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* ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. In fact, this is the point of all 3 Dragonball shows (though less so in the beginning of ''Franchise/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallGT'').

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* ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. In fact, this is the point of all 3 Dragonball shows (though less so in the beginning of ''Franchise/DragonBall'' ''Manga/DragonBall'' and ''Anime/DragonBallGT'').



* Displaying formidable multitasking skills, the eponymous ''Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' is revealed in the series' ancillary manga to be able to train in the magical equivalent of VR constantly while leading her normal civilian life, apparently to explain her jump from neophyte magical girl to hardened battlemage in the short interval between the show's first two seasons. After the second season, she trains so hard she becomes known as "[[TheAce Ace of Aces]]" and is promoted to Combat Drill Instructor [[ImprobableAge in her early teens.]] In the third season, another character trains herself nearly to the point of exhaustion in an effort to prove herself ([[HardWorkHardlyWorks but doesn't quite succeed]]).

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* Displaying formidable multitasking skills, the eponymous ''Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' is revealed in the series' ancillary manga to be able to train in the magical equivalent of VR constantly while leading her normal civilian life, apparently to explain her jump from neophyte magical girl to hardened battlemage in the short interval between the show's first two seasons. After the second season, she trains so hard she becomes known as "[[TheAce Ace of Aces]]" and is promoted to Combat Drill Instructor [[ImprobableAge in her early teens.]] In the third season, another character trains herself nearly to the point of exhaustion in an effort to prove herself ([[HardWorkHardlyWorks but doesn't quite succeed]]).



* In a decidedly more [[HermeticMagic magical]] example, ''[[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Mahou Sensei Negima's]]'' Negi trains constantly for fear of harm coming to his students. He's particularly fond of using [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Evangeline]]'s [[YearInsideHourOutside time-warping villa]] to add extra hours (or rather ''days'') to his day to train more.

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* In a decidedly more [[HermeticMagic magical]] example, ''[[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Mahou Sensei Negima's]]'' ''Manga/MahouSenseiNegima'''s Negi trains constantly for fear of harm coming to his students. He's particularly fond of using [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Evangeline]]'s [[YearInsideHourOutside time-warping villa]] to add extra hours (or rather ''days'') to his day to train more.



* Many characters from ''Manga/HokutoNoKen'' boast that their martial arts are the best or that they are the greatest fighters. They usually are killed by the main character Kenshiro, who proves that the Hokuto Shinken, which has a 2000 years long history, is the strongest martial arts.

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* Many characters from ''Manga/HokutoNoKen'' ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' boast that their martial arts are the best or that they are the greatest fighters. They usually are killed by the main character Kenshiro, who proves that the Hokuto Shinken, which has a 2000 years long history, is the strongest martial arts.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' gets in on the fun in Magic Duel. Trixie returns with uber-powerful magic and [[CurbStompBattle smears Twilight all over the landscape]] with spells. A good portion of the episode consists of Twilight training with Zecora to become strong enough to fight back.
** [[spoiler:Though they play with the trope a bit. Twilight actually fails to become strong enough, and instead relies on trickery to win.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' gets in on the fun in Magic Duel. Trixie returns with uber-powerful magic an ArtifactOfDoom and [[CurbStompBattle smears Twilight all over the landscape]] with spells. A good portion of the episode consists of Twilight training with Zecora to become strong enough to fight back.
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* ''Manga/GrapplerBaki''. The greatest styles are "Total fighting" (Baki) and "Every martial art you damn please" (Yujiro).

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* ''Manga/GrapplerBaki''.''Manga/BakiTheGrappler''. The greatest styles are "Total fighting" (Baki) and "Every martial art you damn please" (Yujiro).
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* ''WesternAnimation/RockosModernLife'': "We are the Samurai Kung-FU Warriors From Somewhere East of Pittsburgh. Our kung fu... better than your kung fu!"

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* ''WesternAnimation/RockosModernLife'': "We are the Samurai Kung-FU Kung-Fu Warriors From Somewhere East of Pittsburgh. Our kung fu... better than your kung fu!"
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* ''WesternAnimation/RockosModernLife'': "We are the Samurai Warriors From Somewhere East of Pittsburg. Our kung fu... better than your kung fu!"

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* ''WesternAnimation/RockosModernLife'': "We are the Samurai Kung-FU Warriors From Somewhere East of Pittsburg.Pittsburgh. Our kung fu... better than your kung fu!"
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* ''Manga/FairyTail'':
** Surprisingly averted for the most part. The main characters don't get significantly stronger throughout the series, with the exception of Lucy, who gets several new celestial spirits (one of whom, [[spoiler:Loke]], is probably stronger than any she started with). They continue to triumph anyway by virtue of being Determinators with the PowerOfFriendship and through good ol' fashioned teamwork. That last one makes sense given the strong emphasis on being TrueCompanions in this series. Also, battles are usually determined not by strength but by strategy and luck.
** It is played straight a few times, however. [[spoiler:Mirajane's victory over Fried is mostly because she just has more power than he does. Elfman has to get a new Take Over to beat Sol. Natsu gets a temporary power-up from Jellal in order to defeat Zero.]]
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* The basic premise of the Stephen Chow flick ''Flm/KungFuHustle'' where everyone's kung fu is stronger than someone else.

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* The basic premise of the Stephen Chow flick ''Flm/KungFuHustle'' ''Film/KungFuHustle'' where everyone's kung fu is stronger than someone else.
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* Any game with a level up system, particularly those that give room for LevelGrinding, ultimately runs on this. Most RPG games fall into this trope on some level.
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** ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'': Obi-Wan says he is unwilling to kill Anakin, but Yoda sends him to fight him anyway, because "strong enough to face this Lord Sidious, you are not." [[spoiler:Yoda finds he isn't strong enough either.]]

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** ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'': Obi-Wan says he is unwilling to kill Anakin, but Yoda sends him to fight him anyway, because "strong enough to face "To fight this Lord Sidious, strong enough you are not." [[spoiler:Yoda finds he isn't strong enough either.]]
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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Vaarsuvius says to Xykon, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html "My power... EXCEEDS yours!"]] [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Buuut that didn't help Vaarsuvius much.]] Actually, it makes it even worse. Had V just been out to end his reign of terror, he would have gone easy on her. In the case of a duel of strength, he had no reason to hold back.

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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Vaarsuvius says to Xykon, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html "My power... EXCEEDS yours!"]] [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Buuut that didn't help Vaarsuvius much.]] Actually, it makes it even worse. Had V just been out to end his reign of terror, he would have gone easy on her.them. In the case of a duel of strength, he had no reason to hold back.

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In [[FightingSeries shows where mano-a-mano combat is a main plot element]], characters spend much of their lives training and [[SuperWeight improving their strength]] so they can one-up each other at a critical point in a fight. This invariably develops into an arms race that can, and has, taken out entire planets and solar systems. If two nations do this, it's a LensmanArmsRace. When the situation is about equipment and weapons rather than physical prowess, see BiggerStick.

This has a [[TruthInTelevision grain of truth]] in it, as between two equally ''skilled'' fighters, the deciding factor will often be one's strength. Compare WeakButSkilled, and contrast UnskilledButStrong.

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In [[FightingSeries shows where mano-a-mano combat is a main plot element]], characters spend much of their lives training and [[SuperWeight improving their strength]] so they can one-up each other at a critical point in a fight. This invariably develops into an arms race that can, and has, taken out entire planets and solar systems.systems.

This has a [[TruthInTelevision grain of truth]] in it, as between two equally ''skilled'' fighters, the deciding factor will often be one's strength.

Compare WeakButSkilled, and contrast UnskilledButStrong.
If two nations do this, it's a LensmanArmsRace. When the situation is about equipment and weapons rather than physical prowess, see BiggerStick. \n\nThis has a [[TruthInTelevision grain of truth]] in it, as between If two equally ''skilled'' fighters, the deciding factor will often be one's strength. Compare WeakButSkilled, and contrast UnskilledButStrong.{{Rules Lawyer}}s do this, it's MyRuleFuIsStrongerThanYours.
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* Almost completely averted by ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'', insofar as the focus is more on teamwork, [[IndyPloy clever tactics]], exploiting your environment, [[FlawExploitation exploiting enemy weaknesses]] and using [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower weak or peculiar powers to devastating effect]] than pure fighting power. Hell, a lot of the abilities shown by the characters are so [[CrazyAwesome unorthodox]] that putting them on a power level scale is rather hard.
** Even lampshaded in a flashback where Dio, when asked what he thinks is the weakest ability he's seen, states that in the world of Stands there are no objectively strong or weak ones.

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* Almost completely averted Averted by ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'', insofar as the focus is more on teamwork, [[IndyPloy clever tactics]], exploiting your environment, [[FlawExploitation exploiting enemy weaknesses]] and using [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower weak or peculiar powers to devastating effect]] than pure fighting power. Hell, a lot of the abilities shown by the characters are so [[CrazyAwesome unorthodox]] that putting them on a power level scale is rather hard.
** Even lampshaded brought up in a flashback where Dio, when asked what he thinks is the weakest ability he's seen, states that in the world of Stands there are no objectively strong or weak ones.

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* Displaying formidable multitasking skills, the eponymous ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' is revealed in the series' ancillary manga to be able to train in the magical equivalent of VR constantly while leading her normal civilian life, apparently to explain her jump from neophyte magical girl to hardened battlemage in the short interval between the show's first two seasons. After the second season, she trains so hard she becomes known as "[[TheAce Ace of Aces]]" and is promoted to Combat Drill Instructor [[ImprobableAge in her early teens.]] In the third season, another character trains herself nearly to the point of exhaustion in an effort to prove herself ([[HardWorkHardlyWorks but doesn't quite succeed]]).

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* Displaying formidable multitasking skills, the eponymous ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ''Franchise/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' is revealed in the series' ancillary manga to be able to train in the magical equivalent of VR constantly while leading her normal civilian life, apparently to explain her jump from neophyte magical girl to hardened battlemage in the short interval between the show's first two seasons. After the second season, she trains so hard she becomes known as "[[TheAce Ace of Aces]]" and is promoted to Combat Drill Instructor [[ImprobableAge in her early teens.]] In the third season, another character trains herself nearly to the point of exhaustion in an effort to prove herself ([[HardWorkHardlyWorks but doesn't quite succeed]]).


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** Einhard Stratos from ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaViVid'' wants to prove that her Haoryu Kaiser Arts is the strongest. Victoria Dahlgrün wants to prove that her lineage is superior than of the other Ancient Belkan kings. And Sieglinde Jeremiah is more successful in proving that her Black Jeremiah fighting style is the strongest. It also helps that her ancestor, Wilfried Jeremiah, taught Sankt Kaiser Olivie Sägebrecht, who was the strongest warrior of the Ancient Belkan Era, how to fight and taught her the Jeremiah fighting style.


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* Many characters from ''Manga/HokutoNoKen'' boast that their martial arts are the best or that they are the greatest fighters. They usually are killed by the main character Kenshiro, who proves that the Hokuto Shinken, which has a 2000 years long history, is the strongest martial arts.
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* Multiple Dei in ''Anime/KidouTenshiAngelicLayer'' spend all their free time training for the titular game -- even Misaki, the lead character that [[TheMessiah converts and attracts]] her opponents by teaching them that it's just a game rather than SeriousBusiness.

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* Multiple Dei in ''Anime/KidouTenshiAngelicLayer'' spend all their free time training for the titular game -- even Misaki, the lead character that [[TheMessiah converts and attracts]] attracts her opponents by teaching them that it's just a game rather than SeriousBusiness.
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* Unsurprisingly, since it is a kung fu movie and owes a certain amount to anime tropes, ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' has this as the basic set-up for the fight with the BigBad: that in order to defeat Tai Lung, the [[DesignatedHero Dragon Warrior]] must attain the [[MacGuffin Dragon Scroll]], for only with its cosmic powers can he hope to be strong enough to prevail. To hammer this point home (as if it needed it), after learning that his former student has paralyzed the Furious Five, Shifu declares that "Tai Lung has gotten stronger." Cue the delivery of the scroll to the understandably freaked Po.

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* Unsurprisingly, since it is a kung fu movie and owes a certain amount to anime tropes, ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' has this as the basic set-up for the fight with the BigBad: that in order to defeat Tai Lung, the [[DesignatedHero [[TheChosenOne Dragon Warrior]] must attain the [[MacGuffin Dragon Scroll]], for only with its cosmic powers can he hope to be strong enough to prevail. To hammer this point home (as if it needed it), after learning that his former student has paralyzed the Furious Five, Shifu declares that "Tai Lung has gotten stronger." Cue the delivery of the scroll to the understandably freaked Po.
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* A decidedly more [[HermeticMagic magical]] example, [[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Negi]] trains constantly for fear of harm coming to his students. He's particularly fond of using [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Evangeline]]'s [[YearInsideHourOutside time-warping villa]] to add extra hours (or rather ''days'') to his day to train more.

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* A In a decidedly more [[HermeticMagic magical]] example, [[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Negi]] ''[[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Mahou Sensei Negima's]]'' Negi trains constantly for fear of harm coming to his students. He's particularly fond of using [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Evangeline]]'s [[YearInsideHourOutside time-warping villa]] to add extra hours (or rather ''days'') to his day to train more.
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In [[FightingSeries shows where mano-a-mano combat is a main plot element]], characters spend much of their lives training and [[SuperWeight improving their strength]] so they can one-up each other at a critical point in a fight. This invariably develops into an arms race that can, and has, taken out entire planets and solar systems. If two nations do this, it's a LensmanArmsRace.

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In [[FightingSeries shows where mano-a-mano combat is a main plot element]], characters spend much of their lives training and [[SuperWeight improving their strength]] so they can one-up each other at a critical point in a fight. This invariably develops into an arms race that can, and has, taken out entire planets and solar systems. If two nations do this, it's a LensmanArmsRace.
LensmanArmsRace. When the situation is about equipment and weapons rather than physical prowess, see BiggerStick.



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* RealLife Example: The way some professional sportsman and some [[StopHavingFunGuys hardcore gamers]] act.
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* In ''Film/ManOfSteel'', Zod boasts during his fight with Superman that he has trained his whole life to be the perfect warrior;
-->'''Zod:''' Where did ''you'' train? ON A ''[[FarmBoy FARM]]!?''

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* In ''Film/ManOfSteel'', Zod boasts during his fight with Superman that he has trained his whole life to be the perfect warrior;
warrior. What he says has a fair degree of logic, though. Would you expect a person with little to no combat experience to stand a chance against someone who was specially trained to be a warrior?
-->'''Zod:''' Where did ''you'' train? ON A ''[[FarmBoy FARM]]!?''FARM]]!?''

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->''"You can tell a [[{{shonen}} shounen]] series by the amount of times that someone says 'I'm training to become stronger.'"''

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->''"You can tell a [[{{shonen}} shounen]] {{sho|nenDemographic}}unen series by the amount of times that someone says 'I'm training to become stronger.'"''



* ''DragonBallZ''. In fact, this is the point of all 3 Dragonball shows (though less so in the beginning of ''DragonBall'' and ''DragonBallGT'').
* ''SaintSeiya'', ''{{Naruto}}'', ''YuYuHakusho'' and every other shonen series.
** It can be seen to a considerably lesser degree in other anime where martial arts are a central element, such as: ''[[RanmaOneHalf Ranma 1/2]]'', ''FlameOfRecca'' and ''SumomoMoMomoMo''.
* Almost completely averted by ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', insofar as the focus is more on teamwork, [[IndyPloy clever tactics]], exploiting your environment, [[FlawExploitation exploiting enemy weaknesses]] and using [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower weak or peculiar powers to devastating effect]] than pure fighting power. Hell, a lot of the abilities shown by the characters are so [[CrazyAwesome unorthodox]] that putting them on a power level scale is rather hard.

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* ''DragonBallZ''. ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. In fact, this is the point of all 3 Dragonball shows (though less so in the beginning of ''DragonBall'' ''Franchise/DragonBall'' and ''DragonBallGT'').
''Anime/DragonBallGT'').
* ''SaintSeiya'', ''{{Naruto}}'', ''YuYuHakusho'' ''Manga/SaintSeiya'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'' and every other shonen series.
** It can be seen to a considerably lesser degree in other anime where martial arts are a central element, such as: ''[[RanmaOneHalf Ranma 1/2]]'', ''FlameOfRecca'' ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', ''Manga/FlameOfRecca'' and ''SumomoMoMomoMo''.
''Manga/SumomoMoMomoMo''.
* Almost completely averted by ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'', insofar as the focus is more on teamwork, [[IndyPloy clever tactics]], exploiting your environment, [[FlawExploitation exploiting enemy weaknesses]] and using [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower weak or peculiar powers to devastating effect]] than pure fighting power. Hell, a lot of the abilities shown by the characters are so [[CrazyAwesome unorthodox]] that putting them on a power level scale is rather hard.



* Also seen to a lesser extent in sports anime such as ''ThePrinceOfTennis'' and ''{{Eyeshield 21}}'' (with training the sport instead of fight training).

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* Also seen to a lesser extent in sports anime such as ''ThePrinceOfTennis'' ''Manga/ThePrinceOfTennis'' and ''{{Eyeshield ''Anime/{{Eyeshield 21}}'' (with training the sport instead of fight training).



* This isn't just a factor in martial-arts series. It can show up in {{Mons}} series like ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', ''{{Pokemon}}'', ''{{Beyblade}}'', and ''Bistro Chef'' (better known as ''Fighting Foodons'' in the States), and CookingDuel series like ''YakitateJapan''. Essentially, anything that has individual competition, typically in a TournamentArc, will tend to end up with this kind of arms race.

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* This isn't just a factor in martial-arts series. It can show up in {{Mons}} {{Mon}}s series like ''Franchise/YuGiOh'', ''{{Pokemon}}'', ''{{Beyblade}}'', ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'', ''Anime/{{Beyblade}}'', and ''Bistro Chef'' (better known as ''Fighting Foodons'' in the States), and CookingDuel series like ''YakitateJapan''.''Manga/YakitateJapan''. Essentially, anything that has individual competition, typically in a TournamentArc, will tend to end up with this kind of arms race.



* A decidedly more [[HermeticMagic magical]] example, [[MahouSenseiNegima Negi]] trains constantly for fear of harm coming to his students. He's particularly fond of using [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Evangeline]]'s [[YearInsideHourOutside time-warping villa]] to add extra hours (or rather ''days'') to his day to train more.
* Although the battles are of actual skills (usually) in ''{{MAR}}'', the good guys are often sent to train themselves in this manner for the next set of battles whenever the story allows, often using a time-warp ARM in the process.
* In ''LoveHina'', Motoko is stunned when Seta defeats her in martial arts, and becomes fixated on challenging him.
* The titular character in ''[[KenichiTheMightiestDisciple History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi]]'' already goes through a daily regimen of TrainingFromHell to build up his stamina and improve his skills, but the few times he actually ''loses'' to an opponent, such as [[spoiler: Odin and Tirawat Koukin]], he forces himself to train even harder for the inevitable rematch.
* Multiple Dei in ''KidouTenshiAngelicLayer'' spend all their free time training for the titular game -- even Misaki, the lead character that [[TheMessiah converts and attracts]] her opponents by teaching them that it's just a game rather than SeriousBusiness.
* The very reason Kyo of ''FruitsBasket'' goes into the mountains to train for six months is to one day beat his cousin Yuki in a fight (the manga reveals [[spoiler:this is a lie covering up an unrelated HeroicBSOD, though]]). Every time Yuki wipes the floor with him, he only vows to become stronger... over... and over... again.

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* A decidedly more [[HermeticMagic magical]] example, [[MahouSenseiNegima [[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Negi]] trains constantly for fear of harm coming to his students. He's particularly fond of using [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Evangeline]]'s [[YearInsideHourOutside time-warping villa]] to add extra hours (or rather ''days'') to his day to train more.
* Although the battles are of actual skills (usually) in ''{{MAR}}'', ''Manga/{{MAR}}'', the good guys are often sent to train themselves in this manner for the next set of battles whenever the story allows, often using a time-warp ARM in the process.
* In ''LoveHina'', ''Manga/LoveHina'', Motoko is stunned when Seta defeats her in martial arts, and becomes fixated on challenging him.
* The titular character in ''[[KenichiTheMightiestDisciple ''[[Manga/KenichiTheMightiestDisciple History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi]]'' already goes through a daily regimen of TrainingFromHell to build up his stamina and improve his skills, but the few times he actually ''loses'' to an opponent, such as [[spoiler: Odin and Tirawat Koukin]], he forces himself to train even harder for the inevitable rematch.
* Multiple Dei in ''KidouTenshiAngelicLayer'' ''Anime/KidouTenshiAngelicLayer'' spend all their free time training for the titular game -- even Misaki, the lead character that [[TheMessiah converts and attracts]] her opponents by teaching them that it's just a game rather than SeriousBusiness.
* The very reason Kyo of ''FruitsBasket'' ''Manga/FruitsBasket'' goes into the mountains to train for six months is to one day beat his cousin Yuki in a fight (the manga reveals [[spoiler:this is a lie covering up an unrelated HeroicBSOD, though]]). Every time Yuki wipes the floor with him, he only vows to become stronger... over... and over... again.



* Mugen from ''SamuraiChamploo'' always trains to the point of absurdity when there is an opponent stronger or more skilled than he is.
* ''{{Swan}}'' is a shoujo version of this trope, but with ballet as the plot point.
* ''GrapplerBaki''. The greatest styles are "Total fighting" (Baki) and "Every martial art you damn please" (Yujiro).
* {{Parodied}} in ''RanmaHalf'', when [[TheRival Ryoga]] learns a technique to channel his {{Wangst}} into a mini AngstNuke. Ranma uses AwesomeByAnalysis ([[AttractiveBentGender and]] [[IHaveBoobsYouMustObey deception]]) to rip off the same attack. [[HilarityEnsues Cue contest to have a worse life and channel more]] {{Wangst}}. Ultimately [[spoiler: Ranma TakesAThirdOption and learns a counter-technique based on confidence. Unfortunately he severely underestimated the power of the [[UpToEleven upgraded version]] of Ryoga's technique, which became a true AngstNuke. Cue CurbStompBattle until Ranma's AwesomenessByAnalysis kicks in and points out a weak point in Ryoga's AngstNuke.]]
* Deconstructed in ''MutekiKanbanMusume'', a DeconstructiveParody of the FightingSeries: HardWorkHardlyWorks, so the only one who trains to be stronger than Miki the protagonist is Kankuro, the UnknownRival who doesn’t have a chance to beat her. Toshiyuki (the WorthyOpponent) and Megumi (TheRival) know that they can’t beat Mike with brute force, so they [[WeakButSkilled use their intelligence]]. And not even [[VillainTeamUp all of them together can beat Miki’s mother]].
* Benny of ''BlackLagoon'' quotes this almost ad verbatim during the Greenback Jane arc.

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* Mugen from ''SamuraiChamploo'' ''Anime/SamuraiChamploo'' always trains to the point of absurdity when there is an opponent stronger or more skilled than he is.
* ''{{Swan}}'' ''Manga/{{Swan}}'' is a shoujo version of this trope, but with ballet as the plot point.
* ''GrapplerBaki''.''Manga/GrapplerBaki''. The greatest styles are "Total fighting" (Baki) and "Every martial art you damn please" (Yujiro).
* {{Parodied}} {{Parodied|Trope}} in ''RanmaHalf'', ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', when [[TheRival Ryoga]] learns a technique to channel his {{Wangst}} into a mini AngstNuke. Ranma uses AwesomeByAnalysis ([[AttractiveBentGender and]] [[IHaveBoobsYouMustObey deception]]) to rip off the same attack. [[HilarityEnsues Cue contest to have a worse life and channel more]] {{Wangst}}. Ultimately [[spoiler: Ranma TakesAThirdOption and learns a counter-technique based on confidence. Unfortunately he severely underestimated the power of the [[UpToEleven upgraded version]] of Ryoga's technique, which became a true AngstNuke. Cue CurbStompBattle until Ranma's AwesomenessByAnalysis kicks in and points out a weak point in Ryoga's AngstNuke.]]
* Deconstructed in ''MutekiKanbanMusume'', ''Manga/MutekiKanbanMusume'', a DeconstructiveParody of the FightingSeries: HardWorkHardlyWorks, so the only one who trains to be stronger than Miki the protagonist is Kankuro, the UnknownRival who doesn’t have a chance to beat her. Toshiyuki (the WorthyOpponent) and Megumi (TheRival) know that they can’t beat Mike with brute force, so they [[WeakButSkilled use their intelligence]]. And not even [[VillainTeamUp all of them together can beat Miki’s mother]].
* Benny of ''BlackLagoon'' ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' quotes this almost ad verbatim during the Greenback Jane arc.



* This phrase is actually said in the new run of Marvel comic ''ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist''. The protagonist would necessarily have to have the strongest kung-fu if he could kill a dragon barehanded, so it wasn't empty boasting. Eventually he does get his ass handed to him by a guy who's even better.

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* This phrase is actually said in the new run of Marvel comic ''ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist''. The protagonist would necessarily have to have the strongest kung-fu if he could kill a dragon barehanded, so it wasn't empty boasting. Eventually he does get his ass handed to him by a guy who's even better.



* Parodied in ''AmericanPie'' during an overblown speech by Kevin.
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** ''RevengeOfTheSith'': Obi-Wan says he is unwilling to kill Anakin, but Yoda sends him to fight him anyway, because "strong enough to face this Lord Sidious, you are not." [[spoiler:Yoda finds he isn't strong enough either.]]
* The basic premise of the Stephen Chow flick ''KungFuHustle'' where everyone's kung fu is stronger than someone else.

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** ''RevengeOfTheSith'': ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'': Obi-Wan says he is unwilling to kill Anakin, but Yoda sends him to fight him anyway, because "strong enough to face this Lord Sidious, you are not." [[spoiler:Yoda finds he isn't strong enough either.]]
* The basic premise of the Stephen Chow flick ''KungFuHustle'' ''Flm/KungFuHustle'' where everyone's kung fu is stronger than someone else.



* It's an actual ''character flaw'', explicitly ''called this'', in ''{{Deadlands}}''. It's intended for [[SupernaturalMartialArts Enlightened]], but could thematically be used to create any character who takes great pride in their key fighting skill and is frequently fighting others to prove their superiority.

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* It's an actual ''character flaw'', explicitly ''called this'', in ''{{Deadlands}}''.''TabletopGame/{{Deadlands}}''. It's intended for [[SupernaturalMartialArts Enlightened]], but could thematically be used to create any character who takes great pride in their key fighting skill and is frequently fighting others to prove their superiority.



* Most incarnations of the ''StreetFighter'' series portray Ryu as a loner who does nothing but train in his spare time. He is motivated to do this because Akuma killed his master (who was also Akuma's brother). Akuma himself has sacrificed his whole life to the way of the Satsui no Hadou ("Murderous Intent"), striving forever to become a stronger fighter, but also looking for someone who can defeat and kill him. He once defeats Ryu and then spares his life because he knows Ryu has the potential to become the greatest warrior on Earth (and the potential to fall into Satsui no Hadou as well).

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* Most incarnations of the ''StreetFighter'' ''Franchise/StreetFighter'' series portray Ryu as a loner who does nothing but train in his spare time. He is motivated to do this because Akuma killed his master (who was also Akuma's brother). Akuma himself has sacrificed his whole life to the way of the Satsui no Hadou ("Murderous Intent"), striving forever to become a stronger fighter, but also looking for someone who can defeat and kill him. He once defeats Ryu and then spares his life because he knows Ryu has the potential to become the greatest warrior on Earth (and the potential to fall into Satsui no Hadou as well).



* The rift that developed between Aoi Matsubara and Sakashita-senpai in ''ToHeart'' was the result of the latter's unacceptance of "Extreme Fighting" as a martial art.
** This rift disappeared when Aoi won the Extreme Fighting Championship in ''ToHeart: Remember My Memories'' when Aoi defeated her senior Ayaka Kurusugawa who had defeated Sakashita earlier on in the tourney with ''one roundhouse kick to the head'', a la [[MemeticBadass Chuck Norris]].

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* The rift that developed between Aoi Matsubara and Sakashita-senpai in ''ToHeart'' ''VisualNovel/ToHeart'' was the result of the latter's unacceptance of "Extreme Fighting" as a martial art.
** This rift disappeared when Aoi won the Extreme Fighting Championship in ''ToHeart: ''To Heart: Remember My Memories'' when Aoi defeated her senior Ayaka Kurusugawa who had defeated Sakashita earlier on in the tourney with ''one roundhouse kick to the head'', a la [[MemeticBadass Chuck Norris]].



* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Vaarsuvius says to Xykon, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html "My power... EXCEEDS yours!"]]
** [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Buuut that didn't help Vaarsuvius much.]]
*** Actually, it makes it even worse. Had V just been out to end his reign of terror, he would have gone easy on hir. In the case of a duel of strength, he had no reason to hold back.

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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Vaarsuvius says to Xykon, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html "My power... EXCEEDS yours!"]]
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yours!"]] [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Buuut that didn't help Vaarsuvius much.]]
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]] Actually, it makes it even worse. Had V just been out to end his reign of terror, he would have gone easy on hir.her. In the case of a duel of strength, he had no reason to hold back.



* ''RockosModernLife'': "We are the Samurai Warriors From Somewhere East of Pittsburg. Our kung fu... better than your kung fu!"

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* ''RockosModernLife'': ''WesternAnimation/RockosModernLife'': "We are the Samurai Warriors From Somewhere East of Pittsburg. Our kung fu... better than your kung fu!"



* In Chinese slang, the phrase "Kung Fu" is akin to "Mojo." In any activity, rivals will compare the their respective Kung Fu with each other. This is because 'kung fu' means 'human achievement', or, skill.

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* In Chinese slang, the phrase "Kung Fu" is akin to "Mojo." In any activity, rivals will compare the their respective Kung Fu with each other. This is because 'kung fu' means 'human achievement', or, skill.



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* Averted up the wazoo in ''The California Voodoo Game'', where hypercompetent Bishop's martial arts techniques vastly out-class the limited training of Alex Griffin, [[spoiler: yet Griffin still kicks Bishop's ass because he's [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge so pissed off]] that he doesn't care if his ribs or fingers get broken: he just keeps smashing his opponent into the walls, denying Bishop the elbow room required for his dojo-ballet moves]].

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* Averted up the wazoo in ''The ''[[Literature/DreamPark The California Voodoo Game'', Game]]'', where hypercompetent Bishop's martial arts techniques vastly out-class the limited training of Alex Griffin, [[spoiler: yet Griffin still kicks Bishop's ass because he's [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge so pissed off]] that he doesn't care if his ribs or fingers get broken: he just keeps smashing his opponent into the walls, denying Bishop the elbow room required for his dojo-ballet moves]].

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* In ''Film/TheCore'', the hacker kid invokes this trope as he hacks a security system to save the mission (and crew and thus the world) aboard the ship.
-->"Your Kung Fu is NOT strong."
** Earlier in the film, he describes the automated program he's written which will scour the entire Internet and remove any mention of the Earth's collapsing magnetic field. He proudly says, "It is my Kung Fu, and it is strong."



** ''RevengeOfTheSith'': Obi-Wan says is unwilling to kill Anakin, but Yoda sends him to fight him anyway, because "strong enough to face this Lord Sidious, you are not." [[spoiler:Yoda finds he isn't strong enough either.]]

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** ''RevengeOfTheSith'': Obi-Wan says he is unwilling to kill Anakin, but Yoda sends him to fight him anyway, because "strong enough to face this Lord Sidious, you are not." [[spoiler:Yoda finds he isn't strong enough either.]]



-->'''Zod:''' Where did ''you'' train? ON A ''FARM!?''

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-->'''Zod:''' Where did ''you'' train? ON A ''FARM!?''''[[FarmBoy FARM]]!?''
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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Vaarsuvius says to Xykon, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html "My power ... EXCEEDS yours!"]]

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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Vaarsuvius says to Xykon, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html "My power ...power... EXCEEDS yours!"]]

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* ''DragonBall Z''. In fact, this is the point of all 3 Dragonball shows (though less so in the beginning of ''Dragon Ball'' and ''Dragon Ball GT'').

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* ''DragonBall Z''. ''DragonBallZ''. In fact, this is the point of all 3 Dragonball shows (though less so in the beginning of ''Dragon Ball'' ''DragonBall'' and ''Dragon Ball GT'').''DragonBallGT'').



* Although the battles are of actual skills (usually) in {{MAR}}, the good guys are often sent to train themselves in this manner for the next set of battles whenever the story allows, often using a time-warp ARM in the process.

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* Although the battles are of actual skills (usually) in {{MAR}}, ''{{MAR}}'', the good guys are often sent to train themselves in this manner for the next set of battles whenever the story allows, often using a time-warp ARM in the process.



* Deconstructed in MutekiKanbanMusume, a DeconstructiveParody of the FightingSeries: HardWorkHardlyWorks, so the only one who trains to be stronger than Miki the protagonist is Kankuro, the UnknownRival who doesn’t have a chance to beat her. Toshiyuki (the WorthyOpponent) and Megumi (TheRival) know that they can’t beat Mike with brute force, so they [[WeakButSkilled use their intelligence]]. And not even [[VillainTeamUp all of them together can beat Miki’s mother]].

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* Deconstructed in MutekiKanbanMusume, ''MutekiKanbanMusume'', a DeconstructiveParody of the FightingSeries: HardWorkHardlyWorks, so the only one who trains to be stronger than Miki the protagonist is Kankuro, the UnknownRival who doesn’t have a chance to beat her. Toshiyuki (the WorthyOpponent) and Megumi (TheRival) know that they can’t beat Mike with brute force, so they [[WeakButSkilled use their intelligence]]. And not even [[VillainTeamUp all of them together can beat Miki’s mother]].



* StarWars

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* StarWars''Film/StarWars''



* In the finale of "{{Dexter}}" - season 3, there is a delicious example of this, in a scene with the season's "BigBad" and Dexter. Remember Doakes's comment about why would a nerd like Dexter need to learn advanced ju-jitsu? Well it's so that when[[spoiler: other killers tie up Dexter and are armed with a pretty menacing blade he can overpower them and snap their neck like a twig...with one good hand as he had to break his other one to get free from those pesky ropes that were holding him(Dex) down.]] Very strong kung fu indeed.
* TheXFiles: In "The Unusual Suspects" (origin story for TheLoneGunmen), Frohike is stumped by a mystery Byers and Modeski brought to him, and they end up on Langly's doorstep. Langly forces Frohike to quote this trope before allowing them in to use his equipment.

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* In the finale of "{{Dexter}}" ''Series/{{Dexter}}'' - season 3, there is a delicious example of this, in a scene with the season's "BigBad" and Dexter. Remember Doakes's comment about why would a nerd like Dexter need to learn advanced ju-jitsu? Well it's so that when[[spoiler: other killers tie up Dexter and are armed with a pretty menacing blade he can overpower them and snap their neck like a twig...with one good hand as he had to break his other one to get free from those pesky ropes that were holding him(Dex) down.]] Very strong kung fu indeed.
* TheXFiles: ''Series/TheXFiles'': In "The Unusual Suspects" (origin story for TheLoneGunmen), Frohike is stumped by a mystery Byers and Modeski brought to him, and they end up on Langly's doorstep. Langly forces Frohike to quote this trope before allowing them in to use his equipment.



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* It's an actual ''character flaw'', explicitly ''called this'', in ''{{Deadlands}}''. It's intended for [[SupernaturalMartialArts Enlightened]], but could thematically be used to create any character who takes great pride in their key fighting skill and is frequently fighting others to prove their superiority.
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* Also a quote for VideoGame/DukeNukem.

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* Also a quote for VideoGame/DukeNukem.''VideoGame/DukeNukem''.
* The rift that developed between Aoi Matsubara and Sakashita-senpai in ''ToHeart'' was the result of the latter's unacceptance of "Extreme Fighting" as a martial art.
** This rift disappeared when Aoi won the Extreme Fighting Championship in ''ToHeart: Remember My Memories'' when Aoi defeated her senior Ayaka Kurusugawa who had defeated Sakashita earlier on in the tourney with ''one roundhouse kick to the head'', a la [[MemeticBadass Chuck Norris]].



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* It's an actual ''character flaw'', explicitly ''called this'', in {{Deadlands}}. It's intended for [[SupernaturalMartialArts Enlightened]], but could thematically be used to create any character who takes great pride in their key fighting skill and is frequently fighting others to prove their superiority.

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* It's an actual ''character flaw'', explicitly ''called this'', in {{Deadlands}}. It's intended for [[SupernaturalMartialArts Enlightened]], but could thematically be used In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Vaarsuvius says to create any character who takes great pride in their key Xykon, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html "My power ... EXCEEDS yours!"]]
** [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Buuut that didn't help Vaarsuvius much.]]
*** Actually, it makes it even worse. Had V just been out to end his reign of terror, he would have gone easy on hir. In the case of a duel of strength, he had no reason to hold back.
* An ''OldMasterQ'' [[http://www.oldmasterq.com/comics/2054/ strip]] shows this between Chinese and Western
fighting skill and is frequently fighting others to prove their superiority.styles, ending in a stalemate.



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* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Vaarsuvius says to Xykon, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html "My power ... EXCEEDS yours!"]]
** [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Buuut that didn't help Vaarsuvius much.]]
*** Actually, it makes it even worse. Had V just been out to end his reign of terror, he would have gone easy on hir. In the case of a duel of strength, he had no reason to hold back.

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* RealLife Example: The way some professional sportsman and some [[StopHavingFunGuys hardcore gamers]] act.
* In ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'', Vaarsuvius says to Xykon, [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0653.html "My power ... EXCEEDS yours!"]]
** [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown Buuut that didn't help Vaarsuvius much.]]
*** Actually, it makes it even worse. Had V just been out to end his reign of terror, he would have gone easy on hir. In
Chinese slang, the case of a duel of strength, he had no reason phrase "Kung Fu" is akin to hold back."Mojo." In any activity, rivals will compare the their respective Kung Fu with each other. This is because 'kung fu' means 'human achievement', or, skill.
-->'''Jim:''' [[HongKongDub "Their Tiger Style kung fu is strong, but our Dragon Style kung fu will defeat it!"]]



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* The rift that developed between Aoi Matsubara and Sakashita-senpai in ''ToHeart'' was the result of the latter's unacceptance of "Extreme Fighting" as a martial art.
** This rift disappeared when Aoi won the Extreme Fighting Championship in ''ToHeart: Remember My Memories'' when Aoi defeated her senior Ayaka Kurusugawa who had defeated Sakashita earlier on in the tourney with ''one roundhouse kick to the head'', a la [[MemeticBadass Chuck Norris]].
* RealLife Example: The way some professional sportsman and some [[StopHavingFunGuys hardcore gamers]] act.
* In Chinese slang, the phrase "Kung Fu" is akin to "Mojo." In any activity, rivals will compare the their respective Kung Fu with each other. This is because 'kung fu' means 'human achievement', or, skill.
-->'''Jim:''' [[HongKongDub "Their Tiger Style kung fu is strong, but our Dragon Style kung fu will defeat it!"]]
* An OldMasterQ [[http://www.oldmasterq.com/comics/2054/ strip]] shows this between Chinese and Western fighting styles, ending in a stalemate.
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* PowerRangers. All of them.
** And their source material, the SuperSentai series, in a lot of cases, but especially in ''JukenSentaiGekiranger'', where the entire point of the series was two rival schools of fighting squaring off against each other.

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* PowerRangers.''Franchise/PowerRangers''. All of them.
** And their source material, the SuperSentai ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' series, in a lot of cases, but especially in ''JukenSentaiGekiranger'', ''Series/JukenSentaiGekiranger'', where the entire point of the series was two rival schools of fighting squaring off against each other.
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* In ''Film/ManOfSteel'', Zod boasts during his fight with Superman that he has trained his whole life to be the perfect warrior;
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* This phrase is actually said in the new run of Marvel comic ''ImmortalIronFist''. The protagonist would necessarily have to have the strongest kung-fu if he could kill a dragon barehanded, so it wasn't empty boasting. Eventually he does get his ass handed to him by a guy who's even better.

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* This phrase is actually said in the new run of Marvel comic ''ImmortalIronFist''.''ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist''. The protagonist would necessarily have to have the strongest kung-fu if he could kill a dragon barehanded, so it wasn't empty boasting. Eventually he does get his ass handed to him by a guy who's even better.
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** For example, one of the most epic battles in the series is a rock-paper-scissors match between two people whose Stands don't lend themselves to fighting, the two of whom can't read each others' moves, and our hero, [[AuthorAvatar Rohan]] only wins because he [[spoiler: cheats]].

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