on his own life, and on the shock he went through when he discovered that his own father had been an enthusiastic Nazi during World War II.

* Implied with Dr Scott in ''Film/TheRockyHorrorShow'' when Frank calls him Von Scott, he now works for the American government and is an expy of ''Film/DoctorStrangelove''.

* Dr. Mortner from the Film/JamesBond movie ''Film/AViewToAKill''. Ironically, Max Zorin, the (now-grown-up) Aryan test-tube baby he raised, is no racist (but still very, very evil)--he's very much in lust with May Day, an amazonian black woman and his [[TheDragon Dragon]].
** It's a bit more complicated as Doctor Mortner was experimenting with what he considered inferior bloodlines to make them super-soldiers. In the script, Zorin's AmazonBrigade is composed of his other experiments.

* Dr. Mortner from the Film/JamesBond movie ''Film/AViewToAKill''. Ironically, Max Zorin, the (now-grown-up) Aryan test-tube baby he raised, is no racist (but still very, very evil).

* Arthur Denker again in the film adaptation of ''Film/AptPupil''. Creator/IanMcKellen can play a pretty terrifying ex-Nazi in hiding. Admittedly he's trying to forget his past crimes, but the scene where he's forced to play dress-up for the bratty kid blackmailing him shows that the whole "blood and honor" devotion is still bubbling beneath the surface. Having to recount his past murders inspires Denker to start killing homeless men.

* In the Israeli film ''Film/WalkOnWater'', the UsefulNotes/{{Mossad}} agent Eyal must find Alfred Himmelman, an aging Nazi war criminal, and get him "before God does". In order to track down the old man, Eyal poses as a tour guide and befriends the Nazi's adult grandchildren, Axel and Pia.